I just picked one up off of eBay. When I plugged it in it would show the battery up to 100% but it would not turn on or anything. Did a little research on here and decided to try to put it back to stock following this post(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070) Now after I hit start it runs as though its looking good however it hangs on the movinand.bin part. Now note I have no idea what was on this phone so any questions like that wont work. Just looking for a little tidbits to get me on my way to AOKP 4.0.4 thank you in advance!
I tried following the steps from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1540809 to start fresh and it passed however now it just flashes SGH-T959D and Samsung on my screen and still will not power on.
To add, I was able to get it back to the download screen but would still hang at the movinand.bin file. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank You!
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You need to use Heimdall Suite.
MultipleMonomials said:
You need to use Heimdall Suite.
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I also tried to attempt that last night but could not find the files to put into it. Do you happen to know where they are?
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I did the heimdall(eh03) and was finally able to get it to android recovery however i got a few errors. It said this as it popped up "E:format_volume: rfs format failed on /dev/block/mmcblk0p2" I also tried to odin it however after i add the .pit and pda files, and click re-partition it just goes to all threads complete. Also, i hit reboot system now in the android menu and it started to boot up, but at the verizon logo it stayed there for a minute then went back to the Galaxy S animation.
What does that mean?
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One more quick update. Im trying to get to AOKP, I tried to odin after all of this and it appears to still hang on movinand.bin. here is what I am following: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
Anyone? I tried a Samsung Droid charge cord with odin and it still failed at movinand.bin. can anyone help me here?
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Did you go into recovery after restoring it to stock without first booting it up? If so there's your problem.
I cant get it to boot right after stock. If I hold the power button, it does nothing, I have to plug it in to the ac cord then it just shows the battery and wont do anything.
After the EH03 reboot, I plug it in, goes to android recovery and get this error.
"E:format_volume: rfs format failed on /dev/block/mmcblk0p2" If I data wipe, I get this, Formatting Data...
E:format_volume: rfs format failed on /dev/block/mmcblk0p1
formatting /dbdata...
fotmatting /cache...
data wipe complete
E:failed to mount /preinstall (No such file or directory)
E:install_application_for_customer:Can't mount /preinstall
your storage not prepared yet, please see UI menu for format and reboot actions
Look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692081,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705257
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720521
MultipleMonomials said:
Look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692081,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705257
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1720521
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I'm definetly thinking that the jig would be the only savior to this thing. O well.
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So like the title states I'm having some difficulties flashing a rom. I just updated to froyo 2.2 with root and I'm trying to flash nero v5.0. The problem I'm having is when I boot into clockwork i keep getting an E:can't open /cache/update.zip. I've tried both method 1 and 2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732458
Did you make sure to take step 2 on the tutorial? "Flash clockwork recovery"?
If so, I would try it again to see if it helps. Another step is to uninstall ROM manager, then re-install it taking all the steps again. It sounds like you may have accidentally deleted the update.zip file that should be on the root of your SD card.
yea, i tried it. I flashed it. I even clear the data and uninstalled rom manager and reinstalled. I also never touched update.zip as well. This was the first time I've actually mounted my phone to my computer and opened up my internal/external sdcard.
OP, here is a thread I made for issues in the past.
Try this and let me know how it goes:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875890
still no luck, i boot into recovery and get the same message still
Well, Hmm... You could try the steps in the noob guide and use ODIN to install froyo+root. This is the ALT METHOD in the guide. This is what I personally use.
Not really certain what's going on man, but doing this can't hurt.
I recently followed your guide, I could try again it wouldn't hurt my phone right?
No, you are not going to hurt your phone...
lets troubleshoot.
List to me step by step what you have done... If need be I will ODIN to JFD tonight and we can go through it together. I'm certain it's something silly though. No reason it should not work. You have a a Vibrant on T-Mobile right?
yea i have a tmobile vibrant so this is what i just did right now.
1) Flashed froyo+root from your noob guide followed all the steps (i.e. wipe data etc)
2) downloaded rom manager and flashed clockwork recovery.
3) placed nero v5.0 into the root of the phones internal sdcard.
4) went to rom manager and roboot. E: Can't open /cache/update.zip
(Bad)
Installation Aborted
nvm i think i got it to work
Do i need to do anything special for the longer battery life for nero v5.0
^^ what was the issue?
