Was gonna post this in another thread which I found out has closed so I'm asking here cause it seems appropriate:
I've never owned a device running iOS, so please could someone explain to me what is so restrictive about Apple's products? I know you can't have widgets or download from a third party without jailbreaking (surely you can download pdf files etc. Though, right?) but what else?
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There is no technical reason for that, Steve Jobs said once that they are putting the apps under a series of test before putting them on the market to provide an higher degree of quality, honestly i see every kind of junk in the App store, even apps that plays farts.
They are just trying to offer less and make a lot of money out of it.
Do not forget, Apple does nothing on its own, does not have even 1 single factory for their hardware, even their OS are just FreeBSD porting, it's just about fashion with their products, also they can't be open because of their business strategy, think about iTunes, iTunes is based on the fact that their OS is closed, if iOS will be opensource probably the music industry will leave iTunes and iTunes itself will die.
Being closed-source also facilitate the "dream factor" and the users can't verify how a feature work and they just use it a the brand tells them.
Apples products are restrictive because they try to lock you into Apple's ecosystem, you can't install apps from anywhere other than the iTunes store (without jailbreaking), they block apps from their store if they find a "moral objection" to them (trying to force their morality on the consumer) and finally they outright ban apps from their competitors (the iOS gmail app which has become an "applet" you can access through the browser).
There are some APIs that you don't have access to that you would have on Android.....mainly around hardware stuff. It also takes a lot longer to get an app approved in the app store. It can be up to a week or two weeks depending on you app. Compare this to Google Play where its almost instant.
Like the previous poster said, with iOS you are tied into using apple's eco system of the app store and itunes. Its not a bad thing really if you are happy with that, but some prefer the relative freedom of Android.
I've developed for both Android and iOS and personally I havent had any issue with restrictions on iOS......it hasnt dtopped me doing anything I wanted to do on that platform.
Good luck!
So it ain't as bad as everyone makes out?
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So it ain't as bad as everyone makes out?
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Bahahahahahahahahaha!
Take your IToy....connect and sync it with your computer...go to your friend's house. He has some music & vids on his IToy that you would also like on yours. Connect your IToy to his computer to get those music & vids...see what happens..
Or have the hard drive crash on your PC, get a new hard drive. Connect your IToy to your computer so you can copy all your music & vids back to your PC & see what happens..(this happened to somebody I know)
How are the things mentioned here anything but bad? Anytime competition is prevented is bad for the consumer since competition is the only thing that encourages innovation and without it every company would just follow planned obsolescence.
Very costly sdk which makes developing very easy...............
closed source nothing to learn nothing to gain............
very costly its just isnt worth what to pay ............
most of the apps are paid ... unlike android..........
you wont recive os updates and ports custom roms like android does..........
all things are complicated you need and should be done via ituunes unlike android plug in usb do what you want..........
no live wallpaper support out of the box(needs jail breaking)
same userinterface how dumb can it get without the desktop............
no customization...............
add to that damn costly..............
theres a bigger list but its waste of time discussing abt it.......
Thanks, wanted to know. Don't own an iOS device and don't plan to
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thats a good decison..........
Is there a difference in multitasking between the two operating systems?
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ya android had true multitasking from eclair itself............
ios has it from iphone 4s...... but android is seriously better at it............
Well, when I'm on game dev story and then I click home, the app stops, is that true multitasking?
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Depends on the app itself and whether your small ram pool may cause android to kill your app.
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Well, when I'm on game dev story and then I click home, the app stops, is that true multitasking?
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No. "True" multitasking requires the service to keep running in the background. What you're describing is just caching the app in the RAM.
So it depends on the apps themselves? I have 1GB RAM.
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iOS restrictions are as follows:
-Only available on one phone/tablet
-Can't install apps outside of app store without jailbreak, so no betas, console emulators
-No widgets, custom launchers, custom keyboards (like Swype)
in true multitasking the app shouldnt be killed and should be cached with no lag......thats true multitasking.
Actually, iOS proprietary, and from there go restrictions.
But Android is open to all, anyone can bring in their code.
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I am currently using the Evo 3D. I am curious why the default Android browser has so much trouble running Farmville at a decent speed and what the problem is related to. I was thinking that it might have something to do with a lack of hardware acceleration, but I was certain that it is now enabled on this device. Could someone help me?
I think the problem is..... you play Farmville
have you tried other browsers?
Try opera browser maybe. I think it has hardware acceleration
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Farmville has horrible coding and barely runs on some computers. Expecting it to run perfect on a cell phone is asking a bit much.
