Is there any way that maybe I've missed to either a) root the TMo GS3 without triggering the counter (I saw methods for AT&T and others) or b) reset the counter after triggering it? I've searched and searched without finding anything. Is there anything out there or would it be fairly simple to create something? I'm willing to get my hands dirty to create this if somebody is able to help me through he process.
Are the methods AT&T users use reproducible for us?
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I'm looking for a way too. Havent rooted yet till I find a way. I have 30 days to try out Tmo through costco but I want to root so I can restore my apps+ data back via titanium.
aznmode said:
I'm looking for a way too. Havent rooted yet till I find a way. I have 30 days to try out Tmo through costco but I want to root so I can restore my apps+ data back via titanium.
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Costco is the best! Great prices on phones too! There will be a way to reset it eventually. That is my GUESS.
Okay, I've found the process for creating the proper files so this can be done. It'll just be a specific Odin file, slightly tweaked from a stock Odin file.
I've never tried this before although it seems to be fairly standard with Galaxy devices. I don't believe ANYBODY has ever tried this on a T999 before.
I'm thinking I'll have something to test with this weekend. Anybody interested in helping me to test this? If you do, you do so knowing that this may
1) trigger your counter anyways, and
2) brick your phone into oblivion and make it blow up and kill your dog
If anybody's willing to take the plunge, I'll chime back in later to coordinate the testing. I need others to risk triggering their counter as I have 1 and only 1 device with the counter still at 0 and I want to personally see it successfully in action before I publicly release it. But if I miss something and trigger my counter, then I'll never be able to test it again until we find a way to reset the counter.
Thanks for taking the initiative. Hope you get successful results.
It's a triple digit counter. Go over 999 it resets
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Android_Monsters said:
It's a triple digit counter. Go over 999 it resets
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LOL! Nice!
Android_Monsters said:
It's a triple digit counter. Go over 999 it resets
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That's a lot of flashing lol
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I'm replacing this handset I'll be the guniue pig. Also mobile Odin pro offers a root without triggering the counter
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MacTheRipperr said:
I'm replacing this handset I'll be the guniue pig. Also mobile Odin pro offers a root without triggering the counter
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Really?? Can you link me up with some info, please?
Looking at the description in Play:
!!! Your device must be rooted to be able to use Mobile ODIN. Check the list below to see if your device is supported !!!
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^Right, you have to be rooted, so your counter will already be at 1 at least.
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^Right, you have to be rooted, so your counter will already be at 1 at least.
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Okay, gotcha. So my method is still necessary to avoid that first counter trigger. Thanks for the clarification.
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I'm replacing this handset I'll be the guniue pig.
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Hit me up on Twitter (@Jaxidian) or GTalk (Jaxidian)? I'll get you Dropbox links when I have this ready (will be doing it over the weekend unless something comes up).
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Anybody else interested in helping test? Remember, I'm probably going to brick your phone and make it turn into a Decepticon where it'll kill your goldfish. And more realistically, if I mess it up, it'll probably be a soft-brick that will require a stock Odin flash and/or it'll trigger your flash counter.
So I'm mostly finished creating the file for this but I'm stopping. mrRobinson beat me to it, and apparently did so last night!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687
i rooted my Samsung galaxy s2 and when bootup show yellow triangle and i can't install triangle away and i can't find stock ROM for solve triangle problem
information of my device in attachment it is picture earnomadeplease help me
thank in advance
Why you can't install Triangle Away?
Is triangle away for ICS ROMs only?
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Is triangle away for ICS ROMs only?
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Yes, it is.
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Yes, it is.
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Thanks for confirming hope OP now realises why it isn't working.
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what about my problem can i slove it?
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what about my problem can i slove it?
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It's not really a problem. The triangle doesn't affect you really. It's just an indicator that you the kernel you last flashed while the phone was in download mode was not signed by Samsung.
If it bothers you that much, you can either:
a) flash your stock kernel back while your phone is in download mode (via Odin/Heimdall/whatever)
b) use a USB jib, assuming your bootloader is old enough that a jig works.
Otherwise, you can just ignore the triangle. It doesn't affect your usage or performance of the phone whatsoever.
Agreed, I can confirm that the triangle and binary count does not affect the operation of your phone in anyway. I still have mine and see no reason to remove it at present.
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Entropy512 has provided assurance that Triangle Away should be the tool of choice for reseting the flash counter on SGH-I777 devices. Please see his post later in this thread.
Following is the original post:
Triangle Away is a potentially good tool for resetting the flash counter.
However, there is a not insignificant risk in using it since it makes modifications within the actual bootloader. Further, while it does work on our phone, the SGH-I777 is not listed under supported devices in the developer Chainfire's original Triangle Away thread.
