I can get £100 for my 16Gb wifi which makes the upgrade price to a nexus 7 8Gb only £65 in the UK.
For this I get ICS, quad core, IPS screen. But lose 8Gb and pen.
Is it worth it ?
I've been debating the same decision too, and with a PSP and zune lying around that I'm not using I might be able to accomplish it, but for some reason I just don't wanna part with this device. I'm torn honestly. I keep thinking why decide flyer or nexus when come christmas time I'll get my usual Christmas cash and I can have both
I guess its just I was eager to upgrade my phone and I sold ny captivate to pay for my HTC Vivid and now I regret it and miss the phone. No complaints with the Vivid but just regret missing out on some of the best development for it. And HTC has left it for dead but our developers are really breaking ground on it. Chaoses new ics Rom will be a beast after everything is working and ioiwillio really is putting together an awesome honeycomb Rom. So I do want the new nexus but at the same time I don't know if I'm ready to sacrifice my flyer to get one
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I know one issue I have in parting with the flyer is quality and design vs a modern budget tablet. A year ago the flyer was a premium android tablet and one thing that threw me for a loop in a nexus was a review that said the speaker was really nice...emphasis on speaker not "speakers" like the flyer has. Pros and cons of the idea
Pros:
*more modern hardware
*lagfree
*Completely up to date
*software is handled by Google so no laggy sense ui and timely updates
Cons
*No pen support
*mono speaker
*build quality is good but HTC has the best
*No expandable Storage
*Front camera is in the wrong place
*No rear camera
*jelly beans 7 inch tablet ui is rubbish
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I think I could part with my flyer now in favor of one, or I could wait and have both! What's better than an android tablet? 2 android tablets!
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No pen support is what keeps me from buying any other device.
But if you don't use the pen, then yeah...I can see the upgrade being worth it.
Yeah nothing on the nexus tab is a deal breaker for me, I just am hesitant to give up the flyer so quickly not to mention I doubt I could get that much money out of it anyway
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I did just that.
I preordered the Nexus 7 16GB from Google and put my HTC Flyer, Blurex case, installed Zagg invisible shield, box, cables, and all papers one up on ebay.
If anyone is interested, it's up on ebay for $159 and BUY IT NOW $187 for all.
BTW Thanks for all in this forum who have helped me with various things along the way.
Peace,
Jeff
I did the same! I listed my Flyer late Wednesday night on Gumtree and someone took it off me for £150 at half four yesterday Very quick sale!
I couldn't care about the camera, microsd slot and pen.. I never really used them! So ordered the Nexus 8GB just, Was going to go for the 16GB but I only used ~2.5gb on my Flyer.
Can't wait for them to ship!
I'm with you there on that stuff doesn't matter. I have an sd card in mine only because I got sick of having to take my phone apart every time I wanted to flash a Rom through recovery. All my media is on the cloud. And the camera really is just a toy imo, there is no useful purpose for one on a tablet, and besides my HTC Vivid has a much nicer camera anyway, 8mp dual led flash. Really what's killing the nexus tab for me is the terrible jelly bean UI. I just found out today no landscape mode, wtf? I mean yes in apps and games, but the homescreen is portrait only like a phone! So that mean all next gen 7 inch android tablets are just going to be glorified e readers? I personally rarely ever use portrait, god google is clueless
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I'm with you there on that stuff doesn't matter. I have an sd card in mine only because I got sick of having to take my phone apart every time I wanted to flash a Rom through recovery. All my media is on the cloud. And the camera really is just a toy imo, there is no useful purpose for one on a tablet, and besides my HTC Vivid has a much nicer camera anyway, 8mp dual led flash. Really what's killing the nexus tab for me is the terrible jelly bean UI. I just found out today no landscape mode, wtf? I mean yes in apps and games, but the homescreen is portrait only like a phone! So that mean all next gen 7 inch android tablets are just going to be glorified e readers? I personally rarely ever use portrait, god google is clueless
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Haha! I prefer portrait mode actually! Plus, The phone UI is nicer on a 7 inch tablet.. I had an Archos 80 G9 before my Flyer and the tablet UI was nice and spaced out - On the Flyer it felt really cramped! Wish Google would release the case in the UK soon! Going to need one :L
I'd still buy one, and I still plan too actually, not a matter of if but when. Just don't see why its so hard to put the launcher in landscape auto rotate when 3rd party launchers have been doing this for years! I'll definitely be putting a custom launcher on mine
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You guys will have to keep me informed how you like it. I will say the rubberized back is a plus. The flyer is slippery. I've had it slide out of my hands a million times.
After watching a review of the nexus tab on youtube, yeah its hard to complain about the UI too much, beause it looks gorgeous and moves like "butter", even if it isn't exactly the most tablet optimized UI. I wonder what its going to do to other cheap tabs now such as the Nook Tablet, Kindle Fire, and GTab2. The GTab2 seemed like a steal at $250 2 months ago, but now it seems way over priced considering the same price gets you 2 more cores, a more up to date version of android, double the storage, and an HD screen. Google has set the standard now for cheap tabs. Look for an Apple lawsuit soon lol.
The storage is a no go for me
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Haha! Do you know if the stock ICS launcher on phones rotates? I know from the G9 the Tablet one definitely rotates, Just not used ICS on my phones properly
Ugh I hate the Flyer's aluminium build so much! I can't stand the soft feeling when it moves in your hand haha! Had the leather hardback on from day one then switched to the leather journal case for when I took the tablet outside and a gel case for indoors haha. The official leather journal is well overpriced, Wish I had've bought an unofficial one with a stand!
Can't wait until they start to ship! Mines coming from Dublin, Ireland which is only ~130 miles from where I live so it won't take long to arrive!
Really odd how the case isn't available in the UK yet though -
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It doesn't auto rotate, its pretty much the Galaxy Nexus Launcher with a larger grid. But oh well really, its android, and as people have said in other threads, who uses the stock launcher anyway? Nothing Apex or Nova can't fix
I always questioned the rear camera on tablets. I mean first of all its pointless, even a 7 inch tab is much to large to carry around as your digital camera, and the cameras they put on them are smartphone cameras anyway so its not something you want to carry around if your a serious photographer, and secondly its the most blatently obvious thing to get rid of when trying to bring the price down on a tablet! I mostly use my flyer's camera to irritate my wife, lol I have a sectional couch and I sit on the loveseat portion, and she sits on the couch, and I like to sneak and take picture of her to irritate her. She hears the camera sound and gets annoyed. And yep thats really what a camera is on a tab, just a toy.
Aw, Not a big deal anyway! Hey - I use the stock launcher on most devices LOL.
Yeah I never saw the point of the rear camera on the Flyer.. Used it once or twice, More a gimmick. Same can be said for the front facing camera! I used it twice, and it was to test Snapbooth, Nothing else! I don't video call or Skype so it's of no use to me!
With any luck the Nexus' screen is easier to see in sunlight than the Flyers' .. I couldn't see anything with the screen on 100%! I'm looking forward to the higher res screen.. The Flyer looks really pixelated when I look at my phone for long periods of time, And my phone isn't even that high res, 480*800 4" haha!
