Ok, the unbricker is up.
100% success during testing.
You can get support on freenode IRC channel #FeedPanda.
You can find the detailed instructions and download here:
http://unlimited.io/lazypanda-s-off-public-beta/evo-4g-lte-unbricker/
Before people ask the obvious questions
- No there is not going to be a windows version
- No there is not going to be a mac version
Nothing for Windows though huh?
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reverepats said:
Nothing for Windows though huh?
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The WINDOWS link was easy. S-off in about 5 minutes.
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Has the root cause been determined that is soft bricking these devices?
njfoses said:
Has the root cause been determined that is soft bricking these devices?
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yes
Panda worked fine for me on windows
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reverepats said:
Nothing for Windows though huh?
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Thats what the live cd is for
njfoses said:
Has the root cause been determined that is soft bricking these devices?
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globatron said:
yes
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So im assuming people that have not ran the tool yet should wait for an updated version with the fix?
Ladies and gentlemen do not panic...these fine folks helped me resolve my issue and got this under control.
njfoses said:
So im assuming people that have not ran the tool yet should wait for an updated version with the fix?
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If you follow the instructions on the download page, using the windows link works fine. And is completely automated.
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reverepats said:
Nothing for Windows though huh?
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I sent you a PM last night regarding the LiveCD.
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awillis111 said:
If you follow the instructions on the download page, using the windows link works fine. And is completely automated.
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People have followed the steps correctly and are now soft bricked. This is not a bash against the dev's of the tool, as they did an amazing job. If there is going to be an updated tool with less risk some people may want to wait, thats all.
njfoses said:
People have followed the steps correctly and are now soft bricked. This is not a bash against the dev's of the tool, as they did an amazing job. If there is going to be an updated tool with less risk some people may want to wait, thats all.
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Not trying to bash. I used the tool about 0430 cdt today, and it worked smooth as butter.
It seemed to me that most of the problems were on the Linux tool. But, I may be wrong.
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So hold off on S-off until this thing is sorted out? i'm on windows btw.
issue identified and being fixed. Unricking tool will be released by Unlimited.IO soon
Samip430 said:
So hold off on S-off until this thing is sorted out? i'm on windows btw.
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There has already been a lot of success on Windows. Even if you do brick.... it looks like they already have a solution tool being worked on!
my phone was a success on windows, even flashed the zip to remove the warning text on the boot screen.
leerage said:
There has already been a lot of success on Windows. Even if you do brick.... it looks like they already have a solution tool being worked on!
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thank goodness because mine bricked using the Windows tool.
DiMENZi0N said:
thank goodness because mine bricked using the Windows tool.
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+1, same method. Got to the reboot stage and hung for about 7 minutes.
Please help:
I think my phone is bricked.. it went through initial setup then setup attempted to reboot and it never did after waiting 5 min. So i unplugged and now my phone wont turn on.
I was htc dev unlock already with regwood mod before this.
Please help !
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Is there any root method for mac?
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some more dead kittens
Aldo101t said:
some more dead kittens
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Let's not start that here. It got old quick.
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Aldo101t said:
some more dead kittens
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I don't understand
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edited because i'm crazy
Void4ever
Edit: forgive me i had a slight bout with insanity there, for some reason i thought you were talking about a custom bootloader not root. I think root is possible without unlocking the loader but i'd have to go over the dev section again. Again sorry
jonah1234 said:
Is there any root method for mac?
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VirtualBox: For the few instances when you absolutely must have Windows to run a specific program. Much better than Parallels, imho. It runs flawlessly on my Mac, but in all honestly, I rarely have the need to boot Windows.
void4ever said:
edited because i'm crazy
Void4ever
Edit: forgive me i had a slight bout with insanity there, for some reason i thought you were talking about a custom bootloader not root. I think root is possible without unlocking the loader but i'd have to go over the dev section again. Again sorry
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Your insanity totally made me laugh though. Thanks for that.
dbrits said:
VirtualBox: For the few instances when you absolutely must have Windows to run a specific program. Much better than Parallels, imho. It runs flawlessly on my Mac, but in all honestly, I rarely have the need to boot Windows.
