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I just got a Thrill 4G and Im thinking about trading it in for an Atrix. The phone is great but the battery life sucks, and I cannot see the 3D screen with sun glasses on. I live in AZ so they are on every time I go outside so that is an important deciding factor for me.
The Atrix is $49 today so Im thinking about getting one. I'd love to hold out for the SGS2, but who knows when it will be out and it will prob be $199.
So, would you buy an Atrix again if you had to do it over again?
If I wouldn't of had to sell my first ATRIX I wouldn't have. My fave phone!
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No-brainer imo --- the atrix is FAR superior; I'll admit that with stock gingerbread the phone is kinda meh....still an awesome phone but nothing mindblowing. I assume since you're here you'll be unlocking and flashing it...which makes the phone AMAZING. The 3-D stuff just seems so gimmicky to me and won't be perfected/well-implemented for a good amount of time to come.
As far as the SGS2, on paper it looks like an amazing phone but I'll have to wait to see - I had the captivate and was so disappointed with it (anyone that had that phone from the beginning knows how horrendous Samsung's support was). I hope that Samsung has learned a lot since the beginning of the GS line because a phone with such amazing hardware shouldn't have so many problems.
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No-brainer imo --- the atrix is FAR superior; I'll admit that with stock gingerbread the phone is kinda meh....still an awesome phone but nothing mindblowing. I assume since you're here you'll be unlocking and flashing it...which makes the phone AMAZING. The 3-D stuff just seems so gimmicky to me and won't be perfected/well-implemented for a good amount of time to come.
As far as the SGS2, on paper it looks like an amazing phone but I'll have to wait to see - I had the captivate and was so disappointed with it (anyone that had that phone from the beginning knows how horrendous Samsung's support was). I hope that Samsung has learned a lot since the beginning of the GS line because a phone with such amazing hardware shouldn't have so many problems.
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I actually know exactly what you mean because I bought my Captivate a couple days after it was released. I still have it, dont use it, but I was really happy with it after flashing ROMS on it. The development forum on that phone is fantastic.
Yes, I would never have a stock phone. Did they ever get the bootloader unlocked on this phone? I know that was the major reason that people hesitated to get it.
i love my atrix. nothing out there is better to me. im running CM7 beta on it right now. so fast.
With CM7 , everything is happy
Love it, fast, nice camera, nice speaker, good gaming performance with THD games, great community.
timbrendelaz said:
I actually know exactly what you mean because I bought my Captivate a couple days after it was released. I still have it, dont use it, but I was really happy with it after flashing ROMS on it. The development forum on that phone is fantastic.
Yes, I would never have a stock phone. Did they ever get the bootloader unlocked on this phone? I know that was the major reason that people hesitated to get it.
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There's an automatic bootload unlocker in this very forum I won't bash you because I missed it myself, hahaha. It worked like a charm for me though.
Here is the link::
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
kisnerct said:
There's an automatic bootload unlocker in this very forum I won't bash you because I missed it myself, hahaha. It worked like a charm for me though.
Here is the link::
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
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I didn't miss it because I wasn't looking for it. I don't have an Atrix and was asking a question.
Everything I've read says that the Atrix also has poor battery life. I saw a thread on a battery calibration and mod that is supposed to help. I dont want to trade ina phone with bad battery life for another phone with bad battery life.
Both have a dual core CPU but the Atrix has 1GB of RAM which is nice IMO. I cant see the Thrill 3D screen with sunglasses on which sucks to me. The 3D is very gimmicky and hurts my eyes, lol. And there is only one ROM and the dev's seems to be bailing on this phone so I don't see a very good future in the Thrill dev threads.
timbrendelaz said:
I didn't miss it because I wasn't looking for it. I don't have an Atrix and was asking a question.
Everything I've read says that the Atrix also has poor battery life. I saw a thread on a battery calibration and mod that is supposed to help. I dont want to trade ina phone with bad battery life for another phone with bad battery life.
Both have a dual core CPU but the Atrix has 1GB of RAM which is nice IMO. I cant see the Thrill 3D screen with sunglasses on which sucks to me. The 3D is very gimmicky and hurts my eyes, lol. And there is only one ROM and the dev's seems to be bailing on this phone so I don't see a very good future in the Thrill dev threads.
