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Sorry, about posting this on the Lumia 800 forum but there doesn't seem to be a 710 forum. Anyway, my question is that there seems to be some rumor that the Lumia 710 being sold by Rogers is pentaband. There is a video of it unlocked and working with Wind. I'm wondering if anyone here can really confirm if it does support all the 3G bands. If so it seems like a really nice deal as they sell it for $250 no contract there and around $300 on Negri/Expensys. Thanks.
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I am having problems with the Lumia 710 I bought! I have it unlocked to work on Mobilicity and it works, however, there is a problem with the phone where any case I put on the phone causes an echo with the other caller Im calling. The other side here's an echo on their phone and it is the Lumia that is the problem. Stupid Rogers store is not willing to take it back and exchange it because I unlocked it! This is crazy, even customer service gives me the work around. Im gonna try Nokia and see what they can do, but I would advise you to buy it somewhere else even though its more expensive, otherwise you can get screwed like me.
Take the case off.....
My wife has the same phone and has a case on hers and sounds just fine.
Now the 1st one sounded horrific without a case, but exchanged it out hassle free.
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I can confirm the Rogers Lumia 710 is pentaband!
I unlocked it and using it on Mobilicity. Yes you can buy off contract for $254.99 plus taxes.
The Rogers website is not showing correct frequencies, but use this website as confirmation.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_710-4276.php
Hope that helps ! I would imagine anyone on WIND and Mobilicity reading this will be quite happy. Also AT&T users would be happy too as the T-Mobile version is not pentaband but since Rogers and AT&T use same frequencies the Rogers Lumia 710 is pretty much a slam dunk. It would still need unlocking but that can be had online for $9. Also note this phone is a microSIM phone so a sim cutter would be needed. Most phone shops will do that for you if you ask.
Thank you very much! That is an awesome deal for a pentaband phone. Only thing missing and a front facing camera.
Yes... but the price point can't be beat. For front facing camera we will have to wait for the Lumia 900. Hopefully they make that with Pentaband frequencies. Worst case is they will make a model/version for T-Mobile and those of us on WIND and Mobilicity can use those. Or would would WIND and Mobilicity be smart enough to bring that phone into the line up? Let's hope so!
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Hi, just wondering how the quality of Lumia on Mobilicity is? Read other places that drops signal / slow to regain signal. Have you had that issue?
Thanks!
Sorry... I didn't see this post. So far so good. I have not expirienced dropped calls or anything. I'm primarily in north end of suburbs and quite often north of the area coverage and still get Mobilicity connection. Even when in Stouffville !
I've had an HTC HD7 on T-Mobile for a good solid three years now, but it has become outdated and I need a new phone.
All the Windows Phones on T-Mobile are very crappy (in my opinion) and the phone I would love to have would be the Lumia 920.
My only problem is, it doesn't exist. My question is: If I were to buy a Lumia 920 locked to AT&T off of eBay, then get an unlock code, would it be possible to have it running with at least 3G speeds? All the radio frequencies point to yes, but I would like to check here first.
Thanks!
Bobsteriffic said:
I've had an HTC HD7 on T-Mobile for a good solid three years now, but it has become outdated and I need a new phone.
All the Windows Phones on T-Mobile are very crappy (in my opinion) and the phone I would love to have would be the Lumia 920.
My only problem is, it doesn't exist. My question is: If I were to buy a Lumia 920 locked to AT&T off of eBay, then get an unlock code, would it be possible to have it running with at least 3G speeds? All the radio frequencies point to yes, but I would like to check here first.
Thanks!
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if you read around, all at&t lumias 820 & 920 are locked. there is a rare rare chance of getting an unlock code from AT&T. All the sites in the web are scams. It would be better to buy a Rogers Unlocked 920 because: 1. they have the same antennas as AT&T, some say the phones are pentaband and 2. they are already unlocked.
or get an international unlocked. some reports stated you can flash the firmware from other countries and get AWS.
