Increase OC steps on Xperia Ray - Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A

Hello everyone! I'm using latest's sirkay's kernel which gets up to 1.6ghz oc,i wanted to know if i could increase the steps to increase the oc,so i could test if i can achieve more than 1.6ghz! Is there a way to do it? Thank you

There is, build a kernel yourself.
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idareyoutoclickthis said:
There is, build a kernel yourself.
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LOL....too true....
But anyway, it is craziness to overclock the RAY even to 1.6 GHz....the power dissapted by the cpu is: C x f x V x V (p = power, C = capacitance, f = frequency, and V = voltage)....the ray is rated at 1 GHz frequency and 1200 mV...so assuming you can get 1.6 GHz to be stable @ 1200 mV...you are still talking about a 60% increase in power...which means a lot more heat, which means your cpu decays faster....which means you will be need a new phone sooner.
The insidious part is that your phone probably won't fry in a few seconds , you will probably won't even notice it for a while, until one day, you start getting a lot of FCs, random reboots, and other signs of instability....the good news is that SONY is making a crapload of new phones to choose from.....
Please don't say that the chipset is the same in the arc and they can OC to 2.2 GHz.....the arc can tolerate a greater load because its design allows for greater heat dissipation....mostly because all the components aren't jammed on top of each other.....

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There is, build a kernel yourself.
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How do I build a kernel from myself?
I'm not saying i will keep it stable at 2ghz,just wanted to see if i could get it up to 1.7-1.8..i dont want to fry my phone xD

justmpm said:
LOL....too true....
But anyway, it is craziness to overclock the RAY even to 1.6 GHz....the power dissapted by the cpu is: C x f x V x V (p = power, C = capacitance, f = frequency, and V = voltage)....the ray is rated at 1 GHz frequency and 1200 mV...so assuming you can get 1.6 GHz to be stable @ 1200 mV...you are still talking about a 60% increase in power...which means a lot more heat, which means your cpu decays faster....which means you will be need a new phone sooner.
The insidious part is that your phone probably won't fry in a few seconds , you will probably won't even notice it for a while, until one day, you start getting a lot of FCs, random reboots, and other signs of instability....the good news is that SONY is making a crapload of new phones to choose from.....
Please don't say that the chipset is the same in the arc and they can OC to 2.2 GHz.....the arc can tolerate a greater load because its design allows for greater heat dissipation....mostly because all the components aren't jammed on top of each other.....
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as expected from justmpm. good explanation. you wanna be spokesperson for xKernel? hahaha
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[Q] Is Overclocking Galaxy s2 to 1.5 ghz Safe ?

Hi im thinking of doing a overclock to 1.5 ghz is it safe for the processor and the battery life witch already sucks. has anyone on here whos done it using setcpu and the rom had any problems after doing so ? and how much faster is 1.5 ghz compared to 1.2 ghz on the galaxy s2 ? and is it safe in general for the hardware of the phone will the phone get hotter or have over heating problems ? also what should my settings be for minimum maximum and the voltages ?
Of course oc is going to make ur battery life a lot worse.
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I haven' used Setcpu in a while but I believe it's got a feature to stress test the settings to see if it can handle it. Generally the worst that happens is it'll crash. So long as it doesn't get hot. Heat=death for electronics :')
I'm using tegrak (from market) to overclock to 1.4. I found 1.5 was too unstable. Noticeable difference between 1.2 & 1.4 is almost none. Also voltage increase of 50mv was needed to gain stability. There is not much point of overclocking the device IMO unless like me u just get some satisfaction out of knowing its running faster!
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I'm using tegrak (from market) to overclock to 1.4. I found 1.5 was too unstable. Noticeable difference between 1.2 & 1.4 is almost none. Also voltage increase of 50mv was needed to gain stability. There is not much point of overclocking the device IMO unless like me u just get some satisfaction out of knowing its running faster!
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This is true. I see no difference between 1.2 & 1.5ghz. But that doesn't keep me from running it at 1.5 when I'm playing a game anyway :'D
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GMoneyDTP said:
Hi im thinking of doing a overclock to 1.5 ghz is it safe for the processor and the battery life witch already sucks. has anyone on here whos done it using setcpu and the rom had any problems after doing so ? and how much faster is 1.5 ghz compared to 1.2 ghz on the galaxy s2 ? and is it safe in general for the hardware of the phone will the phone get hotter or have over heating problems ? also what should my settings be for minimum maximum and the voltages ?