Chainfire has the following to say in the OP of that thread:
Chainfire said:
THIS IS A DANGEROUS OPERATION AND COULD POTENTIALLY BRICK YOUR DEVICE. PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK. A USB JIG IS PREFERRED IF YOU HAVE A WORKING ONE.
( and by brick I mean brick - only a board replacement or a JTAG unit will be able to save you, don't mess with boot(loader) stuff unless you really mean it! )
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So, please think a little bit before blithely recommending Triangle Away. And please do not intimate that since Triangle Away is available, it should be the first choice. Actually, the first choice for resetting the flash counter and removing the warning boot screen on our phones is a USB jig.
Wow. Thanks for this man I seriously had no idea the risk was that great. I saw the warning before but just assumed it was like most that developers post saying that its not their fault if this bricks your phone or poisons your dog and all that. I'll definitely be changing what I recommend to users regarding this. Cheers!
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$2 jig from Ebay is definitely the better way to go. Got mine in the closet somewhere if I ever needed it.
I definitely used triangle away on my phone with no problems, and have recommended it before. After reading the op's post, I feel pretty dang lucky I still have a working i777 and hope my recommendation did not hurt anybody else's device. Thanks for posting this and for the warning...
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Actually, the first choice for resetting the flash counter and removing the warning boot screen on our phones is a USB jig.
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According to this thread, the jig method of resetting the counter was disabled by AT&T on later GB bootloaders and ICS. Unless JB allows for it, the only way to remove the triangle on current roms is to either use Triangle Away or to never increment it in the first place, as per that thread.
As far as that warning goes, any software that interacts with the phone on that low of a level carries the same warning. Every rom, kernel, modem, flashable zip, kernel tweaker, and OC/UV has it. Nothing new here.
Yeah creepy i think is saying this cause some people have posted threads that they've used this app and bricked their devices. I've used it in the past just fine, but haven't in a long while .
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...As far as that warning goes, any software that interacts with the phone on that low of a level carries the same warning. Every rom, kernel, modem, flashable zip, kernel tweaker, and OC/UV has it. Nothing new here.
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I can't agree with this statement. Yes, any firmware that interacts with the phone on a low level, i.e. bootloaders, param.lfs, etc. should include a warning because there is a real risk of hard bricking the phone which can only be recovered with jtag or motherboard replacement. But there is verly little risk of a true hard brick when flashing a kernel, a system partition, or a modem. Since the beginning, there have been no firmware packages in this forum that include bootloaders and other more critical parts of the firmware.
Triangle away is a useful tool, even for our phone, but the point is that it is certainly not the first choice to clear the warning triangle, or reset the flash counter.
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According to this thread, the jig method of resetting the counter was disabled by AT&T on later GB bootloaders and ICS. Unless JB allows for it, the only way to remove the triangle on current roms is to either use Triangle Away or to never increment it in the first place, as per that thread.
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You are mis-quoting me. As far as I am aware, the only crippled bootloaders were included in the ICS leaks before AT&T released the official ICS. I'm definitely not aware of any I777 phones, new or refurbished, being received with crippled bootloaders.
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You are mis-quoting me. As far as I am aware, the only crippled bootloaders were included in the ICS leaks before AT&T released the official ICS. I'm definitely not aware of any I777 phones, new or refurbished, being received with crippled bootloaders.
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I'm very sure I quoted you quite precisely. I made no mention of the bootloaders that came with the ICS leaks being the culprits. The thread I linked to does mention that, but it also mentions that functionality being removed on the last GB update that AT&T released. I can vouch for that the last official GB bootloaders removed that functionality. I have not had the chance to try it with the official ICS bootloader.
So, in order to reset the counter, you would have to revert to the old bootloaders, which is equally, if not more-so dangerous than using this app. Unless that functionality made it back into the official ICS bootloaders, then my point is moot.
I've used it on my i777 with i9100 bootloaders. Ran it twice actually. No problems so far . *shrug
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You are mis-quoting me. As far as I am aware, the only crippled bootloaders were included in the ICS leaks before AT&T released the official ICS. I'm definitely not aware of any I777 phones, new or refurbished, being received with crippled bootloaders.
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Actually, creepy I recently received a replacement gs2 after my usb port crashed. Upon receiving it, I rooted it, causing the flash counter to go up. When I tried using my jig to change it back to 0, all it did was put my phone into download mode, without erasing the data. I assume this is because when I received my phone is was running ics so att must have changed the bootloaders
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Actually, creepy I recently received a replacement gs2 after my usb port crashed. Upon receiving it, I rooted it, causing the flash counter to go up. When I tried using my jig to change it back to 0, all it did was put my phone into download mode, without erasing the data. I assume this is because when I received my phone is was running ics so att must have changed the bootloaders
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You can always grab the older boot loaders from the 'Return to stock' sticky in the dev forum and flash em back...