Long story short, unless you want straight talk which is powered by AT&T, you wont have a good chance of getting an AT&T lumia sim unlocked
hope i am wrong. working on getting a code or two time will tell
jhr said:
if you read around, all at&t lumias 820 & 920 are locked. there is a rare rare chance of getting an unlock code from AT&T. All the sites in the web are scams. It would be better to buy a Rogers Unlocked 920 because: 1. they have the same antennas as AT&T, some say the phones are pentaband and 2. they are already unlocked.
or get an international unlocked. some reports stated you can flash the firmware from other countries and get AWS.
Long story short, unless you want straight talk which is powered by AT&T, you wont have a good chance of getting an AT&T lumia sim unlocked
hope i am wrong. working on getting a code or two time will tell
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Can you point me towards the direction of the Rogers Lumia? I've heard about them but I have no idea where to find them.
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Can you point me towards the direction of the Rogers Lumia? I've heard about them but I have no idea where to find them.
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eBay.
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Can you point me towards the direction of the Rogers Lumia? I've heard about them but I have no idea where to find them.
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https://www.google.com/#hl=en&outpu...94,d.aWM&fp=e404425d9557a858&biw=1680&bih=834
google search my friend, anyways ebay is good, like other stated, craigslist but rare. negri electronics, expansys. there is a canadian retailer that sells them and ships them to the USA, but in the long run buying new and out of country will cost you a shinnier penny than at AT&T
go to http://forums.wpcentral.com/marketplace-buy-sell-trade/
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Can you point me towards the direction of the Rogers Lumia? I've heard about them but I have no idea where to find them.
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Bought mine at canadagsm.ca and had it in my hands 3 days later in Miami. And, so far is the best phone I've owned. It is a pentaband so it will work with T-MOBILE. Also, I have none of the problems others are mentionning on this forum (dust in front of the FFC, etc ...).
SO, I'm very satisfied !!!
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I'm on T-Mobile as well. I ended up purchasing a Lumia 920 international unlocked (Polish variant). The international variant uses the same 3G frequency as the AT&T variant (1900 MHz 3G).
T-Mobile has been refarming their network and they are now running 3G on 1900 MHz as well, in addition to the original 1700 MHz.
If you're in the Mill Creek, WA area, I can't tell you how the 1900 MHz 3G network performs since I'm not in that area. However, I live in Bellevue, go to UW and work in Shoreline and 3G coverage on the 1900 MHz network has been pretty good. At UW, I can get anywhere between 7-15 Mbit/sec.
To answer your question, yes an AT&T version will have 3G on T-Mobile's network, but only if you're in an area that has received refarming.
Hope this helps. Feel free to send any more questions my way!
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I'm on T-Mobile as well. I ended up purchasing a Lumia 920 international unlocked (Polish variant). The international variant uses the same 3G frequency as the AT&T variant (1900 MHz 3G).
T-Mobile has been refarming their network and they are now running 3G on 1900 MHz as well, in addition to the original 1700 MHz.
If you're in the Mill Creek, WA area, I can't tell you how the 1900 MHz 3G network performs since I'm not in that area. However, I live in Bellevue, go to UW and work in Shoreline and 3G coverage on the 1900 MHz network has been pretty good. At UW, I can get anywhere between 7-15 Mbit/sec.
To answer your question, yes an AT&T version will have 3G on T-Mobile's network, but only if you're in an area that has received refarming.
Hope this helps. Feel free to send any more questions my way!
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Now this here is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! Now all I need to do is to find an unlock code for the AT&T Lumia 920
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Now this here is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you! Now all I need to do is to find an unlock code for the AT&T Lumia 920
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Good luck as right now they don't exist. The sites claiming to have them are scams. Those claiming to have received one are most likely working for or being paid by those same scam sites.
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Good luck as right now they don't exist. The sites claiming to have them are scams. Those claiming to have received one are most likely working for or being paid by those same scam sites.
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This is true. Do NOT give your money to any site claiming to unlock the AT&T 920. It will only be possible for those sites to do so after May 9th, and then still only buy it from reputable sites!
