[Q] Partitioning between 16GB and 32GB versions - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

Can someone explain the difference in how the space is partitioned on the 16GB and 32GB versions and what the pros and cons are?
All of my movies and music are accessed through either Google Music or UPNP, so I don't have need of much "data" storage space, so I'm leaning toward the 16, but want to really understand the differences in capability for installing apps and storing data.
Thanks!

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The difference in the partitioning is that one has about 11GB or so of usable space and the other one has about 25GB of usable space.
Other than that, I am not sure what you are asking.
Personally, I have the 32GB one and added a 64GB card to it so I am about as set as I can be.

I have seen posts about the 32GB being partitioned 12/12 (not that I fully understand what that means) which limits how you can use the extra storage.
I'm trying to get an idea of what that means and what limitations it causes, and how the 16GB compares in how its storage is set up.

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[Q] Recommend MicroSD for rooting?

The manual states 32GB microSD should be used. How much do I need for rooting the gtablet? If 4 or 8GB microSD is enough will it work right? What is the best brand?
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That's a good question, I had wondered that myself. I figured I would pick up a 16 gig for storage, and smaller / cheaper ones for backing up and switching out ROMS. If 4's would work in general that would be great (and dirt cheap).
Anyone more experienced in this area care to chime in with their experiences?
Thanks!
Up to 32GB sized cards can be used.
Grab any size you like.
Try to grab on of at least Class 6 rating or better. The higher the class number the faster the card is.
Is 4 or 8GB big enough for rooting?
Yes, consider the card as used only for media storage like music or movies, book etc, you wll need it only when you manage to fill the internal 16gb
So if you need only to root even 2 gb is plenty
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P00r said:
So if you need only to root even 2 gb is plenty
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Thanks! That's what I needed to know. I think I have a 2 gig from an old BBerry in the drawer at home.
You really don't need a card to root at all.
Get ADB setup properly to your PC and you can transfer all the files you need straight to internal memory (which will show up as /sdcard).
good point! depend on how you like to spend your friday night I guess
I have a 16 GB with about 4 GB space left, can I use it without erasing the stuff I saved on it?
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[Q] Only 1 gig of internal storage concerns...

How come the EVO 3D only has 1 gig of internal storage? I'm really wanting this phone this worries me. My Asus Transformer has 32 gigs of internal storage and with all the apps and everything I have on it, I'm well above 18 gigs used. And that's not including movies (stored on MicroSD).
So with that said, with 1 gig of internal storage, this device is VERY limited to how many programs you can load onto it right?
And I know there is App2SD but not all apps are compatible doing that. How do you guys fare with such limited internal storage?
Even on the OGVO I never had issues, but then again, I don't download the entire market.
When they start releasing roms I'm sure it will free up a couple more gb of internal storage BC were suppose to have 4. I think but I'm not sure a lot of rom was used for sense and the security they used to lock the phone.
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No problems here. I haunt even used a third.. there is no need to have hundreds of apps..
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* Pre-Honeycomb Android versions have a space limitation on installed apps.
* Froyo and Gingerbread grants the ability to move applicable apps to external media (microSD).
* Honeycomb takes advantage of all available space for application installation while removing the ability to move apps to external media.
ThaiM said:
How come the EVO 3D only has 1 gig of internal storage? I'm really wanting this phone this worries me. My Asus Transformer has 32 gigs of internal storage and with all the apps and everything I have on it, I'm well above 18 gigs used. And that's not including movies (stored on MicroSD).
So with that said, with 1 gig of internal storage, this device is VERY limited to how many programs you can load onto it right?
And I know there is App2SD but not all apps are compatible doing that. How do you guys fare with such limited internal storage?
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You do realize that you are confusing the storage mediums, right? The 32gb of storage on your transformer is the same as the 8gb of storage on the SD card that comes with the Evo 3D. You can always install a 32gb card if you want. The Asus only has 1gb of "internal storage." in the way you are lookig at this.
You really are not going to find many phones with more internal storage unless they are sealed and have no MicroSD slot (aka iPhone).
Well I was really worried to owned a EVO and only had like 400 mb left. And the Thunderbird like 2.5 gb free (out of the 8gb internal that they say it has) anyways most apps over 10mb will let you moved to SD card , I download a lot apps and games are the only ones with the big space , I was amazed the most 10 mb + in iPhone were only like 3mb in Android, so don't worry you'll be ok
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
ExploreMN said:
You do realize that you are confusing the storage mediums, right? The 32gb of storage on your transformer is the same as the 8gb of storage on the SD card that comes with the Evo 3D. You can always install a 32gb card if you want. The Asus only has 1gb of "internal storage." in the way you are lookig at this.
You really are not going to find many phones with more internal storage unless they are sealed and have no MicroSD slot (aka iPhone).
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Isn't the 16/32GB on the transformer internal (with the ability to add up to another 32GB via microSD)? (I'm not sure, hence the question)
Dude 1GB is like a godsend for me. My OGVO had >300MB when it was bone stock, I'm very thankful for my 1GB and you should be too. But I also try not to load up my phones with bull**** I never use and usually have like 2-8 apps downloaded, max. I'd just get a bigger SD card if it bothers you that much, 32 gigs is like $40.
A lot of the 4gb is the ROM and security features. Once we can install custom ROMs we will get a couple gigs back. I don't know why I just said that. A previous poster said that. LOL I fail at forums. ;P
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empiire said:
Dude 1GB is like a godsend for me. My OGVO had >300MB when it was bone stock, I'm very thankful for my 1GB and you should be too. But I also try not to load up my phones with bull**** I never use and usually have like 2-8 apps downloaded, max. I'd just get a bigger SD card if it bothers you that much, 32 gigs is like $40.
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+1 on this.
jj14 said:
Isn't the 16/32GB on the transformer internal (with the ability to add up to another 32GB via microSD)? (I'm not sure, hence the question)
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It's internal in the sense that it is built inside the unit, but its more like a SSD setup. Another way to think about it is like the 16/32 you are talking about is a MicroSD and you can add a second MicroSD. I mean it's not, but for conceptual reasons, that is one way to understand it.
You are correct....however...this 1g is for sense...apps and memory management file and the 3vo has plenty unless you are going to load 600+ apps SD another user here does...600 hundred...my god...
I was a bit concerned at first coming from a Droid x. That thing was the king of space when it came out. I think apps to SD was just coming out then. Now almost all apps are s2d. I've got 50+ apps using 300mb on phone, a couple gigs app usage on SD. I don't think its an issue any more.
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SGS3 intalled memory 16gb vs 32gb?