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Yeah, but if you want to look at it from a Android VS Apple equation, consider that iPhones run it through a buggy app, where we are closer to the original experience from our flash enabled browsers alone. Understanding this is a good first step to making optimization for Android from the developers irrelevant.
I have tried the default browser, which is the one that I have found comes closest, but is seconds slow behind user input. The Opera browser has problems related to its use of flash, and the game window will not even appear. I mainly use the Dolphin HD browser. Even when trying to force a desktop view, the screen says that the page is unable to be formatted for my device.
I have considered that is is a poorly coded game, and if so, there is indeed very little we can do about it. Thanks for the tip.
I thought I saw an app for Farmville once? Perhaps it was pulled or just a "clone" - I don't play Farmville, so I didn't pay attention...but have you looked for an actual app that ties into your account?
No. There is a similar game released in the Android market, but Zynga themselves have said for over a year that they were working on an app for us.
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No. There is a similar game released in the Android market, but Zynga themselves have said for over a year that they were working on an app for us.
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Kind of reminds me of netflix and hulu taking a year +
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Anybody know of a good resource to find tablet optimized apps? I really want a good research paper/citation manager like Papers on the iPad. Good news readers? Other apps which really harness the ability of the tablet?
On another note, I hope that Tapatalk updates their app to take advantage of tablet screen realestate.
For news reader, pulse and news360 are the best. I like pulse better personally. Haven't tried Google currents in the tab, but I hear that is good as well
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Newsr is simple, buggy but still quite decent for newsreading.
currents is pretty slick provided the sources they offer are interesting to you
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currents is pretty slick provided the sources they offer are interesting to you
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Ditto, pretty well executed app.
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Yeah currents is like the android version of flip board I have on my iPad. I wish the marketplace was more like apple app store where you can view all tablets apps only. in android you have to sift through everything and hopefully find tablet app or a universal one. This is where my iPad beats out the prime. way more tablet only apps for apple. I hope android picks up the pace with these tablet apps.
you should check out the site. Tablified @ tablified.com
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you should check out the site. Tablified @ tablified.com
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thanks, I just got the app from market place.
Optimized for Honeycomb apps list
http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/motorola-xoom-apps/570-optimized-honeycomb-apps-list.html
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Awesome, checking out those resources!
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Optimized for Honeycomb apps list
http://www.xoomforums.com/forum/motorola-xoom-apps/570-optimized-honeycomb-apps-list.html
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damn! Lmao thats one helluva list! Thanks for link
Try 'Android Tablet Apps' is good one.
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Google Currents, Taptu are great for the prime
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demandarin said:
damn! Lmao thats one helluva list! Thanks for link
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That's actually a pretty tiny list lol.
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That's actually a pretty tiny list lol.
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Yeah, it was just more than I originally thought. I have that tablified app also. did you create that?
marketplace should do like apple app store does and separate the tablet/optimized apps from the phone ones. would make things alot easier for us tablet owners.
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Yeah, it was just more than I originally thought. I have that tablified app also. did you create that?
marketplace should do like apple app store does and separate the tablet/optimized apps from the phone ones. would make things alot easier for us tablet owners.
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Ya I run Tablified and the app, though I didn't actually code it myself.
I agree that the market should have a tablet section but as Rubin said, it wont happen. Therefore Tablified will be around as long as its helpful to people. If Google does their own thing, and does it better (which I know they can) I'll gladly close shop.
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Got my Prime a few days ago (my first Android Tablet) and was also on a research of apps.
My Favorites are at the moment:
News Republic for Tablet - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.mobilesrepublic.appytablet
Google Currents
JotterPad HD - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.twondcc.jotterpadHDFree (there's also a pro version)
Especially JotterPad HD is such a beauty of app. A lovely designed text editor with some great features - especially for us Transformer Users. It supports common keyboard shortcuts for copy & paste as well as undo and redo. There also a timeline included for up to 10 verions of each document and also an export function into .txt and pdf files. Even font style can be changed.
But well, just take a look at his website or try it out http://2ndclasscitizen.com/2ndcc/
It's such a beauty using most of those new Android design features like fragments and so on. Hope we'll see more apps like this in the future.
I suspect Google is embarrassed by their tablet app selection and that is why they don't have a tablet optimized section with the exception of a few staff picks.
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@kingsway8605 - 6 months ago there was little tablet apps, but right now almost all new games and apps work great on tablets.
All my games are optimized for 1280x800 tablets. Link in my signature - it's mostly solitaires, lines, and a memory game using physics engine.