The ONLY way to unlock an AT&T 920 is if you're an AT&T customer and push really hard with the customer support. It might also be only customers with accounts on business discounts (tied to your work email) that are able to get it. I get premier business customer support when I call in to AT&T and I even had to argue on the phone for 60 minutes in total with all the reps I talked to before I was able to get them to submit an unlock request.
Is anyone here using an international (RM-821) or Roger's version of the Lumia 920 on with ATT with an unlimited non-smartphone data plan?
I know LTE won't work nor am I concerned about it, I'd rather keep my grandfathered non-smartphone data plan.
You won't be able to. AT&T scan the IEMI numbers of phones that are connected to their network. That number tells them the brand, model, and type of phone it is. As soon as they see you have put a smart on their network they will force you to buy a data plan fort that phone. AT&T require all smart phone customers to have a data plan. If you don't they will slap one on you.
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Is anyone here using an international (RM-821) or Roger's version of the Lumia 920 on with ATT with an unlimited non-smartphone data plan?
I know LTE won't work nor am I concerned about it, I'd rather keep my grandfathered non-smartphone data plan.
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They apparently started detecting ALL Lumia 920s a few weeks back according to some postings from users of non-AT&T 920s.
Currently the T-Mobile HTC 8X does not get detected as a smartphone. It's not as nice as the 920 but it's almost as good. Fully supports AT&T 3G with all functions working including tethering on the non-smartphone plan. You can find this for $250-$300 on eBay. Unlocking costs $7.
The Verizon model of the 8X does get detected. It has Qi Wireless charging but MMS doesn't work because of some BS Verizon did to the OS.
Also I have tested the Canadian Samsung ATIV S T899M on AT&T and that also does not get detected and fully supports AT&T 3G also with all functions working including tethering. It has LTE Band 4 but AT&T needs LTE Band 17 for most of its network (a very small amount runs on band 4). LTE doesn't matter if you're using the non-smartphone data plan though because you do not have access to it with that plan. I do not know if the international ATIV S I8750 gets detected or if it is fully compatible. The T899M is around $450.
You won't be able to get a 920 but those two are about as good, and arguably I think the ATIV S is better than the 920. I really like my LTE though so I put it on one of my lines on the non-smartphone plan.
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They apparently started detecting ALL Lumia 920s a few weeks back according to some postings from users of non-AT&T 920s.
Currently the T-Mobile HTC 8X does not get detected as a smartphone. It's not as nice as the 920 but it's almost as good. Fully supports AT&T 3G with all functions working including tethering on the non-smartphone plan. You can find this for $250-$300 on eBay. Unlocking costs $7.
The Verizon model of the 8X does get detected. It has Qi Wireless charging but MMS doesn't work because of some BS Verizon did to the OS.
Also I have tested the Canadian Samsung ATIV S T899M on AT&T and that also does not get detected and fully supports AT&T 3G also with all functions working including tethering. It has LTE Band 4 but AT&T needs LTE Band 17 for most of its network (a very small amount runs on band 4). LTE doesn't matter if you're using the non-smartphone data plan though because you do not have access to it with that plan. I do not know if the international ATIV S I8750 gets detected or if it is fully compatible. The T899M is around $450.
You won't be able to get a 920 but those two are about as good, and arguably I think the ATIV S is better than the 920. I really like my LTE though so I put it on one of my lines on the non-smartphone plan.
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It would seem as if most of T-Mobile's WP's are safe on ATT. I have been using the Lumia 810 for the last 4 months on my data plan without issues although I'd prefer the 920. I guess for the time being I'll stay with the 810, or if I can find a Roger's version of the 920 for a good price I'll take a chance and buy it. Worst case is ATT flags it and I switch to T-Mobile
Has anyone confirmed if the ATT version of the Lumia 920 supports 1700 AWS? Thanks again for the responses.
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It would seem as if most of T-Mobile's WP's are safe on ATT. I have been using the Lumia 810 for the last 4 months on my data plan without issues although I'd prefer the 920. I guess for the time being I'll stay with the 810, or if I can find a Roger's version of the 920 for a good price I'll take a chance and buy it. Worst case is ATT flags it and I switch to T-Mobile
Has anyone confirmed if the ATT version of the Lumia 920 supports 1700 AWS? Thanks again for the responses.