I'm really thinking about it now lol. My biggest complaint with honeycomb is the lag and i hate gingerbread because of ugly phone versions of gmail, YouTube, maps, gvoice, etc. My roommate's gtab2 is quick and responsive except for the ui which is kind of laggy. You don't get the honeycomb look with the nexus but you still get honeycomb style apps, and to some extent honeycomb is more made for larger tablets as those virtual keys are easy to bump when your playing games etc. I'm going to sleep on it. i might call up the used video game store and see how much they'd pay for a flyer, as i kinda wanna sell quick if i do it
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I'm really thinking about it now lol. My biggest complaint with honeycomb is the lag and i hate gingerbread because of ugly phone versions of gmail, YouTube, maps, gvoice, etc. My roommate's gtab2 is quick and responsive except for the ui which is kind of laggy. You don't get the honeycomb look with the nexus but you still get honeycomb style apps, and to some extent honeycomb is more made for larger tablets as those virtual keys are easy to bump when your playing games etc. I'm going to sleep on it. i might call up the used video game store and see how much they'd pay for a flyer, as i kinda wanna sell quick if i do it
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wait - you have a wife and a roommate?
oh nevermind that's really none of my business. please don't take this too seriously. I just find that to be odd and I'm just having a little fun.
God how I wish development wasn't dead for the view
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So,
I've read reviews and tech specs and on paper at least the flyer seems to outwit the galaxy tab, which is the only other real contender.
So as my sig says, I've had a desire for ages now and think its the best thing since latex! So I am heavily bias towards getting another HTC.
BUT .....................
With a lack of Dev interest, and still tentatively waiting on any kind of official HTC unlocking of bootloaders, is it still a better choice to go with than the well established dev community for the galaxy tab?
An a few questions for peeps already using the flyer, is it possible at all to do HDMI mirroring or at least HDMI video playback? An can you access the internal memory as a flash drive as you would with the desire?
Many thanks in advance.
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There is a Flyer versus Galaxy Tab 10.1 thread in this subforum, so you should check that out. Although the GT 10.1 is a much larger form factor, and running Honeycomb. So not quite the same comparison you are talking about, with the 1st gen Galaxy Tab's 7-inch form factor and existing developer community.
I too am a strong supporter of HTC (on my 3rd HTC phone), and that is one of the main reasons I got the Flyer. I haven't checked out what the Gingerbread update for the 1st gen Galaxy Tab is like, or custom ROMs. But the stock Flyer experience is much more polished than the GT stock Froyo ROM. Plus, the Flyer has higher CPU and memory specs.
I'm a bit concerned about developer interest as well. Hopefully, things will ramp up, the device is still very new. Not sure if its the locked bootloader, HTC's stronger protections against rooting on more recent products, or an increasingly crowded tablet market, that is slowing up developer interest. But I'm still keeping my fingers crossed . . .
Why not wait a couple of months for the 10" HTC tablet, the bigger brother of the Flyer?
7" tablets are for different use than the 10" devices, just like the difference between netbook and 15" laptop.
for HDMI you will need to purchase an additional cable http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=209996
I have bee fooling around with the Flyer since monday and I am extremely happy with it. The thre main uses are: reading while commuting - most time in Pulse/Reader, using the Notes and Email app in meetings at work and reading and media consumption back home.
The 7 inch form factor is real win for most uses except for couch surfing. Sitting the tablet on my lap I would not mind the extra realestate of the 10 inch tablet. Sense makes me pretty much forget I am not using Honeycomb specific apps.
I wouldn't mind the Flyer being a bit lighter.
Overall I give the Flyer a big thumbs up. And I still consider the flyer a novelty that will attract the developer crowd eventually.
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Overall I give the Flyer a big thumbs up. And I still consider the flyer a novelty that will attract the developer crowd eventually.
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I totally agree with you ! a 7" tablets is the best choice for mobility, and Flyer is the one!
I have been trying all the tablets, but at the end of the day, if you are on the move and need portability, the flyer is the way to go. If you are just couch surfing, then get a 10".
I have been using my flyer for everything from couch surfing, to taking notes in meetings. It works very well, and is very reliable. It's my favorite tablet, and a keeper.
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So,
I've read reviews and tech specs and on paper at least the flyer seems to outwit the galaxy tab, which is the only other real contender.
So as my sig says, I've had a desire for ages now and think its the best thing since latex! So I am heavily bias towards getting another HTC.
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One thing to consider is that the 7" Tab is not likely to see much updating from Samsung in the future, my guess is that in their eyes it's EOL. They have new machines to support.
However there is a strong dev community for it and they will likely make improvements for a long time. That being said, it may never make the jump to Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich.
The Flyer, being new, is just starting it's vendor support life cycle and they SAY it will be upgraded to at least Honeycomb (no firm date, but at least they are saying it will be).
If they do unlock the boot-loader, which would most likely happen during a major update I would think (keep it locked until the HC upgrade to make it easier on tech support maybe?), the Flyer may end up being a highly supported device, just because it's one of the few 7" machines out there.
I very much considered the Tab, even had it in my Amazon cart for a while before deciding that I wanted to buy the Flyer. Would have preferred to spend less, but I'll likely use it for a number of years so $500 vs $350 isn't much of a problem. I needed a 7" screen for portability and I've been very happy with it so far.
Several reasons for Flyer over GT 7. Better processor, Better Screen (Super LCD vs TFT), Sense, Pen integration (don't spend $80, get a Fujitsu one for $30.) It is flat out faster in use. Better Rear camera. Stronger case. Longer support life. Def worth the $150 difference.
I have a Flyer but it is going back. I've enjoyed it for a week now but it's not satisfying me 100%.
Coming from a Galaxy S phone with much better codec support out of the box, the Flyer is disappointing. At least there's Mobo player.
No way to Bluetooth tether since Android hates adhoc networks, annoying (even though the Transformer apparently does BT tether).
Very nice device and the form factor is nice, nearly perfect, but at $500 plus tax I expected a bit more satisfaction.
So far the only thing I am missing is the phone.
Is it possible to add the HTC Phone into the Flyer by an firmware upgrade ?
I also am considering the Flyer just waiting for a price drop or if I can save enough for it. Few questions however:
1. Does the flyer do hdmi mirroring or just video playback?
2. Are the games user friendly from onlive ?
3. What type of movies aren't playing well? I really don't need the highest quality movies as long as its decent quality I'm ok with that?
4. Also is the notes app well developed im an engineer student so the idea of taking notes during a class like dynamics or controls writing hints and drawing diagrams on slides
Sounds very appealing. How well would that notes app work if I'm constantly writing?
I was looking at the galaxy tab but it seems to lack external ports such as usb microsd slot and hdmi. I'm a big hdmi user so thar automatically cancels any tablet for me if I can't use hdmi mirroring.
So I'm also curious about the Ee pad memo and the webos touchpad. Does anyone know if the touchpad and eepad memo will have hdmi mirroring thru cable or will an external port be needed?
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Personally... if the Flyer was released @ the same time as the Desire HD I'd have picked it up in a heart beat.