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Well it's not safe, that I can say. Nothing is safe when you don't know what other things are changing with the clock rate. But still you could do that. You just have to make sure that the temperature is within limit, it will be definitely high, but make sure it's not that high.
And upping the clock rate to 1.5 GHz won't drain any extra battery than 1.2 GHz.
Regards.
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Hi im thinking of doing a overclock to 1.5 ghz is it safe for the processor and the battery life witch already sucks. has anyone on here whos done it using setcpu and the rom had any problems after doing so ? and how much faster is 1.5 ghz compared to 1.2 ghz on the galaxy s2 ? and is it safe in general for the hardware of the phone will the phone get hotter or have over heating problems ? also what should my settings be for minimum maximum and the voltages ?
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I tried the overclocking and each phone is different, increase then test, there are many benchmarking apps out there, I was stable at 1.4, my kernel does not include 1.5 GHz, and irregardless of what people may say, running the phone at higher clock speeds consistently DOES drain the battery more than 1.2GHz, unless you have found a way to manipulate the laws of physics. I don't see how one can fathom the thought that you can get a faster CPU at absolutely no cost.
Many people think when the CPU running faster means you complete tasks faster, hence 1.5 would complete a task faster than 1.2 and hence save battery, but I believe we use this phone as more than a calculator, so when you are performing a task that causes the CPU to run at 1.5 for a period of time e.g playing a game, browsing or whatever you do with your phone, then the CPU has to draw more power to keep the frequency at 1.5 as compared to the CPU running at 1.2
All in all, I dialed back because I was doing fine without it and I did not need it, other people may need it, and I wasn't gaining anything. to answer your question directly, it all depends on what you do with your phone, I'm not a huge gamer or anything and the 1.2GHz has proven to be more than enough for me to have a very pleasant experience using this device
Using it occasionally is safe, unless you stress your mobile at 1.5+ ghz for more than an hour or so.
The cpu governor will only make use of higher frequencies when there is a need, so mostly you will see your mobile idling at 200 mhz.
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Of course oc is going to make ur battery life a lot worse.
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Not necessarily a lot worse. It depends on how you are using your phone, and what is causing it to run fast. If overclocking allows the phone to spend longer in deep sleep state, your battery will win. If its games, and by OC you achieve a higher frame rate, then the phone is doing more work, and this will be reflected in the battery life going down.
Most of the time, screen on is going to dominate. If you are a low screen-on user, I guess there is more chance for a higher max_cpu to be beneficial (it won't be used unless there is a task that requires it). More accurately, it helps some of the time, so the net result is not always obvious to predict.
How about undervolting?
Any danger in doing so- other than crashing when voltage is too low?
Before over clocking it might be worth downloading cpuspy from the market and seeing what time you spend in each speed.
Chances are most of the time you won't even hit 1.2 so might not have anything to gain by over clocking.
Then again I dont know how you use your device but I do know I was surprised when I found out.
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I've played with the SuperSonic version of this phone (which has a 1.5Ghz core) and the results from photos/video are much better, I'm pretty sure the cameras are exactly the same but the SuperSonic benefits from the higher CPU.
I think it would be cool if somebody could write an app that states
IF user opens Camera application voltage + clock speed is increased to allow stable 1.5GHz speed
WHEN user closes camera application overclock turns off.
Thoughts?
You have a smartphone! Not a pc!
I didnt see any advantage if you oc to 1.5
Btw In normal use your phone keep in 200mhz not 1.2.
I think i only hit 1.2 two or 3 times for 3 seconds in a full battery cycle.
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oc dosnt make sense ,there no noticeable diff,an yes very few times i hit 1.2 mostly its on 800 or few times on 1000....using a device with 1.5ghz proccesor an oc a device to 1.5 ghz which has 1ghz processor is very diff in nature....
Fair enough.
Well I wouldn't mind an app that mazes out at 1.2GHz with camera app open, as it can lag when shooting HD.
oc upto 1.4 ghz is fair enough, anything more than that is a waste. though you cant find any visible difference between 1,1.2 and 1.4 it does helps in maintaining smoothness on some situations.
yes very true i had oc my sgs1 at 1.2ghz and sgs2 at 1.4ghz but frankly i dint see the diff so after few days use i turnd to orignal settings....but many use oc an phone works fine,but depends on personel use......an yes as bala_gammer says its fine on 1.4ghz......cheeeerz
is overclocking galaxy s2 to 1.3gh safe
HEY pople and friends i want to overclock my samsung galaxy s2 to 1.3gh soo is it safe ??????.
