I just wanted to rant a bit, just because I was so excited about Lollipop I could hardly take it. Now that I have tried it on my G2, I was expecting more of the cool animations that Google showed off. I was more or less expecting anything that was updated to the latest version with gapps, there would be a big difference on how the app functioned and presented itself.
I do realize it is an alpha build I was testing, but I was expecting to be wow'd. The dialer was the only thing that actually had the cool animations that were really similar to what Google showed off. I can actually say that I will wait now until there is more things designed around Lollipop and I hope I can still be wow'd.
I guess I don't understand how Google can come up with all these great ideas, but fail to execute them properly. I am certainly no Apple fan boy, but at least Apple can showcase what they have and everyone gets to use it right away. I feel like Google says, this is what are OS can do, but the developers need to do it. Why not show what can be done with their own stuff. I tried Google Music to see if did what the demo showed and nope, just not there yet.
I hope that I am wrong, and Lollipop will mature to something awesome. Mind you, what I did like was how smooth it felt for an alpha build. Something did startup much quicker, but I guess I will have to wait and see how things play out.
Rant over!
splxtreme said:
I just wanted to rant a bit, just because I was so excited about Lollipop I could hardly take it. Now that I have tried it on my G2, I was expecting more of the cool animations that Google showed off. I was more or less expecting anything that was updated to the latest version with gapps, there would be a big difference on how the app functioned and presented itself.
I do realize it is an alpha build I was testing, but I was expecting to be wow'd. The dialer was the only thing that actually had the cool animations that were really similar to what Google showed off. I can actually say that I will wait now until there is more things designed around Lollipop and I hope I can still be wow'd.
I guess I don't understand how Google can come up with all these great ideas, but fail to execute them properly. I am certainly no Apple fan boy, but at least Apple can showcase what they have and everyone gets to use it right away. I feel like Google says, this is what are OS can do, but the developers need to do it. Why not show what can be done with their own stuff. I tried Google Music to see if did what the demo showed and nope, just not there yet.
I hope that I am wrong, and Lollipop will mature to something awesome. Mind you, what I did like was how smooth it felt for an alpha build. Something did startup much quicker, but I guess I will have to wait and see how things play out.
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Well may be you were over excited about it but for sure your opinion is wrong acc to me.
Apps has been designed well I like most the calender app and dialer.
I am not expecting some kind of magic in animations but they are cool.
I bet if the awesome devs didn't get us LP this would be a rage thread about not having LP instead of nitpicking LP. TL;DR count your blessings and be happy that you have the latest version on Android on your device.
He's not nit picking at the devs but at Google themselves.
Lol and what's Google's fault here?
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Atleast you guys got to try it, us d803 own3rs still didnt
I agree. Simple actions like choosing your google accounts from the sidebar aren't even animated. When you tap on the arrow, your accounts simple appear out of nowhere; you would have thought that Google would have at least put in a sliding down animation, or maybe even the slick animation in chrome when you tap on the overflow menu.
mohitgalaxy3 said:
Well may be you were over excited about it but for sure your opinion is wrong acc to me.
Apps has been designed well I like most the calender app and dialer.
I am not expecting some kind of magic in animations but they are cool.
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That's kind of my point. It is just the calendar and dialer that look really nice. Everything else appears to be close, but not quite there yet.
zetsumeikuro said:
I bet if the awesome devs didn't get us LP this would be a rage thread about not having LP instead of nitpicking LP. TL;DR count your blessings and be happy that you have the latest version on Android on your device.
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I did enjoy using Lollipop in it's alpha stage on my device. So my post was nothing in regards to the dev's, it was Google. I'm sure over time things will start coming together, but this was their biggest release, and I guess I was over-hyping myself.
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Atleast you guys got to try it, us d803 own3rs still didnt
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There's now 2 different ROMs available for the D803 (AICP and CM), and a separate D803 kernel (from Render) that can be flashed onto D802 ROMs. And Rev3nt3ch is about to release a separate kernel as well, which should support D803.
All good things come to those who can wait patiently.
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If having the latest and greatest so soon after launch get a Nexus
"I do realize it is an alpha build I was testing but I was expecting to be wow'd."
That's like being let down when you're told that the bank might deny you a loan because your credit sucks.
Jammol said:
"I do realize it is an alpha build I was testing but I was expecting to be wow'd."
That's like being let down when you're told that the bank might deny you a loan because your credit sucks.
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What? Wait what?
No it's not, it's like being told, "here is what you're gonna get" and then saying "but you're getting it in drips and drabs".
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Do you know what, what ever happened to Google Wowing everyone, everything they used to do made people sit up and take notice, but the past few years everything had been under whelming, since ICS nothing has really changed, colours are dark and flat, icons look dated and boring, they don't pop out at you, after using my nexus 10 since getting official lollipop Im not impressed. And as lg g2 will be skinned you won't tell any difference, you'll get the placebo effect "Omg its rapid" "it's so snappy" yawn everyone says this after every update.