I've been wondering which GS3 to buy, the 16gb or 32gb model? I would usually go with the 16gb as there's the option of using an external sd card anyway, however, the phone performance is better with apps installed on internal memory and also there are still apps in the market that don't get transferred to the sd card. Another concern is the size of apps that keep growing everyday (I think now min. is 4gb) such as amazing games launched recently (e.g. Nova 3) and since this is a beast of a phone, and I'm planning to keep it for the next 2 yrs, I was wondering if 16gb would suffice?!!
Any thoughts from anyone would be appreciated.
Be greedy and go for more, why settle for less?
16Gb is more than enough for just apps, plus you get up to 64Gb extra for external storage. Also, you can only get the 32Gb version in the UK if your on Vodafone, otherwise you have to wait a month.
I just cancelled my pre-order so that i can get the 64GB version
I have a feeling that it may not be available
I have a bad feeling that 64gb is a myth.. Even if its not, most likely its in aug or sept.
As I got it, 32GB version will be available in UK from Vodafone only, for a month. Other countries do not fall into that.
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Some German stores say they will have 32 GB version at the end of May
http://www.preissuchmaschine.de/in-Handy-ohne-Vertrag/Smartphone/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-I9300-32GB.html
Never really bothered me about internal storage if there is a Micro SD slot and that basically gives you infinite storage. Though personally I never filled up my GS2 storage of 16GB, I don't keep useless albums and just pick my songs so I only had like 2GB of songs. I find apps on the Android market to be really poor compared to what is on IOS so I barely played any games. When I do play games I just realise how **** the touch screen is for control and want proper buttons lol. With dropbox giving me 50GB free and having unlimited data on 3 I just put all my pirated Windows software on there lol.
I really don't care, I'm happy with the 16GB. Enough for apps.
As for movies/music/pictures, that's what I'm buying a 32GB Micro SDHC for. q
with the amount of flashing I do the 16gb one is fine for me as I only store my things on the external sd card
people always misleading by MicroSD extension.
You cannot increase internal storage by MicroSD. You will just add one more storage. But since most applications know only about one storage, they will continue use only internal storage. All games put their caches to /sdcard which is internal storage.
of course, it's still possible to hack games and change path /sdcard to /sdcard/external_sd. Some hacks allow to swap internal and external storages permanently.
This is android, and many tweaks possible. But if you plan to use phone as just regular user then you should know that internal storage won't be extended by adding MicroSD.
Actually, I use MicroSD in my SGSII just for media such as photos (made by SGSII camera), video, music. All applications related files are on internal storage. In this scenario, 16gb of internal storage for me is not enough, so i bought 32gb version. And i can easily swap microsd without loosing functionality, since all data are in internal.
A Galaxy S3 16GB is £500, the Galaxy S3 32GB is mostly going to be around £600.
You may as well go to Amazon and purchase the 64gb micro sd card from Sandisk class 10 for £55 and have 80GB. I mean seriously, 80GB is enough to be fair.
I guess the real question is how much faster is the nand/internal storage Vs Sandisk MicroSDXC?
Would the difference actually be noticeable in day to day use as a non dev
I don't mean off the cuff comments like its faster etc
I would like to see actual facts & figures.
I am going to buy 32GB version for storing Apps, games, videos and lots other things. Then after buying phone if i buy 16gb version, I feel annoying if i need more capacity, buying a memory card putting it in my phone. Its better to have 32gb version.
MrPhilo said:
You may as well go to Amazon and purchase the 64gb micro sd card from Sandisk class 10 for £55.
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Or £45 from Play.
funb0b said:
I guess the real question is how much faster is the nand/internal storage Vs Sandisk MicroSDXC?
Would the difference actually be noticeable in day to day use as a non dev
I don't mean off the cuff comments like its faster etc
I would like to see actual facts & figures.
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Following on from this, I found a nice little review of Sandisk's 64Gb MicroSDXC
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/04/01/review-sandisk-64gb-microsdxc-card-huge-capacity-meets-impressive-speeds/
Going for a full powerhouse,,Galaxy S3 launching here in India on 31st,,will be going for 64GB version w/o a doubt if available else 32GB & last and least preferable is 16GB
I'm getting 16GB with 32GB MicroSD card.
ASD007 said:
I've been wondering which GS3 to buy, the 16gb or 32gb model? I would usually go with the 16gb as there's the option of using an external sd card anyway, however, the phone performance is better with apps installed on internal memory and also there are still apps in the market that don't get transferred to the sd card. Another concern is the size of apps that keep growing everyday (I think now min. is 4gb) such as amazing games launched recently (e.g. Nova 3) and since this is a beast of a phone, and I'm planning to keep it for the next 2 yrs, I was wondering if 16gb would suffice?!!
Any thoughts from anyone would be appreciated.
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Actually performance on my SGS2 was better with my class 4 32gb Sandisk Card than the internal storage.
16gb is more than enough for apps,
Its more than suitable for the next 2 years
JD
I have a 64GB SDXC on the way from Hong Kong. I have preordered the SGS3 16GB version.
80GB will be enough for me since I don't use my phone to listen to music. I listen to music all the time, so I want to have a dedicated player for that. And I really love the sound quality of my rockboxed Sansa Clip Zip. For mega-ultra-super emergencies (mp3 player battery empty) I have a Subsonic music server setup so I can stream my music from my HTPC at home which is turned on 24/7, so that's my failsafe.
internal storage
I nearly bought a 16G one today, but then held my temptation as I wasn't sure about the requirements for this bigger phone. Some are right that apps are getting bigger and bigger. On the other hand I keep all the media on the card. On my s2 half of int storage is still free after a year, so unless someone advices that with this kind of usage and for apps etc 16G is not enough ; I guess I should go for the 16G. Any comments folks?