But with Dual Core comming up....
I'd say wait till HTC nxt offering.
I recently bought the Flyer along with the Playbook and iPad 2. Having them together was the easiest way to compare for me. The Playbook killed the Flyer in all categories for me with the exception of app selection and quality. I literally only found 5 apps that I wanted to download. The Flyer performed pretty well with the exception of many FC. HTC Watch adds a cool way to purchase content. The cam and especially video recording was not nearly as good as the PB, but better than the iPad in that dept.
In the end I kept the iPad 2. For me it was the biggest bang for the same money. There's a crazy amount of high quality apps like Hulu, Netflix and tons of solid games. I use my tablets at home for web browsing and at work for watching videos and listening to podcasts on my breaks. The larger screen is much better for me, but there is something to be said for the portable nature of the smaller screen. If the price was lower on the Flyer and included the pen for the wifi only version I'd recommend it highly, but the pricing with the pen is seriously too high. Sense 3.0 is pretty fantastic, but reminds me of a bigger version of my Evo.
I'm an Android phone user/lover but I have yet to find an Android tablet that does it for me.
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I recently bought the Flyer along with the Playbook and iPad 2. Having them together was the easiest way to compare for me. The Playbook killed the Flyer in all categories for me with the exception of app selection and quality. I literally only found 5 apps that I wanted to download. The Flyer performed pretty well with the exception of many FC. HTC Watch adds a cool way to purchase content. The cam and especially video recording was not nearly as good as the PB, but better than the iPad in that dept.
In the end I kept the iPad 2. For me it was the biggest bang for the same money. There's a crazy amount of high quality apps like Hulu, Netflix and tons of solid games. I use my tablets at home for web browsing and at work for watching videos and listening to podcasts on my breaks. The larger screen is much better for me, but there is something to be said for the portable nature of the smaller screen. If the price was lower on the Flyer and included the pen for the wifi only version I'd recommend it highly, but the pricing with the pen is seriously too high. Sense 3.0 is pretty fantastic, but reminds me of a bigger version of my Evo.
I'm an Android phone user/lover but I have yet to find an Android tablet that does it for me.
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Actually, it's Sense 2.1, not 3.0.
I have now had the flyer for 4 days now and I owned every tablet on the market, and the Flyer is bar-none the best I have used.
I wouldn't sell this things for a $1000, I love the Flyer. Is very underrated in every way, plus the performance wipes other tablets *** thus far.
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I have now had the flyer for 4 days now and I owned every tablet on the market, and the Flyer is bar-none the best I have used.
I wouldn't sell this things for a $1000, I love the Flyer. Is very underrated in every way, plus the performance wipes other tablets *** thus far.
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Only if it had the phone dialer it couldn't be any perfecter....
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Actually, it's Sense 2.1, not 3.0.
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Sense 3.0 has the "ring" multi-function lock screen, HTC Trace on the keyboard, and new weather app.
Or does the Flyer have Sense 2.1 with some 3.0 features?
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I recently bought the Flyer along with the Playbook and iPad 2. Having them together was the easiest way to compare for me. The Playbook killed the Flyer in all categories for me with the exception of app selection and quality. I literally only found 5 apps that I wanted to download. The Flyer performed pretty well with the exception of many FC. HTC Watch adds a cool way to purchase content. The cam and especially video recording was not nearly as good as the PB, but better than the iPad in that dept.
In the end I kept the iPad 2. For me it was the biggest bang for the same money. There's a crazy amount of high quality apps like Hulu, Netflix and tons of solid games. I use my tablets at home for web browsing and at work for watching videos and listening to podcasts on my breaks. The larger screen is much better for me, but there is something to be said for the portable nature of the smaller screen. If the price was lower on the Flyer and included the pen for the wifi only version I'd recommend it highly, but the pricing with the pen is seriously too high. Sense 3.0 is pretty fantastic, but reminds me of a bigger version of my Evo.
I'm an Android phone user/lover but I have yet to find an Android tablet that does it for me.
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sorry but the playbook can't touch the Flyer, everything about the playbook is lame. Also the Flyer out performers the playbook as the Flyer is much snappier and faster even On a single core.
compared my flyer to a co-workers playbook today.
A little off topic but I didn't want to create a new thread....will this sub-forum be used for the EVO View 4G when it's released? It's the same tablet but with wimax.
I was wondering if there any users with the Flyer/View that also have the galaxy tab that can give us a good comparison review. I have been looking on google at the few reviews that are out there and they are all over the place. A couple of the reviews mention the flyer getting sluggish when running several apps. All of the reviews seem to have been done using sense 2.1. I didn't see any type of performance review using a different launcher on the flyer like ADW EX. Really like how the flyer looked compared to the galaxy tab but I was wondering if it was worth giving up root access and all the custom rom's/themes/hacks/tweaks that are available for the galaxy tab.
Yes i've used the galaxy tab for 6 months before i bought the flyer.I really liked the tab but the flyer is much faster en the touchscreen is way better i think.Also the sense launcher on the flyer is great!On my tab i used launcher pro and i've tried it on my flyer but sense is better on the flyer.I do not have any problems running several apps at the same time.It always works flawlessly!On the tab when i opened the photogallery it took a while to load the photos,on the flyer you see the photos within 3 seconds or so.I loved the tab but the flyer is better.
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Yes i've used the galaxy tab for 6 months before i bought the flyer.I really liked the tab but the flyer is much faster en the touchscreen is way better i think.Also the sense launcher on the flyer is great!On my tab i used launcher pro and i've tried it on my flyer but sense is better on the flyer.I do not have any problems running several apps at the same time.It always works flawlessly!On the tab when i opened the photogallery it took a while to load the photos,on the flyer you see the photos within 3 seconds or so.I loved the tab but the flyer is better.
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Also obvious the Flyer has a Wacom digitiser. This also means you have a Notes, Office and PDF app that can make use of stylus input.
I thought the battery life of the Flyer was better, but with the latest Tab update the battery life has improved. Finally, I prefer the HTC Sense UI over the Samsung overlay over Android.
I've had my Evo View for a week and it feels like the next generation of Galaxy Tab. More fits on the screen, its faster and has much more memory than the Tab.
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Galaxy tab is light but feels cheap. Flyer is a little heavey and difficult to hold unless I put it in a case. Overall, I like Flyer better.
i dont have the samsung Galaxy but I try it at shop (BQ Da vinci too) and I like both. Money, money, money...
But finally, I decide buy the Flyer... and at the moment im really happy for it.
The flyer is really expensive but is a great product : D: D: D
I also have both the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7/3G and the HTC Evo View 4g...
Given that 7 months is considered an eternity in today's rapidly advancing gadget world, it goes without saying that the HTC Evo View is a considerably superior tablet device when compared to the Galaxy Tab 7.
Little things that always annoyed me about my Galaxy Tab 7, like the longish boot times and somewhat sluggish screen transitions (I'm using Launcher Pro+ on both), are completely rectified on my Evo View.
