I was rooted with Gingerbreak, V6'd, bloatfrozen. I reversed the freeze, unrooted and factory reset. I did not redo the scripts (mistake?), but all seems like factory new.
I've gone into system update looking for Gingerbread as shown on the Verizon Site, but it says no updates available. Do I just have to wait a bit? Or did I do something that makes my phone not see the update?
EDIT: Ah, seems I was toooooo anxious to get GB. Just read it is NOT released yet, just the info on it. I've been hosed. Or better stated, I didn't do enough research and hosed myself.
Nuts.
Easy Killer
newskate9 said:
I was rooted with Gingerbreak, V6'd, bloatfrozen. I reversed the freeze, unrooted and factory reset. I did not redo the scripts (mistake?), but all seems like factory new.
I've gone into system update looking for Gingerbread as shown on the Verizon Site, but it says no updates available. Do I just have to wait a bit? Or did I do something that makes my phone not see the update?
EDIT: Ah, seems I was toooooo anxious to get GB. Just read it is NOT released yet, just the info on it. I've been hosed. Or better stated, I didn't do enough research and hosed myself.
Nuts.
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Ouch, Don't Be So Rough On Yourself.
IMHO, in the future wait until people actually start getting the update before worrying about making yourself ready for one. No use to suffer with the horrible out-of-box state of the phone.
The end of the world is coming, quick...get in the basement and close the hatch!
Do I have to even bother with unrooting I wonder? Or unload the script load(supercharg)? Or will gingerbread just set it all back to factory?
gingerbread will remove your root and break any root app that is running, so no you dont have to go through that whole process
Ok.....so I have side loaded apps onto my Nook Tablet and they work great. When the 1.4.1 update came this week I wasn't able to add more apps by side loading, but I really don't want any others, just the ones I already have--mostly Amazon apps for video, kindle, and such which all still work. So I really don't need to root my tablet, but the question that is haunting me is whether B&N will issue a new update that will make my working side loaded apps inoperative. And what would be worse is if they also put out an update that would stop the ability of loading the 1.4.0 from the sd card. And that would mean no one could root who has been updated to that new update.
Any ideas on whether B&N would or could do these things? If so, I think I will want to root as soon as possible, but if not I'm happy with the way things are at the moment and in that case I would leave it just as it is.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.......
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Ok.....so I have side loaded apps onto my Nook Tablet and they work great. When the 1.4.1 update came this week I wasn't able to add more apps by side loading, but I really don't want any others, just the ones I already have--mostly Amazon apps for video, kindle, and such which all still work. So I really don't need to root my tablet, but the question that is haunting me is whether B&N will issue a new update that will make my working side loaded apps inoperative. And what would be worse is if they also put out an update that would stop the ability of loading the 1.4.0 from the sd card. And that would mean no one could root who has been updated to that new update.
Any ideas on whether B&N would or could do these things? If so, I think I will want to root as soon as possible, but if not I'm happy with the way things are at the moment and in that case I would leave it just as it is.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.......
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About the concerns you have you are definitely right B&N can do that but as always devs here will try to find a way to fix but as i see it things are getting harder so i will say go for it go back to stock, root and block that OTA that is pulling user's hair . There is a method going to have 1.4.1 with root and working android market but still you have to first go back to stock.
Veronica
I never wanted to root myself (I need root on my phone, not so much on my tablet), I just wanted to be able to sideload. Now that they've attacked that, there's no reason to believe they won't go farther.
If you can't get everything you need/want from the current B&N ecosphere, then not rooting is rolling the dice. Maybe they'll stop with that, or maybe they'll even loosen up and give easy sideloading back at some point (such was the rumor a week ago), but I'm not inclined to trust them at the moment. If you root now and block OTA, then you don't have to trust them.
OK here's the issue, I really don't want to root my wife's tablet but I'm confused. I originally was able to put on the amazon app store and had no problem until the new update. I keep reading that if you were able to side load before the update it didnt change your settings. But every time I try all these new ways of doing it it doesn't work. So I really don't know why all these people are saying that these ways work cause I can't seem to get them to. Has anyone actually tried these on a never rooted nook that worked before the update changed. I don't mean to vent but I'm getting frustrated.