Is it possible to fool the Amaze to do this?

Is it possible to fool the Amaze to show the SD card as the internal storage and use it as internal storage? What about the 14GB internal SD to be in place of the 2GB internal storage and the SD card to be in place of the 14GB internal SD, so that removing the SD card doesn't impair the system.
I want 32 GB for games, not that crappy 2GB internal storage I have. There are apps that link the files to the internal storage, but I want a better solution (the one I listed above)
Mystery? said:
Is it possible to fool the Amaze to show the SD card as the internal storage and use it as internal storage? What about the 14GB internal SD to be in place of the 2GB internal storage and the SD card to be in place of the 14GB internal SD, so that removing the SD card doesn't impair the system.
I want 32 GB for games, not that crappy 2GB internal storage I have. There are apps that link the files to the internal storage, but I want a better solution (the one I listed above)
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What you want is an apple device which has that cramped up memory which in my opinion sucks... See android have 2gb of internal storage for apps because our apps are created to be able to save most of the memory onto the SD Card... If u want 32gb of memory for games ill recommend to get an iPod touch that way u will save your phones battery... I only support ipods, iPhones are just ridiculous trying to keep up with android which is not working...
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You might as well just use apps2sd
@ted619
No wonder my sister's 16GB Iphone 4S get's slow when she put too many apps on her phone. She will be back with android soon
ted619 said:
What you want is an apple device which has that cramped up memory which in my opinion sucks... See android have 2gb of internal storage for apps because our apps are created to be able to save most of the memory onto the SD Card... If u want 32gb of memory for games ill recommend to get an iPod touch that way u will save your phones battery... I only support ipods, iPhones are just ridiculous trying to keep up with android which is not working...
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I don't like apple devices as iOS is a locked operating system. Its like living in a communist country. I want more space for gaming as I am a gamer. Someone modded the Note II to do that, so I was wondering for the Amaze. I have bought many games on Google Play and I, in no way, want to spend twice for the same game on the iPod, plus Apple overprice their ridiculous products (I know Samsung does so, too, but at least they give more freedom and features).
One 2 GB game like NOVA 3, Modern Combat 3, Amazing Spiderman, or Dark Knight Rises will fill it up, then you are left with insufficient space.
I have found an experimental fix as idk if removing the external sd would crash the system:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1874485
Not sure if this is what you're lookin for. But I've read THIS thread a while back. It's only for GameLoft games.
You won't be able to download it from the Play Store so you'll have to retrieve and install it manually but it still works.

