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Just wanted to let everybody know that I've tried the VALPHA3 of CM7 with Tiamat's 1.1.0 AOSP kernel and (aside from the known bugs) I've NEVER seen an Android phone run this great. 1 hour of medium-heavy use off the charger, OC'd to 1.6 GHz using SetCPU and the lagfree governor and auto-brightness on connected to WiFi, I'm only down 4% on the stock battery. No issues connecting to a WPA2 WiFi network and this thing is FAST! Benchmarks barely show how sweet this thing is running.
[Insert demoralizing comment]
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Doesnt it worsen multitouch?
Temari x Shikamaru
If the benchmark doesn't beat the GSII then ill pass...
Sent from my double barrel Shooter. BANG!
By the way, it seems like the benchmark scores are fairly low because I'm using a "less-than-ideal" 16GB Kingston class 10 card that only achieves class 4 write speeds. Also, anybody who knows anything about Android knows that benchmarks only show half of the story. Not even sure why I included the screenshot now. Had to be the excitement.
I haven't seen any issues with multi-touch.
Also [insert question about demoralizing comment here]...
Why's that? I mean, benchmarks are pretty useless anyways. Testing in real world applications is what matters. And CM7 is much more responsive than Sense apps in that respect.
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It's responsive but buggy. I thought cm
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I have no clue why the alpha 3 thread was closed as I was pretty excited to get an RC or stable download at some point.
Anybody know the status of CM 7 for the EVO 3D?
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I am on hboot 1.5 -- is it possible to get cm without bring s-off?
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issafram said:
I have no clue why the alpha 3 thread was closed as I was pretty excited to get an RC or stable download at some point.
Anybody know the status of CM 7 for the EVO 3D?
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Maybe they are working on bringing alpha versions of ics?
DarkManX4lf said:
Maybe they are working on bringing alpha versions of ics?
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lol?
I already said this..if you guys are expecting any kind of a stable ICS rom before the year's end then you're just setting yourself up to be disappointed. The source isn't gonna be released until middle of November. Then you have a month in half to code a working rom from 100% scratch?
Not to mention 2 major holidays to deal with in that time...no.
The CM7 alpha thread got closed because it was filled with morons going off topic or *****ing each other out. We may not even have nightlies for CM7 before the year's end... development on this particular phone is slow and boring. It is what it is tho..we'll get it eventually.
No 100% working ics until April or May. Im calling it.
Temari x Shikamaru
As an aside: Gingerbread was released in December (SDK was Dec 6th, I couldn't find an actual source date, but I didn't look to hard).
And we had "kang" builds working for the Evo4g by Christmas. I couldn't find when official nightlies began (it looks like mid-January) and the first RC release was in mid-February.
Hopefully this will give people a little perspective into dev times. Granted this is not a timeline that is set in stone. As of right now the 3D doesn't even have CM7 nightlies so it might (read: probably will) take longer.
Just have patience.
Rippley05 said:
The CM7 alpha thread got closed because it was filled with morons going off topic or *****ing each other out. We may not even have nightlies for CM7 before the year's end... development on this particular phone is slow and boring. It is what it is tho..we'll get it eventually.
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I thought that was why, but that is a awful reason. I remember the thread was locked or cleaned up at one point, but come on. Toast is a great dev and all, but I don't support that decision. The one thing I always complain about (and my peers) in work environments, is lack of communication. Im a dev too and I understand that asking for ETA isn't nice. I'm not asking for that at all. Just give me a status update like I dunno, once a month would be nice. I hope the CM team doesn't look at us like a typical dev/client relationship in the work force, where that relationship is non existent.
And yea I know they do it for free, they have real lives, stop complaining, etc. I'm not complaining....I'm asking for better/more frequent communication.
And its my OPINION. If you disagree, do so politely.
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Rippley05 said:
lol?
I already said this..if you guys are expecting any kind of a stable ICS rom before the year's end then you're just setting yourself up to be disappointed. The source isn't gonna be released until middle of November. Then you have a month in half to code a working rom from 100% scratch?
Not to mention 2 major holidays to deal with in that time...no.
The CM7 alpha thread got closed because it was filled with morons going off topic or *****ing each other out. We may not even have nightlies for CM7 before the year's end... development on this particular phone is slow and boring. It is what it is tho..we'll get it eventually.
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This. And even then people should expect to wait MONTHS for things like 4g support or to do without 3D features. At least thats what I remember with the OG Evo.
Also agree with issafram, its a shame the thread was closed instead of cleaned up and forced to stay on topic. I have only followed a handful of ROM threads so I can't speak for how widespread it is, but it seems the EV0 3D forums has been plagued with these problems compared to the EVO 4G forums. I can pontificate the reasons all day but I think the solution is to crack the whip until the offenders learn or leave.
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...Just give me a status update like I dunno, once a month would be nice...
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Alpha3 was released Sept 25th. It is barely over 1 month since then and there have been a couple "status updates" since then.
This is not directed towards you, just in general: Why do people feel like devs owe them something?
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Alpha3 was released Sept 25th. It is barely over 1 month since then and there have been a couple "status updates" since then.
This is not directed towards you, just in general: Why do people feel like devs owe them something?
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The devs don't owe us anything and I know that 100%. Its just hard for a development forum to stay development related when there is basically no public development being made. I love teamwin and toastcfh and can't wait for another release but by the way things seem we wont see anything until nightlies which are probably another 2-3 weeks out. Once trwp 2.0 is released cm7 development should speed up I think. Just no telling when either will be released.
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bagelicious said:
I am on hboot 1.5 -- is it possible to get cm without bring s-off?
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Saw this... hope i answers your question...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306248
rank78 said:
This. And even then people should..... .
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No.
Not "This."
Not that at ALL.
Instead,
THIS:
issafram said:
I thought that was why, but that is a awful reason. I remember the thread was locked or cleaned up at one point, but come on. Toast is a great dev and all, but I don't support that decision. The one thing I always complain about (and my peers) in work environments, is lack of communication. Im a dev too and I understand that asking for ETA isn't nice. I'm not asking for that at all. Just give me a status update like I dunno, once a month would be nice. I hope the CM team doesn't look at us like a typical dev/client relationship in the work force, where that relationship is non existent.