Personally, I have no interest in HTC's Sense homescreen replacement (it waste too much screen real-estate), but I absolutely prefer the work they've done on the associated apps to make them much more tablet-friendly, all of of which work so well that I actually prefer them to those on my Honeycomb-based Motorola Xoom or Asus Transformer, and certainly over what Samsung did on the Galaxy Tab 7.
As far as concerns of 'sluggishness' on the Evo View, I have yet to experience any, and I've had the device since the day it went on sale, using it for hours each day.
Additionally, I initially tried several different HS replacements when I bought my Evo View (including ADW EX. Go Launcher, et al) and found Launcher Pro+ to offer the best compromise between performance and features.
All things considered, the HTC Evo View is easily the best 7 inch tablet currently on the market, with great build-quality, exceptional ergonomics, a speedy processor, expertly developed tablet-centric apps, and surprisingly good battery life - It's a winner!
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Also obvious the Flyer has a Wacom digitiser. This also means you have a Notes, Office and PDF app that can make use of stylus input.
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The Flyer uses the N-trig digitizer -- some people like the N-trig, some really hate it.
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The Flyer uses the N-trig digitizer -- some people like the N-trig, some really hate it.
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It truly is a LOVE/HATE relationship. N-Trig is nowhere near as accurate or smooth as Wacom, but the price and battery savings weigh in its favor. If I am slow and steady with the pen and THINK about what I am writing, the N-Trig is acceptable. If I hurry, like trying to take notes during a telephone conversation, it skips letters, vectors, and is generally a PITA. That's when I really miss my HP 2740p convertible Tablet PC with Wacom.
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I was wondering if there any users with the Flyer/View that also have the galaxy tab that can give us a good comparison review. I have been looking on google at the few reviews that are out there and they are all over the place. A couple of the reviews mention the flyer getting sluggish when running several apps. All of the reviews seem to have been done using sense 2.1. I didn't see any type of performance review using a different launcher on the flyer like ADW EX. Really like how the flyer looked compared to the galaxy tab but I was wondering if it was worth giving up root access and all the custom rom's/themes/hacks/tweaks that are available for the galaxy tab.
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I like them both. In fact, I had sold my original Tab and bought a new one, which I received today. It was rooted and flashed as soon as I could download the files needed. The Flyer has a faster processor, but my Tab runs just as fast running Overcome's Gingerbread OC'd to 1.4. I would honestly give the nod to the Tab at this moment because it is leaps and bounds beyond the Flyer on the development side. I am happy with the Flyer as it is, but once there is a HC port or official release, it will be the perfect tablet. The 7" form factor is the absolute best. For what it is worth, the Tab OC'd to 1.4 hits right around 2100 on the Quadrant scores and the Flyer right around 1900. Like I said, for what it is worth.
Netflix works on Tab but not on the Flyer.
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I like them both. In fact, I had sold my original Tab and bought a new one, which I received today. It was rooted and flashed as soon as I could download the files needed. The Flyer has a faster processor, but my Tab runs just as fast running Overcome's Gingerbread OC'd to 1.4. I would honestly give the nod to the Tab at this moment because it is leaps and bounds beyond the Flyer on the development side. I am happy with the Flyer as it is, but once there is a HC port or official release, it will be the perfect tablet. The 7" form factor is the absolute best. For what it is worth, the Tab OC'd to 1.4 hits right around 2100 on the Quadrant scores and the Flyer right around 1900. Like I said, for what it is worth.
Netflix works on Tab but not on the Flyer.
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In addition to my above post:
The Tab plays my ripped blu-rays (1080/mp4) perfectly fine and smooth! I get an error on the Flyer with the same micro sd card and the same movie files about the file type not being supported.
I like the keyboard on the Flyer more from an auto-correct standpoint. Typing is equally good on both otherwise.
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Thanks for all of the feedback. I was very wary of anything samsung after an experience with a bad Epic. But I was willing to get the galaxy tab. I got the HTC View instead. So far I am liking it but I gotta say that I am tempted to return it and get the tab instead. I am sorely missing being rooted.
ElAguila said:
Thanks for all of the feedback. I was very wary of anything samsung after an experience with a bad Epic. But I was willing to get the galaxy tab. I got the HTC View instead. So far I am liking it but I gotta say that I am tempted to return it and get the tab instead. I am sorely missing being rooted.
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Since you already have the View, jump into the Marketplace and find yourself a decently priced Tab. I do find myself using the Tab a lot more. Just last night I flashed the newest version of Overcome.
I am not holding my breath, but as I had stated, when the Flyer gets HC, it will be perfect!
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I thought the question would've been posed already. To be honest i'm thinking the GS2 will be faster than the Galaxy Nexus with ICS. What do you owners of the GS2 think? Anyone jumping ship?
Doesn't the galaxy nexus have hardware acceleration built into the UI?
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I weighed this decision heavily for a few days before getting my SGS2.
The Nexus has a weaker GPU, no MicroSD slot, and a 720p screen, but it's a pentile screen. More info on that that means: http://www.tested.com/news/pentile-vs-real-stripe-amoled-displays-whats-different/1868/
It will also likely cost more, even on contract, but that's my speculation.
Ultimately, I wasn't willing to lose storage expansion and GPU power to gain higher resolution. The usable area of the screen isn't bigger because of the onscreen home keys.
Plus, we have MikeyMike01's ROM here.
SGS2, like the Captivate before it, just seems like the sweet spot.
Robstunner the galaxy nexus has hardware acceleration with ics. As much as the gn will be awesome besides the larger qhd screen I am probably going to stuck with the sgs2 as the specs compared to the gn is not that much different to warrant the change over. Just my opinion.
Hth,
Charlie
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5000/galaxy-nexus-pentile-discussion-confirmed
Read that about the pixel per inch controversy.
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Yea I'm sticking with my sgs2...
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I'm glad to see everyone is excited about their GS2. You guys are making my decision easy. I have a Sensation and i'm on tmobile but I'm going to terminate early. Thank God for the prorating of the early termination
GN is kinda meh... This nexus is blah this time around. 720p screen is nice but me personally, if i need a screen to watch something, I'll watch it on my 52" 1080p lcd, thank you.
I'll stay with my "superphone" the sgs2.
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Not for Galaxy nexus. IPHONE 5/6 maybe but have to be at least 4.3" screen.
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I'm sorry but someone would honestly have to pay me to get an iPhone and to keep it. I just can't follow the sheep in front of me. CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE....
"Dare to be different"
The GS2 has sold 10 million units. Guess who will have the most ROMs....
Ill get it if its made of metal and has a nicely contoured back. As much as I like this phone I hate Samsung plastic and flat backs. Imo my inspire was perfect ergonomically
Bxsteez said:
I'm sorry but someone would honestly have to pay me to get an iPhone and to keep it. I just can't follow the sheep in front of me. CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE CUSTOMIZE....