Lollipop is making me happy. Different enough to feel new, but not changing things just for the sake of change. Of course my only experience with it is on my nexus 6, I am still waiting for an official update for my g2 since I need the Wi-Fi calling on T-Mobile. I never watched any of the preview videos from Google, only from tech sites that reviewed it and I didn't notice any differences. Either they showed something drastically different or the alpha builds for the g2 aren't complete, hence the alpha.
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What? Wait what?
No it's not, it's like being told, "here is what you're gonna get" and then saying "but you're getting it in drips and drabs".
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Do you know what, what ever happened to Google Wowing everyone, everything they used to do made people sit up and take notice, but the past few years everything had been under whelming, since ICS nothing has really changed, colours are dark and flat, icons look dated and boring, they don't pop out at you, after using my nexus 10 since getting official lollipop Im not impressed. And as lg g2 will be skinned you won't tell any difference, you'll get the placebo effect "Omg its rapid" "it's so snappy" yawn everyone says this after every update.
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Well. At least Google is leading the race in new design compared to iOS and Windows Phone.
I can't believe I'm going to say this but here goes, ios is starting to look more fresh and clean compared to android, it's vibrant, bright and very good looking, the icons are complex and are very detailed. If iOS had widgets like android does I would jump ship.
Which icons are you talking about? If it's the app icons then complain to the app developers, not Google. Colors and theming are a very subjective thing, I personally like the direction android is going, others don't. The good thing about android is the ability to change it to suit your tastes, install another launcher or a theme changer.
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I can't believe I'm going to say this but here goes, ios is starting to look more fresh and clean compared to android, it's vibrant, bright and very good looking, the icons are complex and are very detailed. If iOS had widgets like android does I would jump ship.
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Fresh and clean? All they did was finally implement things that android has had for ages. They are not innovators, they kang **** once they know what people find interesting.
Just like when nameless put out on the go mode, few weeks after apple made their own version and tried to copyright it.
Seems like you're hanging out with too many douches in skinny jeans that have 6+'s
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Fresh and clean? All they did was finally implement things that android has had for ages. They are not innovators, they kang **** once they know what people find interesting.
Just like when nameless put out on the go mode, few weeks after apple made their own version and tried to copyright it.
Seems like you're hanging out with too many douches in skinny jeans that have 6+'s
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Lol. That was cold man. Lol, cold.
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Remember when Apple said big phones were stupid. Hmph, wonder what happened there.
And honestly I like iPhones but not 6+. Way too big for having nothing new to use that space. No wonder winterboard and such apps exists.
I don't hang around mate, I'm 40, and considering your reply I'll presume you're 12, the LOOK of iOS is fresh and clean. Im sorry but Lollipop is muddy and bland.
Wow I managed to get that out without calling you a ****....... Oops no there it is.
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I don't hang around mate, I'm 40, and considering your reply I'll presume you're 12, the LOOK of iOS is fresh and clean. Im sorry but Lollipop is muddy and bland.
Wow I managed to get that out without calling you a ****....... Oops no there it is.
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You actually did well up until that last part where you ultimately ended up insulting him. -5pts for boasting about not calling him a ****, another -5pts for turning around and calling him a **** in the end, and -10pts for stating that you're 40.
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I really became accustomed to bln on the captivate and it is the only feature I miss.
Is there a way to port that to the note? I am willing to learn how if someone would point me in the right direction.
I know that there are apps that will do similar things but they seem to drain the battery and I would rather have something built in.
Thanks
Flapjaxxx - AOSPxXx - v0.3A
AndrewKnow said:
I really became accustomed to bln on the captivate and it is the only feature I miss.
Is there a way to port that to the note? I am willing to learn how if someone would point me in the right direction.
I know that there are apps that will do similar things but they seem to drain the battery and I would rather have something built in.
Thanks
Flapjaxxx - AOSPxXx - v0.3A
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I'm no expert, but I believe you have to have a kernal that supports BLN. Since we have no kernal source, my guess would be that it would be a little difficult if not impossible. I could be wrong though.
I had BLN on a GB rom but not on any ICS rom
That's what I was wondering.
I will wait then.
Thanks.
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I will wait then.
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Seriously? You could have BLN in 15mins, but you'll wait indefinitely just to keep some half baked version of ICS???
Are you guys feeling peer pressured to have ICS? Bragging rights? Is that how the kids are competiting these days, who has the best phone with the best OS? Man times are really changing. Back in my day we used to compete with who was the fastest or who could beat who 1v1 [insert applicable sport], or who had the hottest girlfriend.
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Seriously? You could have BLN in 15mins, but you'll wait indefinitely just to keep some half baked version of ICS???
Are you guys feeling peer pressured to have ICS? Bragging rights? Is that how the kids are competiting these days, who has the best phone with the best OS? Man times are really changing. Back in my day we used to compete with who was the fastest or who could beat who 1v1 [insert applicable sport], or who had the hottest girlfriend.
