Seperate Forums - Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0

I think we should seperate the 4.0 and 5.0 forum into two seperate forums. Most of the roms and kernels, etc... are not cross compatible so there is no reason why we should keep them as a single forum. and if not, then we should at least have two different android development sections in this forum so we can keep everything seperate.

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Development for the 5.0 version is almost null right now, so I don't think it's worth the effort.
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Plus, devs for both devices can help devs for the other device! United we stand, divided we fall! Who would have thought Patrick Henry had a galaxy player!
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iJimaniac said:
Plus, devs for both devices can help devs for the other device! United we stand, divided we fall! Who would have thought Patrick Henry had a galaxy player!
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lol i thought about that too.
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SirRhor said:
Development for the 5.0 version is almost null right now, so I don't think it's worth the effort.
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first the 5.0 version was more active than the 4.0 version or at least i felt that way,and now i see more and more 4.0 topics so i guess the 4.0 are the king of queens

Too bad, that Samsung threw 2 players on the market last year. If only the differences weren't that big. I mean e.g. why does the sgp5 has a flash light but no Wolfson DAC?
The developement base combined would be so much stronger for both devices.
Now, maybe Android Jelly Bean gives development for both devices a little push.

Currently I have no idea how to get jellybean to the sgp devices. Only the 5.0 has ics and a lot of stuff is still broken. But separate forums is a good idea and maybe add the 3.6 and 4.2 players...
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+1 from me, at the moment it's so hard to find updates for the 5.0 roms in that huge pile of 4.0 threads. It would be so much easier to have a subforum for that.

kekx said:
+1 from me, at the moment it's so hard to find updates for the 5.0 roms in that huge pile of 4.0 threads. It would be so much easier to have a subforum for that.
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That's the thing, there are NO updates for the 5.0 GB ROMS. ICS ROMS are not usable if you care for the crappy camera, Bluetooth functionality or HW acceleration.
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[4.0]ICS Port Progress

Hello Guys,
i opened this Thread, so that the Galaxy Player 5 and 4 don'T share the same thread for ICS.
It's to confusing.
I will also update this Post with the current state of work.
Reserved for future post
Yeah um, ambrice came out with CM7 and tdmcode also came out with CM7 and there are free ics themes on the Play Store that you could use with Theme Chosser, soo..... This isn't really nessacary... Sorry.
No, this is for Galaxy Player 4.0
Not for 5.0
At the moment the ICS Port thread is used for both.
And CM7 is not ICS. On the 4.0 we also have CM7 but thats not the point.
Thanks for your reply.
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Thanks for the thought but the 4.0 and 5.0 players are similar enough that one thread is really nice, at least for me (I just hope JackpotClavin doesn't get too irritated by me tagging along on his coattails and asking questions). IMO it would be better to have a separate thread for CM7 and CM9.
Also, I have a project on github created for all the ROMs. It will host both CM7 and CM9 for 4.0 and 5.0 players. Assuming all the devs agree, and they all have so far.
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Yeah um, ambrice came out with CM7 and tdmcode also came out with CM7 and there are free ics themes on the Play Store that you could use with Theme Chosser, soo..... This isn't really nessacary... Sorry.
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You have to be kidding me. You think a them of an OS is just as good as the OS itself. "Check it out guys, with the theme I can run Chrome!! .. nvm"
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Ok i didn't knew. The ROMs are interchangeable between 4 and 5? That means, we only need kernel or? I have eu player, so if I could help. I will help.
Thanks
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There isn't a thread for the 5.0?
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I thought ICS Port Thread should be for 5.0
Tecardo said:
I thought ICS Port Thread should be for 5.0
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I originaly made ICS Port thread for the 4.0 (but I didin't specify it because it is only the method of porting it) with the time it became the HQ for ICS port to both galaxy players. (4.0 and 5.0)
But it the screenshots of the post it displayed a 5.0?
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Well just because it contains a screenshot for the 5.0 (and it wasn't even me) dosen't mean the thread is for the 5.0.
True. I understand now tho
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Don't you think you should have the 4.0 CM9 ROM in this thread? It'd be lot easier for them....
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Yes it should be postet here.
Wait, CM9 has been ported to the 4.0?? Man, I need to keep better track of what's going on around here, lol!
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Not ready yet. Wait some time
Could we have an update on the port? I am really excited to see a alpha or beta version.