^ nothing special... you may want to recalibrate your battery. Drain it down to it powers off on its own (or really close)... charge it full... leave it on maybe an hour longer after fully charged... you can bump charge it (DO NOT do this a lot)... all this means is once full, unplug and then plug back in... your "full" battery will accept more charge....
dont boot up, but go straight to CWR and then Advanced > Wipe Battery Stats
reboot with the power cord still connected. Once its booted unplug and use like normal.
I repeat, do not bump charge often, this will hurt your battery.
I just flashed froyo again and used the update zip on the fix thread
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How to you go straight to clockwork recovery?
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krazy2o6 said:
How to you go straight to clockwork recovery?
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long press the power button and a list of options will show up, select "Recovery"
Installed the DoW kernel over Bionix-v and wound up in a boot loop, unable to get into recovery, but I was able to get into download mode. Tried using ODIN to flash back to stock, but it won't boot past the 1st Vibrant splash screen.
The ONLY rom I've been able to boot is Eugene's JK2+2e Froyo ROM, but it's not recognizing both the internal and external storage (shows unavailable). I'm assuming this is due to ODINing with voodoo enabled, so I tried flashing one of SuperCurio's voodoo kernels on top, but that seemed to have no effect.
I've tried using Eugene's Froyo that doesnt brick and then downgrading to stock JFD, but it still refuses to boot, same as if I negated the Froyo step. I'm fairly lost as to what my next step should be besides randomly changing settings, but I dont want to get to a state where I can't enter download mode.
ANY help anyone can provide would be amazing and greatly appreciated, and I can of course provide any additional information that would be helpful.
Odin needs time. Odin is your solution.
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Thanks for the response, but could you be more specific? I'm aware that ODIN is the solution, because I'm unable to flash anything in recovery.
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Thanks for the response, but could you be more specific? I'm aware that ODIN is the solution, because I'm unable to flash anything in recovery.
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Sure. If it was me id download an older odin version. Just try it. Id also go back to stock.
Remember to back up a program to root.
I still use odin 1.3 myself. Works every single time.
Let me know.
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Using Odin 1.7 now, I'll try 1.3 and report back on that. The problem is, every time I attempt to revert back to stock (JFD or JI6), the phone refuses to boot, shows Vibrant splashscreen for ~1.5 sec and then shuts off. No boot animations.
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Using Odin 1.7 now, I'll try 1.3 and report back on that. The problem is, every time I attempt to revert back to stock (JFD or JI6), the phone refuses to boot, shows Vibrant splashscreen for ~1.5 sec and then shuts off. No boot animations.
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Keep trying. It will work eventually for no reason.
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Leave it alone for at least 5 to 10 min on splash screen. Sometimes that takes a while.
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mr.orange303 said:
Leave it alone for at least 5 to 10 min on splash screen. Sometimes that takes a while.
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15 max
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Would you recommend flashing Eugene's Froyo that does not brick first and then flashing stock on top? Or straight to flash? And should "re-partition" be checked at any point, since the ext4 system needs to be rebuilt to RFS.
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Would you recommend flashing Eugene's Froyo that does not brick first and then flashing stock on top? Or straight to flash? And should "re-partition" be checked at any point, since the ext4 system needs to be rebuilt to RFS.
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No to repartition on my end. But u may want to ask about the ext4 going back to rfs. Ive always done it in cwm honestly.
Someone else with more expirience will have to answer that.
But I have never and read it doesnt need to be done.
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Tried, still wont turn on on stock, just vibrant screen.
torturedsoul802 said:
Tried, still wont turn on on stock, just vibrant screen.
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Its not bricked. Keep trying.
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mr.orange303 said:
Its not bricked. Keep trying.
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+1. If your phone boots at all it's in my experience 100% recoverable. I own a RIFF box as well so if you brick it dead then I can still fix it... . I'll be getting a video up on ODIN usage for Vibrant/i9000 owners tomorrow. Check out my Boot Logo video on my website for a little bit of ODIN usage to give you an idea. You just need to open ODIN. The put the phone in download mode and plug in via USB. Then select your PIT and PDA file and click start. Then you can reflash stock firmware. PM me as I offer this as a service as well.
Thanks for the reply. Usage of ODIN is not my problem, the problem is that flashing to JFD (whether I use Eugene's Froyo 1st or not) results in a failed boot. The phone shows the 1st Vibrant splash screen for ~2 sec and then shuts off. No process I have tried results in a successful stock boot.