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I think what he/ she is saying that for his/ her specific needs BLN does not outweigh all of the potential attributes from ICS. However, who has the hottest girlfriend is still very important
Ph0n3D0rk said:
I think what he/ she is saying that for his/ her specific needs BLN does not outweigh all of the potential attributes from ICS. However, who has the hottest girlfriend is still very important
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Well I was hoping I could provoke he/she to enlighten me on those attributes... I challenge thee to do so w/o the use of such words as "amazing", "buttery" and "silky".
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However, who has the hottest girlfriend is still very important
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Glad to hear it, carry on... :good:
"Half baked"?
Lolz complaining noobz that don't contribute to the community... this whole site is about development, which goes hand in hand at having the latest firmware...
If you want an os that "just works" go get an iPhone and stop trolling
Oh and how about, built from Google source and not having any of that bloated touch wiz crap as a reason to be on ics?
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"Half baked"?
Lolz complaining noobz that don't contribute to the community... this whole site is about development, which goes hand in hand at having the latest firmware...
If you want an os that "just works" go get an iPhone and stop trolling
Oh and how about, built from Google source and not having any of that bloated touch wiz crap as a reason to be on ics?
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Simmer down, sheesh. I didn't say anything about custom ROMs being half baked, I mean the leaks. There has been like 5 in a month, so to me that means each one is adding to/fixing the previous one. And how am I trolling? I'm starting to get confused about what that even means. And who said anything about iPhones! Dude said he missed his Captivate... You are way off base buddy. Chill out, its Friday. Why you mad?
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Oh and how about, built from Google source and not having any of that bloated touch wiz crap as a reason to be on ics?
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Nope, not good enough for me. I just freeze all that stuff and use a different launcher.
You can't freeze tw..It's a huge huge huge part of the stock os.
400+mb/tw Rom
Under 200mb/aosp Rom...
All that bloat is hogging resources...period.
And if you had read..the op is running aosp from flapjaxx...Not a leak.
I'm not mad..You went on a rant for someone's personal preferences...
AOSP... that means he doesn't have S Pen? I didn't know that was considered bloat.
s pen works to register touch, only thing that doesn't work is the navigation you can do with the button and gestures...which personally i never used before they didn't work...
Again...this is a development forum, with a plethora of choices, if it's not for you then is not for you. just don't dog on people that have different taste.
So no screen shots with the pen and/or writing on said screenshot?
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@AndrewKnow
If you feel I was "dogging" on you, then I apologize for questioning your decision to forgo BLN for ICS. I understand its your decision, I just would like to know what factors bring you to that conclusion... I ask b/c you and I both seem to value BLN, so I suspect your way of thinking is closer to mine than someone who feels BLN is useless.
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Seriously? You could have BLN in 15mins, but you'll wait indefinitely just to keep some half baked version of ICS???
Are you guys feeling peer pressured to have ICS? Bragging rights? Is that how the kids are competiting these days, who has the best phone with the best OS?.
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All the girls at ATT get wet when they see my phones.
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So no screen shots with the pen and/or writing on said screenshot?
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@AndrewKnow
If you feel I was "dogging" on you, then I apologize for questioning your decision to forgo BLN for ICS. I understand its your decision, I just would like to know what factors bring you to that conclusion... I ask b/c you and I both seem to value BLN, so I suspect your way of thinking is closer to mine than someone who feels BLN is useless.
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I didn't realize this thread got so exciting.
I do consider BLN useful. However I like a very sleek, smooth, minimal, rom that I can use on a daily basis. I have not seen nor have I really looked for a gingerbread AOSP rom.
The first rom I flashed was a flapjaxxx rom and have followed his work since.
Now lets all move on.
Nothing to see here.
By the way, in CM9 RC1 (hotwire's release) under settings>advanced there's a setting "enable keys notifications: light up tough keys when screen is off, and a notification is received".
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By the way, in CM9 RC1 (hotwire's release) under settings>advanced there's a setting "enable keys notifications: light up tough keys when screen is off, and a notification is received".
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Yea, there is that option in flapjaxxx aosp as well but its a port from another phone (don't recall which one) and doesn't seem to work.
If it works for you then let me know and I will try it out.
Thanks
It's from the galaxy nexus...the flagship ics device.
So it's what aosp was built on initially.
I am seriously considering getting the OG for my next phone. Only one thing worries me, and that is the development community. I have been burned before (HTC Vivid) by buying what looks like a great phone, only to get no support from the dev community. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Do you think the devs are going to come, or is the draw of the N4 too great?
argolfermd said:
I am seriously considering getting the OG for my next phone. Only one thing worries me, and that is the development community. I have been burned before (HTC Vivid) by buying what looks like a great phone, only to get no support from the dev community. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Do you think the devs are going to come, or is the draw of the N4 too great?