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Bad battery life reports are the vocal minority. Most of us here consider the battery to be one of the Atrix's strong points. I can get 2 1/2 days with light usage on mine with CM7 installed on it. Thats with wifi set to never sleep, and with GPS and 3G/HSPA enabled.
I love the Atrix. Literally the only problem I have with it is the pentile display, and even then its a very minor issue.
It has a 1930mAh and all the review sites i've read say the battery life is very good. Flashing a custom rom will make it even better! People have been getting like 16-24 hrs with Wifi and everything on, constantly browsing the internet and playing games (read it on youtube)
This is my first Android phone. Came from 4 years with the iPhone. Ill tell you this...not looking back. This phone was great stock. Now running cm7, this thing is fuggin amazing... battery and performance are nothing short of great.
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timbrendelaz said:
I just got a Thrill 4G and Im thinking about trading it in for an Atrix. The phone is great but the battery life sucks, and I cannot see the 3D screen with sun glasses on. I live in AZ so they are on every time I go outside so that is an important deciding factor for me.
The Atrix is $49 today so Im thinking about getting one. I'd love to hold out for the SGS2, but who knows when it will be out and it will prob be $199.
So, would you buy an Atrix again if you had to do it over again?
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The Atrix is an incredibly solid device. Gotta give AT&T credit for getting a top-notch device out of Motorola.
well it sounds like you guys are quite happy with it. If the battery life is that great then it's a no-brainer for $49.99. I do believe hat Im gonna return my thrill today. It a cool phone, but im a power user and ROM flashing addict so it seems i'll fit right in.
timbrendelaz said:
well it sounds like you guys are quite happy with it. If the battery life is that great then it's a no-brainer for $49.99. I do believe hat Im gonna return my thrill today. It a cool phone, but im a power user and ROM flashing addict so it seems i'll fit right in.
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Good choice. The only HTC that is a solid Atrix competitor on AT&T (candybar Android w/o keyboard) is the Inspire4G, but honestly, after several HTC devices and several Moto devices, HTC may come up with cool designs and features, but Moto is great at implementing reliable, high-performing designs. I've never gotten the "oh, that is cheap" feeling with a Moto phone, while Samsung and HTC . . . meh!
Typically find out people who are complaining about battery life have heavy usage that would have even worse battery life on other phones. You had a captivate like I did, so I can tell you this phones battery kicks the **** out of the captivates....and will be even more amazing should you decide to UV it.
If you want to see a GOD AWFUL battery, **** around with an HTC inspire for about 6 hours lol.
Anyway, I think you should at least give the Atrix a try and worst case scenario you don't like it you bring it back within the 30 day window (assuming you will have one).
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I guess I'm the lone dissenter here. I'm not a fan of the Atrix. Maybe I got a lemon but it seems like there are a lot of problems.
The build quality is suspect. Dust and even a very small piece of cat hair has gotten under the screen. The back plate/battery cover feels cheap and creaks when I hold it. The GPS is rarely able to get a lock on my position, rendering it useless. Also, bluetooth connection is unreliable. I've tried 2 vehicle systems and 3 headsets. They are all able to pair fine, but lose connection in the middle of phone calls.
And if you've done research on the Atrix I'm sure you've read all about Motoblur and how ugly it makes the UI. It's all true. I'm on gingerbread and I have to say its hideous. The stock in-call screen, dialer and photo gallery all look like something designed by an elementary student.
Can you flash it and fix the ugliness of the UI? I'm not a techy but from what I've read the answer seems to be mixed. It would appear yes you can just as long as the OTA update of gingerbread has not been installed on the phone. If it has, you're either screwed or prepare to spend the next 3 years of your life reading up on how to hack the device.
On the positive side, believe everything you've seen about the Atrix's speed. By far the fastest phone I've ever used. The screen is nice and bright as well.
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Can you flash it and fix the ugliness of the UI? I'm not a techy but from what I've read the answer seems to be mixed. It would appear yes you can just as long as the OTA update of gingerbread has not been installed on the phone. If it has, you're either screwed or prepare to spend the next 3 years of your life reading up on how to hack the device.
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It sounds like you might have got a lemon. But, I had the ota update and flashed it the very same day with no problems at all so it honestly isn't that difficult.