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You can always grab the older boot loaders from the 'Return to stock' sticky in the dev forum and flash em back...
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Yes, but that's just as risky as using triangleaway - which means creepys advice concerning a jig being the better option is irrelevant.
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Yes, but that's just as risky as using triangleaway - which means creepys advice concerning a jig being the better option is irrelevant.
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No flashing the stock 2.3.4 bootloaders in theory only gets risky if you're trying to flash it with like 10% battery left. Its not like the bunk kernels from ATT with the brick bug or trying to flash recovery with ROM Manager. Flashing the boot loaders (or any component) with Odin/Mobile Odin carries the same 'simple' risk flashing any firmware does. Follow the directions and you 'technically' shouldn't need to worry.
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No flashing the stock 2.3.4 bootloaders in theory only gets risky if you're trying to flash it with like 10% battery left. Its not like the bunk kernels from ATT with the brick bug or trying to flash recovery with ROM Manager. Flashing the boot loaders (or any component) with Odin/Mobile Odin carries the same 'simple' risk flashing any firmware does. Follow the directions and you 'technically' shouldn't need to worry.
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Doesn't matter. Creepy's argument was that using triangleaway is risky because it involves alterations involving the bootloaders. So using his logic, flashing those bootloaders is likewise risky, and if a jig doesn't work any longer, triangleaway is just as viable an alternative as flashing old bootloaders is.
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@benjamingdelacruz,
Thanks for the info about your phone coming with ICS and a crippled bootloader. That is the first confirmation I have seen of that for the I777. It's not surprising, I guess. The SGS III and other new models also can not be reset with the jig.
As far as the difference between flashing the original secondary bootloader vs using Triangle Away, I guess I mostly agree with you that both are dangerous. The danger with flashing a bootloader is that the power goes off or the cable is unplugged or something else interrupts the flash during the few seconds it takes to actually transfer the bootloader code. With Triangle Away, the program is actually opening and writing to a data register that is controlled by and stored within the secondary bootloader code. I have no idea what could go wrong with that. Maybe more chance for problems than the other. I don't know.
Regardless of all this, I still feel that we should not blithely recommend Triangle Away as the first choice for this phone. And it is especially important that people understand that using Triangle Away is not a normal safe operation.
For anyone not on the new ICS boot loaders, a jig seems the safer solution. Plus, I like grapes. I've never personally had any reason to flash different boot loaders, but glad we got confirmation this is an issue with the new ics ones.
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Must be hit or miss, the jig worked on the i777 I got as a replacement with ICS already installed.
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Never had problems using it.
Triangle away works right now, and it's free. A jig costs, and I have to wait for it to ship and arrive.
I'll keep using triangle away. If I brick XDA will be first to know..
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Triangle away works right now, and it's free. A jig costs, and I have to wait for it to ship and arrive.
I'll keep using triangle away. If I brick XDA will be first to know..
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Well in all fairness, if u did brick yer phone after knowing the risks and seeing this thread, itd be kinda silly to post yer brick question here.
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My i9100m was having some problems so I sent it in to samsung under the manufacturers warranty. I flashed the stock rom but forget to reset the flash counter. Is this a bad thing and what will happen if they figure out that my phone has been rooted?
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My i9100m was having some problems so I sent it in to samsung under the manufacturers warranty. I flashed the stock rom but forget to reset the flash counter. Is this a bad thing and what will happen if they figure out that my phone has been rooted?
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What did you send it to them for?
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My phone wasn't recognized on my computer.
colebesner said:
My phone wasn't recognized on my computer.
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i have sent back a alot phones for repairs in past to samsung only 1 time i did the same thing forgot to reset counter... i sent back phone for hardware issue and they still fixed it .... they have 2 departments software and one hardware,, so if going to software not sure what will happen being its a software issue... just cross your fingers .....
No point fretting about it now. Not like you can do anything about it. If they check it, they're well within their rights to deny you warranty service/replacement.
If they don't check it/don't care, then you have nothing to worry about.
I've noticed on my phone that on the right side my phone is developing dust in it and on close inspection you can see that there's a big gap compared to everywhere else. I've had the phone for a few months on contract and got it through carphone warehouse and after speaking to them they said they will send it back to Samsung.
I'm on a custom ROM and need to get back to stock and reset my flash counter to get my warranty back. I've got an idea how to do it but would appreciate your guys expert knowledge. I've read that you need to use triangle away but heard people say that it can break your touchscreen.
Thanks.
Use the guide in the stickies. Easy like that.
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Use the guide in the stickies. Easy like that.
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On the triangle away thread it says if you're on s3 you need to be on stock rom for it to work but the instructions on the sticky don't say that plus he's using ICS.
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148708
Triangle away also runs with custom roms as it is more connected to the bootloader (?) Or recovery then the rom.
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