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Well, obviously the dev community is here to the extent that Team CodeFire has successfully unlocked the bootloader. There is also a modified stock ROM available (which I am happily using). We should also be expecting AOSP 4.2 pretty soon (heard rumors of possibly this Friday). While there aren't many ROM options at the moment, the dev community is definitely present and I believe it's only a matter of time before we start seeing more support.
I am seriously hoping that the N4 base is able to be easily ported over as mentioned. This would make this phone a Nexus 4 but with LTE and SD!!
Honestly though, I feel LG really has a nice UI on top compared to Sense and TouchWiz.
I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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Hell I've changed phones 10 times this year.
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I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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Yeah dude get the og
the best phone ever
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I came from vivid too
the best phone ever
Take this with a grain of salt: as in I hold no liability for this point of view.
The Captivate had identical hardware to the Nexus S and it *STILL* has a strong dev community. There is more that goes into that than just devs but, the similar hardware helps loads.
The phone despite have a very low number of devs still has an unlocked bootloader and I feel safe in saying the devs who are here are fairly high quality.
Even if we never attract a large number of devs/users the reality is we are in a beautiful spot compared to a lot of other devices right now.
It's also important to keep in mind our numbers can still grow big time. The more users we get, the more interested devs we get, the more we all benefit.
And being honest.. if you go play with the phone in store.. you probably will walk out with it... It's really, really, nice. I mean the other phones in store didn't hold a candle to it at bestbuy or at&t.
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Take this with a grain of salt: as in I hold no liability for this point of view.
The Captivate had identical hardware to the Nexus S and it *STILL* has a strong dev community. There is more that goes into that than just devs but, the similar hardware helps loads.
The phone despite have a very low number of devs still has an unlocked bootloader and I feel safe in saying the devs who are here are fairly high quality.
Even if we never attract a large number of devs/users the reality is we are in a beautiful spot compared to a lot of other devices right now.
It's also important to keep in mind our numbers can still grow big time. The more users we get, the more interested devs we get, the more we all benefit.
And being honest.. if you go play with the phone in store.. you probably will walk out with it... It's really, really, nice. I mean the other phones in store didn't hold a candle to it at bestbuy or at&t.
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I did want to NOT like this phone - mainly because it's an LG. But it's stupidly fast and smooth. If we see AOSP 4.2 or CM 10.1 on this beast it will be unstoppable! :cyclops:
I was hell bent on getting the Note 2 for weeks; the day I went to get one, I walked out with the OG and I have no regrets. LGs UI is a welcome change and will tide me over until the custom roms show up.
You totally should get the phone as is. Even with no further dev support. You have root, unlocked bootloader, and the stock rom debloated with tether functionality restored.
There is nothing you can't do with the stock rom. And when Jellybean comes out from LG, it will be debloated again. So even if you don't want the nexus rom or cyanogenmod (you'd be crazy not too), it's the best phone out right now. Even better than the Nexus 4.
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Infekxion said:
I was hell bent on getting the Note 2 for weeks; the day I went to get one, I walked out with the OG and I have no regrets. LGs UI is a welcome change and will tide me over until the custom roms show up.
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I was seriously wanting the Note II as well because the huge screen but this UI I feels MUCH better then TouchWiz and hardware wise it is an absolute beast. Not to say the Note II isn't fast but nothing is touching this device right now. This phone is screaming fast just imagine when it gets 4.1 or 4.2!
I just couldn't go for the Nexus 4 since it seriously lacks storage space. 8 or 16GB with no SD??? C'MON! Hell, I just installed The Bard's Tale and selected the HD pack and it took up 3.5GB on it's own. Missing LTE even further drives the nail down.
Unfortunately, most people outside of hardware geeks don't know how amazing this beast of a phone is. Then half the one who are hardware gurus are scared because its an LG. I convinced the guy next to me at work to pick up the Sprint version. He absolutely loves it too.
I would use the upgrade that I have on Att.. but the Dev community is very important to have... Only time will tell.. watching with great interest.
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I was microscopically close to pulling the trigger on the SG3 when I decided last minute to get the OG. Never regretted it for a second and I'm still bone stock.
Looking to get this as well It's down to the N4 or this. Really want LTE. Badly. But don't want to get screwed over for dev community, but I highly doubt that will happen. AOSP ROMs are on their way, undoubtedly.
from what i was told with small modifications n4 roms will run just fine on the lgog also. so that opens up way more possibilities if that is true
This is definitely one of the best devices currently since it runs buttery smooth even on ICS. 4.1/2 or CM will make this device unbelievable.
Talked my brother into getting one. He ordered his optimus g today and it was back ordered (The s3 disappeared from amazon for att days ago, probably why.) so im gonna go out on a limb and assume we will get some more people working in here in the near future.
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Honestly though, I feel LG really has a nice UI on top compared to Sense and TouchWiz.
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Agreed. It's almost like they just took AOSP & tweaked it juuuuuust a little bit. I actually like it.