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landoftherich said:
I guess I'm the lone dissenter here. I'm not a fan of the Atrix. Maybe I got a lemon but it seems like there are a lot of problems.
The build quality is suspect. Dust and even a very small piece of cat hair has gotten under the screen. The back plate/battery cover feels cheap and creaks when I hold it. The GPS is rarely able to get a lock on my position, rendering it useless. Also, bluetooth connection is unreliable. I've tried 2 vehicle systems and 3 headsets. They are all able to pair fine, but lose connection in the middle of phone calls.
And if you've done research on the Atrix I'm sure you've read all about Motoblur and how ugly it makes the UI. It's all true. I'm on gingerbread and I have to say its hideous. The stock in-call screen, dialer and photo gallery all look like something designed by an elementary student.
Can you flash it and fix the ugliness of the UI? I'm not a techy but from what I've read the answer seems to be mixed. It would appear yes you can just as long as the OTA update of gingerbread has not been installed on the phone. If it has, you're either screwed or prepare to spend the next 3 years of your life reading up on how to hack the device.
On the positive side, believe everything you've seen about the Atrix's speed. By far the fastest phone I've ever used. The screen is nice and bright as well.
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There are many options to get rid of the stock gingerbread Motoblur look. The obvious choice is CM7, which will do away with Blur entirely, and make your phone quite a bit quicker. Most themes available in XDA will get rid of the Blur look, and there is a huge selection in the App and Theme section. I use the ext4 Homebase Rom with his Honeycomb theme, and it significantly speeds up my phone.
I would recommend the Atrix over other Android phones for a few reasons. The biggest reason why I like it so much is because of the form factor. I like the 4 inch screen more than 4.3 or 4.5 or 9.3. Battery life has been pretty good, at least as good as I can reasonably expect from a smartphone. The hardware specs are comparable to any other Android device, and if you're willing to root and flash custom Roms, you will notice a marked improvement over stock performance (which I think is true of any Android phone). What really makes this phone as slick as it is are its accessories. I just bought the lapdock from Vancouver Craigslist for $150 and I love it. I knew when I bought it that it was kind of gimmicky (like the 3D from your Thrill), but for what I need this tool for, it's been outstanding. Nothing beats watching Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad on my hour commute to work while simultaneously charging my phone!
I love my Atrix, and it's a shame the phone got such a bad wrap off the bat due poor implementation of Blur on 2.2, and encrypted bootloader. Now with the unlocked bootloader and better blur, in addition to more and more custom roms being built, this phone is coming closer to its potential. I wish it had a metal back plate, but I understand the potential of worse reception and getting hotter than the plastic cover. All in all, the only phone I would remotely consider exchanging my Atrix for would be the Sensation, and even then I think I'd really have to be sold on the idea. I hope this helps with your decision.
Cm7 is a must on the atrix. I've tried other roms but none ever worked quite right. Annoying fc & other errors - but thanks to those devs for putting in the time & effort. Blur is complete crap: I couldn't even listen to my mp3s without the music stuttering bcuz the phone was busy searching for "suggestions" of similar songs I may like. Damn you, for the unwanted marketing on my device, at&t & Motorola. For a while, I very much regretted trading in my iPhone. But now all is well. Thank you cm7 devs!
So I just got my Atrix
It has 1.2.6 as a build on it, and from reading I'm not finding too much information on that build. I don't think that I want to do the OTA to 4.1.57 though because I keep reading about bricks. I'm going to put a ROM on it, more than likely CM7 so Im not sure what good it would do to update OTA. I'll have to root it though so I guess I can get on that first but all of the root guides are for 1.8.x and up.
So I was very disappointed at first.
The browser was slow and disappeared often. The phone got hot. The battery was lasting like four hours. I was getting roaming warnings. Capacitive buttons wouldn't light up unless it was pitch black. Felt less than snappy. Launcher would take time to load up.
Basically all the problems most people were having except the wiffi bouncing.
The screen wasn't set quite right.
I took it back and now I have no problems except one. Now it does WiFi bounce.
Gonna take this one back too.
If your phone seems like its having problems most likely it is. Take it back.
FYI my experience.
I'll report back once I have chance to get to the sprint store again.
Cool phone but yes the two I have had are buggy.
I wish was text wrapping would get fixed too. Very annoying.