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They WILL catch the Rogers 920.
The AT&T version can be forced to support 1700 AWS 3G by flashing a different ROM. Someone has outlined the steps to do it somewhere in the 920 forum. I think in the development section.
Any reason you really don't want the 8X or the ATIV S? The 8X has limited storage but the ATIV S has microSD, large screen, light body, and removable and larger battery.
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They WILL catch the Rogers 920.
The AT&T version can be forced to support 1700 AWS 3G by flashing a different ROM. Someone has outlined the steps to do it somewhere in the 920 forum. I think in the development section.
Any reason you really don't want the 8X or the ATIV S? The 8X has limited storage but the ATIV S has microSD, large screen, light body, and removable and larger battery.
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Good to know the ATT version can support 1700AWS, something to keep in mind especially since the exclusivity period is almost over.
About the other models you mentioned, I'm not a big fan of HTC phones although the ATIV S is an option. I didn't really know much about it since I am fairly new to WP with the Lumia 810 being my first device. I just happened to chance upon WP when I needed to replace my Nokia N8and got a good deal on the 810 from one of my coworkers who couldn't get the hang of WP.
In all honesty, the Lumia 810 isn't all that bad despite the fact it was EOL'd by T-Mobile after a mere 5 months.
Disappointed that it has lost the Xenon flash that they have put on the 928 but not on the 925, rather a missed opportunity in my view. No idea why they reduced the internal memory on it over the 920 as well. Was hoping for more an international version of the 928 than what we actually got.
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_925_announced-news-6030.php
Seems their main goal with this device was to get the size down for those that thought the 920 was too chunky. It sucks that this and the 928 are coming out 6-7 months after the 920, and I hope whatever they got from their at&t exclusivity contract was worth it.
It appears to be all about the cosmetic changes & very little else. I cannot imagine many owners of the 920 would swap it for the 925.
For any normal smartphone manufacturer, this would be relegated to midrange status. Yes it is slimmed down, but that's nothing special that would add to the cost. It has the exact specs as the Lumia 920 that's 7 months old now and even has only half the storage, the same path a budget minded refresh of an old flagship phone would usually take. Except in Nokia's case, it's considered a freakin' flagship phone and cost just as much. Nokia is still living in its own little world. Maybe it's because they are the only player in the Windows Phone arena and don't have competition forcing some sense into them.
On the bright side, they were able to downsize the phone with optical stabilization down to 8.5mm. But that also brings up another important question. Why the hell wasn't the 920 this skinny, and instead so bleeping fat? Did Nokia have to learn how to make mainstream sized phones over the course of 2012 and somehow the 920 was an experiment, a learning project? There are no name Chinese manufacturers with 6mm phones, with better specs and bigger batteries, and for all intents and purposes, the same durability. It may not feel as "premium" but that's the only knock you can give. I always thought the optical stabilization was the cause for the 920's 11mm chubbiness. Apparently no. It was Nokia's own incompetence in phonemaking. It's also ironic t hat Nokia can be so innovative in things like camera stabilization and high DB mics, but pair said stabilization and mics with a subpar 8MP sensor that even with a million updates and software trickery and extra lenses, still looks like blurry crap.
katamari201 said:
Why the hell wasn't the 920 this skinny, and instead so bleeping fat? Did Nokia have to learn how to make mainstream sized phones over the course of 2012 and somehow the 920 was an experiment, a learning project?
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The 925 lacks the inductive charging capability unless you attach the (ugly) charging cover. Once you do that you've got a thick phone again.
^^ Yep its the lack of wireless charging ^^
I think it looks like a nice phone, The lesser storage is a real pain but have so far managed with just 16GB for this long, The lack of wireless charging is not a deal breaker however but would have been nice to see a few more colour options although I know they are aiming for a different market,
I do agree that this isn't really worthy of flagship status and not an upgrade from the 920 and not even much of an upgrade from the 900 I still use, Think I will wait for the Fall to see what delights await then lol.