And yea I know they do it for free, they have real lives, stop complaining, etc. I'm not complaining....I'm asking for better/more frequent communication.
And its my OPINION. If you disagree, do so politely.
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Sorry, rank78, but Issafram has it exactly right, here.
If you're going to open a thread, be it in the Dev Forum, in General, in Q&A, or in Themes, there needs to be one thing included in every one, and that's just:
"Common Courtesy".
It shouldn't matter at all how talented the Developer is, or how highly anticipated the ROM is:
If you're going to take the time to open a thread in the first place, the ONE responsibility you should take on is the responsibility of keeping a simple line of communication open to the users who decide to devote their time and interest to that thread.
Sure, you're more than welcome to state right up front "Don't ask for ETAs" and "Keep the thread on-topic!", but the OP has a responsibility then as well:
That's just to take a SMALL bit of time, (even if it's only once a WEEK) to let the users/subscribers know that at least you are 'still working on things', or 'at a roadblock' or 'on hold for now' or even that you're still alive, even.
Apparently, in the CM7 thread, that was too much for even TOAST or Shift to handle, and to insinuate that the closing of the thread was the fault of users going off-topic, (after not a single post in three weeks) , is absolutely asinine.
What kind of topic are users supposed to "stay on" when, by all accounts and measures, the developer has 'jumped ship' on the entire project?
Of course the users in that thread got sidetracked and began making off-topic posts.
Would you expect anything else?
Nope, the CM7 thread WASN'T closed due to the off-TOPIC habits of the users...
Rather, though:
The CM7 thread WAS closed due to the off-THREAD habits of the Developer and the "Maintainer".
Simple as that.
(Not just my two cents, because that's the absolute truth.)
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mazook98 said:
No.
Not "This."
Not that at ALL.
Instead,
THIS:
Sorry, rank78, but Issafram has it exactly right, here.
If you're going to open a thread, be it in the Dev Forum, in General, in Q&A, or in Themes, there needs to be one thing included in every one, and that's just:
"Common Courtesy".
It shouldn't matter at all how talented the Developer is, or how highly anticipated the ROM is:
If you're going to take the time to open a thread in the first place, the ONE responsibility you should take on is the responsibility of keeping a simple line of communication open to the users who decide to devote their time and interest to that thread.
Sure, you're more than welcome to state right up front "Don't ask for ETAs" and "Keep the thread on-topic!", but the OP has a responsibility then as well:
That's just to take a SMALL bit of time, (even if it's only once a WEEK) to let the users/subscribers know that at least you are 'still working on things', or 'at a roadblock' or 'on hold for now' or even that you're still alive, even.
Apparently, in the CM7 thread, that was too much for even TOAST or Shift to handle, and to insinuate that the closing of the thread was the fault of users going off-topic, (after not a single post in three weeks) , is absolutely asinine.
What kind of topic are users supposed to "stay on" when, by all accounts and measures, the developer has 'jumped ship' on the entire project?
Of course the users in that thread got sidetracked and began making off-topic posts.
Would you expect anything else?
Nope, the CM7 thread WASN'T closed due to the off-TOPIC habits of the users...
Rather, though:
The CM7 thread WAS closed due to the off-THREAD habits of the Developer and the "Maintainer".
Simple as that.
(Not just my two cents, because that's the absolute truth.)
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That's exactly what I've been trying to say. But everytime you say anything like you have idiots who's only response is "the devs don't owe you anything" well maybe they don't but if it wasn't for us they would be nobodies.
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... and before I continue I know that the overwhelming consensus is WE WANT ICS! I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats.... but...
Maybe its b/c I am fairly new to both Android and Gingerbread. Having grown tired of the jailbreak cycle of the iPhone, I switched (reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet) to the Skyrocket late last year. Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to square one.
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc. My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO), just like new releases of iOS on my jailbroken 3GS. There was always something that would never work again even after I re-JB it and reinstalled all my JB apps. So after awhile I just stopped updating my 3GS.
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great, but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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... and before I continue I know that the overwhelming consensus is WE WANT ICS! I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats.... but...
Maybe its b/c I am fairly new to both Android and Gingerbread. Having grown tired of the jailbreak cycle of the iPhone, I switched (reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet) to the Skyrocket late last year. Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to sqauare one.
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc. My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO), just like new releases of iOS on my jailbroken 3GS. There was always something that would never work again even after I re-JB it and reinstalled all my JB apps. So after awhile I just stopped updating my 3GS.
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great, but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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IMHO, you are on the right thought path here, which I say only from some past experience with ICS. <-- I realize this is a totally subjective statement, but you have to understand that ICS essentially turned my dying Captivate into a very nimble little device, so if anyone should be singing the praises of ICS, you'd think I would, but not so much...
The user experience is nice, fluid and definitely different from GB, but it does not turn GB on its head from any perspective or by any means.
I do like the different alternative launchers (Trebuchet to a degree and Nova for sure) and I also like the clean look of ICS as well as that it ran smoother and with fewer hiccups on my old Captivate than the damn stock firmware had. lol
However, I think a lot of the core functionality that I liked of ICS came from the Cyanogen underlayment (in other words, all the custom tweaks such as status bar, notification widgets, etc.) but a lot if not all of the same custom tweeks I'm sure will be available in any developed ROM for the Note, whether GB or ICS. Matter of fact, we're already seeing a lot of this in the couple of ROMs that are out there (Saurom, etc.)
At this point, I'm more curious and interested to see what JellyBean (5.0) has in store, and am anxious for Q4 to roll around which I believe is when it's tentatively scheduled for release.
-Ryan
BlackZenith said:
... and before I continue I know that the overwhelming consensus is WE WANT ICS! I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats.... but...
Maybe its b/c I am fairly new to both Android and Gingerbread. Having grown tired of the jailbreak cycle of the iPhone, I switched (reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet) to the Skyrocket late last year. Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to sqauare one.
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc. My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO), just like new releases of iOS on my jailbroken 3GS. There was always something that would never work again even after I re-JB it and reinstalled all my JB apps. So after awhile I just stopped updating my 3GS.
