Anyone else's phone saying CDMA - eHRPD under network status? Trying to figure out what it means. I do know that eHRPD is what is responsible for 3g 4g handoff. Anyone else seeing this?
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redyns said:
Anyone else's phone saying CDMA - eHRPD under network status? Trying to figure out what it means. I do know that eHRPD is what is responsible for 3g 4g handoff. Anyone else seeing this?
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I've got CDMA EvDo rev. A
But I am also set to CDMA only - who am I kidding, I'll never see LTE.
Have you checked your data speeds?
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Yep, slow. 128 down and double up stream
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I've been seeing it since I first got the phone.
hanced High Rate Packet Data (eHRPD). eHRPD is an enhancement of 1xEV-DO (AKA HRPD) that enables LTE to CDMA handover
Found the answer here http://www.lte.tmworld.com/ate/what-does-ehrpd-stand-and-why-it-important-lte
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Moved to QA since this is a question....
Thanks for pointing this out. Mine also says CDMA - eHRPD
I live near Traverse City Michigan, actually about 10 mile out of town and at home I have 4G service, I also have high speed (WiFi) internet at home too so I don't 'need' 4G there so to speak but I'm not complaining. In TC where I work all I'm seeing is the eHRPD displayed most of the time, once in a while it will change to EVDO; and on those very rare cases if I;m not yawning I will see 4G but it maybe will last a few seconds. I was complaining to my son about them (Sprint) having 4G service out of town (south of TC) but not in town and he suggested they had fewer users out there and didn't have to have the capacity there that they would need in town. I know I don't think like a phone company but to my mind I would want to get service going in the larger community first then 'worry' about the out lying areas later. For me it's kind of frustrating because while I am at work my co-workers that have Verizon & AT&T service both have the 4G service and can watch streaming videos or anything else while with my Sprint service I am waiting for it to load, thank you Sprint for the slow service.
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Apparently some GNex users in Athens, GA have a live LTE tower... Let's hope this holds up...
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oh boy, until this comes to NY..
A question about LTE....is it like the terrible WiMax where you have to search for it as if its some type of wifi? or is it like GSM LTE/HSPA, it just appears when you are normally connected to data?
JaY iZz BaKk said:
oh boy, until this comes to NY..
A question about LTE....is it like the terrible WiMax where you have to search for it as if its some type of wifi? or is it like GSM LTE/HSPA, it just appears when you are normally connected to data?
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It runs like what you speak of. Not only a gsm thing. My dads verizon Droid Razr works same way too.
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JaY iZz BaKk said:
oh boy, until this comes to NY..
A question about LTE....is it like the terrible WiMax where you have to search for it as if its some type of wifi? or is it like GSM LTE/HSPA, it just appears when you are normally connected to data?
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Great question... With 4G, it didn't even feel like a mobile data connection... Hopefully LTE auto-searches and quickly connects while using the same or less battery.
Also, everyone, the 30mb/s won't stay for long... Once more towers are active and more lte phones are available, which is probably this summer, speeds will be down again.
Rydah805 said:
It runs like what you speak of. Not only a gsm thing. My dads verizon Droid Razr works same way too.
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Hmm so you have to search for it on Verizon LTE devices as well?!
It is most likely a placebo but I never use 4G because of the fact I feel as if it is like a wifi that can go away or weaken in reception depending on where I go...I like the GSM way of handling 3.5G/4G
*I have had T-Mobile for 6 years, just currently switched to a iPhone 4S with sprint in January...regretting it :|
Personally, I believe Sprint is going the wrong way with their plans for their mobile network. Now, before you discredit this post, hear me out...
Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US. There is absolutely no way they'll be able to trade blows with AT&T or Verizon as far as their mobile network or subscriber base. They will always be playing catch up to those two and even T-Mobile with their HSPA+ network. Now, here's where I believe Sprint should go:
Do the initial roll-out of LTE as they have announced. Immediately begin switching their network from EV-DO revision A to revision B and start focusing on their 3G network. I honestly believe that Sprint would be better served if they could provide a consistent high-speed 3G network; even more-so than they would be if they begin moving away from WiMAX and toward LTE. LTE should be in the cards, however I believe if they were able to upgrade their 3G network (which would be supported by ALL of their current phones) and start promoting the nation's only 3G network with 5Mb/s down and 2 Mb/s up and the strongest voice network in America, they'd be in better shape in a year than where they will be if they continue their current plans.
Just my 2 cents. Anybody have any thoughts?
OMG... That's even faster than my router.