"Dare to be different"
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*Takes in a long breath*
You can customize the look and feel of an iPhone heavily and IMO it is hands down the best mobile device ever invented, in fact it was so successful that it spawned the iPod touch and the iPad. all 3 are essentially the same device and apple knows this and has forced/convinced consumers the world over that they need these products in their lives, some people own all 3 in fact, as well as other apple products. *I myself am one of them.*
For me I see android as a great mobile platform with a ton of tweaking and customizing fun to be had and enjoyed. The iPhone excels at music/media playback and has an amazing battery. The device is dependable and refined and will never let you down. Android phones however. *Doesn't matter which....* are usually faster over all performers and have more settings and tweaks than iPhone's do natively.
I had a G1, then went to an iPhone 3GS, then the iPhone 4. I was all ready to get an iphone 5 as I had gotten an iPad2 and was bored with having the same device twice and wanted something different/better.
Then I saw the 4s and was severely disappointed. I got a Galaxy S II because it had a better camera than my iPhone 4. A larger Screen, upgradeable/removable storage, a removable battery, and a faster cpu/gpu with more ram.
I love apple products. They just work, and work well. They're very reliable, and they do have a high buy-in price. However I personally, as do many other users feel its worth it.
I love everything about my G S II, and I think android is a solid and ever evolving mobile platform/OS. I want to see it succeed as I envision it doing so. Although I hate the music app on this phone and it has me missing my iPod, its not enough to take away from how amazing the S II is.
dont forget the 5mp cam too
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You can customize the look and feel of an iPhone heavily and IMO it is hands down the best mobile device ever invented, in fact it was so successful that it spawned the iPod touch and the iPad. all 3 are essentially the same device and apple knows this and has forced/convinced consumers the world over that they need these products in their lives, some people own all 3 in fact, as well as other apple products. *I myself am one of them.*
For me I see android as a great mobile platform with a ton of tweaking and customizing fun to be had and enjoyed. The iPhone excels at music/media playback and has an amazing battery. The device is dependable and refined and will never let you down. Android phones however. *Doesn't matter which....* are usually faster over all performers and have more settings and tweaks than iPhone's do natively.
I had a G1, then went to an iPhone 3GS, then the iPhone 4. I was all ready to get an iphone 5 as I had gotten an iPad2 and was bored with having the same device twice and wanted something different/better.
Then I saw the 4s and was severely disappointed. I got a Galaxy S II because it had a better camera than my iPhone 4. A larger Screen, upgradeable/removable storage, a removable battery, and a faster cpu/gpu with more ram.
I love apple products. They just work, and work well. They're very reliable, and they do have a high buy-in price. However I personally, as do many other users feel its worth it.
I love everything about my G S II, and I think android is a solid and ever evolving mobile platform/OS. I want to see it succeed as I envision it doing so. Although I hate the music app on this phone and it has me missing my iPod, its not enough to take away from how amazing the S II is.
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I'm going to have to disagree on all accounts. iOS is NOT heavily customizable and it is far from the best device created. I will agree that it is the easiest phone to use but that is about it.
Changing wallpaper is not my idea of customization. I know you can hack the crap out of the iphone and do a bunch of stuff after a jailbreak but its no android phone. I don't agree that iphone excels at music/media playback and that is the iPhone not third party applications. Yea you can sync with itunes (which is crap) and your videos are converted and transferred automatically, which again leads to it being the simipliest device, but that does not make it a multimedia powerhouse. Android devices come with HDMI out (not the SGS2).
Basically the iPhone has its place but its not with techies. Its a great "dumb" phone but not the best and it may never be. That is up to Apple.
I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... I will not get into an iOS vs android rant ... okay, that's better
I agree the music implementation in android is great. I like what Samsung has done with the player controls on the lock screen and notification shade. I use Pandora mostly, and its the same on both. I always felt one of the best commercials for android would have been: "If you don't have an iPhone, you don't have iTunes ... you're welcome." I was excited to stop the weekly 80MB iTunes updates when I got my Captivate. Joyous beyond measure I could drag and drop my music and movies myself. Plus, I can share everything I have with others without having to get floola, or iTunes, just send it or plug in.
But, I have never purchased an iProduct before or since my iPhone. I was a Zune user, and loved letting my iPod owning friends play with it, waiting for them to drop their jaw and comment on built in FM, WiFi, twice the screen size, and a user interface that a newbie can use. When I used their ipods I always gave up trying to navigate those menus.
Back to the task at hand ... yes Galaxy Nexus is a hardware dissapointment. I liken it to the iPhone 4S "upgrade" that took 16 months to come out. Like the iPhone event was really about Siri, the Nexus event was really about ICS. I think we'll have all the ICS goodness soon.
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To each their own I guess... just voicing my opinion. Android is a stronger platform than iOS with more functionality and tweakability, but iOS does work easier and in some places better I think. I'm not hating on one or the other, just stating my opinion. I really wish the music app in android was handled better. I miss my genius playlist abilities and smart shuffle.
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Why switch to a new phone which only has a 5MP camera compared to
our phone which has an 8MP camera?
Also why would it be an advantage to give up our external sdcard slot?
Under the hood both have just about the same "horse power" with
Dual-core 1.2 GHz processors and an excellent GPU chipset.
Both having 1GB of ram as well.
Also you will find that even though the Samsung Galaxy Nexus has higher
resolution and a larger screen than our SGS2 has, if you put the two side
by side our Samsung SGS2 has noticeably larger default text fonts making
it by far easier to read.
I know we can change the text font sizes, however most if not all the apps
and games available for our phones are designed to use the default fonts
not only performance, but also for the very best appearance that's possible.
Not only is the text larger on our phones but anything and everything on the
screen is larger.
As far as game play goes, most games are designed to look and work best in a
more standardized resolution like our phones have.
Just my personal opinion
I thought the topic was gn vs gs2? Where is apple in there?
I was drooling watching the nexus event but the truth is my gs2 should run ics without issue and hopefully we aren't waiting too long for official ics update.
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Misterjunky said:
Why switch to a new phone which only has a 5MP camera compared to our phone which has an 8MP camera?
Also why would it be an advantage to give up our external sdcard slot?
Under the hood both have just about the same "horse power" with
Dual-core 1.2 GHz processors and an excellent GPU chipset.
Both having 1GB of ram as well.
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after seeing the unveiling, these were the exact things i was thinking of... a "worse" camera, and the same specs under the hood... pretty underwhelming if you ask me.
Good day all. I'm a Best Buy Silver member and have 45 day returns on merchandise. Anyways I picked up the Flyer a week ago and compared to the other tabs I have owned or own (Asus, Acer A500 and A100, HP Touchpad) this is the best in terms of overall functions. Another reason why I say that is because 10 inch tabs are over-the-top; especially if they don't have any ports (that's why I kept the Acer A500). I find 7-9 inchers are more usable. This Flyer is smooth and functions properly unlike most of the Honeycomb tabs. My only concern is will HTC update this beautiful beast? So I'm posing the question to the community of whether to ditch the Flyer or wait it out. Also any input or thoughts about the Samsung 7.0 Plus and if its worth the extra $100 are appreciated
I wish HTC would say something offical and it will make my decision clear.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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The Sammy 7plus will have a TFT LCD screen (like Acer A100) not the Super AMOLED or IPS. That should give a pretty poor viewing angle, not up to Sams usual standards and thus much cheaper to build. On the other hand, Sammy has been promising lots of software updates lately.