Your insanity totally made me laugh though. Thanks for that.
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I use a virtual box called vmware fusion cause I thought there might not be another way but I wanted to see anyway. Thanks
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jonah1234 said:
I use a virtual box called vmware fusion cause I thought there might not be another way but I wanted to see anyway. Thanks
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You're welcome. I had to ditch Parallels 5 when I upgraded to Lion because Nova Software refused to support it on 10.7. I did look into getting Fusion but I opted for Virtual Box since it was open source. Plus, like I said, I rarely have the need to boot Windows, so why pay for something I'll hardly use? I think the only time I've had to boot Windows is when I tried to theme a few apps for my phone. I've yet to find a decent Mac equivalent to zip7.
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Assuming you just need ADB you can download an Ubuntu live CD and run it off that. Completely free and relatively easy.
blazingwolf said:
Let's not start that here. It got old quick.
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Lol i think I've been around long enough that i remember when that started. I loled.
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void4ever said:
edited because i'm crazy
Void4ever
Edit: forgive me i had a slight bout with insanity there, for some reason i thought you were talking about a custom bootloader not root. I think root is possible without unlocking the loader but i'd have to go over the dev section again. Again sorry
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The phone can be rooted without unlocking the bootloader?
enricong said:
The phone can be rooted without unlocking the bootloader?
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It *should* be possible. The bootloader just locks the boot partition for one. Just not the system partition which is where ROM root access is. I'd have to go over it with a fine tooth comb to figure it out, just don't have the resources (or time) yet.
But again, I've been getting literally thrown around a gym and choked for the past week, so my brain isn't at a 100%. Anyone, feel free to chime in if I'm wrong.
I always thought you could get temp root, but it reverts back on a reboot.
*Madmoose* said:
I always thought you could get temp root, but it reverts back on a reboot.
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I thought that as well.
ok so it CAN be rooted but no one knows how at this point.
enricong said:
ok so it CAN be rooted but no one knows how at this point.
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As of now, no one has a method of rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader through HTCDev.com. However, HTC no longer supports unlocking the bootloader on this phone, so everyone is SOL unless you unlocked before they dropped the support. We will have to wait until someone finds an exploit to add root functionality.
cambunch said:
As of now, no one has a method of rooting the phone without unlocking the bootloader through HTCDev.com. However, HTC no longer supports unlocking the bootloader on this phone, so everyone is SOL unless you unlocked before they dropped the support. We will have to wait until someone finds an exploit to add root functionality.
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sorry, I meant that it CAN be TEMP rooted, but no one knows how.
but yes, I suppose not knowing how to temp root is equally as bad as not knowing how to perm root
enricong said:
sorry, I meant that it CAN be TEMP rooted, but no one knows how.
but yes, I suppose not knowing how to temp root is equally as bad as not knowing how to perm root
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When do u think we will find out how to root?
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jonah1234 said:
When do u think we will find out how to root?
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Anyone think the temp root method for the Rezound would work on the Dinc? Since they're almost the same phone....
If anyone wants to try the link is here http://www.jonamerica.com/technology/the-htc-rezound-root-guide/
Seriously doubt it would cause any errors or bricking or anything
AshtonTS said:
Anyone think the temp root method for the Rezound would work on the Dinc? Since they're almost the same phone....
If anyone wants to try the link is here http://www.jonamerica.com/technology/the-htc-rezound-root-guide/
Seriously doubt it would cause any errors or bricking or anything
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Zerg won't work on ICS
Mad props to the lazy panda guys. My phone bricked during the process. Followed their video, downloaded Linux to my 16gb stick and unbricked it. Ran lazy pandy again and success.
babyschmoof said:
Mad props to the lazy panda guys. My phone bricked during the process. Followed their video, downloaded Linux to my 16gb stick and unbricked it. Ran lazy pandy again and success.
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Same exact thing happened to me. Their unbricker did its magic and I was good to go again.
babyschmoof said:
Mad props to the lazy panda guys. My phone bricked during the process. Followed their video, downloaded Linux to my 16gb stick and unbricked it. Ran lazy pandy again and success.