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JaY iZz BaKk said:
Hmm so you have to search for it on Verizon LTE devices as well?!
It is most likely a placebo but I never use 4G because of the fact I feel as if it is like a wifi that can go away or weaken in reception depending on where I go...I like the GSM way of handling 3.5G/4G
*I have had T-Mobile for 6 years, just currently switched to a iPhone 4S with sprint in January...regretting it :|
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No, LOL. It auto switches and connects like 1x and 3g do... That iPhone is probably the issue though.
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mike.r.olson said:
Personally, I believe Sprint is going the wrong way with their plans for their mobile network. Now, before you discredit this post, hear me out...
Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US. There is absolutely no way they'll be able to trade blows with AT&T or Verizon as far as their mobile network or subscriber base. They will always be playing catch up to those two and even T-Mobile with their HSPA+ network. Now, here's where I believe Sprint should go:
Do the initial roll-out of LTE as they have announced. Immediately begin switching their network from EV-DO revision A to revision B and start focusing on their 3G network. I honestly believe that Sprint would be better served if they could provide a consistent high-speed 3G network; even more-so than they would be if they begin moving away from WiMAX and toward LTE. LTE should be in the cards, however I believe if they were able to upgrade their 3G network (which would be supported by ALL of their current phones) and start promoting the nation's only 3G network with 5Mb/s down and 2 Mb/s up and the strongest voice network in America, they'd be in better shape in a year than where they will be if they continue their current plans.
Just my 2 cents. Anybody have any thoughts?
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5 mbps down on CDMA? Good luck. Sprint isn't just upgrading to LTE. They are doing a huge overhaul of their 3G network using lots of options including massively improved backhaul. From the speed tests I've seen in network vision areas so far, their 3G network should be on par with verizons network as far as speed goes. Coverage will be improved by about 20% as well. I agree they should upgrade to EVDO revision B, although I'm not sure what upgrades would be involved in that.
Back on the topic of the first post though, hot damn. I know speeds will drop once more people start using it, but those are impressive initial results.
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5 mbps down on CDMA? Good luck. Sprint isn't just upgrading to LTE. They are doing a huge overhaul of their 3G network using lots of options including massively improved backhaul. From the speed tests I've seen in network vision areas so far, their 3G network should be on par with verizons network as far as speed goes. Coverage will be improved by about 20% as well. I agree they should upgrade to EVDO revision B, although I'm not sure what upgrades would be involved in that.
Back on the topic of the first post though, hot damn. I know speeds will drop once more people start using it, but those are impressive initial results.
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From the little bit I've read about EV-DO revision B, it wouldn't involve any hardware upgrades. It would only involve a "firmware upgrade", if I remember it correctly. But yeah, 30+ Mb/s down is pretty sick. Even after "full-spectrum saturation", if we could get 10Mb/s in half of their 3G footprint, I'd be satisfied.
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yousefak said:
Great question... With 4G, it didn't even feel like a mobile data connection... Hopefully LTE auto-searches and quickly connects while using the same or less battery.
Also, everyone, the 30mb/s won't stay for long... Once more towers are active and more lte phones are available, which is probably this summer, speeds will be down again.
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That is the reason that Sprint is only advertising speeds on LTE just below what Verizon is advertising. For the most part people in unsaturated markets will see speeds exceeding 20Mbps down on a good day. And those speeds may even hold up that high once Sprint starts releasing LTE on 800MHz next year as well. And according to some stuff that people have gotten access to, Sprint will be setting up phones to dynamically switch between LTE on 800, 1900, & 2500 so as to keep cell sites from being over-burdened. It will be a while before Sprint's LTE starts to suffer from over-crowding.
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mike.r.olson said:
Personally, I believe Sprint is going the wrong way with their plans for their mobile network. Now, before you discredit this post, hear me out...
Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US. There is absolutely no way they'll be able to trade blows with AT&T or Verizon as far as their mobile network or subscriber base. They will always be playing catch up to those two and even T-Mobile with their HSPA+ network. Now, here's where I believe Sprint should go:
Do the initial roll-out of LTE as they have announced. Immediately begin switching their network from EV-DO revision A to revision B and start focusing on their 3G network. I honestly believe that Sprint would be better served if they could provide a consistent high-speed 3G network; even more-so than they would be if they begin moving away from WiMAX and toward LTE. LTE should be in the cards, however I believe if they were able to upgrade their 3G network (which would be supported by ALL of their current phones) and start promoting the nation's only 3G network with 5Mb/s down and 2 Mb/s up and the strongest voice network in America, they'd be in better shape in a year than where they will be if they continue their current plans.