Thinking about trying both of these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940671
HOPEFULLY, one of these will let me get into CWM or access the filesystem in order to disable Voodoo.
Once again, if anyone knows of a way to revert EXT4 -> RFS through ADB or download mode, please let me know!
Well I have been working on it for a day straight and no luck. I have talked to several people and the phone has readonly partition now so it is ****ed! Nand death! I called T-Mobile yesterday and told them I have know idea why but my phone won't turn on, blah, blah, blah. So they are going to replace it under warranty and it will be here in a few days.
torturedsoul802 said:
Thinking about trying both of these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=823300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=940671
HOPEFULLY, one of these will let me get into CWM or access the filesystem in order to disable Voodoo.
Once again, if anyone knows of a way to revert EXT4 -> RFS through ADB or download mode, please let me know!
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Hey, thank you so much for posting this up. These are great finds. I'd be more inclined though, to just call Tmobile and get another phone. I'm really tired of messing with the phone. I don't have time to be messing with this anymore.
The fact that I can get into download mode may be good news, but it does nothing for me right now. With what we know about bricking and unbricking phones, I've thrown every trick I know at it already. I hope you get it fixed, but I"m not messing with it anymore.
drewdude007 said:
Well I have been working on it for a day straight and no luck. I have talked to several people and the phone has readonly partition now so it is ****ed! Nand death! I called T-Mobile yesterday and told them I have know idea why but my phone won't turn on, blah, blah, blah. So they are going to replace it under warranty and it will be here in a few days.
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Yeah man, me too. I'm getting this thing exchanged. It's a paperweight right now. My phone is doing exactly the same thing.
Can you recap one more time? You are only having problems flashing a custom ROM? You said ODIN is not the problem so I'm taking it you could flash back to stock if you wanted to?
Size matters.
Hey, I haven't posted in here before, I've been a member for a while, just never had anything to contribute. So I got the whole soft brick problem. I spent countless hours trying to get into download mode. The size of the usb cable matters, I was using an LG Optimus cord, and my buddy tried his blackberry cord which had much more gerth, and BAM download mode everytime no problem. Maybe this might help some of you out there.
Also I would like to say, thank you for everyones hard work. I had to roll back to stock roms, and just got the Froyo.UVKA7 to work. I love it, it's quick, it's got color in the settings menu. I wanted to cry... Everyone that has ever had anything to do with the developement to make Android better. THANK YOU!
Absolutely,
I am having problems with the phone starting up and loading what I flashed.
I flashed JI5 Ji6, and Eugene's non bricking Froyo Rom
These 3 are the only ones I was able to find that is ODIN flashable
Why you ask?
I cannot get into Recovery, but I can get into Download mode. I can't get into any recovery at all. NOTHING. This is why ODIN seems to be my only option.
But regardless of any ROM i flash, my phone shuts off right after the Vibrant screen. No splash screen, no loading, no booting. .Nothing. It just shuts off.
I can't charge it either.
i get a Charging bootloop. HOurglass - battery shows up for a bit, then restarts over and over.
So in other words. it's ****ed.
Hope that explains it sufficiently. if you have any more questions or suggestions, Im open man, Im open.
Help me
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Can you recap one more time? You are only having problems flashing a custom ROM? You said ODIN is not the problem so I'm taking it you could flash back to stock if you wanted to?
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Im coming from 2.3.2 - XWJV1 [Gingerbread on Vibrant], after ODIN, and when i wanted to flash the latest Bionix i got an error
E: Can't symlink /system/bin/su
E: Failure at line 16:
symlink /system/xbin/su SYSTEM.bin/su
Installation Aborted.
every time i get this, i have to do another ODIN because it just does a loop in the android system recovery and will not get out, so i had to ODIN 3 times.
now when i try to flash a ROM it just keeps replacing stock recovery with clockwork mod recovery, i do the usual steps to install a ROM and it just does a loop. i tried different clockwork flash versions and either it wont let me install the older ones or the only 2 versions that work have loop problems.
HOW DO I FIX THIS, IM SO STRESSED OUT, THIS IS UNNECESSARY!
after doing install rom from sd option, i was able to get out of the loop but i got
E: Can't symlink /system/bin/su
E: Failure at line 16:
symlink /system/xbin/su SYSTEM.bin/su
Installation Aborted.
i still cant flash anything and i already tried eugenes files.
got into clockwork but when i put install files from sd card > choose from sd then it when i choose update.zip it just goes back to the android system recovery.
then i put reinstall files from the android system recovery and it just sends me back to clockwork recovery...