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Same thing happened to me back in June.
This is no good....I'm far too frightened to get S-off with so many people bricking their phones.
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TW1L1GHT_K1N6 said:
This is no good....I'm far too frightened to get S-off with so many people bricking their phones.
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Then don't do it. Lol
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TW1L1GHT_K1N6 said:
This is no good....I'm far too frightened to get S-off with so many people bricking their phones.
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It was bricked, but the unbricker successfully brought mine back to life. It's worth the risk.
Just as the title states, New replacement phone..
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Dirty Racun on Ubuntu Live Cd.
64bit is not supported because of driver issues. Some have succeeded with it but that's a gamble and you won't get support from unlimited.io team.
How do I get the live cd?
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http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
I used 12.04. Just make sure its the 32bit. Choose to donate or not. It should download an ISO. Just burn that with imgburn or your preferred burning program.
+1
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Or you can use a usb and/or sd card
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I achieved S-off couple of days ago with windows 7 and 64 bit. I had no problems at all.
There are well known driver issues with 64 bit which is why a 32 bit system is required.
Download any iso for linux live and burn to CD. Or run from Windows 8 which works as well but you should get 64bit working since it works for me. Try deleting, registry entries etc and reinstall the correct drivers. Hope that helps.
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you can gamble on the x64 but I've done it several times and I haven't experienced a brick yet
Thanks, its pretty easy, HTC dev was down, so I reached out to regaw-lenaid, he took my identifier code and sent me unlock token through his account, I am now s-offed once again!!
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Also looking to get s off. Just bought the phone and updated to 3.16 like an idiot. I can't find anything compatible with windows 8.
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greeneperson said:
Also looking to get s off. Just bought the phone and updated to 3.16 like an idiot. I can't find anything compatible with windows 8.
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3.16 is currently not supported for s-off. And windows 8 is not supported. You'll probably have to use a live disc of ubuntu.
om4 said:
There are well known driver issues with 64 bit which is why a 32 bit system is required.
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You just have to use the universal drivers on 7-64
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always=LTE
laie1472 said:
You just have to use the universal drivers on 7-64
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always=LTE
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Universal drivers? Can you link please
bigdaddy619 said:
Universal drivers? Can you link please
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Yup here ya go. I've used them for quite some time haven't had any issues. YMMV.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583316
The link is inside of the thread.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always=LTE
laie1472 said:
Yup here ya go. I've used them for quite some time haven't had any issues. YMMV.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1583316
The link is inside of the thread.
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always=LTE
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I'm out of thanks so THANKS
bigdaddy619 said:
I'm out of thanks so THANKS
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Lmfao. Thanks man .
#Root-Hack_Mod*Always=LTE
I was worried about doing the procedure using 64 bit but it worked for me as well.
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Yes, it works on win 7 64 bit, was pretty easy...I do suggest you have adb preinstalled though, process was seamless.
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I have hardware version 0003
hboot 2.09.0000
3.15.651.16 710ord
I saw a 1 click root method that i think is not working right now after reading the last posts.
Whats the easiest way now?
Thanks for any input.
trsix said:
I have hardware version 0003
hboot 2.09.0000
3.15.651.16 710ord
I saw a 1 click root method that i think is not working right now after reading the last posts.
Whats the easiest way now?
Thanks for any input.
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Unlimited.io
Id keep an eye on that page. Afaik theres no root method yet for the latest ota (i think that's the one you're on)
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3.15 is supported by dirty racun
trsix said:
I have hardware version 0003
hboot 2.09.0000
3.15.651.16 710ord
I saw a 1 click root method that i think is not working right now after reading the last posts.
Whats the easiest way now?
Thanks for any input.