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HEY pople and friends i want to overclock my samsung galaxy s2 to 1.3gh soo is it safe ??????.
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hey mate
u really think 100mhz would make that much change? its safe btw... seen people running s2 at clock speed higher than 1.3ghz
Plz help @..Longtime hd gaming(gta sa,nfs mw , asphalt,modern combat...) using 1.4 ghz is safe?
I also noted that gameloft games are makes more over heat for phone..
Which is the best and safe voltage level for 1.4 ghz 1250mv or 1275mv or 1300mv
Iam using siyah v6.0b5 kernel with wizzedkat 3.1..
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Well u do not see much difference on daily usage due to oc..but it does give a smoother experience while playing high quality games
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[Q] Overclock Capability

In what does overclock depends?, I've overclocked my X10 at 1.1 GHZ, but I've seen people on this forum that run theirs at 1.2, mine starts a bootloop with those frequencies, Why? Why does this happen if they are all the same device?...
Same devices,but some chips have better OC potential than others,like CPUs on PCs.
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The CPU just unstable with it operate at such high frequency.
You have two options
a)Set it at lower frequency
b)Tune up the voltage of CPU at that frequency
(!It may damage your phone,read every words in the program and make sure you know what you are doing!)
I run my phone at 1.2ghz but I don't see the difference since Sony Ericsson cheaped out with a shtty small ram
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My advise is not to overclock it. You can show off in front of your friends. But why risk your x10. Many x10 have capacity to go till 1.2GHZ.
They have some 2010 versions while some are 2011.
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My advise is not to overclock it. You can show off in front of your friends. But why risk your x10. Many x10 have capacity to go till 1.2GHZ.
They have some 2010 versions while some are 2011.
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its not that big a risk, overclocking it makes a big difference, I run mine at 1.2ghz and there's an increase in performance in everything I do.
pages load faster, games run much better, videos/music play better and faster.
its not showing of to make your hardware faster.
trojan92 said:
its not that big a risk, overclocking it makes a big difference, I run mine at 1.2ghz and there's an increase in performance in everything I do.
pages load faster, games run much better, videos/music play better and faster.
its not showing of to make your hardware faster.
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Thats very true, i run my phone at around 500mhz-1198mhz ,smartass very smooth
MattyOnXperiaX10 said:
I run my phone at 1.2ghz but I don't see the difference since Sony Ericsson cheaped out with a shtty small ram
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That true
It just can't be "real" multitasking
cpu hot ..... dei..

[Discussion] why our phone's proc can be o'clocked so "crazily high"

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This thread is purely a discussion about our phone's processor ability to be overclocked.
Does anyone here have any idea how our beloved xperia mini/minipro/lww processor can be clock as high as 2GHz as opposed to its default clock speed(1GHz)? If you carefully goes beyond our phone subforums into the realms other phone you can see that much of the phone there can't be overclock as high as our phone can go. Eg; other phone with 1GHz processor can only be overclock to 1.3GHz.
Any ideas? Developers facts can be very helpful.
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Well 1600 mhz is stable for me,I will try 2000 mhz as soon I install supported rom.About 1300 mhz max for some models looks stupid to me,I didnt read post that says that.
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XperianPro said:
Well 1600 mhz is stable for me,I will try 2000 mhz as soon I install supported rom.About 1300 mhz max for some models looks stupid to me,I didnt read post that says that.
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I've tried 2GHz on my phone, seems to be okay w/o any instability issue.
Fortunately our phone isn't maxed out at 1.3GHz, almost all kernel for our phone support up to 2GHz, what I meant is, phone like x10 seems to be maxed out at 1.3GHz. Just small increment from 1GHz to 1.3. While our phone can go all the way up from 1GHz to 2GHz doubling its default clock speed.