Thanks for all of the great advice. I think you guys have me convinced. Friday is the day, if I can find it locally for $99.
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Thanks for all of the great advice. I think you guys have me convinced. Friday is the day, if I can find it locally for $99.
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Bestbuy will price match Amazon. You should check them out. I got mine on Saturday at BB and they had plenty of stock.
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Hey guys, I am not sure if many over here know me, or if those that knew me are still around. But it'd be cool to see a few familiar faces again. I am back, after a long time. Not saying I will be checking in regularly, as I got busy IRL, but it'd be nice to see some familiar names there...
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Hey guys, I am not sure if many over here know me, or if those that knew me are still around. But it'd be cool to see a few familiar faces again. I am back, after a long time. Not saying I will be checking in regularly, as I got busy IRL, but it'd be nice to see some familiar names there...
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Well, howdy, LT! It's been a while. How's it going? You can't see my face, but if you look to the left, you can see my avatar
Are you still using the Dinc4g? I'm still quite content with mine. Nothing out there has me in the least bit excited to go to anything else. A co-worker has the new M8. Nice specs, but that sucker's HUGE.
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Well, howdy, LT! It's been a while. How's it going? You can't see my face, but if you look to the left, you can see my avatar
Are you still using the Dinc4g? I'm still quite content with mine. Nothing out there has me in the least bit excited to go to anything else. A co-worker has the new M8. Nice specs, but that sucker's HUGE.
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Yup! I am still with the Dinc4G alright. It is sweet, and running latest CM 11, 4.4.2 KitKat. This is definitely the best phone I have had so far. Sure not the best out there, but pretty good. And the only phone (of the 3 I had so far) that can run CM almost bug free (apart from rare reboots). So I am quite content.
But later this year, when the new Nexus is out, I will be jumping ship to AT&T and get on the Nexus train!
Btw, I may actually go to AT&T before getting the nexus. Will the Dinc4G work with AT&T? It is a world phone, so it has all the bands right? I used it once in India with the local (Airtel) network and it worked... I dunno
Wow... It has been over 1.5 years since I had this phone, and I hardly noticed! That is a sign of a good phone folks! No needs to gets the latest and greatest y'all! I am very happy with this phone, so happy that I stopped bothering updating CM for a long time, since last July/August and only recently updated to 4.3 (April) and then updated to 4.4.2 yesterday! Call me lazy but CM 10.2.1 with Jellybean 4.2 was quite good!
I added you on G+
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I added you on G+
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Thanks, I added you back. But alas I do not use G+. I just use FB. No matter how hard Google tries none of my friends are using G+ too much, and one of them even works for Google! LOL! :laugh:
SO sad... these forums feel like a ghost town! No one messing with this phone anymore or what?
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SO sad... these forums feel like a ghost town! No one messing with this phone anymore or what?
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Yeah. It's pretty quiet. My guess is that those of us who still use it have settled in nicely with their ROM of choice and are happy as can be. Based on your post above, I'm tempted to try the CM with KitKat, but I'm still quite happy with ViperLTE... Hmm. Maybe tomorrow
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Yeah. It's pretty quiet. My guess is that those of us who still use it have settled in nicely with their ROM of choice and are happy as can be. Based on your post above, I'm tempted to try the CM with KitKat, but I'm still quite happy with ViperLTE... Hmm. Maybe tomorrow
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I personally don't use this phone anymore, but I passed mine to my daughter and I keep it updated with the latest cm11 even nightlies still... Old habits lol
It's really smooth and makes me miss this device
Just letting you know, it's been rumored that the nexus line is dead now. I don't know if they will continue with the GPE devices. The GPE devices are just as good as the nexus in my opinion. Just a different name. The HTC One M8 has a GPE on their site.
apart from that ... fireball isn't completely dead (with regards to dev'ing) yet ... just the most recent dev work (kernel & rom) updates are still "behind the scenes" in coding and testing => before another release
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Yay! People woke up and responded to this thread. :victory: I doubt the nexus line is dead, as it is quite a popular device, slowly gaining more traction and often sold out online. My brother told me the next Nexus device is rumored to be 5.5 inches big so I dunno. It seems odd that it will be killed off, although it is just as strange that they have not released an upgraded model for the Nexus 10. It is soo difficult to tell with Google as they are so fickle, quick with axing services and products. Hope the nexus lineup continues or at least Google Play Editions continue, it makes little sense to kill it off as it is one of Google's answer to fragmentation.
I am soon jumping ship to AT&T so that I can finally pick Google Play edition/Nexus phones! But I believe this rock solid phone being a global phone can work on AT&T? At least get 3G? What is the catch there?
litetaker said:
I am soon jumping ship to AT&T so that I can finally pick Google Play edition/Nexus phones! But I believe this rock solid phone being a global phone can work on AT&T? At least get 3G? What is the catch there?