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Click the link in my sig for the files to unlock your bootloader and flash twrp recovery or like the person above said unlimited.io to gain s-off
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OM4 is right, i tried the it with my new evo but dont do the dirty racun first '
if you need help PM me i have plenty of time on my hands
om4 said:
3.15 is supported by dirty racun
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Yea just go to unlimited.io and you'll be all good, just make sure you back up your sd card first
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wait
thatotherguy.. said:
Yea just go to unlimited.io and you'll be all good, just make sure you back up your sd card first
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i got the bootloader unlocked thats all. the unlimited doesn't support win64 which is what i have. i'll wait until another way comes along.
trsix said:
i got the bootloader unlocked thats all. the unlimited doesn't support win64 which is what i have. i'll wait until another way comes along.
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Yea it does just do it,I got a new evo yesterday and I had windows 7 64bit, just make sure you have Ubuntu on a bootable CD or USB
PM me if you need help
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I did it with windows 7 64 bit without a Linux live CD..worked flawlessly. I'm s-offed hboot 1.19
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mrlakadaddy said:
I did it with windows 7 64 bit without a Linux live CD..worked flawlessly. I'm s-offed hboot 1.19
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Yea but what if he happens to be stuck in brick mode lol then what haha
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thatotherguy.. said:
Yea but what if he happens to be stuck in brick mode lol then what haha
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Ubuntu to the rescue lol
I used racunhunter on 64bit ubuntu. I do have the 32bit libs installed tho
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umm
jesuscash said:
Ubuntu to the rescue lol
I used racunhunter on 64bit ubuntu. I do have the 32bit libs installed tho
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might try it tomorrow
missing your shift?
thatotherguy.. said:
Yea but what if he happens to be stuck in brick mode lol then what haha
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I've s-offed all my evos with Windows 7 64 bit... Its only a matter of following instructions, easy though.
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trsix said:
might try it tomorrow
missing your shift?
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I still find myself turning the phone sideways to slide out the keyboard haha
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Okay i have a htc evo 4g lte and i have the viper 4g rom on it, (3.1.4) I rooted my phone when i first got it a long time ago and now i come to discover that it is still s on. I want to try to get it s off but i have hboot 1.12 and i dont have a linux so i cant use dirty racoon. I was looking for lazy panda but its no where to be found, even the website took it down. I am running on windows 7 and i dont want to change that. is there any way i can get s off on my evo? Also any roms you guys recommend? i haven't tried exploring past viper rom and cm10. But can someone please help ive spent all day googling and looking on here but all i can come up with is lazy panda and i wish i had the lazy panda software, and the other one i saw was dirty racoon and i dont have a linux to use it with. :crying:
Smileymk6 said:
Okay i have a htc evo 4g lte and i have the viper 4g rom on it, (3.1.4) I rooted my phone when i first got it a long time ago and now i come to discover that it is still s on. I want to try to get it s off but i have hboot 1.12 and i dont have a linux so i cant use dirty racoon. I was looking for lazy panda but its no where to be found, even the website took it down. I am running on windows 7 and i dont want to change that. is there any way i can get s off on my evo? Also any roms you guys recommend? i haven't tried exploring past viper rom and cm10. But can someone please help ive spent all day googling and looking on here but all i can come up with is lazy panda and i wish i had the lazy panda software, and the other one i saw was dirty racoon and i dont have a linux to use it with. :crying:
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Wrong section. Use dirtyracun while using windows command instead of sudo ./
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Smileymk6 said:
Okay i have a htc evo 4g lte and i have the viper 4g rom on it, (3.1.4) I rooted my phone when i first got it a long time ago and now i come to discover that it is still s on. I want to try to get it s off but i have hboot 1.12 and i dont have a linux so i cant use dirty racoon. I was looking for lazy panda but its no where to be found, even the website took it down. I am running on windows 7 and i dont want to change that. is there any way i can get s off on my evo? Also any roms you guys recommend? i haven't tried exploring past viper rom and cm10. But can someone please help ive spent all day googling and looking on here but all i can come up with is lazy panda and i wish i had the lazy panda software, and the other one i saw was dirty racoon and i dont have a linux to use it with. :crying:
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Use FacePalm it's much easier
bigdaddy619 said:
Use FacePalm it's much easier
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Dirtyracun is funner
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Delakit said:
Dirtyracun is funner
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I tired both and I couldn't get it to S-Off. n00bing
bigdaddy619 said:
Use FacePalm it's much easier
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I second facepalm.
