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Hey all!
Sorry if this has been asked before (I've seen posts about it but no straight answers on the issue).
I have a brand new T-Mobile Amaze and a brand new Wind Mobile Amaze. Long story about why!
I can't decide which to keep. I like the fact that Winds is unbranded. I would probably like to use the wifi calling feature on the T-Mobile one when I visit the US (I spend 5 months in the US and the rest of the year in Canada). I don't think I want to root this phone....am undecided right now. The thing that bothers me though, is the camera program on the Wind Mobile version. It's completely different and I like the T-Mobile one better. If I DID decide to root, could I get the T-mobile camera on the Wind one? And then, how would wifi calling work?
Sorry, I'm a newb who is not savvy about any of this stuff....
Any help would be appreciated
Also, I read something a while back, that the bands are different between the two versions. Is this true?
Thanks in advance! CHEERS!
I'm no pro and please correct me anyone if i'm wrong but yes. the bands are different, which is why there are different RUU's for the telus, tmos, wind etc amazes.
I'm pretty sure if you kept your wind mobile one and then followed the procedure to root the device, you'll be able to use the ROM's that we have on XDA and then in my opinion that would give you the camera from the T-mobile one (most likely unless it's been changed) - but yeah don't hold me 100% accountable for this.
You can flash a T-Mobile based ROM onto the WIND's Amaze. With this, you will get the camera interface from the T-Mobile Amaze. I'm not sure about WiFi calling since I never use it - actually I don't even know if WIND has WiFi calling on their network.
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
Thanks for the replies
Hmmmm, I may think about rooting after all....I am looking at both the T-Mobile and the Wind site....
T-Mobile Amaze:
850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (1700/2100);UMTS: Band V (850)
Wind Amaze:
3G (UMTS/HSPA) AWS 1700/2100 2G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) 850/1900/900/1800
They look like the same bands to me. (??) I really like the unbranded Wind one. I'm not sure if I would ever use wifi calling when I had the phone in the US. Could I potentially add the T-Mobile wifi calling to a rooted Wind Amaze do you think?
Thanks so much once again. Sorry for the dummy questions....!
Wind's Amaze bands are (from the box, and I have verified that I could connect to both T-mobile and AT&T bands while in the states):
HSPA 850/1700/1900/2100.
GSM 850/900/1800/1900.
Kernels from Faux do work on the Wind Amaze (at least, they did for me when I was running custom).
morrislee said:
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
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Ohhh I had no idea....
Well I guess that makes things easier for me
Thanks everyone once again!
morrislee said:
Keep the t mobile one, wind one is not yet compatible with the kernels supplied by custom ROMs for now. Means anything with faux kernel
I know it says compatible with all the htc amaze on the kernel page but it is not for the Wind
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I don't know what you're talking about, but Faux kernel works fine with my WIND Amaze.
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I don't know what you're talking about, but Faux kernel works fine with my WIND Amaze.
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Your videos work fine after? camera still work???? maybe you have a slightly different variant, but recent batch seems to be incompatible.
Hmmm, now I REALLY don't know what to do! I guess I will keep the T-Mobile one since I have already been tinkering with it...that keeps the Wind Mobile one brand new so I can resell it! I suppose I can be a girly girl and put some swarovski crytals over the darned T-Mobile branding!
Now, next step is to find out how to get the wifi hotspot working. Have been reading up on this. May be easier just to root it.
If I unlock it and use it on Wind, would the wifi hotspot work without rooting it?
Thanks again everyone
if i was you i would keep the wind one ... why? because the tmobile branding is a HUGE turnoff when you are looking at your screen (sorry americans!) They are generally the same device just with no branding, you could push an apk to your system folder or apps cant remember and it should work as long as you have a t-mobile sim card. In canada we do not have wifi calling so it wouldnt working here (duh!) Good luck with your pick! what i would suggest be the breaking point is check if either device has S-OFF if it does you could sell it to a developer (possible a little cheaper so they can start making roms and try to achieve s-off in all other devices.) Good luck with your pick, basically theyre both the same device.
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if i was you i would keep the wind one ... why? because the tmobile branding is a HUGE turnoff when you are looking at your screen (sorry americans!) They are generally the same device just with no branding, you could push an apk to your system folder or apps cant remember and it should work as long as you have a t-mobile sim card. In canada we do not have wifi calling so it wouldnt working here (duh!) Good luck with your pick! what i would suggest be the breaking point is check if either device has S-OFF if it does you could sell it to a developer (possible a little cheaper so they can start making roms and try to achieve s-off in all other devices.) Good luck with your pick, basically theyre both the same device.
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Heya!
Ok, so they are the same device exactly....hmmm. So, wifi calling isn't as a big deal as the camera software. I want to make sure I could for SURE have the T-Mobile Camera on the Wind phone. And if I root the Wind one, I am assuming the start up animation can be changed. The Wind one is lame. T-Mobile one is much better;-)
I am not sure what S-Off is....but can you tell me how to check for that?
Thanks a bunch!
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Heya!
Ok, so they are the same device exactly....hmmm. So, wifi calling isn't as a big deal as the camera software. I want to make sure I could for SURE have the T-Mobile Camera on the Wind phone. And if I root the Wind one, I am assuming the start up animation can be changed. The Wind one is lame. T-Mobile one is much better;-)
I am not sure what S-Off is....but can you tell me how to check for that?
Thanks a bunch!
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you have to boot into bootloader (by removing battery then - pressing volume down and holding it down and then press power button (you should keep pressing both power + volume until you get into bootloader.) if you install a custom rom like bulletproof or sense 3.5 you will get The new Camera APK and bulletproof has wifi calling included good luck!
I don't know why people keep saying that T-Mobile and Wind are different bands.
You do realize that the reason why Wind doesn't get different phones from T-Mobile is because they use the same bands, right?
If the phone doesn't work on T-Mobile's standard 3g+ network (AWS) it won't work on Wind, and vice-versa.
The only thing you need to worry about it is it being sim-unlocked.
The different RUUs only exist because of carrier customization and locking. Wind's Amaze RUU is pretty much stock without the extra bloat of T-Mobile Apps. But of course, the T-Mobile RUU also has the updated camera function, unlike Wind's.