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great, but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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Yeah, that's not the case. Root is already out for the GSII ICS build. There's no reason to not demand ICS as soon as possible, it really is better in every way, and it's ridiculous that the US Note didn't come with it.
and it's ridiculous that the US Note didn't come with it.[/QUOTE said:
Although i stand by my earlier statement, I do agree with this...
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Gingerbread was juste not made for those 720p screen, believe me, I come from a GNexus and ICS is going to be alot better for the note than GingerBread, ICS is alot more fluidband more interactive too.
Returning to Gingerbread when I got ICS since day one (I also had a Nexus S ) is a pain.
BlackZenith said:
I'm not trying to convince anyone that you shouldn't want it or that it's not gonna be the shiznit. I actually hope it will be great, and for all you Android old timers, congrats....
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Many of us are coming from devices that had ICS, so we know what we’re waiting for and that we like it.
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(reluctantly b/c Google == Skynet)
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You’re right, they should be more like apple and charge you for having their nose in all your data and activity (BTW, everything you whisper to siri goes straight to apple servers for translation, same for all major voice recognition software)
BlackZenith said:
Rooting, kernels, and custom ROMs were all new to me. Heck, the screen size was new. But, I am glad I switched. Now that I have the GNote exactly how I want it with a whole slew of custom things (OC kernel, V6, 14 toggles, etc) I can't help but be apathetic to ICS... it's gonna take me back to sqauare one.
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If you don’t like going back to square one, why in the world are you messing with customizing your phone? It’s a fact of life, that’s why the android fairey invented Titanium Backup and external SD cards!
BlackZenith said:
ICS may make my apps start FC'ing, Samsung's implementation of ICS on the GNote may be buggy, etc.
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Yea, the phone could have been buggy when you bought it (some peoples were actually) and any ROM you load could be buggy, any mod you make could make it buggy, flashing kernals and radios and ROMS can brick your phone, this is ok but a factory OS update scares you?
BlackZenith said:
My GNote is faster than stock, no FCs, and all my apps work. ICS is gonna mess all that up (IMO)
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Not trying to nit-pick here, but how can you predict the future as an opinion? And even better, follow it up with...
BlackZenith said:
I'm positive ICS is gonna be great,
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BlackZenith said:
but I'm probably still gonna slap the same 3rd party home screen launcher on it and try my best to get things back to the way they used to be... so what's the rush?
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Then when the update is out, don’t update it. Rooting generally breaks the update anyways, so you should be good if you’ve already done so. If not, then simply flash back to stock. Eazy Peazy.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m really not harping on you. Your post is a rarity here in that it speaks of ICS and not belly aching about what you were told and that you demand it and then all the international owners chime in and say “BUT BUT BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OURS NOT YOURS…cause cause cause ours is ba-ba-better!!!!”. I’m just trying to share my take on this after I peeled my palm from my forehead as there is a lot of conflicting opinions in your post. Going from one OS to the next is the lifecycle of android. I remember getting 1.5 (cupcake, first named release), it took me by surprise, I thought “a phone that’s getting a major face life? Cool” and the addiction was all down hill from there. Each iteration represents all new cool things to discover, reasons why I lay down in bed at 10, but don’t put my phone down till 1230 then drag myself out of bed at 430 the next morning cursing my ADD mentality in relation to tech. It’s just the way it is for a lot of us.
Chief Geek said:
You’re right, they should be more like apple and charge you for having their nose in all your data and activity (BTW, everything you whisper to siri goes straight to apple servers for translation, same for all major voice recognition software)
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Good grief, my reference to Skynet was a joke. If I truly believed that I would have never bought a Android phone. Besides, even in the Driod Bionic commericials they say the it's the first phone to be "self aware". And who said anything about Apple or Siri being apart of the human resistance against the machines?
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If you don’t like going back to square one, why in the world are you messing with customizing your phone? It’s a fact of life, that’s why the android fairey invented Titanium Backup and external SD cards!
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And how are my statements "conflicting"? You ask why would I customize my phone (i.e. anything non stock) if I am worried about going back to square one? Your statement is conflicting when in the same sentence you speak of using TB. How in the world can I use TB if I am stock??? If anything the only way I can keep from updating my phone is by being non-stock before AT&T attempts to push an update to my phone.
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Yea, the phone could have been buggy when you bought it (some peoples were actually) and any ROM you load could be buggy, any mod you make could make it buggy, flashing kernals and radios and ROMS can brick your phone, this is ok but a factory OS update scares you?
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Yes a factory update "scares" me (lol good one) only b/c my custom setup is working great... better than it did factory.
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Not trying to nit-pick here, but how can you predict the future as an opinion? And even better, follow it up with...
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You are nit-piking lol. You've dissected my ENTIRE post smh. I will answer your question with a question: "How can I predict the future as a fact!?" I only say "IMO" b/c I have not used ICS. I can predict the future based off the past. Android is known for being "buggy" with a fragmented ecosystem and marketplace. As far as I am concerned Gingerbread is a mature OS compared to ICS.
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Then when the update is out, don’t update it. Rooting generally breaks the update anyways, so you should be good if you’ve already done so. If not, then simply flash back to stock. Eazy Peazy.
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How about I do you one better. I have frozen the "Device Management" app on my phone. The day you guys stop complaining about ICS problems (Stock/Custom) is the day I will unfreeze it...
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Don’t get me wrong, I’m really not harping on you. Your post is a rarity here in that it speaks of ICS and not belly aching about what you were told and that you demand it and then all the international owners chime in and say “BUT BUT BUT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT OURS NOT YOURS…cause cause cause ours is ba-ba-better!!!!”. I’m just trying to share my take on this after I peeled my palm from my forehead as there is a lot of conflicting opinions in your post. Going from one OS to the next is the lifecycle of android. I remember getting 1.5 (cupcake, first named release), it took me by surprise, I thought “a phone that’s getting a major face life? Cool” and the addiction was all down hill from there. Each iteration represents all new cool things to discover, reasons why I lay down in bed at 10, but don’t put my phone down till 1230 then drag myself out of bed at 430 the next morning cursing my ADD mentality in relation to tech. It’s just the way it is for a lot of us.