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using it on another carrier _should_ be no prob, just set-up your APNs accordingly. but as for the radio:
* 4G LTE is (unfortunately) 700MHz _only_! (even if the chip itself is 4G multiband capable) = so NO worldwide usable 4G LTE >.<
* 3.5G / HSPA modes are rather instable so that it usually falls-back to regular 3G from my experience
* but those regular 3G as well as all 2.5G etc modes (GPRS / EDGE) are really stable and good for whatever usage.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/0...e-for-new-android-silver-program-says-report/ may or may not be true, aside from that Kimba99 is doing a good job on Sense Roms. He's been working on it nearly everyday! Good job bud!
Huawei informed us last year that they'll be releasing Lollipop in the second quarter of 2015. 5 months and 3 days have already passed and if wasn't for a glimpse they provided some months ago, I would have found it difficult that our HAM2 will ever be updated.
I received my 1+1 about a month ago and tried Lollipop on it. I am not particularly impressed by Lollipop. I had to reinstall kitkat. Lollipop is over-simplified and has lots of white.
Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Clearly, Huawei is slow at deploying Lollipop. That is true. It sounds like you really don't care though. You seem to prefer KitKat. Not sure why you started this thread.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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Huawei had promised to release Kitkat. They retracted. Then they promised Lollipop. Even though I'm not a Lollipop fan, it provides the option of having the latest android OS on your phone. So, there's no harm in that.
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I got ya. I agree. I am still hopeful they release Lollipop soon. They aren't the best at this kind of stuff though. Their track record is fairly poor related to supporting existing devices. I think they are trying to be better, though. Time will tell.
Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
I asked them on Instagram and got the usual "Thank you, we don't know anything, we'll tell you something when nothing does everything." kind of comment.
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Android L is meant to be released on the Asian Mate 2's on July 2nd. I think it is unlikely that it will be released for the US version before this, but if it doesn't come out for you guys on the 2nd July, I would contact Huawei and moan like Hell. Unfortunately I have seen NOTHING about a release date for the MT2-L03.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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The Asian HAM2 is a completely different phone internally, there is no reason to believe the development paths or release schedules would be in any way similar for both devices.
After over half a year of vague promises (and a worthless 'beta program' website) from Huawei USA I wouldn't expect an upgrade to Lollipop for the MT2-L03 - I honestly think they were just stringing everyone along and trying to quieten the uproar among HAM2 users that was happening at the time. I'm hoping I'm wrong, but I bet I'm not.
In the meantime I'm still trucking along on my HAM2, but I am looking at possible replacements. Most notably the new Alcatel Idol 3 looks really really impressive for the price.
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Yes, thanks. I'm well aware that they have different hardware.
I said to moan as US customers were told an update would be released in the first quarter of the year..... That hasn't happened.
I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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I'll get flamed again, but even if they did release an update, it would be hard for me to upgrade unless some feature of software took advantage of the update. 4.3 WORKS. Turn it on and use it, don't have to reboot it. Yes, if there are security bugs, that's one thing, but if your device works as delivered, I'm more of a leave it alone, new doesn't always mean better, just new type of person.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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Man, the main theme of all your posts is "4.3 is GREAT". In fact, all your posts contain the same information in different wording. We have UNDERSTOOD your preference. I don't understand why you keep repeating it. Its a little bit tactless to be repeating the same post in every thread.
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He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
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He said he'd get flamed. At least he wasn't disappointed.
There isn't a ton of activity in this forum so I think we can tolerate multiple posts from p51d007.
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Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
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Flame away...I was a volunteer 911 operator for over a dozen years...been flamed by the best of em. :good:
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I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
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I've got the latest and greatest lollipop on my nexus 7, I've also got a rooted samsung s3 that has a custom ROM on it. But I must say this phone
the mate 2 is by far my favorite, the battery life is unreal, love the big bright screen. It may not be the latest and greatest but for me it is a great phone.
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I actually bought the 1+1 after reading rave reviews about it almost everywhere. I initially intended to keep the 1+1 and give my dad my HAM2. For some reason, the mate 2 was too good to give up. It has everything I want in a phone; large screen, very long battery life, fast, smooth transitions and most importantly it doesn't get hot like a stove. Anyway, at the end, I kept the HAM2 and gave my dad the 1+1. Seriously, I gave up the 1+1 with all its laudatory specs for the HAM2 and I have no regrets.
This phone's screen is too freaking big for me. I already have a tablet, don't need another one thanks. Unfortunately I can't afford to upgrade it right now so I'm stuck with it. And now Xposed broke so now I'm stuck with the ugly grey nav bar and enormous DPI. (EDIT: Nvm, I fixed that.) Seriously, why did Huawei artificially raise the DPI, the native 240 looks so much better than the stock 320, makes everything look much smaller and crisper and gives you more real estate.
I just want Lollipop. Then I'll see if it's worth keeping this phone or if I should make upgrading a priority.