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i've only tried to run benchmarks on my phone up to 1.6GHz,
did not try higher speeds because i am worried about the CPU might break...
as per x kernel latest release, they have set the limit to just 1.8GHz.
seems that would be the safest our CPUs would reach but still its not same for all units.
i am not completely aware about the technical specifics of the CPU but it seems that it could have been made that way.
the only thing that would limit the CPU capabilities is the temperature and the battery capacity, since running an overclocked CPU on a 1200mAh battery is not that efficient.
You're not exactly correct OP.
My Active, with the OC Spartan kernel, goes up to 2Ghz on my device and its perfectly stable.
On my Desire Z however, stock Mhz is 800, and i have oc'd it to 1.9Ghz stable, thats over 140% (russian election pun not intended ) oc. It is one of the most highly overclockable devices yet.
So it's not only our devices that go to 100% of stock speeds. Ill remind you that companies, take some "malfuncioning" processor chips that might have a specific part of them not working, lower their speeds to make them stable chips, and then ship them out to manufacturing.
That is why some devices dont go over 1.9Ghz. Its just a matter of quality of the CPU. I know this because back in the days of the ATI9500, which was actually a ATI9700Pro, just underclocked because a pipeline was malfunctioning, so instead of throwing them away, they locked the pipeline and sold them as a lower budget Video Card. With some tools though you could unlock the pipeline and if you were lucky you could have an ATI9700Pro in the price of a ATI9500
I have one question while we are on this topic.
Our phones have MSM8225 chipset while the Arc S has MSM8255T (clocked at 1.4 GHz). I'm curious, is there any noticeable difference between these two chipsets? If there isn't why aren't our phones clocked at 1GHz?
The reason these go by 8255 and 8255T are stated in the post i made above. Same chips, different quality. It seems that not all 8255 can be stable up to 1.4-1.5Ghz, so they released a cheaper 8255 line that is clocked at 1Ghz.
dumraden said:
The reason these go by 8255 and 8255T are stated in the post i made above. Same chips, different quality. It seems that not all 8255 can be stable up to 1.4-1.5Ghz, so they released a cheaper 8255 line that is clocked at 1Ghz.
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You are completely right but I have to say that architecture has something to do as well on my old x10 mini arm6 I had a 600 MHz processor going at Max of 800 and something and now my lww arm7 can go as high as 2 ghz lol.
ginryu said:
You are completely right but I have to say that architecture has something to do as well on my old x10 mini arm6 I had a 600 MHz processor going at Max of 800 and something and now my lww arm7 can go as high as 2 ghz lol.
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The maximum CPU clock frequency is placed by kernel developer, what he thinks is fine. It is not that phone's CPU can really put up with that high clock frequency.
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The maximum CPU clock frequency is placed by kernel developer, what he thinks is fine. It is not that phone's CPU can really put up with that high clock frequency.
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Sure then the cpu had nothing to do when you clock a 600 mhz cpu to 845 mhz and it crashes?? come on that is a lame thing to say in this thread
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Sure then the cpu had nothing to do when you clock a 600 mhz cpu to 845 mhz and it crashes?? come on that is a lame thing to say in this thread
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What I ment, was that the actual maximal overclock frequency, where you can set it, is set by kernel developer.
You can set the CPU max frequency 1Ghz, 1.2Ghz, whatever. But the really maximum, which you can set, for example 2Ghz in Rage Kernel, 1.8Ghz in X Kernel, is set by kernel developer.
It is not tested that phone can put up with that high frequency. That is your own responsibility to try and risk.
Imagine cpus being made like cookies.Although you use the same ingredients not all cookies are baked the same, not matter how good your oven is.Cpus get out of the "oven" and tested for stability.The less stable are clocked lower, the more stable higher and that depends from the voltage they need to run and the maximum safe temperature that is allowed so the chip can last long time.So they say that chips which fall between A and B specifications (temp voltage etc...) are going to clocked to 1 GHz and those that range between C and D to 1.4 GHz.But those who are close to A are not the same as B, same with C and D.That's why some cpus clock better than others even though they're clocked at the same speed.At least that's how computer cpus were made if i recall correctly.
Its marketing trick.
Why should I buy WT19i when I can buy Arc S with higher clock rate.
Same processor because if processor is diffrent they would need to make new S1Boot,if in arc s is new bootloader patch wont work.
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[Q] Is my neo V still pretty safe at 1.6ghz for daily use? How to monitor temps?