Just my 2 cents. Anybody have any thoughts?
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Sprint last fall flat out stated that they are not going to roll out EV-DO B. Network Vision will max out the capabilities of EV-DO A while they roll-out LTE on 1900 and 800. After that is complete and LTE Advanced is rolling out, they will be able to start taking existing 1900 EV-DO carriers and transition them to LTE as well. I expect that eventually, EV-DO will be phased out for a completely IP-based voice network using VoLTE. And Sprint is even releasing some devices with SVDO on EV-DO A so you can talk and surf at the same time until LTE is covering their entire network footprint.
JaY iZz BaKk said:
oh boy, until this comes to NY..
A question about LTE....is it like the terrible WiMax where you have to search for it as if its some type of wifi? or is it like GSM LTE/HSPA, it just appears when you are normally connected to data?
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Looking at the viper 4g lte options it seems there is no "on-off" setting for 4g lte. Looks like it will just be there. My area doesn't have lte yet so I can't be positive but I definately could not find a 4g setting of any kind
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I'll say it over and over again. Sprint doesn't have a 4G network. Also, Verizon has 50+M down and 12+M up
Then again, at this point in time who needs more than 3-4M down. just upgrade to rev-b and done.
This is a common thing for my WiMAX at the house but WiMAX is so freaking glitchy.
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This is typical WiMAX in my area.
1900mhz is going to be set up 5x5, but no confirmation if 800 and 2.5 will be set up on 5x5 though. More than likely they will be set up on 10x10 since there is a ****load more spectrum on there, especially 2.5GHz. There is 120mhz of spectrum in the 2.5GHz frequency that Clearwire owns.
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From the little bit I've read about EV-DO revision B, it wouldn't involve any hardware upgrades. It would only involve a "firmware upgrade", if I remember it correctly. But yeah, 30+ Mb/s down is pretty sick. Even after "full-spectrum saturation", if we could get 10Mb/s in half of their 3G footprint, I'd be satisfied.
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and yet a year later i am gettn 38 mbs down
I found a tower in San Antonio that has 4G LTE broadcasting right now and played on it a bit yesterday. I was driving around trying to find the actual tower and would drive in and out of range. While testing 4G with speedtest or the browser it would freeze when losing 4G and reverting to 3G. I was using a not to be named dual-core awake mod/kernel at the time. Well, I remembered a reason we have dual-core and not quad-core is because of LTE so I went and flashed back to stock kernel. I didn't have the problem today when I went and played on the tower this time.
I may be completely wrong, but I wanted to bring it up to you devs who know more than I do.
This could also just be pure coincidence.
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We have some LTE here in San Antonio, now.
you have LTE in San Antonio, but I don't have it in KC? wat
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I found a tower in San Antonio that has 4G LTE broadcasting right now and played on it a bit yesterday. I was driving around trying to find the actual tower and would drive in and out of range. While testing 4G with speedtest or the browser it would freeze when losing 4G and reverting to 3G. I was using a not to be named dual-core awake mod/kernel at the time. Well, I remembered a reason we have dual-core and not quad-core is because of LTE so I went and flashed back to stock kernel. I didn't have the problem today when I went and played on the tower this time.
I may be completely wrong, but I wanted to bring it up to you devs who know more than I do.
This could also just be pure coincidence.
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We have some LTE here in San Antonio, now.
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Its possibly nothing and really safe to say not to deduct anything from that experience until it is officially announced as "live" in your area...b/c right now they are still blocking from most sites so that alone could be causing issues and the hand off's...
Also without a log no dev is going to be able to troubleshoot the handoff your talking....though i honestly dont know what in the dual-core mod would cause that experience as all its supposed to effect is the cpu clock's which wouldn't touch data management connections in anyway...
Yeah, I know it is doesn't help to not have a log. I posted just in case someone out there wanted to know and if they want me to go and try to reproduce what I was describing and save a log then I would.
It is speculation.
And there are several cell towers in San Antonio now allowing 4G LTE connections.
To find them I have had to toggle airplane mode. Not just mobile data. When you have 4G in the area it will take a bit longer to connect data as it tries to negotiate which signal is best. Then it will connect to 3G or 4G accordingly. If you only have 3G in the area then after you toggle airplane it will go directly to 3G. That pause is the indicator you are close to a 4G tower.