Also, that's the first I've heard about Wind Amaze's having problems with faux's kernel. FYI my Wind Amaze's camera works fine on faux's latest kernel and NRG's Energy ROM (and xboarder's when I used his). However, mine was manufactured in November, so YMMV.
Actually youre a bit wrong on that, T-Mobile does support 2G network so any phone with 2G bands (such as iphone or galaxy note) will work on T-Mobile Network with 2G Internet Speeds. And the RUUs are made for the carrier specific device so if you want to revert stock always use ur own carriers RUU!
I know, that's why I mentioned the standard 3g+ AWS network. If it doesn't work on the 3g network on T-mobile, it won't work on Wind's Home network which uses the same 1700/2100 band (also why people tend to buy T-mobile phones and use them on Wind's network).
And yes, reverting to stock using the same RUU is a good idea. However, from my experience with Motorola's SBFs, they are interchangable among the same device. Because Wind didn't have a publicly leaked SBF, we've been using other carrier's SBFs without problems when reverting to "near" stock.
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I know, that's why I mentioned the standard 3g+ AWS network. If it doesn't work on the 3g network on T-mobile, it won't work on Wind's Home network which uses the same 1700/2100 band (also why people tend to buy T-mobile phones and use them on Wind's network).
And yes, reverting to stock using the same RUU is a good idea. However, from my experience with Motorola's SBFs, they are interchangable among the same device. Because Wind didn't have a publicly leaked SBF, we've been using other carrier's SBFs without problems when reverting to "near" stock.
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Ahh... another unsatisfied XT720 user. ;p
Accophox said:
Ahh... another unsatisfied XT720 user. ;p
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Hohoho, you've caught me. (So many random freezes/battery pulls)
Now I'm a mostly satisfied Amaze user. Just need to wait for those new ICS ROMs.
Also, quick reading for those who are still confused about radio bands / if it will work on your network.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthr...ne-Will-Work-With-WIND-(or-Any-Other-Carrier)
i still dont know why tmobile version is the only one that have all those camera features, the wind version of the Amaze have the old camera UI like the sensation does, but im sure there should be a flashable zip for the camera like tmobile amaze version is.
anyone that had the sensation 4g knows what im talking about
i dont know if the same flash zip file from the sensation works or not, im not a pro but i figure it wont cause its made to work with the sensation,
another thing guys, they have a blueray feature for the camera when recording, you guys think it can be port over to the amaze?
If you rooted your phone, I have the tmo camera apk for you.
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Like many Canadians today, I was happy to finally receive my official update to ICS. Actually, I was happier the day before when I learned that Google had released source code for ICS on our phone. Like many, I had intended to jump into the custom rom scene after the marvelous Devs in these forums have had a chance to cook up roms in a fully stocked kitchen.
Should Canadians be concerned that the official baseband, modems, kernals for ICS bear different identifiers than the AT&T ones?
I have always been concerned that there doesn't seem to be a dedicated forum for Canadian carrier Galaxy Notes. Until now, I have bought into the idea that all North American Galaxy Notes are the same hardware. This diversion in modem naming has me concerned.
I would eventually like my Bell Mobility Note to have a rom that has all the S pen functionality of stock with some of the upgraded Voice features from the S3. Most importantly, I need it to work flawlessly with the LTE network in the Toronto area.
I had high hopes for team perfections rom but recent developments have me wondering if it's future development will be AT&T centric....
I'm on a rogers note in Vancouver and i've run many different roms with at&t modems fine. It comes down to your APN settings but i'm currently running the June 28th version and it's been very solid. I've tried 3 different at&t modems over the last month and had no issues with speed on LTE.
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I'm on a rogers note in Vancouver and i've run many different roms with at&t modems fine. It comes down to your APN settings but i'm currently running the June 28th version and it's been very solid. I've tried 3 different at&t modems over the last month and had no issues with speed on LTE.
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Thanks for the reply... Do you find that you have to set the APN settings each time you flash a new rom?
I'm sure it's too early for someone to have had a look yet, but is there a way for Devs to see what differences there are, if any, between the Canadian carrier modem and the US ones?
I too am concerned. My biggest issue is wanting to use bells mobiletv app. All custom roms do not allow the app to work properly. My apn settings are direct to bell. So for now i ride my newly loaded stock until something magical comes about!
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I'm on a rogers note in Vancouver and i've run many different roms with at&t modems fine. It comes down to your APN settings. . .
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Carrier tweaks are nice but usually there's a work around within a few days of a new rom.
Modem-shmodem it's an SGS modem not an at&t modem and it is interchangable with all galaxy-s phones with the same radio chip.
Well, I think we have a bigger problem with the changes made to the bootloader on the Canadian ICS update. It seems that getting root and CWM is proving more problematic for us than US users because the recovery module keeps being over written each time we boot..
crutzulee said:
Well, I think we have a bigger problem with the changes made to the bootloader on the Canadian ICS update. It seems that getting root and CWM is proving more problematic for us than US users because the recovery module keeps being over written each time we boot..
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That's exactly my case. Can't flash CWM it won't stick after reverting back to stock Bell and updating to ICS.
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Had no problems with the Rogers update. CWM took and SU installed the very first time. Have had many reboots and all is fine.
I apologize if this topic has been covered already, however I am not thoroughly acquainted with smartphones and most of the terminology associated with this topic I do not fully understand yet and am therefore unable to extract the information I need from existing forums. I have a Verizon Rezound that I want to use on the GCI prepaid network. I have followed the instructions in a Youtube video by click4geek called Use any Carrier with HTC Rezound (sorry new user, can't post links) and have also unlocked the bootloader via the HTC website. I now can use the phone over the GCI network for calls and text messaging. I have a twofold question: first, what do I do next--root the phone with a ROM (I read this is the best option for phone functionality and the overheating problem)??? If I do this which ROM would most fit my needs (basic user, just need phone calls, sms/mms messaging, and data)? And second, I have set two APN's via GCI protocol (one for data and one for MMS), the problem is I can access data yet I cannot send picture messages. Any thoughts? Thank you for your help!!!!