[Q] To 16GB or not to 16GB, that is the question

I'm located in India where the Wifi-only 32GB Nexus 9 model is not available. The choice is either 32GB/LTE or 15GB/Wifi-only. I don't really want to pay extra for LTE which I don't plan to use. I'm wondering how the storage is partitioned on the 16GB model. I'm not planning to put too much in the way of videos and other media on the tablet (I'll use some Wifi connected storage device for media). I've got a Galaxy S2 with 16GB that has its storage partitioned such that while there is plenty of storage free the space for applications is filled up. Will I suffer from this with a 16GB variant of the Nexus 9?
Go with the 16gb
No point about paying $200 more for a 32gb
Note you will have 11.5gb free on the 16
I had a N7 2012 that was 16 gig and only time I ever filled up the storage was when I had a bunch of ROMs stored. Why I got the 16 gig N9 I couldn't see in spending that much for 16 gig of more storage. If I need more storage I can use an otg cable and connect an USB memory stick but over all 16 gig has served me well and I had the same concerns of would 16 gigs be enough when I was first looking at getting s tablet.
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It depends on what you do with you tablet, knowing that if you already have music on Google Play Music you don't have to store it on the memory (i.e, works too with Drive etc.). Same for videos, where you can keep on using wifi local connection with your PC or NAS.
So unless you install 6 big games of 1+ GB or memory use, 16GB (actually 11,5 GB free) will be all enough, no need for more !
iamroddo said:
I'm located in India where the Wifi-only 32GB Nexus 9 model is not available. The choice is either 32GB/LTE or 15GB/Wifi-only. I don't really want to pay extra for LTE which I don't plan to use. I'm wondering how the storage is partitioned on the 16GB model. I'm not planning to put too much in the way of videos and other media on the tablet (I'll use some Wifi connected storage device for media). I've got a Galaxy S2 with 16GB that has its storage partitioned such that while there is plenty of storage free the space for applications is filled up. Will I suffer from this with a 16GB variant of the Nexus 9?
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Hi, iamroddo...
My 16Gb WiFi-only Nexus 9 has about 11Gb of user space available... for user installed apps (games, utilities, widgets, tools, etc.) and content (documents, images, videos, music, etc.)
See screenshots below for outputs from my various diagnostic apps.
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On all of my Android devices, I tend to keep content (music, pics, documents, videos) stored either on a cloud based service (Box, DropBox, Google Drive, etc) or on an SD Card (as on my HTC One M8 phone). Obviously the SD Card isn't an option for the Nexus 9, as it doesn't have SD Card support. This frees up internal storage for the installation of apps... And also, because I do a lot of tinkering on my N9, I like to keep backups of software (eg. Titanium, NANDROIDs, etc) and they can consume a fair chunk of space!!!
Anyhow, I guess if you're not planning on using LTE, it does seem like a lot to pay for a feature you're not likely to use.
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One option, if you're looking for more (local) storage is to investigate something called OTG (On-the-Go) cables.
I remember reading about these a couple of years ago, when I got my original Nexus 7. It wasn't something I ever followed through, 'cos I had no need of of one. But essentially, and as I understand it, an OTG cable is a cable that you can connect a USB memory stick to the Nexus device via it's USB port. You'll also need software installed on the Nexus 9 to support it... I vaguely recall something called Nexus Media Importer being talked about at the time, as it didn't require the Nexus to be rooted..
Found the Google PlayStore link....
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.homeysoft.nexususb.importer
This article is also worth a read...
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/nexus-9-full-usb-otg-support
...in which it appears all that you need is ES File Explorer, to couple a memory stick to the N9, via an OTG cable.
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Anyway, just some thoughts and ideas, and perhaps something worth further invertigation and research.
Hope this of some use, and good luck in whatever you decide.
Rgrds,
Ged.

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