Or if your data keeps dropping out. Your phone is trying to connect to lte but the tower is blocking it
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Or if your data keeps dropping out. Your phone is trying to connect to lte but the tower is blocking it
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I know the tower isn't blocking it. It's live and is meant to be. I called Sprint to confirm and they even shared with me that the towers by my house are going to be live in the next few days.
I wish I knew what value to change to make the phone sit and try/search 4G longer. Or a way to make 4G the only data connection.
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I wish I knew what value to change to make the phone sit and try/search 4G longer. Or a way to make 4G the only data connection.
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download msl reader and get your msl. Then Go to dialer and do ##data# and go to edit and enter your msl. Have fun haha go to lte and change the scan settings
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what would i do without you guys. thank you.
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download msl reader and get your msl. Then Go to dialer and do ##data# and go to edit and enter your msl. Have fun haha go to lte and change the scan settings
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mental note -- do not set phone to LTE only. it does not reference solely data.
Just curious. Where in San Antonio are you getting 4G?
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OK this is a stupid question but I would like clarification from some of you in this forum. I am currently running CNA JB on my photon. Over the last few weeks I have used over 600KB of roaming data. When I got my bill it did not show this data because roaming on Verizon is 1X speed and Sprint tracks 3G on the bill. My question is will Sprint realize I am using all the roaming data and try and boot me or will it fly under the radar? Additionally I do not see a section for roaming minutes or texts. Are they tracking this as well?
I know many of you object to roaming PRL's however I am currently away from home for the military and do not have Sprint service here. It will get changed back when I get home in a few months, I just want to make sure I do not get booted before then. Thanks
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I'm curious about this too. I've always kept data roaming off because I didn't know if I'd get charged.
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I'm curious about this too. I've always kept data roaming off because I didn't know if I'd get charged.
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I can tell you for a fact that you will not get charged. I just pulled up my bills for the last 6 months and I have used roaming data every month. The concern with sprint is that they will not charge you, but if they think you are using to much they will cancel you so you can go to another carrier that has better service in your area. This saves them money because they pay Verizon for the data you use in roaming.
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I wish I knew this before I took a trip out to Wyoming but the answers are true, roaming isn't a problem. I called Sprint and asked them and they said it wasn't a problem with their Nationwide plans (i'm sure you have one). I turned on roaming for calls and data then turned off the call and data guards.
cheers,
Dan
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cianci162 said:
I wish I knew this before I took a trip out to Wyoming but the answers are true, roaming isn't a problem. I called Sprint and asked them and they said it wasn't a problem with their Nationwide plans (i'm sure you have one). I turned on roaming for calls and data then turned off the call and data guards.
cheers,
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Per sprint policy : Continus Roaming over a 90 Day period will constitute sprint into sending you a letter concearning your constant use off the network, they will give you a chance to return using the service or be canceled if continued. This only applies to users that live and use their phones off network (roaming) for a continus period of time ( living and working in a area that never had sprint coverage, bottom half of the contract explains this and states if you dont use their service or excessively use a roaming service it constitutes a breach in contact and can further cost a ETF ( early termination fee).. If you have DSL and are in a roaming area, call sprint and ask for a AIRRAVE - free femcell booster for sprint customers only that are in poor coverage or out of the service area ( this turns your dsl into a sprint signal and supports calls and net)
I have always roamed xD I use about as much roaming or sprint as I wish just whichever gets better service or faster Internet (usually sprint since its 3g and I needa change out my Prl to get my 3g work in on roaming I think) any good references to how to change your prl easily?
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Rill roaming is the only option I am aware of.. ie: most ROMs include the ril that makes your home only do roaming and choosing automatic will force you onto a roaming network only.. I don't believe we can access another networks 3g because its hidden from a non subscriber.. the question is where we could be if the sim card for international was able to be motofied into a roaming on gsm networks when service is unavalible while still CDMA and on home only.. never happening tho
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actually it is possible to roam and get 3g on sprint i used to do it all the time. look up a thread that has a pagplus prl for a sprint phone and that will yield the results that your looking for
Not sure .. I do believe any Prl that is roaming related to data will break regular data 3g until back on your carriers data Prl .. correct me if I'm wrong but the ril is closest to running a off network data 3g or equivalent without flashing a different prl each time unless you can flash over automatic and have force roam 3g..
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I think if you have the sprint business prl, like 111111 or something, you can get 3g while roaming. I believe joker has said that is what he uses
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please dont knock it till you have actually tried it thank you. im saying this as my personal experience
jay7264 said:
please dont knock it till you have actually tried it thank you. im saying this as my personal experience
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I wasn't knocking ya, bro. I was just clarifying the info :beer:
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jay7264 said:
actually it is possible to roam and get 3g on sprint i used to do it all the time. look up a thread that has a pagplus prl for a sprint phone and that will yield the results that your looking for
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Thanks... crazy week. I will try it as soon as I can and post the results. Thanks for the advice.