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Yea this tablet game is crazy. Sometimes I wish I would have been simple and gotten an iPad. Android is getting ridiculous. Anyways the inferred remote, updates, and Samsung usually has a decent amount of accessories is what's keeping me interested. I just have a bad feeling that the flyer is dead.
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its maddening. HTC built an almost perfect tablet in the FLyer and then overpriced it at introduction and has failed to support it properly now. Makes me wonder if they are exiting the tablet market.
I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I too am starting to think HTC is calling it quits. Xoom 2 8.2inch where art thou. I would skip the samsung and wait for that. Much like the original xoom it will be nexus like and will get the most recent updates straight from Google. I miss my original xoom but it was just too darn large.
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I think the Xoom 2 is a 8.2. I perfer the 7 inch, because I played with the Samsung 8 inch but it is tad big. I'm looking for something I can whip out in public and not look ridiculous. I think the Xoom will cost $545 though, didn't they learn anything?
http://androidcommunity.com/8-inch-...101/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
Tx
chimp
chimpsnest said:
Ack, I'm conflicted on where to jump into the tablet market. Granted an IPad would play VERY nicely w/my work MacBook & make life a bit easier, HOWEVER, it's large ~sigh~
Looked at the Xoom the other day and, yeah, too big to tote around comfortably so I started leaning toward the Flyer (I'm a huge HTC fan, love rooting my TBolt & Eris prior to that) but it seems like a lot of owners feel disappointed in HTC's (lack of) support for the device.
Maybe they'll go on a sub $200 fire sale if they announce 'no more'
I'm not sure what to get - but I do know that I want the ability to add storage, ie SD, etc., probably want a 7-8" screen with 9-10" being too large and I'd like it to have a good developer base behind it so I can root away and stay the flash addict that I am. Oh and I'd like the screen to be kind on the eyes for book reading & readable outdoors (so that means I need the AMOLED screen I believe?). I also like the $300 price point of this.
What else are you guys using besides the Flyer?
Tx
chimp
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Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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qhinton said:
Acer A500 and Nexus S. I do agree the 10 inch ones are to large for daily use especially in public. At they are cool bit I need something portable.
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Thank you, but the Nexus S is a phone, isn't it? And, yeah the 10" tab is going to be too large.
I'll have to get to Best Buy and see if they at least have an HTC Flyer on display that I can fiddle with.
I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
mikejwatkins said:
I am waiting for the day that Asus releases a 7 inch tablet. If they ever do, I will buy it and never look back. They release products that have top notch hardware and the best software and update support in my opinion. If only the transformer or transformer prime were a bit smaller, then they would be perfect for what I want.
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They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
qhinton said:
They are ok. I have owned 2 Transformers and the build quality was not there. From the hollow back, light bleed, and cracking speakers. That's how I ended up with the Acer is was just solid.
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Yeah I had the Acer A100 for a couple of months. Too bad they skimped so much on the hardware. Terrible display, terrible microphone, poor battery life. The software was fine.
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TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
Maedhros said:
TBH... The Flyer is slow compared to the new Dual Core tablets. however... for 300$ + the added pen functionality it's worth it.
My screen also has a yellow tint... Is that the same as every1 Else's?
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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The screen should not be yellow.
Actually at 1.5ghz the flyer is faster in most cases than any tablet out there. Dual core doesn't get you more usable speed in almost every case because few if any apps are designed in a way that can make use of the dual cores and Android only lets one app be foreground at a time. So most of the time a dual core is only using one and its slower than the Flyer.
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You are right. I looked at some benchmark test it test better then every HC tab except te Samsung 10.1
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Black Friday will probably yield some good deals, so I'm at least hanging tight for that pricing to come out before jumping on anything - and I think I'm going to sell my Ipod Touch, latest gen, NEVER use it.
Ahhh, eBay (or friends on FB, lol)
I have the flyer and I love it! It's built super solid, its very fast, and I love how it scales apps in contrast to how to Galaxy tab did. On a 7" device I would end up using more phone apps then tablet apps anyway, so I don't care about honeycomb. I love my Flyer! The only thing that may replace it is the Galaxy Note...but then again I may still keep it since its really not worth it to only get $200 used for it. Hell, I'd keep it for that just to lend out or use it as a dedicated clock!
I used to be a active user here on XDA when Wondows mobile was the "cool" Mobile OS. Then I bought a iPod Touch when my father bought into the iPhone 3G. I got sucked into Apple with the 3GS, then the 4. I bought a 64gb 3g iPad when it came out, as well...but then I bought a ATT 3g Galaxy Tab refurbished just to try out android....and fell in love.(it made me feel like I used to with windows mobile...the customization) I kept the TAB for a few months then decided to sell both my iPad and my Tab and buy a iPad wifi for cheap, and a Flyer. I canceled my contract and used my unlimited ipad SIM in my Jailbroken iPhone 4....Loving life($30 a month is my only phone bill!)! That iPhone may be downgraded to a mp3 player though....since I am eye balling the Galaxy Note now.
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I'm trying to make pretty much the same decision. I would rather not be left without an update to ICS. Other than that, the Flyer is looking pretty good. I like the design of it over the Galaxy Tab (though its design isn't horrible either), and it certainly felt snappy enough during my brief use of it in the store. The Tab is $100 more, and I doubt it will drop in the near future (i.e. before the end of the year), since it's a brand new product and Samsung would have a bunch of pissed off early-adopters on their hands. The Flyer, on the other hand, stands to drop in price again, since it's relatively old.
I was also considering the original Galaxy Tab because of the GSM capabilities (would be nice to throw in a pre-paid SIM card just in case), but Samsung failed to include it in the list of devices they're going to upgrade to ICS, and it felt just a tiny bit slow in the store, at least compared to the Flyer.
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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I don't think the Plus will drop in price either. The OG TAB is still. 400
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The WiFi version is $300 on Amazon. But yes, the GSM one that I want is still pretty pricey. If I got the original Tab, though, I'd just pick it up from eBay or the forums or something. Or, maybe it will be on sale during Black Friday, since any retailers that still have them need to clear their inventory to make room for the Plus.
This is a hard decision, to be honest. After doing some more research on the Flyer, it seems that the easiest one to acquire in the States (the WiFi one from Best Buy), is also the one that throws up hurdles for modders, such as the inability to go back to stock from a custom ROM.
Now I'm kind of back at square one, debating between the original Tab, the Tab Plus, the Flyer, the IdeaPad A1, and pending more details and reviews, the Huawei MediaPad.
Hello,
How are you?
I decided I'd share my story and give my insights about the Nexus 10. First a little background...
I have been an OSX user for some years. From Macbook, to Macbook Pro, to iMac, I have long ditched windows for my personal computing needs.
In the gadget front, I have always been an android user. Despite having thought about getting an iPad on some occasions, or even an iPhone, I never actually pulled the trigger.
Since my first smartphone, I have always used android phones, from 2.1, to froyo, to Ginger Bread, ICS and now Jelly bean.