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*Sighs* Even after all that you have given me no tangible features ICS has over GB. You sir need to put your phone down and get some sleep.
Wonder if a metal battery door would serve as a tin foil hat for your note just incase the ics invasion does happen.
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Gingerbread was juste not made for those 720p screen, believe me, I come from a GNexus and ICS is going to be alot better for the note than GingerBread, ICS is alot more fluidband more interactive too.
Returning to Gingerbread when I got ICS since day one (I also had a Nexus S ) is a pain.
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Totally agree, gingerbread absolutely blows after having a factory ICS device.
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Wonder if a metal battery door would serve as a tin foil hat for your note just incase the ics invasion does happen.
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Haha that was funny. This may be extremely farfetched, but i wonder if we could port ICS off of the vivid. It may be possible... Same processor and all. Rest will be different though.
Lol but why does it blow. ... Im kinda with OP but dont mind setting phone up 3 times a day but still the point stands what is so much better with ICS i just here "it just is" come on now we are all android fans and that is the arguement iphone fans try and use that we tease about lol. So lets get some real life experience to really say what makes it head over heals better .
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Lol but why does it blow. ... Im kinda with OP but dont mind setting phone up 3 times a day but still the point stands what is so much better with ICS i just here "it just is" come on now we are all android fans and that is the arguement iphone fans try and use that we tease about lol. So lets get some real life experience to really say what makes it head over heals better .
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Ok, i guess I'll bite.
First, and foremost, it is far faster and smoother. You can interpret this as being more efficient depending on your definition. When ICS ROMs began maturing into daily drivers, it knocked the dust loose off of alot of our phones. My Vibrant, a first gen Galaxy S device, was given a great breath of life when it first saw the light of ICS. This alone is worth wanting ICS. My Vibrant became snappier and all together a pleasant experience again.
Second, it takes alot of the features that were in Honey Comb (a tablet only OS) and rolled them into a handset OS. This includes a bunch of small features that include things like Roboto Font and improvements in cameras and radios.
As iterations go by, you will notice alot of "add on" features become stock components of the OS. This is by no means exclusive to android, all OSs of all platforms do it. Its giving the customer what they want. Things like Screen shot and voice commands have long been missing and were added ala cart via the market and some specialty oem features (like us using the S-Pen to take screen grabs). So more and more of these are rolled into the OS to make it a smoother overall experience.
Next lets talk about NFC. It is, in my opinion, under utilized piece of technology that has been ignored for too long due to peoples fears of their data being stolen (while leaving other far more susceptible techs wide open like BT). ICS brings NFC to the table so those who have paid to have it in their device (hello note users) have the option of playing with it and even using it if in an area where this is possible.
Past the above, there are other refinements such as the cut and and paste being much easier, menus being easier to navigate, and an overall better experience. There really is nothing ground breaking like when multi touch entered the scene and other great new advances. ICS offers us a much more fluid OS to dive into. Yes it may be buggy when we first start playing with it. The experienced among us already know why, it's because we'll likely be running custom ROMs far before it's officially released or atleast before it gets pushed out to the masses. It won't be earth shattering, but it will be awesome to get alot of the cool features on a great device. It'll be different things to different people. Some may not even notice it other then it's bluer then normal.
Oh yea, and it's much purdier...
I think you mean drooling.
californiarailroader said:
I think you mean drooling.
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or trolling
This has my vote for the "thread of the week"!
I love it when phone geeks go back and forth......cause I find out things I never knew about...and everyone makes good points so we are all winners!
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Ok, i guess I'll bite.
First, and foremost, it is far faster and smoother. You can interpret this as being more efficient depending on your definition. When ICS ROMs began maturing into daily drivers, it knocked the dust loose off of alot of our phones. My Vibrant, a first gen Galaxy S device, was given a great breath of life when it first saw the light of ICS. This alone is worth wanting ICS. My Vibrant became snappier and all together a pleasant experience again.
Second, it takes alot of the features that were in Honey Comb (a tablet only OS) and rolled them into a handset OS. This includes a bunch of small features that include things like Roboto Font and improvements in cameras and radios.
As iterations go by, you will notice alot of "add on" features become stock components of the OS. This is by no means exclusive to android, all OSs of all platforms do it. Its giving the customer what they want. Things like Screen shot and voice commands have long been missing and were added ala cart via the market and some specialty oem features (like us using the S-Pen to take screen grabs). So more and more of these are rolled into the OS to make it a smoother overall experience.
Next lets talk about NFC. It is, in my opinion, under utilized piece of technology that has been ignored for too long due to peoples fears of their data being stolen (while leaving other far more susceptible techs wide open like BT). ICS brings NFC to the table so those who have paid to have it in their device (hello note users) have the option of playing with it and even using it if in an area where this is possible.
Past the above, there are other refinements such as the cut and and paste being much easier, menus being easier to navigate, and an overall better experience. There really is nothing ground breaking like when multi touch entered the scene and other great new advances. ICS offers us a much more fluid OS to dive into. Yes it may be buggy when we first start playing with it. The experienced among us already know why, it's because we'll likely be running custom ROMs far before it's officially released or atleast before it gets pushed out to the masses. It won't be earth shattering, but it will be awesome to get alot of the cool features on a great device. It'll be different things to different people. Some may not even notice it other then it's bluer then normal.
Oh yea, and it's much purdier...
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Thank you .... that helps a lot better for someone who hasnt personally used ICS. Better then the "its just better" responses I heard.
Next Question I have is I know comparing Stock Gingerbread to Stock ICS the more Fluid response stands out from what I hear but what about Custom Rom Gingerbread to Stock ICS would we really get a smoother feel. I know that this all an opinion but man I am on the DAg's custom and I cant picture it getting much smoother.
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Thank you .... that helps a lot better for someone who hasnt personally used ICS. Better then the "its just better" responses I heard.
Next Question I have is I know comparing Stock Gingerbread to Stock ICS the more Fluid response stands out from what I hear but what about Custom Rom Gingerbread to Stock ICS would we really get a smoother feel. I know that this all an opinion but man I am on the DAg's custom and I cant picture it getting much smoother.