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I apologize if this topic has been covered already, however I am not thoroughly acquainted with smartphones and most of the terminology associated with this topic I do not fully understand yet and am therefore unable to extract the information I need from existing forums. I have a Verizon Rezound that I want to use on the GCI prepaid network. I have followed the instructions in a Youtube video by click4geek called Use any Carrier with HTC Rezound (sorry new user, can't post links) and have also unlocked the bootloader via the HTC website. I now can use the phone over the GCI network for calls and text messaging. I have a twofold question: first, what do I do next--root the phone with a ROM (I read this is the best option for phone functionality and the overheating problem)??? If I do this which ROM would most fit my needs (basic user, just need phone calls, sms/mms messaging, and data)? And second, I have set two APN's via GCI protocol (one for data and one for MMS), the problem is I can access data yet I cannot send picture messages. Any thoughts? Thank you for your help!!!!
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I can put some input on the ROM, and somewhat possibly on the APN.
First from what you've said, the over heating problem. That's just a known fact with the rezzy.. look on the bright side, you have a great hand warmer for winter! But, Plain-Andy, CM, or Liquid Smooth would probably suit your needs the best of hand. Do you have a custom recovery yet? You haven't gone S-OFF yet have you? So if you do flash a custom ROM, you will have to extract and flash the boot.img manually from the zip, unless otherwise stated in the OP of ROM.
APN, I don't know very much about.. But I know the rezound got global capabilities with the 4.0.3 ICS update, therefore, if you flash any ROM with the latest update, you should be able to apply them again, but I'm not sure if they would work...
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pball52998 said:
I can put some input on the ROM, and somewhat possibly on the APN.
First from what you've said, the over heating problem. That's just a known fact with the rezzy.. look on the bright side, you have a great hand warmer for winter! But, Plain-Andy, CM, or Liquid Smooth would probably suit your needs the best of hand. Do you have a custom recovery yet? You haven't gone S-OFF yet have you? So if you do flash a custom ROM, you will have to extract and flash the boot.img manually from the zip, unless otherwise stated in the OP of ROM.
APN, I don't know very much about.. But I know the rezound got global capabilities with the 4.0.3 ICS update, therefore, if you flash any ROM with the latest update, you should be able to apply them again, but I'm not sure if they would work...
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You're correct, I do not have a custom recovery or S-OFF. How would I go about doing those, and are they both necessary?
Thank you very much for your assistance!!!!
mdugger said:
You're correct, I do not have a custom recovery or S-OFF. How would I go about doing those, and are they both necessary?
Thank you very much for your assistance!!!!
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A custom recovery is needed to flash any ROM. Or just let alone any rooting/modding. If you have the boot loader unlocked, you should just be able to flash a recovery via fastboot using
fastboot flash recovery (name_of_recovery).img
S-OFF (turns off all security flags) can be achieved via rumrunner. http://rumrunner.us although. Its suggested by a couple of devs, mostly Snuzzo to have a minimum 3 or 4 flashes from fastboot. That's also known for boot images (kernels) and recoveries.
From a custom ROM with S-ON you have to flash the kernel from fastboot. Once you flash the zip in recovery, you have to extract the zip on your computer, but the boot.img needs to go into your fastboot folder. Then flash, similar to flashing the recovery but
fastboot flash boot (name of kernel).img
As for the APN thing though.. All I can say about that is, most AOSP ROMS support different services such as GSM and other companies. It'd probably be specific to the ROM that was flashed. Be helpful to possibly flash and ask OP.
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pball52998 said:
A custom recovery is needed to flash any ROM. Or just let alone any rooting/modding. If you have the boot loader unlocked, you should just be able to flash a recovery via fastboot using
fastboot flash recovery (name_of_recovery).img
S-OFF (turns off all security flags) can be achieved via rumrunner. although. Its suggested by a couple of devs, mostly Snuzzo to have a minimum 3 or 4 flashes from fastboot. That's also known for boot images (kernels) and recoveries.
From a custom ROM with S-ON you have to flash the kernel from fastboot. Once you flash the zip in recovery, you have to extract the zip on your computer, but the boot.img needs to go into your fastboot folder. Then flash, similar to flashing the recovery but
fastboot flash boot (name of kernel).img
As for the APN thing though.. All I can say about that is, most AOSP ROMS support different services such as GSM and other companies. It'd probably be specific to the ROM that was flashed. Be helpful to possibly flash and ask OP.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Paranoid Android. S-OFF.
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thank you for your help. I definitely need more though *sigh*. I followed the directions for "How to Root the HTC Rezound" on the unlockr website. It included flashing an Amon Ra Rezound recovery and installed a Superuser App on my phone. After I followed this guy's directions, I looked at the comments below the process and apparently Superuser and su apps don't work simultaneously on the Rezound and its apparently not rooted, according to the comments anyway. I think in order to flash a custom ROM I will need a "dummies" guide with all steps laid out for me (with S-on). Is there any such guide? Please excuse my naivety. I know it is very taxing explaining everything at an elementary level.
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thank you for your help. I definitely need more though *sigh*. I followed the directions for "How to Root the HTC Rezound" on the unlockr website. It included flashing an Amon Ra Rezound recovery and installed a Superuser App on my phone. After I followed this guy's directions, I looked at the comments below the process and apparently Superuser and su apps don't work simultaneously on the Rezound and its apparently not rooted, according to the comments anyway. I think in order to flash a custom ROM I will need a "dummies" guide with all steps laid out for me (with S-on). Is there any such guide? Please excuse my naivety. I know it is very taxing explaining everything at an elementary level.
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I wrote a giant 30 step guide once.... Let me see if I can find it. But one, you don't want amon ra recovery... That's for ICS. Newer ROMs need TWRP at least 2.6.X.X but preferred 2.7 or above
Edit: Aha! Found it! This has every single step, step by step. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51742399
Start at step 11,12 or 13. Can't really say lol. Or, read the whole post. That's about as clear as it gets. Literally lol
Feel free to ask if there is a misunderstanding.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Paranoid Android. S-OFF.
pball52998 said:
I wrote a giant 30 step guide once.... Let me see if I can find it. But one, you don't want amon ra recovery... That's for ICS. Newer ROMs need TWRP at least 2.6.X.X but preferred 2.7 or above
Edit: Aha! Found it! This has every single step, step by step. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51742399
Start at step 11,12 or 13. Can't really say lol. Or, read the whole post. That's about as clear as it gets. Literally lol
Feel free to ask if there is a misunderstanding.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Paranoid Android. S-OFF.