Galaxy pocket

I have a request.. I hope any one out there can make an android 4.0 or 4.1 for our beloved galaxy pocket...
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I have a request.. I hope any one out there can make an android 4.0 or 4.1 for our beloved galaxy pocket...
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I m sure that this is going to happen soon. Here at XDA we have some very skilled and knowledgeable developers who are equivalent to Google Engineers. :highfive:
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I have a request.. I hope any one out there can make an android 4.0 or 4.1 for our beloved galaxy pocket...
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wait for a little while i think samsung is planning to update it to 4.0 since pocket+ (who has similar spec) will be released in 4.0
i hope will be released android 4.0 or 4.1 official for pocket
Rather than creating threads which will go down un noticed, contact some developers. make a positive approach guys posting threads here won't attract any devs
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I don't think Android 4.0 will ever come out on GP as it is a low-end device!
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I m sure that this is going to happen soon. Here at XDA we have some very skilled and knowledgeable developers who are equivalent to Google Engineers. :highfive:
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I agree with that!
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s5300 camera
Hello. This is my first post about galaxy pocket and, surprisingly, nobody has talked about its 2MP camera ...
With its powerful 830Mhz core, is it possible to improve video recording to 640x480 @30fps... or at least, 480x360 @20fps or more if possible?
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I don't think Android 4.0 will ever come out on GP as it is a low-end device!
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agreed!!
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If developers think to do then Samsung can easily bring a Arm v6 android 4 versions. After all impossible is noting except being God
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Still no jellybean port for our pocket... geez ...
you're wrong dude...
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If Broadcom releases driver source then kitkat is also possible for galaxy pocket.........Learn something about cyanogenmod
It's time to try out new devices, No time for some handset devices like Galaxy pocket cos it's time for lollipop not some crazy android 2.3 Gingerbread

[News]No Android 5.0 update for Galaxy S2

As stated by GSMArena website there will be no Android 5.0 update for Galaxy S2 and obviously should apply to the variants too just like ours.
Although this news is leaked from the company's insider, it may be true. This news may be highly disappointing to many. Here's the link. Go ahead check it out.
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s_ii...roid_50_others_get_stuck_at_422-news-5720.php
Our device will almost be 2 years old by the time 5.0 comes out, doesn't surprise me one bit. That's why we have awesome devs On xda
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Hell its a gift that we are running 4.2.2....I never thought for a second we would get 5.0
Getting a new phone this year anyway....but the i777 has been a trooper...and I have no complaints.
This just in:
The sky is blue
Not shocking. Will be upgrading in the next couple of months.
Agreed on that it's a miracle that we're even getting 4.2 and by we I mean the i9100. I'm available to upgrade in may finally and right now it's between the s4 and the one but I'm having a hard time choosing, if there really isn't going to be cyaogenmod for it (we'll see about that once it's out) then that's a huuuuge detractor, i just really hate the buttons on the one and prefer the features of touchwiz to sense (I do NOT want BlinkFeed).
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Hope we get the port atleast.
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Our device will almost be 2 years old by the time 5.0 comes out, doesn't surprise me one bit. That's why we have awesome devs On xda
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with the kind of dev support samsung gives I do not think we will have a good cm or aokp build. just ask entropy512 who is i believe maintainer of our device tree in cm.
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Agreed on that it's a miracle that we're even getting 4.2 and by we I mean the i9100. I'm available to upgrade in may finally and right now it's between the s4 and the one but I'm having a hard time choosing, if there really isn't going to be cyaogenmod for it (we'll see about that once it's out) then that's a huuuuge detractor, i just really hate the buttons on the one and prefer the features of touchwiz to sense (I do NOT want BlinkFeed).
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i am going sony xperia z way as devs are raving about the way sony provides all and lot of extras to fix build etc.
i prefer stock over touchwiz so makes sense for me to move to xperia z and get all cm goodies
If we do not even have 4.2.2, then I'm not even thinking about 5.x
Honestly I expected this to happen. But, I also expect that we'll have functional builds of 5.0 on the i777 also.
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Honestly I expected this to happen. But, I also expect that we'll have functional builds of 5.0 on the i777 also.
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I don't, I'm almost positive that there won't be 5.0 at all for this phone unless we get a new cyanogenmod maintainer for our device.
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I just read over at our Sprint E4GT forum that the GS2 variants will get 5.0
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I just read over at our Sprint E4GT forum that the GS2 variants will get 5.0
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I kind of doubt that
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Funny all the news I been seeing on the Sprint variant is saying 4.1.2.
I had to see it for myself http://m.cnet.com/news/sprints-samsung-galaxy-s2-scores-jelly-bean-update/57577057 if only att would get on board for jelly bean. But no way will the s2 of any variety will see 5.0 officially
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Yeah I very much doubt. Upgrade time coming up anyway! But happy with task650 4.2.2 as always
I know there are some that are hopeful for possible some unofficial ports of 5.0 coming to the GSII, but it's time to let go. I know that not everyone has a budget to replace their phone every 2 years, but you have to keep in mind that things change. Our phone (the I9100 + variants) has been a solid rock from the start, but android is increasing at a very fast rate. And it is also becoming very mature, with that. GB was very slim compared to what JB has added to the system. Ram usage has gone up ~50% from what I've noticed. Our phone only has 1gig of ram, I highly doubt Keylime pie would run as effectively as GB or ICS has. I've noticed some instances in JB already where lack of ram has caused hindrances. Nothing big, but it's there.
Shawn said:
Honestly I expected this to happen. But, I also expect that we'll have functional builds of 5.0 on the i777 also.
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What about SamSung galaxy S3?
ittus said:
What about SamSung galaxy S3?
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What about it?
Go speculate in the GS3 forum if you want, this is the GS2 forum
But we should note that, although galaxy s3 and note 2 will get the key lime pie, when will the klp release?According to the present condition, I think we cannot see the real android 5.0 in a short time.