I know many are tired of problem threads but there are problems.
Just.out of.curiosty where did you get your phones at?
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try setting wifi to 2.4 ghz, that made mine more stable. I don't thinka new phone is going to solve that problem, so I would keep the one you got and wait for HTC to fix
saying you know there are too many problem threads and making another one yourself does not make it ok.
Make it ok? Just letting people know man. Not trying be a downer. I want the thing to work is all. Chill.
I got both phones at a sprint corporate store. The guy told me he has seen all the same issues.
Now this phone has great battery life. Awesome really.
But now I'm missing calls, going to maps from the browser completely blacks out the screen. Goes to nothing.
Face it. The phone is buggy.
I think HTC probably held the phone up in customs after realizing they pushed to quick. Who knows.
Buggy. Face it.
I am going to try a third one.
Oh and changing the WiFi to any setting didn't work.
Best of luck.
The wifi issue seems to be software related...the One X (our Evo's sister phone) got an OTA update this evening to address several wifi issues so I'm guessing that ours will be getting one soon too.
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saying you know there are too many problem threads and making another one yourself does not make it ok.
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why is the problem with the person making a thread, instead of the company who put out a problematic device.
Guys not trying to be a Debbie downer. I and many people have to live with a very promising device for a while. The developers quite frankly and hopefully will go nuts with the thing and make me and many kinda geeky. That's the fun.
But I need a solid device. I bought it to help me work better and embrace the technology that makes that happen.
I said on a different post the EVO 4g with mikg 3.11 for me was wonderful. That phone and Rom did my thing.
This is an EVO and branded as one. Don't settle and if you go for a brand like ne expect nothing less.
I had the first moto droid and that phone gave me amazing info without even touching it. I'm a fan. EVO helped me with work and music. Well slacker always made me nuts but that's slacker.
I don't mind a few minor bugs but hold the EVO to high standards.
I that's all we want.
Like I said developers will make it sing. I'm sure of it.
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Hello folks, I am no stranger to HTC land but am currently using an Epic 4g touch. After the terrible amount of lag I experienced on my Evo 3D I swore to never go back to HTC again because of sense. I am an exteme speed demon, lag in the UI and basic phone functions make me go crazy, I just can't take it.
I have played with a few floor models and they seem nice. I must ask, after using the phone for a period of time and using custom roms, what's the verdict on this phone? Should I get this instead of the Galaxy S 3? Please note, lag is my biggest concern.
I think most people agree sense is better than touchwiz. So far this phone is great being stock, but if you flash custom roms the phone is even better and thats the key in any phone so far.. Custom roms fix the issues carriers put in there. I say get the phone, build quality is amazing
Why dont you make up your own mind and stop posting things like this on a device specific forum. Questions like "is device A, better than device B" usually end up in piss matches.
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I'm not so much trying to start a pissing match, rather I'm asking you folks if after a month or so of usage if you have noticed lag or slowdowns. As touchwiz is much less RAM consuming than Sense is, I wanted to know as a speed purist if Sense bogs down this phone like it has in my previous HTC experience.
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I'm not so much trying to start a pissing match, rather I'm asking you folks if after a month or so of usage if you have noticed lag or slowdowns. As touchwiz is much less RAM consuming than Sense is, I wanted to know as a speed purist if Sense bogs down this phone like it has in my previous HTC experience.
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Have you flashed any ICS roms on your 3d? If you have you will quickly notice
how much more efficient sense runs on ICS. Now imagine running sense on a much better chip. Hope that answers your question. Case close.
hes right.. sense runs better on ICS for some reason, get the phone
I don't mean to sound harsh, but normally (because tons of people have been incredibly happy with their phones) I would say yes, get the phone, you won't be sorry. However, reading your OP, I get the feeling that if you do get the phone, a week later we'll all be seeing yet another "OMG, sense sux! HTC broke multitasking!!!! This phone lags soooooo much!!!!1!" thread. So my advice to you would be no. You will not be satisfied with this phone.
Go with the GS3 -it has 2GB of ram you know...
I've had mine now for a little under 24 hours, rooted within 1 hour of owning, and have flashed 3 roms so far. I can say I love it, best phone I ever owned, came from EVO og. My wife has the iPhone4s, and though she says she loves her phone she did say she was now jealous of my EVO LTE. I think you should at least get it, run through the paces in the two weeks you have to decide. Then go from there.