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Awesome!!! Thank you for your help!!! I'll let you know how it goes--if you hear a primal scream it may be me!!
Ok so I flashed both the CM and LiquidSmooth ROMS with success, but had no service with CM and had some service with LS, but couldn't send sms messages or get data. What did I do wrong?
pball52998 said:
I wrote a giant 30 step guide once.... Let me see if I can find it. But one, you don't want amon ra recovery... That's for ICS. Newer ROMs need TWRP at least 2.6.X.X but preferred 2.7 or above
Edit: Aha! Found it! This has every single step, step by step. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51742399
Start at step 11,12 or 13. Can't really say lol. Or, read the whole post. That's about as clear as it gets. Literally lol
Feel free to ask if there is a misunderstanding.
Sent from my HTC One M8 Running Paranoid Android. S-OFF.
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What hboot and radios are you using?
There are often a few steps to go through when using GSM on the Rezound... and they vary based on using stock ROM or third-party ROM. On stock ROMs you have to use a third party messaging app (Hangouts, Textra, Handcent, etc) to get MMS to work since the embedded messaging app is hard coded to Verizon MMS servers. In third party ROMs you sometimes have to do that, but often have to flash a GSM enabler to get data to work properly. Remember that the Rezound isn't tuned very well to GSM, especially if it is used on US carriers, so often Edge, and occasionally basic 3G/HSPA, service is the best you can get with great signal.
Your APNs could be an issue as well, remember you can only have one active, but it is based on APN type field... if you need a seperate MMS APN than used for data/internet, your default selected APN must not contain the MMS APN Type, it would be in a stand-alone one, and the MMS APN must not contain the default or internet APN types, and your MMS APN should be the only one with the MMS APN type.
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What hboot and radios are you using?
There are often a few steps to go through when using GSM on the Rezound... and they vary based on using stock ROM or third-party ROM. On stock ROMs you have to use a third party messaging app (Hangouts, Textra, Handcent, etc) to get MMS to work since the embedded messaging app is hard coded to Verizon MMS servers. In third party ROMs you sometimes have to do that, but often have to flash a GSM enabler to get data to work properly. Remember that the Rezound isn't tuned very well to GSM, especially if it is used on US carriers, so often Edge, and occasionally basic 3G/HSPA, service is the best you can get with great signal.
Your APNs could be an issue as well, remember you can only have one active, but it is based on APN type field... if you need a seperate MMS APN than used for data/internet, your default selected APN must not contain the MMS APN Type, it would be in a stand-alone one, and the MMS APN must not contain the default or internet APN types, and your MMS APN should be the only one with the MMS APN type.
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How do I tell what radios and hboot I'm using?
I flashed a GSM patch I found on the LiquidSmooth ROM page but must have done it wrong because after I flashed it it lit up the backlight in the phone when it rebooted and just had a black screen for a long time. I Tried to just recover through TWRP but the phone continually got stuck on the 4G page on the reboot. So did I do the custom recovery wrong? I'm thinking I'm stuck flashing a custom ROM now and can't restore my phone. What is my best course of action? I love the custom ROMS but if I cannot even get service then that defeats the point of having the phone.
I do have to have 2 APN's, and the default (data) does not contain MMS APN in the Type field, it says default. And the MMS APN Type is "MMS".
Thank you!!!!
mdugger said:
How do I tell what radios and hboot I'm using?
I flashed a GSM patch I found on the LiquidSmooth ROM page but must have done it wrong because after I flashed it it lit up the backlight in the phone when it rebooted and just had a black screen for a long time. I Tried to just recover through TWRP but the phone continually got stuck on the 4G page on the reboot. So did I do the custom recovery wrong? I'm thinking I'm stuck flashing a custom ROM now and can't restore my phone. What is my best course of action? I love the custom ROMS but if I cannot even get service then that defeats the point of having the phone.
I do have to have 2 APN's, and the default (data) does not contain MMS APN in the Type field, it says default. And the MMS APN Type is "MMS".
Thank you!!!!
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Remove battery and reinsert, power up holding VOL DN + POWER... that screen is the Hboot screen, at the top is listed Hboot version, radios, and other pertinent data.
I haven't messed with ROMs in some time on the Rezound, I don't even own one anymore... but the Rez is picky, some ROMs work well on some handsets, and others do not... I am surprised that the GSM patch would bootloop LS, there isn't really much you can do wrong if you are using the current TWRP, just flash and wipe cache and dalvik, reboot and wait. What recovery and version are you using (start it and it should show at the top of the screen). You could also try one of @sun_dream ROM's, his are pretty much exclusive to GSM users. What carrier and frequencies are we talking about here would be good info as well...
2 APNs are fine, although all APN types should be lower case, not sure if that would cause an issue or you just listed it that way in your message... Linux/Android is case sensitive for most things, Camera is different than camera.
I will say again that Rezound is a finicky GSM phone, things have to be just right... some people can get it to work with marginal success, but only a select few people can get it working "great", and with other devices being relatively cheap like the Doogee Voyager, Posh, and Sharkk with 5" screens, 1GB RAM, dual SIMs, and quad core processors being available for well under $100, and some devices, like the Blu Dash, for under $60 it makes little sense to push the Rezound too much even as a backup device. Are you located in the US? The Rezound can easily be sold for less than the cost of many of these devices to people with broken devices stuck in a contract with Verizon, I have seen ones in good condition sell for $100-$130, putting you in the realm of really pretty decent GSM phones like the BLU Studio 5.0 C HD for $130, it is a top rated budget phone.
Sorry I got off on a ramble there... I am not trying to sway you from trying to get it working, you might be able too, just don't set your expectations too high, the Rezound is a great device on Verizon... on GSM carriers not so much... I will continue to try to help you as much as I can .
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Remove battery and reinsert, power up holding VOL DN + POWER... that screen is the Hboot screen, at the top is listed Hboot version, radios, and other pertinent data.