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^^ Yep its the lack of wireless charging ^^
I think it looks like a nice phone, The lesser storage is a real pain but have so far managed with just 16GB for this long, The lack of wireless charging is not a deal breaker however but would have been nice to see a few more colour options although I know they are aiming for a different market,
I do agree that this isn't really worthy of flagship status and not an upgrade from the 920 and not even much of an upgrade from the 900 I still use, Think I will wait for the Fall to see what delights await then lol.
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True. Its not really going to be the flagship, but with new marketing and a renewed push, it will be able to keep Nokia in the news, right up until the next real flagship is unveiled. We all know how badly we are waiting for the 41mp EOS. Combine a full HD screen and maybe some other innovations, it would be just downright amazing.
I don't know if they thought by including only 16Gb of internal memory it was going to make people suddenly use cloud storage instead.
I think 928 will work for AT&T and T-mobile
http://blog.gsmarena.com/verizons-nokia-lumia-928-works-on-att-and-t-mobiles-networks-too/
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I think 928 will work for AT&T and T-mobile
http://blog.gsmarena.com/verizons-nokia-lumia-928-works-on-att-and-t-mobiles-networks-too/
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Sounds like it would be OK in the UK on the 900 bands that Vodafone & O2 use?
I actually prefer the look of the 928 over the 925, Now if this would work on O2 uk then maybe worth considering
I'm extremely surprised no-one's mentioned the sixth lens element they're including on the lumia 925. (Which they haven't given to the 928)
As far as I'm concerned that's way better than having a xenon flash. In fact, as far as I'm concerned any camera phone photo taken with a flash looks awful and washed out. The 925 will give you ISO up to 3200. ON A PHONE. I was impressed anyway.
Yes, they're improving the software algorithms for the 920 too with a firmware update, but this extra lens on the 925 is the icing for me.
The 920 has epic low light capability but was let down by soft daylight photos. Hopefully this 6th lens they've brought in to address this will put it a little ahead of what at the moment is still the no.1 camera on a phone - iphone 5 (no haters please, it's the truth).
Very excited.
AndyFZ1S said:
^^ Yep its the lack of wireless charging ^^
I think it looks like a nice phone, The lesser storage is a real pain but have so far managed with just 16GB for this long, The lack of wireless charging is not a deal breaker however but would have been nice to see a few more colour options although I know they are aiming for a different market,
I do agree that this isn't really worthy of flagship status and not an upgrade from the 920 and not even much of an upgrade from the 900 I still use, Think I will wait for the Fall to see what delights await then lol.
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I can tell you that Lumia 920 is indeed a big upgrade from the 900.
I got the 900 when it was fresh on the market, and likewise with the 920.
What you first will notice, is the smoothness in the 920 menus compared to the older phone.
There is also an increase in performance, most noticeable in 3d games, here drive and when surfing the web, pages rendering much quicker, and so on.
I will also point out the camera as a big upgrade on the 920.
While taking still photos, it produces much clearer pictures compared to the 900.
But it is when you are making videos the 920 really start to show off.
I like to go to black metal concerts and get drunk. And after I got the 920, I have started filming a bit.
So I get crystal clear, steady videos. Even when I am to drunk to even remember anything.
The sound is also excellent.
Try this for yourself.
I would recommend switching to the 920. No doubt about it, as it will be a major upgrade for you.
ottoen said:
I can tell you that Lumia 920 is indeed a big upgrade from the 900.
I got the 900 when it was fresh on the market, and likewise with the 920.
What you first will notice, is the smoothness in the 920 menus compared to the older phone.
There is also an increase in performance, most noticeable in 3d games, here drive and when surfing the web, pages rendering much quicker, and so on.
I will also point out the camera as a big upgrade on the 920.
While taking still photos, it produces much clearer pictures compared to the 900.
But it is when you are making videos the 920 really start to show off.
I like to go to black metal concerts and get drunk. And after I got the 920, I have started filming a bit.
So I get crystal clear, steady videos. Even when I am to drunk to even remember anything.