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@kingsway8605 - 6 months ago there was little tablet apps, but right now almost all new games and apps work great on tablets.
All my games are optimized for 1280x800 tablets. Link in my signature - it's mostly solitaires, lines, and a memory game using physics engine.
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Not really into games, more into media consumption. Netflix, crackle, google music, kindle, and rhapsody are pretty much the only media apps that take advantage of the tablet form factor. It doesn't even compare to the iPad. Flash is nice to have on a tablet though, so they make up for each other.
At this point, I am considering returning for an iPad 3. The qc issues are scaring me away a little. If the screen starts falling off, Asus will require me to ship at my own expense and wait 2-3 Weeks, whereas with an iPad the apple store will swap it out usually that day. The iPad 3 doesn't have a release date though and they may end up pulling an iPad 2s.
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Another myth busted( thats for you demandarin)
http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/study-ios-apps-crash-more-often-android-apps/2012-02-03
I was thinking that my browser crashes once in a while but apps have been great on my Prime and my wife is always *****ing about apps crashing on her ipad2.
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Haha funny stuff. We just got iPod touches fitted with scanners and credit card machines at my work and they get super slow if the program is left open and sometimes they crash. Could be on our end though since my it team build the apps from scratch. Either way its nice to know that the ios ecosystem has its own problems lol.
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Haha funny stuff. We just got iPod touches fitted with scanners and credit card machines at my work and they get super slow if the program is left open and sometimes they crash. Could be on our end though since my it team build the apps from scratch. Either way its nice to know that the ios ecosystem has its own problems lol.
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And they chose ipod's to develop on ?? i take it their jailbroken ?
Apple devices don't need to be jailbroken for official developers to make apps for it. You just have to go thru a certain protocol and guidelines..then it has to be approved by apple.
As for the crashing IOS apps I've know this for the longest. Apple people didn't think so because there is no notification that comes up to tell you app crashed. When IOS app crashes it either just freezes up or kicks you back to the homescreen. Plus things crash all the time in IOS but just happens in the background. That's how apple fools you into thinkn it runs so well when it really doesn't all the time. I have an Ipad so i know. It does run well but has its own flaws n set of limitations also. I had to jailbreak my Ipad only to be able to do half the things Android does right out the box. My Ipad or even an ipad2 can't hold a candle to the Prime or Android. IOS does have some really great apps though. Can't lie on that. Their tablet only apps section is HUGE! Once android catches up to tablet only apps is when it'll start to get neck n neck with IOS.
Plus I just saw an article debunking another myth. That IOS games are better than Android ones. ANDROID WON Some award for having more than have the games in the top ten mobile games of all time coming from TegraZone. TegraZone has pumped out some big hits for Android. Aside from Gameloft, Tegrazone makes the best games with best graphics n such.
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Apple devices don't need to be jailbroken for official developers to make apps for it. You just have to go thru a certain protocol and guidelines..then it has to be approved by apple.
As for the crashing IOS apps I've know this for the longest. Apple people didn't think so because there is no notification that comes up to tell you app crashed. When IOS app crashes it either just freezes up or kicks you back to the homescreen. Plus things crash all the time in IOS but just happens in the background. That's how apple fools you into thinkn it runs so well when it really doesn't all the time. I have an Ipad so i know. It does run well but has its own flaws n set of limitations also. I had to jailbreak my Ipad only to be able to do half the things Android does right out the box. My Ipad or even an ipad2 can't hold a candle to the Prime or Android. IOS does have some really great apps though. Can't lie on that. Their tablet only apps section is HUGE! Once android catches up to tablet only apps is when it'll start to get neck n neck with IOS.
Plus I just saw an article debunking another myth. That IOS games are better than Android ones. ANDROID WON Some award for having more than have the games in the top ten mobile games of all time coming from TegraZone. TegraZone has pumped out some big hits for Android. Aside from Gameloft, Tegrazone makes the best games with best graphics n such.
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Got a link I'd like too read it
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Got a link I'd like too read it
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Just go to tegrazone app on your prime. Its in the news section in there about IOS games vs. Tegrazone ones.
I'm pretty sure we went through apple for the App. Can't remember the exact number but our sales manager mentioned a pretty big license fee lol.
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I'm pretty sure we went through apple for the App. Can't remember the exact number but our sales manager mentioned a pretty big license fee lol.
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Most likely your app is not spread through the official Apple AppStore but another one set up by your company (or a contractor). Unless it's made for Jon Doe enduser.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/business/
Yeah its definitely not on the app store. Eww can't stand this small screen either lol. Between my Droid east and TFP its hard to readjust to.