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The reason most people say "its just better" is because they dont realize all the little things done to make it better, they just realize the over all effect of being better. Perfect example is the new Roboto font, people dont realize its a new font, they just have an easier time reading.
As for my experience a mature custom rom is always better then a factory rom. They are slimmed down with little to no bloat and have been tailored to work better. But with all that said, you can't really pick a winner without knowing he contestants. I've used some awesome ROMs and some down right buggy ones, and the same goes for OEM ROMs. That's the great thing about ROMs though, you DL a hand full and start flashing untill you find yourself saying "ohh...now this is niiice"
My only thought from this thread is how much I hate the acronym "SMH".
On topic, coming from my captivate with CM9 Alpha, I personally, am drooling for ICS.
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My only thought from this thread is how much I hate the acronym "SMH".
On topic, coming from my captivate with CM9 Alpha, I personally, am drooling for ICS.
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I agree with both of your points, so much.
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I've certainly given up hope. Sad though, this is a great phone, but looks like it's going to be another failed "in-between" device for developers.
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I've certainly given up hope. Sad though, this is a great phone, but looks like it's going to be another failed "in-between" device for developers.
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all im saying is people dont know the half of what goes on behind the scenes. myself included. just because people aren't on here every 10 minutes giving updates of everything that goes on does not mean progress has not, and is not, being made.
kernel issues are being worked on, even without official HTC source.
just relax. stop reading the forums every half hour. it'll make the wait easier.
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all im saying is people dont know the half of what goes on behind the scenes. myself included. just because people aren't on here every 10 minutes giving updates of everything that goes on does not mean progress has not, and is not, being made.
kernel issues are being worked on, even without official HTC source.
just relax. stop reading the forums every half hour. it'll make the wait easier.
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I've certainly given up hope. Sad though, this is a great phone, but looks like it's going to be another failed "in-between" device for developers.
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dude, come on. you post once a week about how you're either sick of this phone because it'll never run AOKP or that you've given up hope on AOKP. enough is enough. if you don't like the god damn phone because it runs sense, go buy a ****ing nexus.
...So let me get this straight, you're complaining about a frivolous issue when our source for ICS hasn't dropped? I'll laugh when you have a different phone, we get source, and the development section explodes.
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dude, come on. you post once a week about how you're either sick of this phone because it'll never run AOKP or that you've given up hope on AOKP. enough is enough. if you don't like the god damn phone because it runs sense, go buy a ****ing nexus.
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In the midst of doing that right now, thank you very much.
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...So let me get this straight, you're complaining about a frivolous issue when our source for ICS hasn't dropped? I'll laugh when you have a different phone, we get source, and the development section explodes.
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I hope you're right...I truly do, because I like the phone.
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dude, come on. you post once a week about how you're either sick of this phone because it'll never run AOKP or that you've given up hope on AOKP. enough is enough. if you don't like the god damn phone because it runs sense, go buy a ****ing nexus.
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This is so true. Why in the WORLD did you buy an HTC phone that you know runs sense when you DON'T want sense? Nothing is a given. I remember my 1st android phone was an Eris, and one time a leak came out, and the people who flashed it were STUCK. For the LONGEST TIME! Could not go up, down, were totally stuck on the leak. Things happen, and sometimes, things DON'T happen.
I want AOSP too. But not because I don't like sense, otherwise I would not have gotten the Rezound. I like options, that's all.
Lesson? Don't buy an HTC phone if you don't like sense. Simple as that.
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This is so true. Why in the WORLD did you buy an HTC phone that you know runs sense when you DON'T want sense? Nothing is a given. I remember my 1st android phone was an Eris, and one time a leak came out, and the people who flashed it were STUCK. For the LONGEST TIME! Could not go up, down, were totally stuck on the leak. Things happen, and sometimes, things DON'T happen.
I want AOSP too. But not because I don't like sense, otherwise I would not have gotten the Rezound. I like options, that's all.
Lesson? Don't buy an HTC phone if you don't like sense. Simple as that.
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At least he's not an EVO 3D owner that flashed the Virgin Mobile leak that "locked" their phones.
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all im saying is people dont know the half of what goes on behind the scenes. myself included. just because people aren't on here every 10 minutes giving updates of everything that goes on does not mean progress has not, and is not, being made.
kernel issues are being worked on, even without official HTC source.
just relax. stop reading the forums every half hour. it'll make the wait easier.
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+1 as well.
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At least he's not an EVO 3D owner that flashed the Virgin Mobile leak that "locked" their phones.
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Yeah at least my Eris still worked. There were some crappy side effects but in the end it functioned. I'll never forget sitting in the #Eris IRC room with zifnab, justincase/teamandirc and beesley trying to figure out WTF to do and how screwed I was.
Just saying. Could be a lot worse.
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Yeah at least my Eris still worked. There were some crappy side effects but in the end it functioned. I'll never forget sitting in the #Eris IRC room with zifnab, justincase/teamandirc and beesley trying to figure out WTF to do and how screwed I was.
Just saying. Could be a lot worse.
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Very true.
I still don't understand why you had me help you through the Stock to S-OFF, ICS Firmware, Custom rom process if you were gonna return it again.
And in my own defense (not that y'all will accept any). LOL
This is my FIRST Android. I'm coming from a JB iPhone for about 4 years and with it being ONE device there was CONSTANT development. So forgive me for seeming a tad impatient. I AM! ROFL
I appreciate all the development and love updates and feedback. BUT, per all you fine gentleman I'll either get a Nexus or shut the fu*k up and wait until the source code for ICS is released.
****CRAWLING BACK UNDER MY ROCK NOW****
ROFL!
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I still don't understand why you had me help you through the Stock to S-OFF, ICS Firmware, Custom rom process if you were gonna return it again.
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I'm not returning it...I'm just looking for a second device. I had a warrantied device because of a camera issue so had to walk through all that stuff again.
But I plan on keeping the device even if/when I get the Nexus or SIII or whatever.
I hope it comes. I bought it assuming that it would honestly. I like sense but is bloated so much now. I would rather have more battery and speed that cm would offer. I came from an incredible and had no idea that ril would be a huge obstacle like it is. Oh well live and learn. I have an upgrade coming up anyway so if it doesn't come I may be moving on
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Rather see AOKP.