I haven't messed with ROMs in some time on the Rezound, I don't even own one anymore... but the Rez is picky, some ROMs work well on some handsets, and others do not... I am surprised that the GSM patch would bootloop LS, there isn't really much you can do wrong if you are using the current TWRP, just flash and wipe cache and dalvik, reboot and wait. What recovery and version are you using (start it and it should show at the top of the screen). You could also try one of @sun_dream ROM's, his are pretty much exclusive to GSM users. What carrier and frequencies are we talking about here would be good info as well...
2 APNs are fine, although all APN types should be lower case, not sure if that would cause an issue or you just listed it that way in your message... Linux/Android is case sensitive for most things, Camera is different than camera.
I will say again that Rezound is a finicky GSM phone, things have to be just right... some people can get it to work with marginal success, but only a select few people can get it working "great", and with other devices being relatively cheap like the Doogee Voyager, Posh, and Sharkk with 5" screens, 1GB RAM, dual SIMs, and quad core processors being available for well under $100, and some devices, like the Blu Dash, for under $60 it makes little sense to push the Rezound too much even as a backup device. Are you located in the US? The Rezound can easily be sold for less than the cost of many of these devices to people with broken devices stuck in a contract with Verizon, I have seen ones in good condition sell for $100-$130, putting you in the realm of really pretty decent GSM phones like the BLU Studio 5.0 C HD for $130, it is a top rated budget phone.
Sorry I got off on a ramble there... I am not trying to sway you from trying to get it working, you might be able too, just don't set your expectations too high, the Rezound is a great device on Verizon... on GSM carriers not so much... I will continue to try to help you as much as I can .
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No problem on the ramble I have had a budget phone but the camera on the Rezound is much much better, and that's the main reason I have a smartphone to begin with. Here's the specs you requested in your earlier post:
VIGOR PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.27.0000
RADIO-2.22.10.0801r/2.22.10.0803r
OpenDSP-v14.6.0.7708.00.0507
eMMC-boot
Aug 6 2012, 19:24:37
Team Win Recovery Project v2.8.1.0
GCI Communications in Alaska, prepaid SIM I believe is 3G
I do have data access on LS, but the service is worse than I had with the stock ROM, and I still cannot send SMS or MMS. I had to leave the house to get it. I will try flashing the GSM fix again, and there is a build.prop fix that I apparently overlooked in the LS postings. If that doesn't work then looks like I'm on to a different ROM. Does it sound like my recovery is just shot, since it won't go past the "4G" boot screen?
Thanks again! You are the Rezound dictionary I've been needing!!!
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GCI Communications in Alaska, prepaid SIM I believe is 3G
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I'll look at the other stuff in a bit, at work, I'll reply in the morning, we probably need to try to upgrade radios but I gotta do some research that I can't ATM...
But is this a AT&T or Tmo MVNO, or an independent?
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I'll look at the other stuff in a bit, at work, I'll reply in the morning, we probably need to try to upgrade radios but I gotta do some research that I can't ATM...
But is this a AT&T or Tmo MVNO, or an independent?
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As far as I know, an independent, as AT&T has it's own towers up here in AK.
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As far as I know, an independent, as AT&T has it's own towers up here in AK.
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I may be wrong, but it looks like GCI operates it's HSPA and LTE networks in the AWS spectrum... 1700/2100 MHz Band 4, similar to T-mobile, the Rezound does not support that frequency band in hardware, meaning you may only get 2G/Edge.
It is really tough to find any specifics though, I will have to look at their FCC filings, what market area are you in?
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I may be wrong, but it looks like GCI operates it's HSPA and LTE networks in the AWS spectrum... 1700/2100 MHz Band 4, similar to T-mobile, the Rezound does not support that frequency band in hardware, meaning you may only get 2G/Edge.
It is really tough to find any specifics though, I will have to look at their FCC filings, what market area are you in?
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So I would only be able to get 2G/Edge no matter what ROM or RUU I could flash? How does this affect the fact that I can't receive SMS or MMS on LS but I can on ICS stock? Or does it? I'm in the Matanuska-Susitna Valley area: Palmer, Wasilla, Houston, Big Lake area.
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So I would only be able to get 2G/Edge no matter what ROM or RUU I could flash? How does this affect the fact that I can't receive SMS or MMS on LS but I can on ICS stock? Or does it? I'm in the Matanuska-Susitna Valley area: Palmer, Wasilla, Houston, Big Lake area.
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It appears that way, I will have to look at the FCC filings for GCI in that area and see if they support any other frequency ranges. I don't know about their prepaid plans, but the postpaid seems to have some kind of roaming agreement with AT&T. It's pretty uncommon for prepaid to have roaming capabilities though. I'll look into it more in the morning.
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Looked into it a little more this morning, doesn't look good for the Rezound on GCI
It appears they have:
1900Mhz for Voice/Text (GSM/GPRS) and 2G/Edge data - supported by Rezound
1900Mhz for UMTS (3G/WCDMA) data - Technically supported by the Rezound, but it is known not to work in the US
1700/2100Mhz AWS for HSPA/HSPA+ - NOT supported by Rezound
1700/2100Mhz AWS Band 4 for LTE - NOT supported by Rezound
The Rezound is known to support:
CDMA: 800/1900 Mhz (Verizon Voice/3G EVDO network)
GSM/GPRS: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA(UMTS): 900/1800 MHz (850/1900Mhz have been "detuned" from chipset)
HSPA: 900/2100 MHz
LTE: 700 MHz (Band 13 only)
To be honest, information on GCI's wireless network is tough to come by, and their FCC filings are very broad ranging for a wide variety of technologies, not very specific at all. Their website mentions BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) in a few places but gives no specifics, FAQ, or other information on what frequencies are supported. Frankly I am a little stumped on finding out more information.
It appears that anything over basic GSM or UMTS speeds requires a device that supports the AWS spectrum, which the Rezound does not, and even that information is sketchy as although UMTS seems to be supported by GCI at 1900Mhz, which the Rezound "technically" supports, the 1900Mhz band for UMTS/WCDMA and HSPA is known to be "detuned" in the Rezound... to a point where you basically have to be sitting on the tower to get minimal service. Whether this was an oversight by HTC and Verizon, or a deliberate plan to prevent the device from being switched to another US carrier since 1900Mhz data is only used in the US, has been a hotly debated issue.