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If you had apps sideloaded prior to the update to 1.4.1, they should still work. However, the actual update to 1.4.1 broke the ability to (easily) sideload. I've blocked OTA updates on my unit, and am staying at the 1.4.0 software because of this.
It is possible to roll back to 1.4.0, but it's not trivial to do.
It's been a while since I've logged in to see what's going on, and I can't believe all the changes!
I'm beyond NooB status, so please bear with me. When I rooted, I only ever got as far as freezing the Device Mgr, and my software version says Unavailable. Never got as far as getting BN functionality back. Because I was worried about still getting the OTAs, I leave the wi-fi off when I'm not using it.
A. Is leaving the wi-fi off really necessary?
B. I heard there are N2A cards out. Because I have no BN functionality and my software version says Unavailable, can I still use this card? I'm hoping to get the BN stuff back without having to do the real steps that all you pros take, because frankly, I shouldn't be messing with this stuff.
Thanks so much for whatever help you can give!
You've just got to see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498952
Hello,
I own the kindle fire HDX 8.9 3rd generation. Yesterday i rerolled my version back to 3.2.4, everything seemed to be working just fine.
But after i closed my case and reopened it after half an hour my device was shutted down (the battery was 80%). Since i've been trying to turn it on with no succes. I've also contacted amazon support who were willing to give me an "huge" sale on my next purchase (20$) since they don't think it will ever work again.
On my pc in device manager my kindle does show up, but when i try to install adb drivers i get an error 10.
I'm hoping to get some help here.
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Hello,
I own the kindle fire HDX 8.9 3rd generation. Yesterday i rerolled my version back to 3.2.4, everything seemed to be working just fine.
But after i closed my case and reopened it after half an hour my device was shutted down (the battery was 80%). Since i've been trying to turn it on with no succes. I've also contacted amazon support who were willing to give me an "huge" sale on my next purchase (20$) since they don't think it will ever work again.
On my pc in device manager my kindle does show up, but when i try to install adb drivers i get an error 10.
I'm hoping to get some help here.
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Did you block OTA and/or disable WiFi after rolling back to 3.2.8? If not you likely received an update from Amazon which often leads to a hard brick (no recovery).
What version were you on before and did you directly edit build prop?
Try holding the power button for up to 60 sec. Any response?
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Did you block OTA and/or disable WiFi after rolling back to 3.2.8? If not you likely received an update from Amazon which often leads to a hard brick (no recovery).
What version were you on before and did you directly edit build prop?
Try holding the power button for up to 60 sec. Any response?
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No i didn't block the OTA, i wasn't even planning on rooting and stuff, i downloaded the 3.2.4 from amazons site.
I downgraded from the newest versien 4.?.? (it didn't work with my vpn)
I have absolutely no response when pressing it for 60 seconds
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No i didn't block the OTA, i wasn't even planning on rooting and stuff, i downloaded the 3.2.4 from amazons site.
I downgraded from the newest versien 4.?.? (it didn't work with my vpn)
I have absolutely no response when pressing it for 60 seconds
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You can't go from 4.x to anything below 3.2.8. Amazon incorporated anti-rollback protection after 3.2.6. If you try to install an earlier version it will permanently disable the device. Also known as an 'efuse'. Sorry mate, there is no recovery.
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You can't go from 4.x to anything below 3.2.8. Amazon incorporated anti-rollback protection after 3.2.6. If you try to install an earlier version it will permanently disable the device. Also known as an 'efuse'. Sorry mate, there is no recovery.
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What the ****...
Why the fuc*k* do they offer a download of 3.2.5 on their website?
So there is seriously no way to recover it? Well good by all my brithday money:good:
**** you amazon
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What the ****...
Why do they offer a download of 3.2.5 on their website?
So there is seriously no way to recover it? Well good by all my brithday money:good:
**** you amazon
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Really sorry this happened. For future reference system images are supplied to repair or upgrade a device. Downgrades are always risky and rarely supported regardless of mfg. In this case a little knowledge (likely gained through these forums) met a loaded gun. Unfortunately, there is no known fix to an efuse brick.