The sound is also excellent.
Try this for yourself.
I would recommend switching to the 920. No doubt about it, as it will be a major upgrade for you.
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Thought we were talking about the 925 I have both the 920 and 900 and believe me the difference is marginal in battery life and performance, I don't play 3d games on my phone so cant comment on that, The camera is obviously a big difference due to the tech involved, but as a daily driver they differ only slightly
And on a different note, Vodafone UK offering a 32GB Lumia 925 for preorder in Black compared to O2 UK 16GB White effort.
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Thought we were talking about the 925 I have both the 920 and 900 and believe me the difference is marginal in battery life and performance, I don't play 3d games on my phone so cant comment on that, The camera is obviously a big difference due to the tech involved, but as a daily driver they differ only slightly
And on a different note, Vodafone UK offering a 32GB Lumia 925 for preorder in Black compared to O2 UK 16GB White effort.
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I will be the first one to admit I do not know all these LTE bands and what they mean; however, I live in the deep, deep woods and know for a fact that there will never be any AT&T 4G LTE or Verizon Wireless 4G LTE and likely no T-Mobile whatsoever. What I need to know is whether the 925 and 928 variants will run on the AT&T compatible networks at HSPA+ and assuming of course the devices are subsidy (carrier) unlocked; thanks!
Lumia 928:
GSM network: 1800 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1900 MHz
WCDMA network: 900 MHz, 2100 MHz, 1900 MHz, 850 MHz
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GSM network: 1800 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1900 MHz
WCDMA network: 900 MHz, 2100 MHz, 1900 MHz, 850 MHz
Hope that helps.
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True. Its not really going to be the flagship, but with new marketing and a renewed push, it will be able to keep Nokia in the news, right up until the next real flagship is unveiled. We all know how badly we are waiting for the 41mp EOS. Combine a full HD screen and maybe some other innovations, it would be just downright amazing.
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Is this phone's operating system, Windows Phone 8 or something altogether different like what Symbian use to be? What the 925 has is what quite a few of us want...T-Mobile's Wi-Fi calling app and what's left of us that are still hanging on to WP7.8 is Skype to work like it does over on Android. Frankly, if Skype works, I don't need T-Mobile, but I do need the capacity to make a Wi-Fi call and for those of you who are fans of Google, Viber, MetroTalk, and WhatsApp...none of them work flawless and usually require the person on the other end to have the same software which too is unrealistic. Asking my wife to use the same unrealiable software is too much of a stretch!
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Lumia 928:
GSM network: 1800 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1900 MHz
WCDMA network: 900 MHz, 2100 MHz, 1900 MHz, 850 MHz
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GSM network: 1800 MHz, 850 MHz, 900 MHz, 1900 MHz
WCDMA network: 900 MHz, 2100 MHz, 1900 MHz, 850 MHz
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It does, thank you; but what is missing is T-Mobile's 1700 band which is used to download cellular data which means unless you specifically buy a pentaband, you're SOL; yes?
I've just got the Lumia 925 Grey and phone is very slim and very premium looking. :good:
The camera in my 920 was taking very crappy pictures at bright daylight (the image while pointing was sharper, and after shooting it was ALWAYS blurrier), and I was told, that it's actually a hardware issue, not something that could be fixed by a firmware update. Also, it was intermittently completely losing network and taking 30 s to a minute to reconnect. So I brought it back to a Microsoft store and bought 925 instead (they were very nice to price-match T-Mobiles outright price of $579 as opposed to Microsoft's $699). Currently struggling with TMo to unlock my phone (had to escalate it all the way to executive customer relations department in the corporate office due to constant misinformation and misrepresentation of their unlocking policy by their regular customer service), but looks like I might be getting an unlock code from them soon.
The phone is much slicker and lighter than 920, I don't miss wireless charging (which I never used anyway), and I don't even regret paying $79 extra while getting memory chopped to 16 Gb. What's really-really nice about this specific one - is the fact that it's going to work on ALL carriers in Canada (namely, the big-3 Rogers, Bell, Telus, as well as Wind and Mobilicity) with native 3G/LTE support once unlocked (and de-branded for Internet Sharing enabling).