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Markus?
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I was dying for it because I aways put go launcher on top of sense which made my.phone really laggy specially with a 500 mb or so rpm. Even with Scott's 380 slim and fit de.
Then came newts new release, with a lot of the features go has built in.
Now I could give a ff about aokp. As long as newt is around am at ease.
Sense 4 came a.long way with him. One or more two editions and I see that Rom being the one and only for the rezound.
Don't hold your breath, live with the fact that it will not happen (yay if it does )and work on finding a descent rom that fits ur needs rather than wasting time checking Twitter and xda, work with a specific Rom. Be generous and.patient and polite with your dev and you will reap gold
ask not what your developper can do for you, ask what you can do for you developper.
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That's ****ed up man! ROFL I'm no where near Marcus. LOL
First off, this isn't a flame/finger-pointing thread. I am legitimately concerned about the future development for this phone. I LOVE this phone, but it hurts me to see all of the nonsensical drama and never ending bickering that goes on in every GD thread ever created on this site. It's actually quite incredible. Speaking of incredible, that was my last android phone and that forum is still kicking. Quite impressively actually. Rezound development has hit a slow patch for multiple reasons, such as source and slow updates etc. Which is totally understandable and I'm willing to be patient because I know it will be worth the wait, BUT what really bothers me is the amount of talent that has already jumped ship for whatever reasin. Will we be able to recover a few months down the road or has this phones reputation been tarnished for good?
Discuss.
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I suspect when source drops, several of the heavy weights will roll in. If not, I'm sure someone will step up and take a swing at it.
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I suspect when source drops, several of the heavy weights will roll in. If not, I'm sure someone will step up and take a swing at it.
Sent from my evolving Rezound.
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I would hope that is the case, but the drama that has taken place for the past 6 months could drive folks away. I think one thing we have going for us is price drops.
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I think you're confusing the reasons for slow development with a bad reputation for the phone owners. I haven't seen our bad reputation actually slow any development. Perhaps there are devs that would be willing to work on the Rezound if not for its owners always bickering, but I sure haven't heard about any. And out of the devs who have left, I think Protekk might be the only one who did so because of our reputation (and let's not get into the can of worms of whether or not he ever actually developed for the Rezound). If you look at the rest, they left for unsurprising reasons: better phones or phones that are easier to develop for (or personal reasons, like bored). I can only hope that we pick up devs as source is released and things get easier, but I suspect one of the things that keeps a phone development going strong is a large user base. I doubt that the Rezound shared the popularity of the original Incredible, or the popularity that the Nexus/SGS3/One X currently have.
This same problem is with the amaze!
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I think you're confusing the reasons for slow development with a bad reputation for the phone owners. I haven't seen our bad reputation actually slow any development. Perhaps there are devs that would be willing to work on the Rezound if not for its owners always bickering, but I sure haven't heard about any. And out of the devs who have left, I think Protekk might be the only one who did so because of our reputation (and let's not get into the can of worms of whether or not he ever actually developed for the Rezound). If you look at the rest, they left for unsurprising reasons: better phones or phones that are easier to develop for (or personal reasons, like bored). I can only hope that we pick up devs as source is released and things get easier, but I suspect one of the things that keeps a phone development going strong is a large user base. I doubt that the Rezound shared the popularity of the original Incredible, or the popularity that the Nexus/SGS3/One X currently have.
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Good points. Basically, I just lose hope everytime something happens like what happened last night with joelz threads.
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sadly, i dont think so. we lost 95% of our devs. mostly due to asshattery and all around dumbasses who hate, troll and ruin the experience for anyone else. this community is broken right now and i dont know if we would ever be able to put the pieces back together....
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This same problem is with the amaze!
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Well, at least we aren't the only ones
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antp121 said:
sadly, i dont think so. we lost 95% of our devs. mostly due to asshattery and all around dumbasses who hate, troll and ruin the experience for anyone else. this community is broken right now and i dont know if we would ever be able to put the pieces back together....
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asshatery. I like that one lol
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Well, at least we aren't the only ones
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asshatery. I like that one lol
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yeah it was either that or douchebagery but i think that ones too mainstream :hipster: (<----totally need a smiley for that)
antp121 said:
sadly, i dont think so. we lost 95% of our devs. mostly due to asshattery and all around dumbasses who hate, troll and ruin the experience for anyone else. this community is broken right now and i dont know if we would ever be able to put the pieces back together....
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Not trying to incite anything, but what developers did we lose to people being stupid?
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Not trying to incite anything, but what developers did we lose to people being stupid?
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not necessarily being stupid but just ALL the STUPID dev fights...
lets see who we lost.
joel is preoccupied with school
bored is dealing with problems irl
newt went to mikmik
zone went to mikmik
scott got a one x
that leaves
con and meadows who got gnex's but still promise dev work
nils who is great
siul who does gsm stuff.
raptor who released a rom yesterday
slim
not to mention all of the people who jumped ship for the gnex (soon to be me too)
antp121 said:
not necessarily being stupid but just ALL the STUPID dev fights...
lets see who we lost.
joel is preoccupied with school
bored is dealing with problems irl
newt went to mikmik
zone went to mikmik
scott got a one x
that leaves
con and meadows who got gnex's but still promise dev work
nils who is great
siul who does gsm stuff.
raptor who released a rom yesterday
slim
not to mention all of the people who jumped ship for the gnex (soon to be me too)
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Okay, so your list isn't much different than what I had in my head. And although there has been some ridiculous fighting (including among devs) in the past, I believe that none of those who have actually left the Rezound did so because of the fighting. As messed up as our community may be, I still maintain it hasn't chased anybody off. Now it may not be welcoming people in either, but I'd imagine the main barrier to entry is the fact that the Rezound is an 8 month old phone with a small user base.
I'm not worried about it. Frankly there is a disconnect with developers and users. Expectations are high from both sides these days whether it be wanting updates frequently or asking for donations only to move on to greener pastures. I think everyone just needs to take a step back and relax. If you feel slighted, sorry but there is no guarantees and realize this is not work, nor is it the real world. Donations are supposed to be tokens of appreciation with no strings attached but hopefully the Devs reciprocate with new stuff. Take what we have a enjoy it. Support our current crew and hope for the best.