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I just read an article on goodandevo.net about how the og evo is just over 2 years old now. I'm not sure if this post belongs in the evo 4g section or the lte one, but It pertains to both.
My og evo could do anything, native hotspot, overclock, underclock, roam only, undervolt, virtually anything I asked of it, it could do. Short of printing out money for me to pay my bill, it was all I needed. And thats pretty much what this is about.
I don't know if Its the evo 4g lte itself, or just me, but I'm finding it hard to, I don't want to say like this phone, but I guess its on the line of that or give this phone a chance.
Going from a phone that has had every single thing hacked, any rom you could ever imagine, any kernel, any app, you could dream of... To a phone that still has bugs and issues to be worked out is more of a challenge than I originally even though about.
My only real concern that I had when I got this phone about a month ago was wifi hotspot. I use it as my daily internet source. With my og evo I used open garden for a while, it was the most reliable for me, then I switched to Swagged Out Stock rom and it had the native hotspot and tethering app unlocked.
But now that I'm on the lte, I'm realizing just how much more I depended on that phone. I miss the kernals, the unlimited amount of roms, the different radios I could flash, I bricked my og evo 3 times, sent it into bootloop I can't even count how many times, and even had the screen smashed twice. One of the times I ran it over with my truck after forgetting it under there using it as a flashlight.
I am excited for what the lte holds in store but Im quickly reminded of the "you don't know what you'you've got till it's gone" syndrome.
What are some of the things you guys are missing from your og evos and 3d's?
What are some of the things youre looking forward to with the evo 4g lte?
Sorry for the rant btw.
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never had an evo or a 3d but i have had phones of that era. i miss the wifi hotspot and tethering FOR FREE... but then companies decided to get greedy.
I got error 67 a few times on my old evo 4g, then I learned all about rooting, and flashing and especially things like nandroid backups, its killing me when I try to tether on this phone and one minute it will work and the next it won't
Plus my data is always disconnecting, on my og evo, that usually meant it was time to call sprint and have an extension put on my bill because i forgot to pay it.
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I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
This phone can native hotspot for free...
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ms79723 said:
I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I actually read that whole post. And I agree.
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This phone can native hotspot for free...
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Clockwork tether works too. And you don't have to be rooted
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ms79723 said:
I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?i
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I agreeeeeeeeeee!!! The only thing wrong with this phone is the multitasking and ram issue which I think is a ram leak and will definitely be fixed over time. I play around with both my Evo's Og and the LTE and the difference is night and day. I swear I fully charged my Evo og yesterday and took it off the charger and let it sit with only wifi on and played with my LTE evo with close to 80% battery and the Og died while doing nothing. While my LTE was still going strong. Mind you I played airport city, browsed the net, pandora, poweramp, Gtalk, Facebook, streamed some pics and about 30 minutes of a movie to my Xbox 360 from the imediashare app and a phone call and my battery was good. People just nitpick for no reason. Single people do this. Because, they're never satisfied.
I really like this phone. I set roaming to automatic and it does almost as well as my OG did in Sprint only mode. I also don't have to worry about having extra batteries. Rooting was fun too, I got to learn all about the 14 cycles of unbricking.
The slide action keyboard and it's uncanny ability to preclude the addition of any spaces after punctuations and inability to retroactively capitalize, saves a lot of processor power, and letts me get familiar with the space bar. ShapeWriter keyboard which is too small in this huge resolution screen was written years ago, and needed to be replaced, only wish the functionality had been brought in.
Seriously keeping the EVO OG incase I bend this one.
OP I understand where your coming from. Kinda had a feeling like that on the first day with this phone, but then I realized how much HTC finally improved everything from OG. Granted I'm S-Off for the future but I'm still on stock with root, and its amazing that a majority of people are still very happy on it.
If your wanting every type of mod similar to the OG, time is not your friend for now. Give it 8 months to a year for stuff to start changing in that direction. Until then, enjoy what HTC envisioned, because it could be worse!
Totally agree with ms79723.