So what this all boils down to it that you should be able to get voice, text, and minimal data services including MMS, working on the Rezound with GCI, but your service will be extremely slow... 2G/Edge in GSM networks usually run from 120Kbps to 384Kbps, and that is probably the best you will get with the Rezound on GCI.
Sorry I don't have better news for you.
Don't apologize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm grateful for the research and the time you put into helping me!!!!!! If you were in my shoes and stuck with the rezound then would you go back to stock via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509770 (since SMS/voice/data at least worked with ICS), try different 3rd party ROMS until I find one that works with SMS/MMS/voice and data (in hopes of finding a better OS) or try to find a fix for my TWRP recovery-gone-wrong?
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Looked into it a little more this morning, doesn't look good for the Rezound on GCI
It appears they have:
1900Mhz for Voice/Text (GSM/GPRS) and 2G/Edge data - supported by Rezound
1900Mhz for UMTS (3G/WCDMA) data - Technically supported by the Rezound, but it is known not to work in the US
1700/2100Mhz AWS for HSPA/HSPA+ - NOT supported by Rezound
1700/2100Mhz AWS Band 4 for LTE - NOT supported by Rezound
The Rezound is known to support:
CDMA: 800/1900 Mhz (Verizon Voice/3G EVDO network)
GSM/GPRS: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA(UMTS): 900/1800 MHz (850/1900Mhz have been "detuned" from chipset)
HSPA: 900/2100 MHz
LTE: 700 MHz (Band 13 only)
To be honest, information on GCI's wireless network is tough to come by, and their FCC filings are very broad ranging for a wide variety of technologies, not very specific at all. Their website mentions BYOD (Bring Your Own Device) in a few places but gives no specifics, FAQ, or other information on what frequencies are supported. Frankly I am a little stumped on finding out more information.
It appears that anything over basic GSM or UMTS speeds requires a device that supports the AWS spectrum, which the Rezound does not, and even that information is sketchy as although UMTS seems to be supported by GCI at 1900Mhz, which the Rezound "technically" supports, the 1900Mhz band for UMTS/WCDMA and HSPA is known to be "detuned" in the Rezound... to a point where you basically have to be sitting on the tower to get minimal service. Whether this was an oversight by HTC and Verizon, or a deliberate plan to prevent the device from being switched to another US carrier since 1900Mhz data is only used in the US, has been a hotly debated issue.
So what this all boils down to it that you should be able to get voice, text, and minimal data services including MMS, working on the Rezound with GCI, but your service will be extremely slow... 2G/Edge in GSM networks usually run from 120Kbps to 384Kbps, and that is probably the best you will get with the Rezound on GCI.
Sorry I don't have better news for you.
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Don't apologize!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm grateful for the research and the time you put into helping me!!!!!! If you were in my shoes and stuck with the rezound then would you go back to stock via http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509770 (since SMS/voice/data at least worked with ICS), try different 3rd party ROMS until I find one that works with SMS/MMS/voice and data (in hopes of finding a better OS) or try to find a fix for my TWRP recovery-gone-wrong?
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I would flash a custom ROM, then go s-off, then go through that procedure. You have to be s-off before you can do that. Honestly, if it was me and I needed to use GCI I would restore to stock and sell it, to be honest the Rezound camera on anything but stock is just marginal by today's standards. On sense roms the camera is much better
i have a Droid DNA, s-off, bootloader unlocked, super cid and custom 4.4.2 with sense 6.0. i have 4G on my other phone (HTC One M7) and want to use my sim in the droid. i only get 3G. what can i do to connect to 4G?
It probably doesn't have the bands for your providers 4g
The only LTE band enabled by default on the Droid DNA is band 13.
You will have to enable the other bands to make it work.
1.) Install original factory ROM (You could use another ROM but I don't know how to get to Diagnostic mode in others such as CM11).
2.) Install a custom kernel. I has to be created from source, not stock.
3.) Download and install QPST and QXDM.
4.) Plug in phone, let it install the drivers
5.) Type: ##3424# and then hit send, let it install all drivers. This will take a while, ensure it completes before attempting to continue.
6.) Open a file browser and navigate to the "C:/Program Files/Qualcomm/QPST/bin" folder, and start the program "QPSTConfig.exe" (run as administrator by right clicking).
7.) I had two devices listed under the "ports" tab. Only one mentioned an ESN, it was the SURF9615.
Note: If it isn't showing up already under the "ports" tab, go to "Add New Port". Select the one that has 9k in it. You may have to untick "Show serial USB/QC Diagnostic ports only" to see it.
8.) (OPTIONAL, ***But highly recommended***) Now select the QPST Start Clients > Software download > Backup > Start. This saves a backup copy of your phone's stock NV memory to your computer in case you need it later. (I would also recommend that you write down the original values before you make any changes.)
9.) Again in the QPST Configuration program, go to the "Start clients" tab. Start "Service Programming" program. Select to load your device. Then click "read from device". This will send your SPC program code, which should be 000000. This will allow the next program to work.
10.) Next, run QXDM Professional (again, right click and run as administrator).
11.) Change the "view" tab to "NV Browser".
12.) Go to the communications tab in the menu of QXDM and tick the line that lists your device. Under "Target Port", make sure it lists the COM for the device that mentioned 9k earlier.
13.) Once it has loaded the NV items, go to the line 06828 and click "read".
14.) Click once in the box with the current value (should be 4096), and then edit it to be 0. Then, tell QXDM to "write" the value by clicking that box at the bottom right of the program.
15.) You may now click the box again and change this line to reflect whatever band(s) you want to enable.
Now, do the same for 06829.
Tip: You can calculate your own values for this or download the program called "Qualcomm NV Calculator" (It is free). If you use this program, you will use the LTE Bands Calculation tab. You will need to go to the menu in the top right corner and select "LTE Bands Calculation" and tell it that you want to "Use QXDM Notation" in order to get the right values. Enter the decimal result for the 6828 & 6829 values.
Reboot your phone. It should now have whatever bands you have selected enabled.
I know this looks tedious but literally takes about 30 seconds after doing it a few times.