Lack of development?

I'm just curious as to why Verizon note 2 is lacking so much in the ROM development side of things compared to other carriers. Is it solely because we are still only 4.1.1? Just thought it would be interesting to see peoples input!
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By the way, sorry if this is in the wrong thread :/
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
Oops! Sorry for taking up space Haha. Didn't look too far into the forums for anything related.
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It's been discussed already...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127422&highlight=development
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Only a quarter of a year ago....And even in the thread you linked there were whiny people complaining that someone else at some point had asked the question. Lighten up.
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Yet Scott just released a zip that will allow us to flash t mobile, and att roms. Give me a moment, and I will find the thread, and post it here. If you want to see a dead phone, go look at the rezound. The phone is barely a year and a half old, and it is marching into obscurity. The droid incredible has more action. These threads aren't going to produce more roms, just bad attitudes. Try playing with all of the mods we have, and theme it to whatever you want it to be. Morphology, Xposed, and a slew of others. Troll the other carriers threads, and pull mods that you want. That is all we can ask for, unless you are paying the devs a paycheck.
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HughesNet said:
. Lighten up.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Really dude? Get a life.
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Yes, really.
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jbrown30 said:
Didn't mean to step on any toes or anything. There just hasn't been hardly any development on here lately so I thought I would get something going. Trust me if I had the time, and the abilities like these developers do, I would throw my hat in the ring. But at my current level of (lowly) expertise I should probably leave that up to the people that know what they're doing
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Which have you tried? Both Jedi and Jelly Beans are both great. I am using the mod in my sig right now as I like that it keeps the samsung allshare features working.
With a combination of Jelly Beans, Widget Locker, and a theme you could pretty much get anything done you want. Pick up the odd app or mod here and there to fill in the gaps.
By the way, if you want to give 4.1.2 a go Jedi is running that. It is great if you don't need the Samsung services.
Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
Most source built ROMs (AOSP) are going to have issues, whether major or minor, and are much easier to customize as you're dealing with XML and java. However, the lack of TW features keep people away from them.
With TouchWiz ROMs, you don't lose any functionality, but there is only so much that smali hacking can do. Most of this is just the time consuming nature of trying to hack a ROM via smali only. You could get everything in your favorite source built ROM if you wanted to take the time to do so. But, given that this is a for-fun thing and not a money making venture, developers aren't likely to take that amount of time if they wouldn't use it themselves.
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I think this has been my main take away from discussions, and browsing the other forums. Quantity in this case definitely does not equal quality. I don't see the point in having 10 options if only 2 or 3 are viable. However, that is just my opinion.
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I would definitely prefer a few quality roms with great support than 27 versions of cyanogenmod that are 98% the same. Beans, MeanBean, Tweaked, Jedi, Elemental...that should be plenty to keep the crack flashers happy.
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Here is a thread with all the info for running other carriers. This should keep you busy for awhile. Though, I hear sprint roms are a disaster.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239353
Is there a way to run Sprint, and T-Mobile roms on Verizon?
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Appreciate the input man!
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What is a rom really? To me It's just a better version of what the manufacturer builds. The stuff is basically the same for the most part with the addition of tweaks for better battery performance etc... That are added by the dev. The thing that makes a rom different are the things like themes and different looking batteries etc..., so why have 100 roms that essentially are the same? I would prefer to have 1 rom that performs well with a bunch of themes and mods hence i only use meanbean and love the real icon theme, or morphology. Mean bean is a great rom and with pbj kernel even better.
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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To each their own ya know. My reason personally for rooting and unlocking is personalization, which is why I tend to end up at aosp more often than not. There's plenty of options and stuff to mix around. The only reason why I made a topic about it was because of the extensive development on other carriers. Not because I'm not pleased with what's here, I just have a hard time staying on one ROM for long
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This answer makes me glad I didn't flame you last night when I was drunk haha. Meanbean plus morphology is plenty of customization for me haha
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stock android firmware has evolved into something so much better than it use to be...im still on beans build 2 because it flatout works and has all the things I need. Its hard to develop when stock touchwiz is so good out of the box. the only real thing that touchwiz needs is themeing. beans takes the cake on that. aosp was nice on my gs1 because it trimmed the fat and made the ol single core with limited ram run smooth. these quad core beasts are designed to handle bloat and a festure rich skins(touchwiz), so aosp does not have the appeal and performance advantage it use to. however for the folks that
keep this device well past tthe point verizon quits supporting it, then aosp will shine...simply for the fact it will bring the latest android offerings and keep the note 2 alive.
I think it had A LOT to do with TW and Spen/Note 2 specific features. Nobody really wants to lose them, and there's only so many ways to mess with TW. There's plenty of AOSP/KP stuff but look at the involvement compared to TW roms... It's there, but not as much... My take on it anyway.
Edit: Yeah, what Droidstyle said, lol.
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Don't forget that Samsung has promised an update to 4.2 for the Note II sometime this year. No real timetable, but when it comes it will be a shot in the arm for development.
Myself, I bounce between Beans ROM and CyanogenMod. The S-Pen features are what generally keep me hopping, but both are good.