Try a diff. tar for when you Odin, you may have a corrupt file. Have you try Eugen JK2 tar file, prerooted?
Are you clicking reinstall packages?
Are you going through clockwork or rom manager?
Did you install the root update zip to reroot?
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shovelhead83 said:
Are you clicking reinstall packages?
Are you going through clockwork or rom manager?
Did you install the root update zip to reroot?
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i did all that 4 times...
Romeo20 said:
Try a diff. tar for when you Odin, you may have a corrupt file. Have you try Eugen JK2 tar file, prerooted?
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No i havent, where can i find this?
NCn1 said:
i did all that 4 times...
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Make sure you have root. This happened to me recently also. Im doing my best to try to remember what I did so I can help you better.
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trust me, im rooted.
Try Ugenes no brick file when you odin. Has worked for me in the past.
Odin back to JFD (make sure to check repartition) then boot and let it go through loading, then root the phone, Then load CWM, then load your new rom and load from recovery NOT CWM, you will have no problems.
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Odin back to JFD (make sure to check repartition) then boot and let it go through loading, then root the phone, Then load CWM, then load your new rom and load from recovery NOT CWM, you will have no problems.
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What are the button combination in order to get into recovery?
nvm i got it
oka1 said:
Odin back to JFD (make sure to check repartition) then boot and let it go through loading, then root the phone, Then load CWM, then load your new rom and load from recovery NOT CWM, you will have no problems.
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I did that and it says Installation Aborted.
****ING ****, IM GOING BACK TO IPHONE
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What are the button combination in order to get into recovery?
nvm i got it
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Both Volume up And Volume Down & Power>>Release Power When Seeing Vibrant`s Boot Screen...Release Volumes Buttons When Enter To Recovery
Okk >>>nvm i got it
bump
i still cant flash anything and i already tried eugenes files.
got into clockwork but when i put install files from sd card > choose from sd then it when i choose update.zip it just goes back to the android system recovery.
then i put reinstall files from the android system recovery and it just sends me back to clockwork recovery...
Ok I just went through this less than a month ago with my captivate. I have a twenty page topic on this EXACT issue. I had all the major devs pming me and doing everything under the sun for probably a total of thirty hours. Result - NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO FIX THIS. This issue is not specific to our phones, there have been cases of this on almost every android phone. Your gonna get people telling you to do all this elementary trouble shooting...the problem is far too deep dont waste your time. You can flash back to stock with every tar and pit file this side of samsung...not gonna work. SOMETHING is not getting wiped. Save yourself the time and sell the phone to someone who will not use custom roms.
Also no rm/wipe command through abd is gonna help either! Sorry just telling you from someone who experienced this hell. Also every thread in existence on the internet on this subject has died out without an answer. If you read for enough hours you will find out the hard way! Good luck my friend!
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Custom recovery is never going to stick now. Every reboot now it is gonna be gone...dont know why but from my research, it is permanent.
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Are you able to re install the original rom? I and many others with this issue had that unique problem of being able to install ONLY the rom that was running before everything went to hell. There lies the key I believe to all of this. What makes only one work.
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holy ****ing ****, **** whitehawkx ! his ROM caused this.
what if i put voodoo recovery mod?
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i did all that 4 times...
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I did it many times as well with about 5 different images and Odin versions. I can get to :
Clockworkmod recovery
Stock recovery
Download mode
T-Mobile + Samsung splash screen
- That's it... then bottom touch controls lit up.
Ok, I did a little digging and I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9390699
I hope this helps.
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NCn1 said:
holy ****ing ****, **** whitehawkx ! his ROM caused this.
what if i put voodoo recovery mod?
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LMAO!!! I understand that your frustrated but there is no need to blame other members. There is always a risk flashing a rom. If you are not willing to accept the risk then you shouldn't be flashing roms at all. Whitehawkx has helped many people in the vibrant community and its not his fault if YOU decide to flash his rom and don't know what your doing. You wont get much help around here with that attitude. Good luck
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ive flashed back to Stock and then added different roms and everyone ive gone back to after stock, the settings of Anroid System in Settings is 0. the problem is that everytime I reboot the phone, all my settings aren't there anymore such as volume levels I previously set up or even the selection of keyboard - how can I fix this?