Note: Other programs that you may find useful are "LTE Discovery" and "Network Diagnostics".
did it a 100 times.. with all the band combinations that i could get out of that program.. still not getting 4G signal.. so i think i won't be able to use 4G.. will stick to the 3G. by the way the bands for Romania are : 3,7,20. in NV the code is : 524356
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did it a 100 times.. with all the band combinations that i could get out of that program.. still not getting 4G signal.. so i think i won't be able to use 4G.. will stick to the 3G. by the way the bands for Romania are : 3,7,20. in NV the code is : 524356
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Sorry to hear that it didn't work. Many qualcomm devices are capable of all bands, but it is possible the DNA is not. I did notice on my device that 4G seems to be disabled altogether when I did this on Verizon. So, maybe there is something I've missed.
maybe we are doing something wrong.. i see that more Qualcomm phones are able to see more lte bands (see oneplus one).. so maybe if we use a CM ROM?? i guess it could be ok, because in Diag (*#*#4636#*#*) after selecting LTE it goes back to WCDMA in a flash.. after unlocking all bands when i select LTE is says no service.. so who knows.
The 4G radio in Verizon phones is drastically different as the frequency is different. It isn't AWS like a majority of other 4G radios. Sadly it might never work without changing the hardware out which will cause major issues.
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The 4G radio in Verizon phones is drastically different as the frequency is different. It isn't AWS like a majority of other 4G radios. Sadly it might never work without changing the hardware out which will cause major issues.
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This may not be completely accurate. This method has been used on several devices it would appear: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291589
Also, if you look down in this post, it appears that some phones require you to manually select that you want to activate the bands by dialing *#2263# (or some variation of this) and then selecting the bands that are desired: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547114
It may* work on the DNA. In the end, this may be a hardware related issue, but is is likely just a software related one (I believe). I honestly believe this is essentially the same hardware as the Butterfly with different radios and software. It is fully capable of using the bands you are wanting. However, this is just my theory and remains to be proven.
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This may not be completely accurate. This method has been used on several devices it would appear: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291589
Also, if you look down in this post, it appears that some phones require you to manually select that you want to activate the bands by dialing *#2263# (or some variation of this) and then selecting the bands that are desired: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547114
It may* work on the DNA. In the end, this may be a hardware related issue, but is is likely just a software related one (I believe). I honestly believe this is essentially the same hardware as the Butterfly with different radios and software. It is fully capable of using the bands you are wanting. However, this is just my theory and remains to be proven.
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Those aren't Verizon variants. Those are phones that were built with AWS in mind. The DNA is a CDMA phone with a few GSM bands built into it because Verizon told HTC they wanted a global phone and told them the bands they wanted and the ones they wanted excluded from the phone. There have been ex DNA and ex Rezound (another HTC global phone for Verizon) users who have tried for quite awhile in trying to get these "magical hidden" radios to work and it all came down to that they aren't there in these variants.
You can search and dig up old DNA and rezound threads from years ago and see the amount of work done.
Edit: Checked the old threads. The GSM bands for the DNA is as below. It doesn't support the 1700/2100 (ul/dl scheme) of AWS LTE as it is missing the 1700 in its radio altogether. The phone would need both 2100 and 1700 in UTMS to allow the correct 1700 up link and 2100 down link connections. This phone just lacks the hardware.
It wasn't made to be a GSM only phone. It was initially meant to be used on Verizon and work on international carriers when going on holiday.
UMTS/HSPA: 850/900/1900/2100MHz; GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz;*
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Those aren't Verizon variants. Those are phones that were built with AWS in mind. The DNA is a CDMA phone with a few GSM bands built into it because Verizon told HTC they wanted a global phone and told them the bands they wanted and the ones they wanted excluded from the phone. There have been ex DNA and ex Rezound (another HTC global phone for Verizon) users who have tried for quite awhile in trying to get these "magical hidden" radios to work and it all came down to that they aren't there in these variants.
You can search and dig up old DNA and rezound threads from years ago and see the amount of work done.
Edit: Checked the old threads. The GSM bands for the DNA is as below. It doesn't support the 1700/2100 (ul/dl scheme) of AWS LTE as it is missing the 1700 in its radio altogether. The phone would need both 2100 and 1700 in UTMS to allow the correct 1700 up link and 2100 down link connections. This phone just lacks the hardware.
It wasn't made to be a GSM only phone. It was initially meant to be used on Verizon and work on international carriers when going on holiday.
UMTS/HSPA: 850/900/1900/2100MHz; GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900MHz;*
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I appreciate your input, but did you read the OP or my posts fully?
If you did, you should realize that I fully understand that the Butterfly isn't a Verizon variant, it is the other way around. I was suggesting that there is a possibility that the phone might be able to unlock additional bands because it is basically the same phone as other GSM variants only branded and modified for Verizon as you can see here: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_butterfly-5118.php
This has been done in the past with other devices including Verizon devices such as the GS5, LGG3, etc as discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
While, I expect you already know this... It all boils down to the fact that R&D cost money. It's often cheaper for manufacterers to slap the same hardware in a device and modify the software to the liking of carriers such as by limiting the bands.
By the way, if you read the OP you would know that band 4 LTE is useless to the OP because he is trying to the phone in Europe, where there is no carrier using that band. You list the bands that the phone has been approved for, but as I mentioned above but other variants of this phone exist that utilize the bands the OP is looking for and there is a strong chance those variants share the same hardware. As mentioned above, this has been true for many other devices. I researched the topic and never found any conclusive proof that they can't be unlocked, so I felt like it might be worth his/her time to give it a shot since the method I listed is pretty easy and safe.
The Rezound is a much different device. It has no GSM radio. I would never have expected it to work on any GSM network...anywhere...ever. About the only things they have in common are that they are both produced for the Verizon carrier and use (different) snapdragon processors by HTC.
I do appreciate your input.
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I appreciate your input, but did you read the OP or my posts fully?
If you did, you should realize that I fully understand that the Butterfly isn't a Verizon variant, it is the other way around. I was suggesting that there is a possibility that the phone might be able to unlock additional bands because it is basically the same phone as other GSM variants only branded and modified for Verizon as you can see here: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_butterfly-5118.php
This has been done in the past with other devices including Verizon devices such as the GS5, LGG3, etc as discussed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
While, I expect you already know this... It all boils down to the fact that R&D cost money. It's often cheaper for manufacterers to slap the same hardware in a device and modify the software to the liking of carriers such as by limiting the bands.