[Q] Is Quincyatt (I717) Further Development Stopped/delayed/suspended ?

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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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Jamie you the man.
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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
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so what i am reading here is you have 6 posts. i understand that you cannot post in development yet, but that does not slow you from reading.
i am not a technical brainchild and lack the ability to understand some of the terminology, so you will have to give me a little leeway.
development may have appeared to have slowed, but take into consideration the age of our device and the rate manufacturers are producing devices. we may not ever get another official upgrade for our Note, but my phone has ran better in the last few months than previous 8 months. there are some brilliant folks out there working selflessly for us. you may not find much in the straight CM development department, but since release of 10.2/ 4.3 roms, it is much more stable than 4.2 ever was. it runs smooth and effortless with none of the random reboots which plagued 4.2.
now we have quickly bumped to the 4.4 development which is still in its infancy. give it time. there are 2 Alpha/Preview releases right now, with at least another in the works that i know of. my guess is someone will have a Beta or full release by the end of the week at the rate these guys go. cant hold me to it as i am just a recipient who benefits from their deeds. that's just my guess from what i see as far as their work pace.
so excuse me now, i have to put some Kit Kat 4.4 on my phone, which has only been approval to run official 4.1.2 JB.
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out, I will try your builds.
I will be grumpy user, I promise
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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as i said take the tour, take some roms for a test drive. i don't know what you consider your experience level is........
everything runs a bit different on everybodys phone. for example, the Carbon rom has lots of cool features, but it just doesn't seem to want to work on my phone. i just don't want you to label all roms on the basis of one. Hellybean runs great on my phone. there are some here that wont give a phone or rom time to settle in. they make so many tweaks and adjustments in a rapid amount of time, they don't know if there adjustments actually did anything.
so be patient......if its not compatible for your phone, you will probably know right away. if it works, give it some time. there are good and helpful people here. just try and help yourself first and read.
getting ready to slam some Kit Kat on my phone right now with Jaime's CM11 preview 4.
As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Yeah I know
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Personally, I'm loving the AOSP feel of 4.4 in a way that I have never really cared for it in Android versions prior. The way Google now is integrated into the GEL is how I would use Nova Launcher to setup previous versions.
With it's super stability, I am really praying that you give us something akin to your Nexus or Evervolv roms...Hell if we can just get working TTS and Video camera on top of what you've given us with your alpha, I'm done...............
.......until my next phone.
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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What are you talking about? What strategy? What balance?
Devs are also users. Almost all of the devs work on the devices that they own. We may not have the quantity of devs for other devices, but we definitely have quality devs. I also have GTab 2, and LG Optimus and Galaxy S2 LTE, which I manage for my family. Some have very active devs, some don't, but they all have good devs.
I don't know what you mean by "enough attention from developers", but we are getting plenty from our devs even if we don't deserve them. Whatever we are getting beyond the official 4.1.2 is all gravy. Jamie's CM11 preview is running awesome, and I haven't tried Patch's 4.4 rom, but I expect the same.
What more are you asking for?

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