After having several phones I settled for the galaxy nexus. I really like Google Web Services and the way they all just work with android and sync flawlessly.
I also love the Nexus pure android and timely updates.
Because I was so happy with my phone, when the nexus 7 came out, I bought a 16gb wifi unit. It was not my first android tablet. About a year ago I bought an HTC Flyer that a few months later I gave to my wife. At the time I had a Galaxy note and didn't use the tablet that much... But anyway...
I liked the Nexus 7. It is fast, good size, good portability. The device is not ideal for web browsing, but because of it's screen size, it is great to use phone apps to do things, like ebay app, paypal app, tapatalk, and such...
Then, after the confusion of the 13 November nexus 4 and nexus 10 launches, I ended up not getting any. Last week, I was finally able to order a Nexus 10 from the playstore and it was delivered this monday morning...
Unboxed it:
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Beautiful device. Great specs. It was light, well built and with a good feel.
Loved the screen... Beautiful piece of kit.
The front facing speakers were great...
It ran fast as hell... Synced everything with my nexus 7 and galaxy nexus beautifully!
It was a dream of a device... Until I actually started using it...
There were not too many apps for the bigger and higher res screen...
But that is ok. It is not like I use apps for facebook, ebay or forums on my laptop or desktop... I just use the web browser...
So, went and used it on the nexus 10... And that was the disappointment...
The 16:10 screen which becomes 16:9 when in use thanks to the soft buttons is horrible.
Text is crisp as hell, and I see no pixels, but I also see no content...
The tablet is just to short in height to use in landscape mode. I have to scroll and scroll and scroll to use any site... The way the sites scale on chrome, even fully zoomed out, just don't allow enough content on screen...
So, portrait, no problem...
Well, terrible...
It felt like holding a wooden board... The tablet is just too long and becomes too top heavy to use comfortably in portrait... Also, because the screen is narrow, the web sites don't look natural...
After trying to like the Nexus 10, I just couldn't...
Ended up selling it yesterday. Thanks to the high demand and low supply, I still made a tiny profit with it.
And today I ordered an Ipad 4.
I just realised that at the end of the day, it is not specs, or GPU or CPU or Ram or PPI that make a device...
When a company thinks about usability and ergonomics of a device, that just shows in the way it becomes natural and comfortable to use said device.
I just didn't find the Nexus 10 comfortable or natural for what I wanted to use it for, and that was web browsing mainly.
Maybe that will change in the future when android gets really multi tasking with resizable windows. Thanks maybe the 16:10 will be a plus.
But in the current state of tablet operating systems, for me the 4:3 is more natural and better.
So, this is my experience. I must thought I'd share.
At the end of the day this is just my impressions and my opinions and my feelings towards tablets. I am not an apple fanboy or android fanboy. I am a big nerd and a fan of technology.
It is how you feel about what you use and how what you use gets what you need done that matters. In the end of the day, tablets, phones, laptops, are either tools or toys or a bit of both, but they are not what's most important.
Best regards.
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If you're looking for an Android device with a 4:3 aspect ratio, consider buying a Nook HD+. It's probably the lightest small tablet around, and hopefully they'll port CM to it soon.
Well having a tablet, you need buttons. Most go with onscreen buttons, otherwise those cheap brands with buttons that break in a couple clicks.
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I just don't see this topic as being of any use to the community. This adds nothing. If you don't like it fine, return it sell it. But creating a topic? I never understood this other then trying tto get attention.
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Too each their own I suppose. To me the aspect ratio seems like a silly reason to sell it. I too dislike the wasted real-estate of the nav buttons, but with Android you have the choice to get rid of them.
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I just don't see this topic as being of any use to the community. This adds nothing. If you don't like it fine, return it sell it. But creating a topic? I never understood this other then trying tto get attention.
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Are reviews by tech sites useful? Are unboxing pictures and videos useful?
That is always debatable.
As is the usefulness of my topic. It might not be useful to you, it might me to someone else.
I respect that.
This is just my user reviews as someone you bought the device and had a user experience and an impression about it.
Best regards.
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That is funny...
I an called an iTroll, a simple troll, and invited to get out of here with my ipad...
But yet I think I wrote nothing offensive or provocative.
Yet, in here seems android has fanboys like apple is said to have...
People you are narrow minded and don't have tolerance to different opinions from their own.
I am not an apple fanboy, nor an android fanboy.
I own an imac, a lenovo windows laptop, a nexus 7 and a galaxy nexus. If I could afford it I would also have a Lumia 920, a surface tablet, a Macbook retina, and so on.
Because I like technology and I like to try out technology to find the one that suits me best.
I don't need to buy and sell nexus 10s to make a living... If I needed, I would not have bought one, but 20...
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The iPad is terrible for viewing media with black bars on the top and bottom of the screen.
It is also terrible for listening to music with a mono back-facing speaker compared to the front facing stereo on the Nexus 10.
Web sites with a lot of wide detail can be viewed on the Nexus 10 in landscape without zooming.
Web sites with little wide detail can be viewed in portait allowing more to be seen without scrolling.
So the Nexus 10 can be used in which ever way is best for Web sites.
Apple have already realised how much better the 16:9 format is and changed the iPhone 5 and it won't be long before the iPad follows too.
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There were not too many apps for the bigger and higher res screen...
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I imagine this will change in time, but currently, there isn't too much available.
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So, went and used it on the nexus 10... And that was the disappointment...
The 16:10 screen which becomes 16:9 when in use thanks to the soft buttons is horrible.
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On stock, this is a slight problem. On a custom ROM though, can just expand desktop and hide both bars for the full display.
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It felt like holding a wooden board... The tablet is just too long and becomes too top heavy to use comfortably in portrait... Also, because the screen is narrow, the web sites don't look natural...
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I do agree, not a real fan of using portrait mode on the Nexus 10.
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But yet I think I wrote nothing offensive or provocative.
Yet, in here seems android has fanboys like apple is said to have...
People you are narrow minded and don't have tolerance to different opinions from their own.
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I kind of agree, I actually found your post pretty pleasing to read; nothing deserving of a "iTroll" or any other harsh words...
He is a yellow journalist who got paid to do negative campaign. He dont like change and what he meant is that he is comfortable with the vga screen rather than using the hd because he likes it that way. Well enough its just you who like the outdated 4:3. As far as full screen scaled apps are not there. You have to wait a little for that the full hd screens just came out. Devs need time to scale theur apps. U didnt like the form factor well then stick with ur nexus 7. 10 inch is for those who are replacing their PC with a tablet.
In the end not every device is for everyone. Ppl with money just buy everything thinkingit will be productive. Next time consider ur use and then buy a device.
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He is a yellow journalist who got paid to do negative campaign. He dont like change and what he meant is that he is comfortable with the vga screen rather than using the hd because he likes it that way.
Well enough its just you who like the outdated 4:3. As far as full screen scaled apps are not there.
You have to wait a little for that the full hd screens just came out. Devs need time to scale theur apps.
10 inch is for those who are replacing their PC with a tablet.