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I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.<br />
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These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?<br />
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I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?<br />
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This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.<br />
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So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I understand what youre saying, and I do love this phone, I'm fully just being inpatient, and I know I am. Thats life. I was spoiled with everything I could do by the end of my run with the og evo, that not being able to do as much in terms of flashing is a bumming me out. I didn't flash roms because I needed to, I did it purely for fun, I would read reviews about a new one (and they're still being updated today) and flash it for a couple of days. I would flash multiple kernals a day. And I got used to the luxury of it.
Don't get me wrong, I love this phone, the graphics, the camera, its fast, plenty of storage, and when the ball really gets rolling with this phone, and I mean everything gets working its gonna be astounding. I can't wait.
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What I really don't miss about flashing roms is having to restore all my old apps and resync all my email accts, etc. Really don't miss the random reboots from unstable roms or in the later life of the og EVO low memory from trying to run roms too powerful for it.
I really like the EVO LTE. The battery lasts 3x as long as the og EVO did. The screen is beautiful and just as impressive as the og EVO was on day 1. Overall, if the S3 wasn't released within a month of the EVO LTE it would be up there with the og EVO in terms of popularity.
If we had a good 6 months head start on the S3.... Man, I can only speculate.
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How awful was the og evo's battery right? Loving my LTE. This phone feels like a big upgrade unlike the EVO 3D.
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The new EVO LTE does everything the OG EVO does/did in my opinion and 4x the speed etc. Remember, source was just released, a lot more to come with JB source as well etc.
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I just miss the data speed of wimax because 3g in the SF bay area is anywhere from barely ok to holy crap this is slower than my 56k modem. Other than that the phone on the whole is an upgrade across the board. The 2 evos i have are being used as remotes for my living room and bedroom now.
Same here. I had the og evo since it came out and used it until the ltevo came out. The ltevo has been a huge downgrade in real world function despite the far superior hardware nominal specs.
About the only things that are better are more flash so that my apps no longer are out of room, and google wallet is kind of fun to use, and battery life is a little better.
But I had managed to get by with app2sd before and, and google wallet is merely fun to play with, not an actually important function yet. Even the larger screen isn't that bigvof a deal bc tge og evo screen is pretty big already.
Camera doesn't focus right, links to maps and youtube don't open the native app even after rooting and applying the supposed fixes, radio reception sucks, wifi constantly fails to hand off to 3g or other wifi nets when you drive away from one you were connected to, neither the stock nor any other car mode works worth a crap, of course the well known multitasking, I really can't even think of all the unneccesary problems when I try to list them like this because they are so many that I am forced to get good at dealing with them and moving on 30 times a day. It's so many little things that it adds up to a constant, somewhat crappy experience. I wish I could have two phones use the same number because I would actually use my og evo a lot of the time right now rather than fight with this thing. Heck there's another one, writing this post, for some reason it's a lot harder for me to write on this keyboard than the og evo. And why do the arrow keys appear sometimes and not others? I make mistakes a lot and re-word things a lot and I need the arrow keys for editing, but here iin the xda-premium app, no arrows. Other apps they're there. Some things are not necessarily htc's fault but they're still a downgrade from the og. Like the damned lack of menu button, forcing the on-screen button to appear in most apps that were great before, again such as xda-premium.
The phone is cool if you never owned a phone before, but a lot of user experience crossing t's and dotting i's are missing and all in all it's a downgrade from the og.
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Lol
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ms79723 said:
I don't miss a thing. This phone does what it's supposed to do. ROMS, OC, undervolting...all that falls under the category of wants and things that are nice to have. The difference between the OG EVO and this phone is that right now I can say ROMS and undervolting are wants for this phone...but those are things you need for that phone. That phone stock wasn't all that great. And even with the ROMS and all the dev community has to offer...I'd still stick it out with this phone and be happier with this phone.
These posts...I don't really like them because it makes it seem as if there's something really wrong with what we have now and that's not true. People are just building up these phones and expect so much from them on day one...it's a damn shame. The OG EVO seems godlike now but people were complaining a little while after it came out just like how people are complaining now. People complained about the Epic 4G and then the EVO 3D...SGS II and now this phone and there are probably complaints for the SGS III. Just because ____'s dev scene isn't as big as _____'s...this phone is a disappointment. Do you really think you'd be happier with the OG EVO dev scene? You can try and say yes...but if that were the case, why are there still people complaining?