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If you have unlimited data on your plan you dont get charged for data while roaming
To update anyone interested I have used almost 4GB roaming an have still not received a nasty gram from Sprint. It is almost 95% data and minutes roaming. I will keep everyone posted of this changes.
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Are you able to get 3g speeds while roaming? I'm assuming so or you probably would have to have been downloading something huge this while time on a 1x network.
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Are you able to get 3g speeds while roaming? I'm assuming so or you probably would have to have been downloading something huge this while time on a 1x network.
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One would think, but no I am committed. Rocking the 1x baby!
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Sprint sent me a letter and gave me a few calls from their roaming department when I hit about 12 GB plus a few more of roaming data. I was mainly tethered to the internet from the laptop and uploading my music collection to play music. I have the 11115 prl to access 3g and every once in a while data would drop.
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was searching and this is the most relevant thread I could find to the subject.
I have a photon on 3.5 and live in a pretty rural area. I lose all reception halfway up my driveway lol.
also even in town where I work I get pretty poor reception at times.
My question is since I am on 3.5 is it possible to change the prl to force roaming on Verizon?
*coworkers that have Verizon get full signal while I sit at 2 bars or less*
I understand sprints roaming situation with cancelling but I don't think that will be an issue. heck if they cancel me without an ETF i'd probably be happy.
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was searching and this is the most relevant thread I could find to the subject.
I have a photon on 3.5 and live in a pretty rural area. I lose all reception halfway up my driveway lol.
also even in town where I work I get pretty poor reception at times.
My question is since I am on 3.5 is it possible to change the prl to force roaming on Verizon?
*coworkers that have Verizon get full signal while I sit at 2 bars or less*
I understand sprints roaming situation with cancelling but I don't think that will be an issue. heck if they cancel me without an ETF i'd probably be happy.
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Might as well unlock gsm on your photon that'll probably be your best bet
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Does anyone know of tmobiles LTE plans? I switched to tmobile under the impression my area already had LTE. I'm in Elgin,Illinois. If I go 10 minutes down the road to south Elgin they have lte. It seems a lot of my immediate surroundings do except Elgin. It's not a huge deal because the hspa+ is still getting 10-12 dl speeds. But just curious if anyone knows what cities they're currently working on or planning on in the future
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Does anyone know of tmobiles LTE plans? I switched to tmobile under the impression my area already had LTE. I'm in Elgin,Illinois. If I go 10 minutes down the road to south Elgin they have lte. It seems a lot of my immediate surroundings do except Elgin. It's not a huge deal because the hspa+ is still getting 10-12 dl speeds. But just curious if anyone knows what cities they're currently working on or planning on in the future
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I don't know how far each signal extends from the towers, but i can tell you that i live in WPB, FL. From my work Location in NPB i get no LTE signal. My co-workers on verizon and at&t do. A few blocks down the road, i notice there is a bridge i always seem to be waiting for. It get's LTE there. I also get it in my Home in LW - so south of WPB. all of these areas within 20 miles. Before getting the phone i checked the coverage map and it indicated 4GLTE available BOTH Home and Work locations.
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I don't know how far each signal extends from the towers, but i can tell you that i live in WPB, FL. From my work Location in NPB i get no LTE signal. My co-workers on verizon and at&t do. A few blocks down the road, i notice there is a bridge i always seem to be waiting for. It get's LTE there. I also get it in my Home in LW - so south of WPB. all of these areas within 20 miles. Before getting the phone i checked the coverage map and it indicated 4GLTE available BOTH Home and Work locations.
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Hm well I hope my area eventually gets it. It's not too big of a deal. Even with the hspa+ I'm getting between 10-15 downloads.
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I live in Chattanooga Tennessee. Sprint Spark is not active here yet. My HTC One had excellent LTE service but my One Max is only getting 3G. After a restart or PRL update I do see the Spark LTE icon but them it goes away back to 3G. When I am on the road around town data connections are choppy using video or Pandora.
Does anyone know a way to turn on the regular LTE that I once experienced on my HTC One?
Read this article over on s4gru.com
http://s4gru.com/index.php?/blog/1/...-due-to-circuit-switched-fallback-technology/
Make sure the UICC ID that's on your phone is also the one that sprint has registered for that line. I've had to do that with 3 phones on my account.
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