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FYI - HD is anything over 720p (or 1080p depending on what you think), the ipad 4 isn't VGA. oh. and VGA is not a quality of screen, it's an output method, that can output more than 1080p funnily enough. (ok, lets assume that you mean 640x480 anyways, but the ipad still isn't that)
i find that saying 4:3 is outdated is a little silly, as it does allow you to use it in multiple orientations more easily than a 16:10 (but yeah, 16:10 is nice too for other reasons)
you can't replace a PC with a tablet. (well, not completely)
I don't get people complaining of landscape mode for web browsing. I have yet to own a tablet and can't wait to use the screen size in landscape mode for web browsing, it is going to be a dream.
But this is coming from a guy who never owned a tablet and browses the web on a 4" Ipod 5 in landscape mode.
I am looking forward to the aspect ratio of this tablet. How big do you need?
I just got my nexus 10. Which Google delayed shipping to me because they ran out of stock on the 8 GB phone (mind you I ordered on day 1 too) oh and they put a bumper in lieu of my actual phone and Google csr tier II is terrible. So not only did I have to wait 2 weeks to get my tablet which they still had plenty of stock they ************ forgot the phone which caused the delay in the first place. †************* great.
So now onto my experience with the tablet. It doesn't feel as smooth as the nexus 4. Video playback is amazing though. The text is not as smooth or crops as compared to the iPad 3 in my house. The book readers are terrible ... I am sorry but iBooks is actually much easier to use and in a twist of irony you can also use manually place your own ebooks into I books but you can't with Google's default reader. I also hate this keyboard which I plan to change.
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FYI - HD is anything over 720p (or 1080p depending on what you think), the ipad 4 isn't VGA. oh. and VGA is not a quality of screen, it's an output method, that can output more than 1080p funnily enough. (ok, lets assume that you mean 640x480 anyways, but the ipad still isn't that)
i find that saying 4:3 is outdated is a little silly, as it does allow you to use it in multiple orientations more easily than a 16:10 (but yeah, 16:10 is nice too for other reasons)
you can't replace a PC with a tablet. (well, not completely)
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lol yes VGA stands for Video Graphics Adapter... i think a fair statement would be for working 4:3 is preferred and when playing 16:10 ... keep in mind tho it wasnt so long ago ALL tvs were 4:3 and now its the opposite most tvs are 16:9 etc.. this is off topic but when i play css on my 52" tv i have to play it in 4:3 ( 640x480 ) because the orientation gets out of whack so to speak if i go to 1600x1200 yeah its time for an HDMI video card. but anyways... the reason i replied was the last statement it made me think about it since i have a tablet and a wireless keyboard and mouse to go with it... to use them i cannot be charging at the same time so i guess you are right portability wise... nice thought tho. if i could get a good news reader on it ( dont see any reason why not just havent looked into it yet) and use my powered hub so the hdd, keyboard, and mouse dont kill the battery on the N7 i cannot see why not ? as far as flash games i am kind of tired of those anyways.. and to replace CSS all i need is a good FPS. i already found a great one ( free) that showcases what the GPU is capable of. just need to get it working with the wiimote and im good.
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FYI - HD is anything over 720p (or 1080p depending on what you think), the ipad 4 isn't VGA. oh. and VGA is not a quality of screen, it's an output method, that can output more than 1080p funnily enough. (ok, lets assume that you mean 640x480 anyways, but the ipad still isn't that)
i find that saying 4:3 is outdated is a little silly, as it does allow you to use it in multiple orientations more easily than a 16:10 (but yeah, 16:10 is nice too for other reasons)
you can't replace a PC with a tablet. (well, not completely)
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Mr. I never expected that ur so dumb that u wont get the humor out of the vga thing. Plus vga never support more than 720 p.
Ur criticizing because u are among those who can bear change. Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority now dont say that u use a visual studio or other compilers for programming or maya and other graphic work. For that sort defintely a tablet is useless.
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the1onewolf said:
I also hate this keyboard which I plan to change.
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Are you joking about the keyboard? iOS keyboard is a POS with letters that always show in upper case even when caps lock is off. They place language setting where it's easily changed by accident instead of properly separating it in settings menu. It doesn't have native swype and voice dictation is weaker.
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Are you joking about the keyboard? iOS keyboard is a POS with letters that always show in upper case even when caps lock is off. They place language setting where it's easily changed by accident instead of properly separating it in settings menu. It doesn't have native swype and voice dictation is weaker.
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Well no ****, it goes without saying that voice dictation is weaker on the iOS.
The rest really is just a matter of preference.
I find the nexus 10 keyboard to be unnecessarily cluttered.
I think the iOS keyboard works a lot better on mobile devices.
I also prefer the nexus 4 keyboard over the tablet because it's simpler and intuitive.
I don't use swype typing with two fingers is much faster for me. I've also heard that this native swype is a pos compared to the real swype.
You don't like it, you can probably change it that's the android way.
Well the book readers at still pretty helpless.
I don't get why there's so much... disapproval over the OP's decision. Buying and using a device should probably be personally enjoyable, or else you would of wasted your money right? He listed his reasons why he didn't like the Nexus 10, and purchased an iPad 4, so what? Did he spend your money? Does his decision affect you in any way? Did a car barrel roll for miles across the world killing thousands because of this decision?
Also, I think there is no "master" device or OS. Different people have different tastes and do different things, there is no 1-device/OS-fits-all, and that is a fact
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Mr. I never expected that ur so dumb that u wont get the humor out of the vga thing. Plus vga never support more than 720 p.
Ur criticizing because u are among those who can bear change. Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority now dont say that u use a visual studio or other compilers for programming or maya and other graphic work. For that sort defintely a tablet is useless.
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Firstly, your humour was pretty poor, if that.
Secondly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA "Today, the VGA analog interface is used for high definition video including 1080p and higher."
(W-W-W-W-WIKIPEDIA'D)
Thirdly, while tablets are pretty damn useful at what they do, they aren't nearly powerful enough to take over PCs (hell, they can't even do multi-windowed stuff) so if all you do is browse the web and email your buddies, then sure you can have a tablet replace a PC.
but... "Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority" is an incredibly short sighted and relatively stupid statement.
have fun storing terabytes of data on your tablet.
(p.s. is it really that difficult to structure a decent sentence with decent grammar?)
Fissurez said:
Firstly, your humour was pretty poor, if that.
Secondly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA "Today, the VGA analog interface is used for high definition video including 1080p and higher."
(W-W-W-W-WIKIPEDIA'D)
Thirdly, while tablets are pretty damn useful at what they do, they aren't nearly powerful enough to take over PCs (hell, they can't even do multi-windowed stuff) so if all you do is browse the web and email your buddies, then sure you can have a tablet replace a PC.
but... "Tablets have almost replaced the PCs atleast for a majority" is an incredibly short sighted and relatively stupid statement.
have fun storing terabytes of data on your tablet.
(p.s. is it really that difficult to structure a decent sentence with decent grammar?)
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1. Proving a point using Wikipedia is... well there's a reason why Wikipedia isn't highly-regarded for 100% factual information
2. You'd be surprised how hard English might be when it's not your native language (not sure if the person's native language is or isn't language, just stating this overall)