I'm happier with my non rooted phone now than I ever was when I had my phone rooted on any other device. Back with the OG EVO..so many things were wrong with it that you HAD to flash ROMS if you wanted it to be decent. It wasn't necessarily a luxury...luxury came with choosing a ROM and even then that made me feel even worse because some ROMS had things I did like while others didn't..so I basically in the same boat as not rooting when you think about it (because the custom ROMS had some features stock didn't and vice versa). With this phone now...it does what I NEED it to do. I can put my wants aside because I'm currently happy. Not saying this phone doesn't have its faults and I know people will be quick to bring them up...I would also like to add that that's part of the problem. Should we overlook the flaws? No. But I'm not going to let them ruin my experience. I personally remember what it was like without a smartphone and if my BIGGEST problem with this phone is multitasking...how in the hell can I be upset?
This phone has only been out for a month or two and other than multitasking...I don't see anything wrong but that's because I don't look for anything wrong. Other than multitasking, all my apps work so I'm happy...calls are clear, audio is great, it's all good. Multitasking isn't the only problem I've noticed though...I've also noticed that some games don't work but eh, I can live with that. Now comparing that to the OG E when it came out...this phone is doing A LOT better. I mean sheesh...when the OG came out you could barely use the damn keyboard unless you rooted the phone or waited for the update that came out months later.
So idk...I'm just not understanding these rants. I just don't get them. If that's how we view phones, we'll never be happy. I mean c'mon...if you ONLY got this phone hoping that the dev scene would be just as good as another phone's dev scene on day one...that's a damn shame. If you ONLY got this phone for the dev scene...that's a shame. The fact of the matter is that unless you got this phone for the dev scene, you got this phone because you know that it's going to be BETTER than what you came from. Dev scene aside, if this phone is not better than OG E and you really miss so much from it..just go back to the OG E. If all you care about is the dev scene...go to the Nexus. Simple as that.
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I agree with this completely. I made the mistake of buying the 3D assuming it would have the same dev support was going to be as legendary as the Evo 4G's (a phone which I never had the chance to own). Needless to say, it constantly made me feel like my phone wasn't good enough, even though software wise there was nothing wrong with it (hardware though, that was a different story).
Now that I have this phone, I've come to appreciate what the stock experience offers. I'm using Flex's optimized stock ROM, and I find myself keeping my current ROM and less interested in flashing things for the sake of flashing them.
I've arrived at a point with Android where I want my phone to be my phone, I don't want to keep wondering "can I push it harder". I'm going to let other people do the testing for me, and when they do, when I'm ready, I'll use the end product and I want to enjoy it.
Afterall, Google Now (whenever we get JB) needs a long time to fully understand your life before it becomes as useful as they say. Can't exactly establish that if I keep switching ROMs
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Same here. I had the og evo since it came out and used it until the ltevo came out. The ltevo has been a huge downgrade in real world function despite the far superior hardware nominal specs.
About the only things that are better are more flash so that my apps no longer are out of room, and google wallet is kind of fun to use, and battery life is a little better.
But I had managed to get by with app2sd before and, and google wallet is merely fun to play with, not an actually important function yet. Even the larger screen isn't that bigvof a deal bc tge og evo screen is pretty big already.
Camera doesn't focus right, links to maps and youtube don't open the native app even after rooting and applying the supposed fixes, radio reception sucks, wifi constantly fails to hand off to 3g or other wifi nets when you drive away from one you were connected to, neither the stock nor any other car mode works worth a crap, of course the well known multitasking, I really can't even think of all the unneccesary problems when I try to list them like this because they are so many that I am forced to get good at dealing with them and moving on 30 times a day. It's so many little things that it adds up to a constant, somewhat crappy experience. I wish I could have two phones use the same number because I would actually use my og evo a lot of the time right now rather than fight with this thing. Heck there's another one, writing this post, for some reason it's a lot harder for me to write on this keyboard than the og evo. And why do the arrow keys appear sometimes and not others? I make mistakes a lot and re-word things a lot and I need the arrow keys for editing, but here iin the xda-premium app, no arrows. Other apps they're there. Some things are not necessarily htc's fault but they're still a downgrade from the og. Like the damned lack of menu button, forcing the on-screen button to appear in most apps that were great before, again such as xda-premium.