At least the battery life is nice, but that's about all I can say is going for this phone, and I'm willing to bet in part that's because of the lower res (720p) screen.
http://bgr.com/2016/06/02/2016-google-nexus-phones/
This could be good or bad.
It could be bad and me might have something like Samsung or LG and never get updates. (however, i dont think it will come to this as i feel that would take almost everything that makes a nexus a "nexus")
It could be good and the "Nexus" line might turn into something more along the lines of "Google Play Edition" or more like a Moto X style rom.
To me this makes much more sense. We still get the essence of pure android with a few cool tweaks.
If this were to be the case the number 1 thing i hope that comes out of it is that the OEM would provide the camera app instead of the garbage one Google has.
This was such the case with the HTC One M7 Google Play Edition (or was it an M8?)
And with HTC rumored to make the next set of Nexus phones we might just get that. Hopefully they dont use a garbage sensor though like HTC has recently been known to do.
What do you guys think this could mean?
We don't run "stock Android" now. All that article means is that the stock rom on Nexus phones will get more built in features.
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Nexus phones aren't selling well so they need something to give them more selling power. The average consumer sees Samsung phones etc with "amazing" feature so will buy that over a Nexus. The fact Google tried to market the 6P more at the mainstream shows that they're truing to get away from a developer type of phone and more features in the software shows this.Im not entirely happy with this, I'd rather have a pure Android phone and be able to the devs cook something better up rather than have a phone with unnecessary features which ultimately slow it down.
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We don't run "stock Android" now. All that article means is that the stock rom on Nexus phones will get more built in features.
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This.
I welcome new, proprietary features in Google's Android. I trust them not to bog down the OS like other OEM's do. After all, it's their OS.
This is great news and what might bring me back to a Nexus phone in the future. Stock Android is way too boring and feature thin imo. I definitely wouldn't mind features added by Google all while not bogging it down and keeping it lean.
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This is great news and what might bring me back to a Nexus phone in the future. Stock Android is way too boring and feature thin imo. I definitely wouldn't mind features added by Google all while not bogging it down and keeping it lean.
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Uhh how about no. The reason I stick with Nexus phones is for the pure android experience. This just says they don't understand their customer base at all, and are instead focused on the people who buy other phones (let them have their other phones).
Read this. It will help explain. Nexus phones are Google's Android complete with their proprietary apps and services. I happen to love it, but it is what it is.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/06/02/its-time-to-let-the-phrase-stock-android-die-opinion/
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Uhh how about no. The reason I stick with Nexus phones is for the pure android experience. This just says they don't understand their customer base at all, and are instead focused on the people who buy other phones (let them have their other phones).
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I don't see it that way at all. I just see this as the next step in the evolution of android. Naturally more and more features are added. The current form of android is much more feature packed than, say, the version that came on the galaxy nexus and previous. Those earlier versions didn't even have quick settings tiles, even though the galaxy s phones did. Would you prefer to be that way still? I sure as hell couldn't do without QS in the drop down. So, if you prefer having those over not having them, then you need to accept the next step. Besides, quick settings are one of MANY features added since the start. Go back to an unmodified galaxy nexus, I'm sure you would hate it after having what you have now. Face it, features get added as the OS matures.
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I don't see it that way at all. I just see this as the next step in the evolution of android. Naturally more and more features are added. The current form of android is much more feature packed than, say, the version that came on the galaxy nexus and previous. Those earlier versions didn't even have quick settings tiles, even though the galaxy s phones did. Would you prefer to be that way still? I sure as hell couldn't do without QS in the drop down. So, if you prefer having those over not having them, then you need to accept the next step. Besides, quick settings are one of MANY features added since the start. Go back to an unmodified galaxy nexus, I'm sure you would hate it after having what you have now. Face it, features get added as the OS matures.
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Right but those are now base features of stock Marshmallow. What I don't want is Google building their own Touchwiz or something else that only the Nexus phones get. That's hardly what I see as the answer. I hate what Samsung, LG, etc. do to the OS on their phones. But I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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Read this. It will help explain. Nexus phones are Google's Android complete with their proprietary apps and services. I happen to love it, but it is what it is.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/06/02/its-time-to-let-the-phrase-stock-android-die-opinion/
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Interesting article, but it seems more like a semantics issue than anything. I guess I fall into the group of "Stock Android" meaning as shipped on the Nexus phone by Google. But specifically in that it felt basically functional versus flashy and bloated like the rest of the manufacturers tend to shoot for. I don't want iOS, I don't want Touchwiz, I don't want any of the other variants. So to me it's like AOSP and Stock Android have blended and become synonymous to me. *shrugs*
I really think you're reading way too much into this. All the article says is that Google will be thoughtfully adding more features. Four years ago the quick settings tiles would have been one of these new features. Two years ago the fingerprint reader would have been one of these new features. This year with Android N multi-screen will be one of these new features. These have all been steps forward for Android, adding functionality and improving the UX. Adding new features doesn't mean they're going to add a skin or some of the bloaty crap that Samsung add, it just means new features.