Hi all,
I'm pretty new to this forum and since the time i joined I was addicted to tamper with my phone to tune it up to my likings. Now that im done rooting,unlocking and flashing I got my phone running at 1.6ghz on stock gingerbread 2.3.4 (I tried ICS but i liked GB better).
Now my question is: How safe am I when I leave my cpu speed at 1.6ghz for daily use? It gets a bit warmer than stock when playing games, but I don't know the max safe temp and I don't know how i can check the temps using software. I can only check the battery temp. I assume this can't be related to the cpu temp?
For information: It boots up just below 30°C (86°F) and I have never seen it go over 40°C (104°F) when using heavy apps.
I don't have a clue weather i'm pretty safe or if i'm starting to dig a grave for my neo V. Can someone assist me further?
Thanks on advantage
Michielwashier said:
Hi all,
I'm pretty new to this forum and since the time i joined I was addicted to tamper with my phone to tune it up to my likings. Now that im done rooting,unlocking and flashing I got my phone running at 1.6ghz on stock gingerbread 2.3.4 (I tried ICS but i liked GB better).
Now my question is: How safe am I when I leave my cpu speed at 1.6ghz for daily use? It gets a bit warmer than stock when playing games, but I don't know the max safe temp and I don't know how i can check the temps using software. I can only check the battery temp. I assume this can't be related to the cpu temp?
For information: It boots up just below 30°C (86°F) and I have never seen it go over 40°C (104°F) when using heavy apps.
I don't have a clue weather i'm pretty safe or if i'm starting to dig a grave for my neo V. Can someone assist me further?
Thanks on advantage
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its not safe to regularly overclock... the best way to monitor as you say is when the processor is in use... it becomes hot and because you OC - it becomes more hot...
use it like this if you want to cause some injury to your phone or someone or yourself
bombayboy said:
its not safe to regularly overclock... the best way to monitor as you say is when the processor is in use... it becomes hot and because you OC - it becomes more hot...
use it like this if you want to cause some injury to your phone or someone or yourself
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I know with overclocking is always a risk involved. But are u saying that 1.6ghz is way out of bound to be pretty safe for daily use? I also know that it's best to monitor when the cpu is fully utilised. But the thing is I don't know how to monitor the exact temps of my cpu and don't know how hot it is allowed to get without taking any damage.
Look, Xperia Arc S has exactly the same CPU like Xperia Neo (V) but is running @ 1,4 Ghz. In other words it's an oc by Sony!!
1,6 Ghz. Test it a while and report back.
I'm running my Neo V @ 1,4 Ghz when gaming and 0,8 Ghz for normal apps to save battery.
Good luck.
ps: on youtube u ll find videos running the neo v @ 1,9 Ghz working properly.
Michielwashier said:
Hi all,
I'm pretty new to this forum and since the time i joined I was addicted to tamper with my phone to tune it up to my likings. Now that im done rooting,unlocking and flashing I got my phone running at 1.6ghz on stock gingerbread 2.3.4 (I tried ICS but i liked GB better).
Now my question is: How safe am I when I leave my cpu speed at 1.6ghz for daily use? It gets a bit warmer than stock when playing games, but I don't know the max safe temp and I don't know how i can check the temps using software. I can only check the battery temp. I assume this can't be related to the cpu temp?
For information: It boots up just below 30°C (86°F) and I have never seen it go over 40°C (104°F) when using heavy apps.
I don't have a clue weather i'm pretty safe or if i'm starting to dig a grave for my neo V. Can someone assist me further?
Thanks on advantage
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Increasing a frequency of a processor based on it's hardware specs sheet by ARM whether it would be done by a user or the device manufacturer is still like digging a grave for you're device. It's just a matter of whether you're digging the grave with a shovel or with a teaspoon.
Overclocking above 25-30% of the stock clock speed will significantly reduce the processor's life...the safest value is 1200-1300mghz...and the fact that Xperia arcS shares exactly the same processor is not true...it is overclocked by OEM...they do this in a different way so as to be on the safer side...you can go up to 1.4ghz...but that too is not safe...and speeds above 1.6 are just for those who treat their device as a use and throw item.
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unisol107 said:
Overclocking above 25-30% of the stock clock speed will significantly reduce the processor's life...the safest value is 1200-1300mghz...and the fact that Xperia arcS shares exactly the same processor is not true...it is overclocked by OEM...they do this in a different way so as to be on the safer side...you can go up to 1.4ghz...but that too is not safe...and speeds above 1.6 are just for those who treat their device as a use and throw item.