The phone is cool if you never owned a phone before, but a lot of user experience crossing t's and dotting i's are missing and all in all it's a downgrade from the og.
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I got better reception with my og evo I think, data connection didnt drop off like it does with this phone.
Again dont get me wrong, I'm.obsessed with this phone, but I'm not a dev, so I'm waiting, hoping, and praying that itbgets the same support the og evo is STILL gettingml.
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I got better reception with my og evo I think, data connection didnt drop off like it does with this phone.
Again dont get me wrong, I'm.obsessed with this phone, but I'm not a dev, so I'm waiting, hoping, and praying that itbgets the same support the og evo is STILL gettingml.
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I'll echo this.
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Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
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Ok guys... coming over from the OG Evo 4G... I love this phone so far. I've had it for about 2 days. Everything is great, except it seems that I'm getting some serious lag when coming out of applications or interwebs using the home key. I get 2 or 3 seconds of "loading" and then it fills in. They phone is stock with very little added at this point. I did get the new OTA update right when I activated, so not sure if its an issue with that or not. Is anyone else getting this lag? With the power this phone has, I feel there should be zero lag when doing simple activities... 2 or 3 seconds isn't acceptable. Tried a factory reset... Didn't improve. Any suggestions????
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Root it and flash rom htc totally failed with multitasking
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Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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You're experiencing multitasking issues with sense reloads. Rooting can really help with that sort of thing.
Its really too bad you took that OTA, You won't be able to get full S-OFF.
If you aren't the rooting type, changing launchers can help
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Are there launchers that are more successfull than others for this phone? Apex? Nova?
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Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Supposedly it is but i dont think it has been fully addressed as devs are still making work arounds for it on thw new ota so my guess is yet another fail for htc
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Thanks for the responses guys... I have rooted/Rom'd my last 2 phones heavily (OG Droid, OG Evo) and am fairly comfortable with it. I guess I just wanted to enjoy this one stock for a while. After running ICS and JB Roms on my old EVO for the last 6 months... It is nice to have everything working at the same time (Netflix, Camera etc...). Plus, Rom'ing seems a little iffy on this Evo so far with reports of actual bricking (yes, I know.. usually user error) and borking Google Wallet. I am decent at this stuff, but I do make my share of mistakes. And seeing as how I bought this phone off eBay (not due for an upgrade), I can't afford to break it. Do you guys think this issue is being addressed by HTC? I hope so......
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Clear wallet settings before flashing just to be sure if you're worried about that.
Unlock and root your phone, follow the 1.15 flashing instructions and get cm10, it will feel like a new phone. Well worth any risk (which IMO is low following instructions).
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I think something might be wrong with your phone. We've taken a dive into these phones the last couple of weeks. I got an EVO Lte first. It came with the newest update. So I rooted, but no s-off, of course. Running stock ROM. Runs great. No complaints, except the multi-tasking, of course. No lags, though.
MIL decided to move into a smartphone and got the same phone a few days ago, with my help. Left it completely stock and worked on it extensively loading apps, configuring it, etc. I notice zero difference between the phones. Same performance, no lag on either one, etc.
P.S. Wife picked up an S3 on Saturday. I'm in charge of setting it up, too. I expected to be realy wowwed by it. But after a couple of days of playing with it, I think I like the Evo better. I like both phones, but I think I made the right choice for me. It would be nice if HTC was as developer friendly as Samsung, though.
Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
Sometimes after just flashing a new ROM its a good idea to factory reset first, it gets tested for the device intended and released for others but an image is basically a snapshot of the ROM and everything in it, when you factory restore a new ROM, you really start fresh
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Update: Factory reset fixed the lag... it was acting up still right after I did it, which is when I posted the thread. But, after letting it settle for a day or so, its fine. Awesomeness restored. Thanks for the help though, and when the modding bug hits me, I know where to go.
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I hope you have better luck than I did. The lag came back. So far, minus the last few things that aren't working properly, CM10 is the way to go. It's like a whole new phone. No Lag, smooth as butter, no more waiting for Sense to load, just a much better all around experience. Thanks to Toast and Deck, incredible work!
Still running like a champ... I think the phone was just confused with activation, setup and the evil AirRave that hates all my phones... Factory reset seems to have worked. Trying to hold off on root/rom for now...