I've had this problem too.. a reboot of my phone on any custom rom always wipes my contact list, settings, messages, and apps but keeps my wallpaper and wifi and google info... I've always wondered why and if there's a way to fix it
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what did you do to fix it?
jericho831 said:
what did you do to fix it?
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that's what im hoping to find out
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Corrupt DBdata... a nice odin and reformat should fix.. follow these instructions... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124391 props to the author for the write up...
spyd3r05 said:
Corrupt DBdata... a nice odin and reformat should fix.. follow these instructions... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124391 props to the author for the write up...
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when I get to a computer will give this a try, thanks.. i've noticed an occasional "error mounting /data" when wiping in CWR but payed it no attention since everything works fine when it boots up on first install
edit: im not using any voodoo kernels or CWR so i don't think that ext4 formats gonna work for me.. however it seems my /data and /datadata corruption problems stem from a simple mistake: not booting into the stock rom once first before odin-ing CWR
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Lol I'm going threw that crap now. Did u fix it?
Skip the ext4 part do all of the odin part of the tutorial
seemed to fix it for me.. time will tell if the fix sticks, thanks guys
edit: yeah I odined debloated/deodexed EB01, let it do its own data wipe on booting then powered off. I then odined CWR, booted straight into it, did the usual data/cache/dalvik wipe and flashed ComRom 2.0 and let it boot. I then booted into recovery and flashed the 2.1 patch right over it with no wipe. I let it boot up and presto!! no problems after 2 days, it even keeps data after reboots!! problem solved for me
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Ok so I was in the process of putting a custom ROM on my Samsung SGH-T959D yesterday and the cord slipped out on my in the middle of the process.
Now I cannot get into "Download" mode, I can only get to Android Recovery Mode <3e>. The biggest issue I am getting is that the internal SD card is not mounted now and none of the options it gives will let me do anything.
Also, my phone is not being recognized by my computer so I can't use Odin. In a sense my computer does recognize it but only as a CD-Rom...
I have read numerous threads that say to push files from my pc to sd card but I am unsure as to how to do this with my PC not recognizing the phone as a mass storage.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. And yes I have tried multiple times to figure things out.
Phone Info
Telus Samsung SGH-T959D
GB 2.3.3 (What was on the phone anyway)
When running it registered a storage of 2GB and another of 13+ GB plus I can put my external sd card.
Android Recovery <3e>
-Reboot System Now
-Apply update from sdcard
-wipe data/factory reset
-wipe cache partition
E:failed to mount /data/fota (No such file or directory)
#MANUAL MODE#
If their is any other info that is needed please just ask and I will give you what I can as I will be keeping an eye on this thread.
I know this is a silly question but did you try a factory reset? Otherwise you could look into making/buying a download jig. Google it and all shall be answered. You can get one on ebay for cheap. Sorry I can't be of more help
I'd try a jig and push stock to the phone
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Just to update. I finally got the chance to order a Jig from ebay. Just waiting for it to be delivered.
Got phone into download mode via http://www.ebay.ca/itm/110798938624?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3113wt_1185
Currently working on getting Firmware and that back onto phone. Just waiting for the modem to finish.
Cmon over to our one stop shop thread when you want to retry custom
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So recently I finally got my Telus Samsung Fascinate 3G+ (SGH-T959D) fully functional with Darky Rom 10.2 . Only issue I am having is I'm not sure if my battery is messed up or if my attempts to calibrate it have failed.
Any suggestions?
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What makes you think it's messed up?
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jpmccarthy said:
What makes you think it's messed up?
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Reviving old post.
I think my battery is messed up because the phone will say 'fully charged' and as soon as i unplug it the battery drops to 80-88% and only lasts about 6 hrs with very minimal use.
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Ragn said:
Reviving old post.
I think my battery is messed up because the phone will say 'fully charged' and as soon as i unplug it the battery drops to 80-88% and only lasts about 6 hrs with very minimal use.
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I would flash a ROM and make sure you are at full battery when you do it (charge from an OFF state). Wipe batt stats when you flash it.
Sounds like you may have a bad flash, or could be that your battery is bad.
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Ok. Planning on doing this in a little bit. Any suggestions on what Rom i should try?
(currently on a 2.3.4 firmware version)
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lol That's funny. That is actually the Rom I downloaded lastnight. I just have to figure out why my phone is not being recognized by my computer again. Have a feeling it could be the cord but not 100% sure.
Edit: Yup it was the cable
same here
i got similar trouble with you.