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I oppose some of these. There's no other such thing as "it is overclocked by OEM"
1. ARM/Snapdragon doesn't quite give a full open source detail on their architecture to create different ways to mod their hardware.
2. Clocking part is handled by the kernel itself. By overclocking it you just add new and higher values and not actually modify the whole clock routine it does. I don't know the real reason why they clocked Arc S higher than other devices but only reason I could think of is "because it's flagship" I have already looked up the blueprint of our processors and well the default clock is actually 1.4ghz so 1.02ghz is still underclocked for us.
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Clock Frequencies
Recommended Maximum Clock Frequency: 1500 MHz
Technology
Semiconductor Technology: CMOS
Minimum Feature Size: 45 nm
Contacts: 904 pins
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Looks like the Arc S and other 2011 Processors are different :/ noticed the letter T on the end of their names. The one without T is indeed only 1000ghz. And out has 1 version lower on the gps module too.
Riyal said:
I oppose some of these. There's no other such thing as "it is overclocked by OEM"
1. ARM/Snapdragon doesn't quite give a full open source detail on their architecture to create different ways to mod their hardware.
2. Clocking part is handled by the kernel itself. By overclocking it you just add new and higher values and not actually modify the whole clock routine it does. I don't know the real reason why they clocked Arc S higher than other devices but only reason I could think of is "because it's flagship" I have already looked up the blueprint of our processors and well the default clock is actually 1.4ghz so 1.02ghz is still underclocked for us.
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Clock Frequencies
Recommended Maximum Clock Frequency: 1500 MHz
Technology
Semiconductor Technology: CMOS
Minimum Feature Size: 45 nm
Contacts: 904 pins
Another edit.
Looks like the Arc S and other 2011 Processors are different :/ noticed the letter T on the end of their names. The one without T is indeed only 1000ghz. And out has 1 version lower on the gps module too.
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well thanks for that useful info mate...i dont have that much knowledge about cpu architecture...my views are fundamental...and yess...i know about that "t" in arc s cpu spec...thats why said it is different...now wheather it is overclocked by sony or by qualcomm themselves is not clear to me...and also wheather it has the same architecture ...i am just saying overclocking above a certain permissible value is not good.
like you just said...the processor in neoV is just 1000mghz...so it wont do any good if it is pushed beyond the limits.
unisol107 said:
well thanks for that useful info mate...i dont have that much knowledge about cpu architecture...my views are fundamental...and yess...i know about that "t" in arc s cpu spec...thats why said it is different...now wheather it is overclocked by sony or by qualcomm themselves is not clear to me...and also wheather it has the same architecture ...i am just saying overclocking above a certain permissible value is not good.
like you just said...the processor in neoV is just 1000mghz...so it wont do any good if it is pushed beyond the limits.
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Yup and all is clear to me now Arc S and other 2011 devices have different types of CPU arch. Wonder how did this "all 2011 devices have the same CPU" gone wild.
I did some searching on this matter, nobody knows for sure weather the CPU of the arc S is exactly the same architecture but factory overclocked or if it's a different architecture and therby safe to use at 1.4ghz unlike the neo v cpu. I would really like to know an answer to this.
The Xperia Arc S is using the same processor as lower clocked devices, but it's a higher binned part. This means that I can reach higher clock speeds while consuming less power compared to a lower binned processors. The same thing happens with PC processors.
Michielwashier said:
I did some searching on this matter, nobody knows for sure weather the CPU of the arc S is exactly the same architecture but factory overclocked or if it's a different architecture and therby safe to use at 1.4ghz unlike the neo v cpu. I would really like to know an answer to this.
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After some research, I did find the spec sheet sans MSM8255T (arc S) but can confirm that it is not over clocked. What's surprised me is the official CPU for MSM8255 (neo V) has a range of 1-1.4 GHz & camera upto 12 MP. So, it would be safe to OC upto 1.4 GHz
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bombayboy said:
After some research, I did find the spec sheet sans MSM8255T (arc S) but can confirm that it is not over clocked. What's surprised me is the official CPU for MSM8255 (neo V) has a range of 1-1.4 GHz & camera upto 12 MP. So, it would be safe to OC upto 1.4 GHz
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I trust you buddy but plz can you give the source?