By the way, if you read the OP you would know that band 4 LTE is useless to the OP because he is trying to the phone in Europe, where there is no carrier using that band. You list the bands that the phone has been approved for, but as I mentioned above but other variants of this phone exist that utilize the bands the OP is looking for and there is a strong chance those variants share the same hardware. As mentioned above, this has been true for many other devices. I researched the topic and never found any conclusive proof that they can't be unlocked, so I felt like it might be worth his/her time to give it a shot since the method I listed is pretty easy and safe.
The Rezound is a much different device. It has no GSM radio. I would never have expected it to work on any GSM network...anywhere...ever. About the only things they have in common are that they are both produced for the Verizon carrier and use (different) snapdragon processors by HTC.
I do appreciate your input.
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The Rezound does have a GSM radio. A number of users including myself have used it on other networks. Me personally, I tested it on T-Mobile and AT&T and got edge speeds. You are discussing a carrier who purposely burned out the FM radio in the Verizon M7 so it would not be functional. While you are right, HTC might have allowed the bands be made on the radio, it is highly unlikely. Others have tried. Some have even tried doing NV edits and didn't get it to work. This isn't the first time this subject has come up. The DNA can get some HSPA bands, some have tried to get some HSPA+ to work, some have tried getting 4G to work, one actually burned out his radio doing an incorrect NV edit. It has been tested before. HSPA in the US can only work on the refarmed areas. This has been talked about. HSPA will work in other countries that use the above bands specified.
If you are dealing with a carrier that will purposely tell the manufacturer to burn out an FM radio to force internet music streaming, why wouldn't they tell them to make a special radio for their variant? The reason the SGS5 and HTC One M8 work is because of the processor used, this phone is too old to work.
LTE in Europe
Hi, I live in Europe and in my coutry my carrier provides LTE, I've done the radio change with QPST and QXDM as described in post #3, I've enabled all the bands, but without luck.
I've the latest radio and hboot, tried some build.prop file tweas for LTE as described here, still no luck.
May be it's just a matter of some other setttings in buld.prop, but after many trials I think it has to be the radio, what blocks other LTE bands.
I had a bad idea to flash the radio made for HTC J Butterfly (HTL21), but I'm afraid of it (hardbrick), rather to find out, if it is the radio, what causes the problem and if it is, than figure out, how to edit the original radio (if it's possible).
Have anybody tried edit the radio or just able to read out something useful from it?
Somebody created a custom radio for Samsung devices as described here so I think it could be possible for DLX to.
I have a Verizon Note 2. The ROMs available here for it are either stuck in KitKat, or littered with bugs that I just can't live with in a daily driver.
What I've wondered is can I flash TWRP for say the N7100, and then my phone will think that's what I have and let me flash those ROMs? Or, can I maybe even flash a different bootloader for the same purpose? Is this possible? I really want to get a couple more years out of my Note 2, but if I can't find a usable ROM then I'll be forced to say goodbye to it. So, can someone help?
I run a lot of at&t roms. I have tried a great number of ROMs and I have found that t mo Vzw at&t and international all work. But you have to set up APN stuff yourself. And never ever flash a modem or a ROM that includes one. There is still some kind of lock on the basdands.
Seriously, have you tried any of the AOSP roms that are on 5.1.1. XenonHD, CyanideL for instance. Rock stable, beautiful, fast. You could easily get another 2 years out of this phone once marshmallow hits.
Also, Alliance 4.4.2 TW ROM is rock solid.
I have a note 5 that sits in the drawer. Note II = best phone I have ever had. Will cry when it dies.
"Rock stable" is a subjective term, I guess. I personally don't consider the lack of bluetooth google voice commands, and the lost of 4g requiring setting APN settings to default to be "Rock stable".
Seriously.
Heh... If you struggle changing APN settings, you are gunna be in a world of hurt using a TMO ROM.
All you have to do is delete the APN, and reset it. That is with any 5.1.1 ROM.
Guess I never encountered the Bluetooth bug.
Have you tried XenonHD?
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Heh... If you struggle changing APN settings, you are gunna be in a world of hurt using a TMO ROM.
All you have to do is delete the APN, and reset it. That is with any 5.1.1 ROM.
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My point is that with a "rock solid" rom, the APN settings would just work and no resetting would be necessary.
Initial setup and long term stability are two completely different concepts IMO. Anything other than stock is going to take some initial setup. Whether that be applying GAPPS or SU or flashing kernel, or APN, or theming.
I guess I don't know what you want. Weren't you talking about flashing N7100 ROMs?? You know how much setup it will take to get those to work?
Again have you tried XenonHD?
So, I'll pose the question again...
Can I run other Note II roms that weren't designed for the Verizon version of the phone? If so, how exactly do I change the APN settings to accommodate my Verizon service?
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So, I'll pose the question again...
Can I run other Note II roms that weren't designed for the Verizon version of the phone? If so, how exactly do I change the APN settings to accommodate my Verizon service?
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No, that wouldn't be a good idea. Because each carrier has their own version of software for the Note II, they cannot be cross compatible. I once had a Sprint S2 and tried flashing an international ROM onto it, and let's just say that didn't end well. I got it fixed with some luck tho. What are you trying to accomplish by getting a Tmobile/ATT/SPRINT ROM? Also btw another reason is because AT&T and TMobile run off of the GSM bands and Verizon/Sprint run off of a CDMA band. The two don't mix. And no you can't flash a Sprint ROM either, as they use different CDMA bands.
I have the i605 Verizon variant of the Note 2. I changed service from Verizon to Straighttalk and since straighttalk uses AT&T, if I use a verizon rom on AT&T, incoming calls and outgoing calls are a pain in the ass. So, in order to accommodate this problem, I had to install the i317 att note 2 custom recovery version on my i605. I use the ATT SlimKat custom rom on my i605 without any issues. battery life is good and pretty stable. it is safe to odin flash an AT&T custom recovery to a i605. but if you flash a custom rom, be sure it doesn't have a modem or boot.img inside or you will run into problems. Generally stay away from TW roms as i've found they usually have them.