This thread is just a huge facepalm..
Really if Google wants to slap a custom skin over stock android then who am I to care? Google always designs their devices to be customisable. So say you don't like it then you could flash a custom ROM built off of AOSP and you have what you wanted.
The Nexus line has always been built more for the developer crowd, but I have a feeling they're trying to reach out to your average consumer by adding "Features" while still appealing to the developers with the openness that they've always had.
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These assumptions don't make sense and you are reading too much into it. A custom skin? After all the money they spent and researching and developing Material Design? They won't change anything, they will add new features as times goes one. Android N is already an example of this. The design paradigm will change eventually, it will be an evolution to Material Design, just like Material Design succeeded Holo.
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There's always custom ROMs, as long as the bootloader's still easy to unlock who cares if they add more to stock rom, people will always create custom ROMs. If you don't know how to unlock and install a custom ROM then maybe a nexus just isn't for you.
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These assumptions don't make sense and you are reading too much into it. A custom skin? After all the money they spent and researching and developing Material Design? They won't change anything, they will add new features as times goes one. Android N is already an example of this. The design paradigm will change eventually, it will be an evolution to Material Design, just like Material Design succeeded Holo.
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The next change will be a huge one. Too many people complaining about the way MD looks. Even app developers are starting to refuse to use the MD guidelines. Can't say I blame them when people would rather pirate older versions instead of using the MD versions.
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There's always custom ROMs, as long as the bootloader's still easy to unlock who cares if they add more to stock rom, people will always create custom ROMs. If you don't know how to unlock and install a custom ROM then maybe a nexus just isn't for you.
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I wouldn't count on there always being roms. Google has even began not pushing fixes to aosp. Many developers are seeing this. Google will fix something in the release builds but never updating the code to aosp. So aosp stays broken.
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The next change will be a huge one. Too many people complaining about the way MD looks. Even app developers are starting to refuse to use the MD guidelines. Can't say I blame them when people would rather pirate older versions instead of using the MD versions.
I wouldn't count on there always being roms. Google has even began not pushing fixes to aosp. Many developers are seeing this. Google will fix something in the release builds but never updating the code to aosp. So aosp stays broken.
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Sources? That's doesn't seem right to me. MD apps are increasing day by day. If anything, only a niche of people complain about MD, and not because they don't like it, but because they tend to prefer apps not to change the design they have been used to for ages. Recently even Google said Material Design is being adopted at a really fast rate. It won't change any time soon, that is certain.
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Sources? That's doesn't seem right to me. MD apps are increasing day by day. If anything, only a niche of people complain about MD, and not because they don't like it, but because they tend to prefer apps not to change the design they have been used to for ages. Recently even Google said Material Design is being adopted at a really fast rate. It won't change any time soon, that is certain.
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Go look at the Google groups. The people that don't like it just really don't like it. It's not that they don't want things to change. MD is a running joke that people say should have a fisher price copyright to it lol
Me personally. I don't update any app that updates to the MD guidelines. I have like 15 apps with updates that will never be updated
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Go look at the Google groups. The people that don't like it just really don't like it. It's not that they don't want things to change. MD is a running joke that people say should have a fisher price copyright to it lol
Me personally. I don't update any app that updates to the MD guidelines. I have like 15 apps with updates that will never be updated
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So basically less than probably 1% of the users? Good joke. Luckily you aren't a designer and MD is growing faster than ever.
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So basically less than probably 1% of the users? Good joke. Luckily you aren't a designer and MD is growing faster than ever.
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Well considering the people here are the same percentage that mod their devices that is alot of people. I wouldnt call anyone that uses MD a designer. Not hard to find inspiration from a pre-K kids class lol.
I make my own themes and theme the apps on my phone so I personally dont have to worry about MD at all.
Its nots a surprise that alot of people like it. When their first thought of a phone is getting 5hr SOT (losers lol) and their first device was an iphone. What I and many devs find funny is that people were making fun of apple with the fruity design and yet its ok for google. And people wonder why devs dont take the average person seriously.
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Well considering the people here are the same percentage that mod their devices that is alot of people. I wouldnt call anyone that uses MD a designer. Not hard to find inspiration from a pre-K kids class lol.
I make my own themes and theme the apps on my phone so I personally dont have to worry about MD at all.
Its nots a surprise that alot of people like it. When their first thought of a phone is getting 5hr SOT (losers lol) and their first device was an iphone. What I and many devs find funny is that people were making fun of apple with the fruity design and yet its ok for google. And people wonder why devs dont take the average person seriously.
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Bollocks. Care to show some of these themes you make? lol
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Bollocks. Care to show some of these themes you make? lol
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You can find them around. They are all for personal use and I only share them with a few other devs and users on the site. Just have a look for Zelendel and gotham and you will find some older ones easy enough.
I never share my themes with normal users for reasons.