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Qualcomm
unisol107 said:
I trust you buddy but plz can you give the source?
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Sure. The official site of Qualcomm. It's on my office desktop. Will share a link later. A pdf.
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there you go,
http://www.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/common/snapdragon-specs-06.07.12.pdf
under S2 - MSM8255
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bombayboy said:
Sure. The official site of Qualcomm. It's on my office desktop. Will share a link later. A pdf.
Edit:
there you go,
http://www.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/common/snapdragon-specs-06.07.12.pdf
under S2 - MSM8255
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This is very interesting information! Thank you
Michielwashier said:
This is very interesting information! Thank you
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You are welcome
Still it would be safe to stay @ our capped frequency. It is all synced with other parts on the board. Use it & then remember to slide it down to 1GHz
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Our mobile compared to leading mobiles as sg3, iPhone5..

Xperia neo with 1ghz sd2, 512 ram..
I think we are way back ..
2013 is the last year for our mobile with custom roms we can go year may be less ...
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And the point of your thread/post is? Of course other than pointing to clear facts which everyone is aware.
I just wanna say that mobile technology improving much faster than we are expecting..
That's a good sign...
the majority of users wont spend more than 200euro for a phone so Yes Many new things might be created for Super-smartphones but they will still have to work on ther older ones. Most people i know buy cheap phones rather than Quad-Core phones. Mostly people dont even know what Dual-core or quad core is .
Cocluding i believe we are safe.
2013 mobile trend..
5inch 1080p
Quadcore CPU
2gb RAM
13mp camera
This is staring of the year we can expect more.... In mwc Feb 25th
deccen90 said:
2013 mobile trend..
5inch 1080p
Quadcore CPU
2gb RAM
13mp camera
This is staring of the year we can expect more.... In mwc Feb 25th
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So? Frankly hardware is not everything. Software optimisation is more important.
I know things improve real fast, but I think it's time we stop following the trend. It is very costly to buy new phones every year.
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jasonwsc said:
So? Frankly hardware is not everything. Software optimisation is more important.
I know things improve real fast, but I think it's time we stop following the trend. It is very costly to buy new phones every year.
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Yeah mate I agree !
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A good example is the jb update for the t, now has 800mb of free ram after boot, with ics 400....
Also in benchmark tests( if thats your thing) it is now out performing the HTC one x with its four cores.
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Benchmarks aren't a justifiable source to see your phone's performance!
Like mpiekp already told!
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Benchmarks aren't a justifiable source to see your phone's performance!
Like mpiekp already told!
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I don't have money for a Xperia S or Ion, so i have to be happy with Neo L.
1Ghz, 512mb ram is mid-range. Dual core, 512~1024mb ram is high-end, and if you **** money.... premium class, Xperia Z, S3, One X, iPhone 5....
This are ok specs for Neo series. HTC One V, same SoC, Samsung Galaxy Ace is 180 euros....lol, not much choice in mid-range area.
Here's something strange I encountered yesterday :
My brother has HTC explorer ( gb, pure stock untouched, 600 MHz MSM7225A, Adreno 200 ) .... Pretty well below average huh?
Now mine ( Sony lww, ICS, MSM8255, Adreno 205, rooted , unlocked, bloatfree, custom rom& kernel, updated drivers, oc to 1.4 GHz ) ( Everything I could do to increase performance )
Who's the winner ? Mine ?
I played subway surfers on both. On HTC, due to its weak hardware, extreme lags are plausible. But devs are smart. When the game ran, it did not ran at full FPS ( say at 22 FPS rather than 30 ) . This way load reduces on both CPU and GPU so they have to calculate less instructions. This results in fairly good performance ( No extreme lags, touch responds all the time etc )
Now, for LWW, game tried to run at full 30 FPS. This means load on CPU and particularly GPU is maximum. Hence most of the time it ran real smooth but sometimes when 3D models became prominent, it lagged badly and my touch stopped responding. Result , the kid banged his head on a train engine .
Thus, it's not the hardware but software optimizations. One can point that I'm comparing gb and ICS. But still ( 600 MHz + heavy sense ) . That settles the seesaw.
( Not to mention, our devices on gb beat hell out of HTC exp. )
That's what we are not getting from Sony (swo)... compared to other manufacturers ics builds
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