I did run into a strange issue where I had to manually
eboot to bootloader and fastboot & issue the commands. I'm first to experience that problem. Other than that it worked great.
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scttydb411 said:
I second facepalm.
I did run into a strange issue where I had to manually
eboot to bootloader and fastboot & issue the commands. I'm first to experience that problem. Other than that it worked great.
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I also had to upgrade supersu to pro version. For some reason it wouldn't grant root to adb trying the sipercid commands.
poetxo said:
I tired both and I couldn't get it to S-Off. n00bing
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If you're on the latest firmware you'll need to use Babyracun to downgrade and then continue with Dirtyracun or Facepalm. I did Babyracun and then Facepalm.
scttydb411 said:
I second facepalm.
I did run into a strange issue where I had to manually
eboot to bootloader and fastboot & issue the commands. I'm first to experience that problem. Other than that it worked great.
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I also had to upgrade supersu to pro version. For some reason it wouldn't grant root to adb trying the sipercid commands.
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Weird. Never had any of those issues.
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Delakit said:
Dirtyracun is funner
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How so?
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scottspa74 said:
How so?
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More of a challenge. End result is cleaner.
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Smileymk6 said:
Okay i have a htc evo 4g lte and i have the viper 4g rom on it, (3.1.4) I rooted my phone when i first got it a long time ago and now i come to discover that it is still s on. I want to try to get it s off but i have hboot 1.12 and i dont have a linux so i cant use dirty racoon. I was looking for lazy panda but its no where to be found, even the website took it down. I am running on windows 7 and i dont want to change that. is there any way i can get s off on my evo? Also any roms you guys recommend? i haven't tried exploring past viper rom and cm10. But can someone please help ive spent all day googling and looking on here but all i can come up with is lazy panda and i wish i had the lazy panda software, and the other one i saw was dirty racoon and i dont have a linux to use it with. :crying:
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I was in the same position, just ended up borrowing a friend's macbook. Going S-Off on Linux is mockingly easy.
Try hopping on a friend's macbook for an hour or so?
Or Google Ubuntu live cd or usb.
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I didn't even know what Ubuntu was and I was able to get s-off. I suggest you make a live cd and play around with it until you feel comfortable. Its easy just follow the directions to the letter, and download all the files completly first before you try starting the s-off process. Thats what I didn't do and kept getting an error. Team Unlimited also has a support channel.
thicklizard said:
Or Google Ubuntu live cd or usb.
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Or use Windows. Lol. It was doable in the past and it still is. Well, last I checked, about a month ago.
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Delakit said:
Or use Windows. Lol. It was doable in the past and it still is. Well, last I checked, about a month ago.
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They dropped windows support, so unless he can find an older version, live cd it is.
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It says that I need to use the 32 bit version on ubuntu but I have a 64 bit windows 8 os. Well this work?
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Adebayo88 said:
It says that I need to use the 32 bit version on ubuntu but I have a 64 bit windows 8 os. Well this work?
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Burn a LiveCD
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A 32 bit or i386 Os will work on a x64 system. However you can install x64 Ubuntu and just install all the dependencies required using the i386 flag on apt-get
Edit: I recommend just getting the 32bit live cd or usb
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But it says
(((We only support Ubuntu 12.04 (and newer) 32bit, you may use a LiveCD if you have the wrong OS installed natively. LiveUSB will NOT work!))) Can i use usb any ways?
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jaysonpeyton said:
But it says
(((We only support Ubuntu 12.04 (and newer) 32bit, you may use a LiveCD if you have the wrong OS installed natively. LiveUSB will NOT work!))) Can i use usb any ways?
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Some have had success using LiveUSB but is it worth the risk?
jaysonpeyton said:
But it says
(((We only support Ubuntu 12.04 (and newer) 32bit, you may use a LiveCD if you have the wrong OS installed natively. LiveUSB will NOT work!))) Can i use usb any ways?
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They say live usb interferes with usb connection at times. Better to play it safe like big daddy said. Live CD is easy, I use img burn to burn the iso.
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