Davey126 said:
Really sorry this happened. For future reference system images are supplied to repair or upgrade a device. Downgrades are always risky and rarely supported regardless of mfg. In this case a little knowledge (likely gained through these forums) met a loaded gun. Unfortunately, there is no known fix to an efuse brick.
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Yeah i feel like a huge turd...
Well thanks anyway... F#king amazon :c
Have you looked at some of the possible techniques around from last year? There were reports of holding the power button down for over a minute to try and get to Fastboot or something... have a look around and you may find something, hope isn't always lost.
You can get into fastboot by holding the minus button while booting, but I am not sure how much it will help with a locked boot loader. Technically, it should flash a factory image, but I am not sure anyone has gotten that to work on the hdx. Note, if you try this, the windows drivers are a pain and there is a special way to run commands for the hdx. Check out the boot unlock op for the commands, the rest of the thread for the drivers, and know you are in uncharted territory.
Good luck,
Leko
From my understanding, blowing an eFuse is physical and thus irreversible unless you replace the actual chip.
I messed mine up, too I believe. I tried flashing the new safestrap ROM with the older safestrap. And now only the gray kindle fire logo stays on. I tried holding down the power button a minute, but just turns the gray logo off and on. I'm assuming there is no way out of this, correct?
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I messed mine up, too I believe. I tried flashing the new safestrap ROM with the older safestrap. And now only the gray kindle fire logo stays on. I tried holding down the power button a minute, but just turns the gray logo off and on. I'm assuming there is no way out of this, correct?
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Correct (sorry).
Yeah.. I gambled. Guess I lost this round.
what kind of douchebag company keeps a version of an os on their website that will brick their device without warning ? if i were you i would never buy one of their products and since the same thing happened to me i will do the same :/
Jasonbrody14 said:
what kind of douchebag company keeps a version of an os on their website that will brick their device without warning ? if i were you i would never buy one of their products and since the same thing happened to me i will do the same :/
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While I appreciate your frustration this is not Amazon's fault. The actions you and others took are not recommended by Amazon nor most other device manufacturers. The 3.2.8 rollback file that you used was silently captured w/o Amazon's permission and was intended for devices that would never received an OTA update. A few clever individuals figured out how to exploit that file to facilitate 4.5.4 -> 4.5.2 rollbacks (also not supported by Amazon). There are warnings everywhere that wifi must be kept off (or the device placed in 'airplane mode') when using this rollback technique. I am very sorry you lost your device but ultimately the risks and responsibility for bad outcomes are borne by the owner.
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While I appreciate your frustration this is not Amazon's fault. The actions you and others took are not recommended by Amazon nor most other device manufacturers. The 3.2.8 rollback file that you used was silently captured w/o Amazon's permission and was intended for devices that would never received an OTA update. A few clever individuals figured out how to exploit that file to facilitate 4.5.4 -> 4.5.2 rollbacks (also not supported by Amazon). There are warnings everywhere that wifi must be kept off (or the device placed in 'airplane mode') when using this rollback technique. I am very sorry you lost your device but ultimately the risks and responsibility for bad outcomes are borne by the owner.
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yeah its my fault for installing an old update i admit that but they host several other versions on their website that arnt 3.2.8 that also brick the device. i just wonder why they would even do that at least instead of permanently killing the device it would just soft brick it :/
Jasonbrody14 said:
yeah its my fault for installing an old update i admit that but they host several other versions on their website that arnt 3.2.8 that also brick the device. i just wonder why they would even do that at least instead of permanently killing the device it would just soft brick it :/
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Amazon updates don't brick unless: 1) the device is rooted (which means you can get around all protections); or 2) something goes wrong with the update (as occasionally happens to all devices regardless of make). The stock updater will reject attempts to rollback or install an incompatible update. My local auto parts store carries lots of engine elixirs that can work wonders if used correctly. Go off-label and one can 'brick' a $4K engine in minutes.
I'm not ragging on you; what's done is done. Hopefully this post will help someone else contemplating rolling back their device. Tinkers beware: the road to the candy store is laced with land mines.