We have updated releases from Con, Nils, Slimrom, etc etc... We also still have roms here that are aged but work perfectly well like CR 4.5 or DE Edition, Joelz 2.1 ICS rom or even GB roms from Chingy and Scott. We also have several emerging developers that should be supported. I apologize if I missed anyone but I think everyone should be supported including our talented themers like MikeD and Zhp Pilot for example. We have fully functioning and stable GB and ICS releases that have been improved from the OTAs. Sure we don't have JB yet. But we have a device with an excellent camera that is reasonably up to date. I would get a Nexus as well if I felt compelled to do so, but probably would be unhappy when I took a picture on the outdated 5 mp camera that sucks imho. In other words, we all value different things and have opinions but the one thing we should all agree on is this bickering needs to end. Maybe if this forum becomes a little more user friendly, more people will come forward and even come back to contribute. Sorry for the long response.
Don't forget the ROM in my sig that is one of the most awesome ROMs I have ever run on ANY phone.
I don't think so, pretty much all the main devs have left to the Nexus now that JellyBean has come out and a lot of users are going there too. Most devs will be done with the Rezound before source ever comes out and I don't see them coming back. And with the Incredible 4g coming out very soon I see the left over devs and users making their way towards that, and the Rezound fading into the sunset
I'm an optimistic pessimist ... Basically I expect the worst but hope for the best. Actually, just a few days ago I decided to see if anything had gone on with my old Eris and found out cm7 recently came out running gb. I feel like the Rezound and Eris have a lot in common (not hardware wise! I just mean not ever really being pushed by vz, etc). So, yeah, sh*tty for now, but fine in the long run.I've been wanting to get into developing so maybe this is my time to shine! (Or not )
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The bickering was mostly a product of one immature dev in our community. Joelz complained about others Kanging his work, all while Kanging the exact people in return. He then began promising release dates and completely missing them multiple times. Noone needs ETAs but dont go posting them and then not even come close to making the deadline. He claimed a new release on between the 14-21 of Jun. Its obviously much after that and no release.
He is a child still in highschool and it reflects in his actions on here.
The small bickering is on most every forum.
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Don't forget the ROM in my sig that is one of the most awesome ROMs I have ever run on ANY phone.
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Knew I forgot one. Lol. Agreed.
Don't forget erishasnobattery. Probably would have had aosp had he stayed. He left because of both the community and because of the developers. He posted a nasty thread on rootz slamming our devs. I personally lost all respect for him after that post.
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The bickering was mostly a product of one immature dev in our community. Joelz complained about others Kanging his work, all while Kanging the exact people in return. He then began promising release dates and completely missing them multiple times. Noone needs ETAs but dont go posting them and then not even come close to making the deadline. He claimed a new release on between the 14-21 of Jun. Its obviously much after that and no release.
He is a child still in highschool and it reflects in his actions on here.
The small bickering is on most every forum.
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Not going to get into this but check out his last 3 pages in his pkmn thread with his new release and ill give you a link to his newest one that is basically stock sense 4 with mms bug and no tweaks so you can see he didn't rip anyone off and was trying to still dev while going to school this summer.
Edit: June Beta rom with no tweaks Description: Viper-rez_Beta
depositfiles.com http://multiupload.biz/df_6q0za7xd57te
rapidshare.com http://multiupload.biz/rs_6q0za7xd57te
uploading.com http://multiupload.biz/up_6q0za7xd57te
uploaded.to http://multiupload.biz/ul_6q0za7xd57te
bitshare.com http://multiupload.biz/bs_6q0za7xd57te
share-online.biz http://multiupload.biz/so_6q0za7xd57te
asfile.com http://multiupload.biz/as_6q0za7xd57te
I used multiupload so which ever site you trust more go right ahead and download.
This is also his most stable from late may that he never released do to a rebase
Chameleon Rom: http://www.androidfilehost.com/main/Rezound_Developers/Joel/.private
I just wanted to rant a bit, just because I was so excited about Lollipop I could hardly take it. Now that I have tried it on my G2, I was expecting more of the cool animations that Google showed off. I was more or less expecting anything that was updated to the latest version with gapps, there would be a big difference on how the app functioned and presented itself.
I do realize it is an alpha build I was testing, but I was expecting to be wow'd. The dialer was the only thing that actually had the cool animations that were really similar to what Google showed off. I can actually say that I will wait now until there is more things designed around Lollipop and I hope I can still be wow'd.
I guess I don't understand how Google can come up with all these great ideas, but fail to execute them properly. I am certainly no Apple fan boy, but at least Apple can showcase what they have and everyone gets to use it right away. I feel like Google says, this is what are OS can do, but the developers need to do it. Why not show what can be done with their own stuff. I tried Google Music to see if did what the demo showed and nope, just not there yet.
I hope that I am wrong, and Lollipop will mature to something awesome. Mind you, what I did like was how smooth it felt for an alpha build. Something did startup much quicker, but I guess I will have to wait and see how things play out.
Rant over!
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I just wanted to rant a bit, just because I was so excited about Lollipop I could hardly take it. Now that I have tried it on my G2, I was expecting more of the cool animations that Google showed off. I was more or less expecting anything that was updated to the latest version with gapps, there would be a big difference on how the app functioned and presented itself.
I do realize it is an alpha build I was testing, but I was expecting to be wow'd. The dialer was the only thing that actually had the cool animations that were really similar to what Google showed off. I can actually say that I will wait now until there is more things designed around Lollipop and I hope I can still be wow'd.
I guess I don't understand how Google can come up with all these great ideas, but fail to execute them properly. I am certainly no Apple fan boy, but at least Apple can showcase what they have and everyone gets to use it right away. I feel like Google says, this is what are OS can do, but the developers need to do it. Why not show what can be done with their own stuff. I tried Google Music to see if did what the demo showed and nope, just not there yet.
I hope that I am wrong, and Lollipop will mature to something awesome. Mind you, what I did like was how smooth it felt for an alpha build. Something did startup much quicker, but I guess I will have to wait and see how things play out.