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It does, thank you; but what is missing is T-Mobile's 1700 band which is used to download cellular data which means unless you specifically buy a pentaband, you're SOL; yes?
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There are actually a few items that are wrong here. Here is a list based on device:
Nokia 928: Most likely, you will only find a Nokia Lumia 928 from Verizon out on the market. In order to even use the GSM chipset, you must first flash the device. Worst part of it is that reports say it isn't a 100% fix. If you do plan on using a Verizon 928 (I haven't found global versions as of yet), then you must have the patience to flash it. The issue is also that is won't work on any other LTE network, besides Verizon. Without AWS, it can't run on T-Mobile's HSPA+ network in some areas, so check if they refarmed it. When you are successful, you may use it on AT&T's HSPA+ "faux G" network.
Nokia 925: If you plan on using T-Mobile's network, you must buy the T-Mobile version from the United States. Otherwise, no other variant contains the AWS radios for unfarmed 3G/4G. If you plan on using LTE on either T-Mobile or AT&T, you also must buy the T-Mobile version. The international variants do not have the appropriate LTE radios found in the Americas. The biggest upside to the Nokia 925 is that any version or variant may be used on AT&T's HSPA+ network.
In total, I would simply get a Nokia Lumia 920 from Canada (Rogers Wireless). This is the most versatile Windows Phone 8 in the Americas that is unbranded (except for some Rogers bloatware, which can be flashed out). I really hope this all helps!
-Arekusandaa
Hi all,
I see a few threads about folks trying to make lumia 920 work on Tmobile USA and I see some talk about quadband vs pentaband, which I am unable to follow. I am planning to buy an unlocked lumia 920 from expansys. I see they are selling unlocked lumia 920 for 450$ and for 550$. I am not sure what the difference is. Can the experts here take a look at the below links and let me know what the difference between the 2 models are and which one would work on Tmobile USA 3g and 4g bandwidths?
www .expansys-usa.com/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-white-238632/
www .expansys-usa.com/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-236632/
www .expansys-usa.com/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-yellow-238634/ (my preferred color!)
www .expansys-usa.com/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-rogers-branded-black-unlocked-241692/
If someone could point me to some website (other than ebay) to buy an unlocked lumia 920 (yellow/red) which could be made to work with Tmobile USA, that would be really helpful!
zeeshmk said:
Hi all,
I see a few threads about folks trying to make lumia 920 work on Tmobile USA and I see some talk about quadband vs pentaband, which I am unable to follow. I am planning to buy an unlocked lumia 920 from expansys. I see they are selling unlocked lumia 920 for 450$ and for 550$. I am not sure what the difference is. Can the experts here take a look at the below links and let me know what the difference between the 2 models are and which one would work on Tmobile USA 3g and 4g bandwidths?
www .expansys-usa.com/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-white-238632/
www .expansys-usa.com/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-236632/
www .expansys-usa.com/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-yellow-238634/ (my preferred color!)
www .expansys-usa.com/nokia-lumia-920-windows-phone-rogers-branded-black-unlocked-241692/
If someone could point me to some website (other than ebay) to buy an unlocked lumia 920 (yellow/red) which could be made to work with Tmobile USA, that would be really helpful!
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Hi,
Well, I am not an expert but here's my two cents:
Quadband vs Pentaband refers to the bands the phone can work on. If you go to the technical specs on the pages you posted, you'll see this:
Network: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900; HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100...which means that the phone has 4 (hence 'quad') bands in both GSM and HSDPA. In the case of a pentaband HSDPA, it also includes a fifth (and for you very important) band -1700 MHz.
Your last (and most expensive) option should work for sure, since it is a pentaband Rogers-branded model, even though the technical specifications do not mention the 1700 MHz frequency which is one of the two T-Mobile uses (the other one being 2100). But other vendors, including the one I've purchased my 2 Rogers-branded 920s from, do not list this frequency either, since they just take the info from one source and never bother to correct it when wrong.