Rant over!
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Well may be you were over excited about it but for sure your opinion is wrong acc to me.
Apps has been designed well I like most the calender app and dialer.
I am not expecting some kind of magic in animations but they are cool.
I bet if the awesome devs didn't get us LP this would be a rage thread about not having LP instead of nitpicking LP. TL;DR count your blessings and be happy that you have the latest version on Android on your device.
He's not nit picking at the devs but at Google themselves.
Lol and what's Google's fault here?
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Atleast you guys got to try it, us d803 own3rs still didnt
I agree. Simple actions like choosing your google accounts from the sidebar aren't even animated. When you tap on the arrow, your accounts simple appear out of nowhere; you would have thought that Google would have at least put in a sliding down animation, or maybe even the slick animation in chrome when you tap on the overflow menu.
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Well may be you were over excited about it but for sure your opinion is wrong acc to me.
Apps has been designed well I like most the calender app and dialer.
I am not expecting some kind of magic in animations but they are cool.
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That's kind of my point. It is just the calendar and dialer that look really nice. Everything else appears to be close, but not quite there yet.
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I bet if the awesome devs didn't get us LP this would be a rage thread about not having LP instead of nitpicking LP. TL;DR count your blessings and be happy that you have the latest version on Android on your device.
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I did enjoy using Lollipop in it's alpha stage on my device. So my post was nothing in regards to the dev's, it was Google. I'm sure over time things will start coming together, but this was their biggest release, and I guess I was over-hyping myself.
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Atleast you guys got to try it, us d803 own3rs still didnt
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There's now 2 different ROMs available for the D803 (AICP and CM), and a separate D803 kernel (from Render) that can be flashed onto D802 ROMs. And Rev3nt3ch is about to release a separate kernel as well, which should support D803.
All good things come to those who can wait patiently.
Typos courtesy of my Liquified LG G2 (D803).
If having the latest and greatest so soon after launch get a Nexus
"I do realize it is an alpha build I was testing but I was expecting to be wow'd."
That's like being let down when you're told that the bank might deny you a loan because your credit sucks.
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"I do realize it is an alpha build I was testing but I was expecting to be wow'd."
That's like being let down when you're told that the bank might deny you a loan because your credit sucks.
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What? Wait what?
No it's not, it's like being told, "here is what you're gonna get" and then saying "but you're getting it in drips and drabs".
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Do you know what, what ever happened to Google Wowing everyone, everything they used to do made people sit up and take notice, but the past few years everything had been under whelming, since ICS nothing has really changed, colours are dark and flat, icons look dated and boring, they don't pop out at you, after using my nexus 10 since getting official lollipop Im not impressed. And as lg g2 will be skinned you won't tell any difference, you'll get the placebo effect "Omg its rapid" "it's so snappy" yawn everyone says this after every update.
Lollipop is making me happy. Different enough to feel new, but not changing things just for the sake of change. Of course my only experience with it is on my nexus 6, I am still waiting for an official update for my g2 since I need the Wi-Fi calling on T-Mobile. I never watched any of the preview videos from Google, only from tech sites that reviewed it and I didn't notice any differences. Either they showed something drastically different or the alpha builds for the g2 aren't complete, hence the alpha.
Mike
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BackDaws said:
What? Wait what?
No it's not, it's like being told, "here is what you're gonna get" and then saying "but you're getting it in drips and drabs".
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Do you know what, what ever happened to Google Wowing everyone, everything they used to do made people sit up and take notice, but the past few years everything had been under whelming, since ICS nothing has really changed, colours are dark and flat, icons look dated and boring, they don't pop out at you, after using my nexus 10 since getting official lollipop Im not impressed. And as lg g2 will be skinned you won't tell any difference, you'll get the placebo effect "Omg its rapid" "it's so snappy" yawn everyone says this after every update.
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Well. At least Google is leading the race in new design compared to iOS and Windows Phone.
I can't believe I'm going to say this but here goes, ios is starting to look more fresh and clean compared to android, it's vibrant, bright and very good looking, the icons are complex and are very detailed. If iOS had widgets like android does I would jump ship.
Which icons are you talking about? If it's the app icons then complain to the app developers, not Google. Colors and theming are a very subjective thing, I personally like the direction android is going, others don't. The good thing about android is the ability to change it to suit your tastes, install another launcher or a theme changer.
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BackDaws said:
I can't believe I'm going to say this but here goes, ios is starting to look more fresh and clean compared to android, it's vibrant, bright and very good looking, the icons are complex and are very detailed. If iOS had widgets like android does I would jump ship.
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Fresh and clean? All they did was finally implement things that android has had for ages. They are not innovators, they kang **** once they know what people find interesting.
Just like when nameless put out on the go mode, few weeks after apple made their own version and tried to copyright it.
Seems like you're hanging out with too many douches in skinny jeans that have 6+'s
Lawlrus said:
Fresh and clean? All they did was finally implement things that android has had for ages. They are not innovators, they kang **** once they know what people find interesting.
Just like when nameless put out on the go mode, few weeks after apple made their own version and tried to copyright it.
Seems like you're hanging out with too many douches in skinny jeans that have 6+'s
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Lol. That was cold man. Lol, cold.
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Remember when Apple said big phones were stupid. Hmph, wonder what happened there.
And honestly I like iPhones but not 6+. Way too big for having nothing new to use that space. No wonder winterboard and such apps exists.
I don't hang around mate, I'm 40, and considering your reply I'll presume you're 12, the LOOK of iOS is fresh and clean. Im sorry but Lollipop is muddy and bland.
Wow I managed to get that out without calling you a ****....... Oops no there it is.
BackDaws said:
I don't hang around mate, I'm 40, and considering your reply I'll presume you're 12, the LOOK of iOS is fresh and clean. Im sorry but Lollipop is muddy and bland.
Wow I managed to get that out without calling you a ****....... Oops no there it is.
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You actually did well up until that last part where you ultimately ended up insulting him. -5pts for boasting about not calling him a ****, another -5pts for turning around and calling him a **** in the end, and -10pts for stating that you're 40.