The other (cheaper) options are most likely the ATT version, which does not have the 1700 MHz band, but technically can be flashed to Rogers and unlock this band (there's lots of info on this forum on how to do it). There's always a risk to brick the phone (render it unusable), but it's minimal. I guess it depends on your risk-management level, whether you feel comfortable enough to save $220 and carry all the process of flashing the phone, or shell out the full amount and have it working out of the box.
There's also the possibility that the cheaper ones do work on your area without flashing, depending on whether T-Mobile has already deployed the 1900 MHz band:
From: http://explore.t-mobile.com/phone-sim-card#faq
Will non-T-Mobile phones without the AWS 1700/2100 band not work on T-Mobile's 3G / 4G network?
A: T-Mobile provides 4G data services nationwide on the AWS 1700/2100 bands, and is in the process of adding service on the PCS 1900 band. Today, phones with both AWS 1700/2100 bands (not just one or the other) work nationwide on T-Mobile’s 4G network. PCS 1900 band phones (sold by AT&T and others) work on the T-Mobile 4G network in cities where 1900 service has been added. Check with your local T-Mobile store or call customer service to learn about the network status in your area.
You could also buy it from another place, more reasonably priced. This is where I bought my first one in December, and my second one a couple of weeks ago when I lost my first one Mind you, I did not buy either online, but actually went to their retail store to get them. Some people tend to think that they have a bad reputation, but my experience has been quite satisfactory (I bought the first one locked for $500, and they sold me the second one unlocked for the same price, virtually unlocking it for free). I do not know if they ship to the US, and if so, how much it costs but you could try contacting them... The downside is that they only have black. Here's the links:
$499: http://canadagsm.ca/NOKIA/Nokia-Lumia-920-Unlocked-Penta-band-lte/
$550: http://canadagsm.ca/NOKIA/Nokia-Lumia-920-LTE-Windows-8-Rogers/
You could buy the locked one and order an unlock code for about $15 on sites like cellunlocker.net
Attached is a pic of the box to show you that it does have the 1700 MHz frequency...
HTH
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Thanks Abelitin for the detailed response. Appreciate your help!
I did go through some threads in this forum and it appears that flashing an Rogers version onto an unlocked ATT 920 involves so many steps that I got confused. Also I think there was one more thread about Nokia locking out the "navifirm" software that people use to get the different carrier versions.
In any case, after searching quite a bit, the cheapest I have found was in Negrielectronics and they are selling the Rogers version for 450 - 530$ range. Even ATT unlocked versions seem to fall in the same price range. So I might as well get the Rogers version.
zeeshmk said:
Thanks Abelitin for the detailed response. Appreciate your help!
I did go through some threads in this forum and it appears that flashing an Rogers version onto an unlocked ATT 920 involves so many steps that I got confused. Also I think there was one more thread about Nokia locking out the "navifirm" software that people use to get the different carrier versions.
In any case, after searching quite a bit, the cheapest I have found was in Negrielectronics and they are selling the Rogers version for 450 - 530$ range. Even ATT unlocked versions seem to fall in the same price range. So I might as well get the Rogers version.
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Glad to help...
The cheapest variants on that website do no specify if they are Rogers, but the tech specs do mention they have the 1700 MHz band, so you should be ok.
Nokia did close access through Navifirm, but apparently it is still possible to flash using Nokia Care Suite, as per the post below...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40988591&postcount=8
It is a simple but risky process, so if negrielectronics is selling an unlocked pentaband version for $450, that is the best option, imho.
Good luck in your quest. It's a great phone... You won't regret having purchased it! (Incidentally, my carrier also works on the 1700-2100 MHz frequencies. I was waiting for last September's iphone release, hoping it would add the 1700 band, but it didn't, so I then decided to get another Nokia (had had a 5230 for 1 1/2 years) and went for the Lumia 920. The very same day I lost it, Apple came out with a new version of the iphone 5 that does support the 1700 (therefore, it also works on T-Mobile), but now there is no way I go the iphone road, so I got another L920!)
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