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Android has this great feature for developers - crash reports. If some app crashes - please send them, they are really helpful! I even built in automatic crash reporting in some apps to help find issues from other markets than Android Market. Really, really helpful although it's sometimes hard to believe what people use Android on (Chinese device names are sometimes really strange and have bugs, for example report having OpenGL 2.0 while they don't have it).
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Android has this great feature for developers - crash reports. If some app crashes - please send them, they are really helpful! I even built in automatic crash reporting in some apps to help find issues from other markets than Android Market. Really, really helpful although it's sometimes hard to believe what people use Android on (Chinese device names are sometimes really strange and have bugs, for example report having OpenGL 2.0 while they don't have it).
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Yeah, crash reports are great ... if system information is added which most users don't unfortunately. So I never knew which device crashed my app nor the system status by that time.
Why did you choose an android device?why not ios device?
I have an android device and except from the open system and maybe the widgets (I'm not using but still...)why android is better from ios?I'm really asking because I want to buy a phone and I'm in dilemma.(forget about the hardware lets say I choose a phone with specs exactly like the iphone)
Here is why I think that ios is better:
1.the system works very fast and smooth and its very easy to use.
2.the "multi tasking" works pretty well even that its not a real multitasking because I can quit from numbers of apps and return to my stop point in these apps (in android the system can close it.
3.in ios when I close an app it won't restart itself after few seconds(in android apps like facebook,whatsapp google maps tap tap 4 etc restart after few seconds)
4.ios got more apps and all the popular apps will be first on the iphone.
5.I wont get a message that says that the app isnt compatible with my device.
6.I already have an good system and I wont need to change the rom(I know that ios dosent have roms but u got my point)
7.apps run more smoothly on ios device than on an android device.
I'm really asking why android is better because as I said before I want to buy a new phone so its or an iphone or android phone.
Thanks for all the helpers.
P.S
don't say that android is an open system because I already know that
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I am an "hacker" (I don't find correct word, in Italian is "smanettone"), I enjoy flashing, I enjoy change look often, and again, and again...I love possibilities that android give us..upple device can be a great hardware, ok, but android give us more customization. Apps are in porting, now we have Jetpack too
Is normal, if that u have an small devices, like Galaxy Gio or similar you are limited..
And other: android is for all...did u see an apple device not expansive (not excist less than 500€ in italy)..and we have android phone that costs 80€...
And finally...ANDROID IS OPEN!!
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kfirbep said:
Why did you choose an android device?why not ios device?
I have an android device and except from the open system and maybe the widgets (I'm not using but still...)why android is better from ios?I'm really asking because I want to buy a phone and I'm in dilemma.(forget about the hardware lets say I choose a phone with specs exactly like the iphone)
Here is why I think that ios is better:
1.the system works very fast and smooth and its very easy to use.
2.the "multi tasking" works pretty well even that its not a real multitasking because I can quit from numbers of apps and return to my stop point in these apps (in android the system can close it.
3.in ios when I close an app it won't restart itself after few seconds(in android apps like facebook,whatsapp google maps tap tap 4 etc restart after few seconds)
4.ios got more apps and all the popular apps will be first on the iphone.
5.I wont get a message that says that the app isnt compatible with my device.
6.I already have an good system and I wont need to change the rom(I know that ios dosent have roms but u got my point)
7.apps run more smoothly on ios device than on an android device.
I'm really asking why android is better because as I said before I want to buy a new phone so its or an iphone or android phone.
Thanks for all the helpers.
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don't say that android is an open system because I already know that
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LOL smh.. Just get an iPhone and be done with it. If you need to ask then it's better to be in the walled garden.. LOL next thing he's gonna ask why have root? Da appz still not smooth as iPhonez why do I needz rootz?
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When ever a friend tells me that his Iphone is superior I always set them a simple task
My pc in the corner has a shared folder with music on it. Quickly brows the folder and copy a song to your device, then set it as a ring tone, all over wifi, no cables no itunes just you your device and the network share. They are quick to say sure let me just download this server software to your pc and add this app to my phone yada yada yada
While he is trying to explain his way out of this I grab the song trim it convert it and email it to his Iphone all from me S3, I love the look on his face when In mid explanation he gets my mail, Just save the attachment I say, and play it for us! Oh you can't? Shame
Such fun the iSheep are to play with
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LOL smh.. Just get an iPhone and be done with it. If you need to ask then it's better to be in the walled garden.. LOL next thing he's gonna ask why have root? Da appz still not smooth as iPhonez why do I needz rootz?
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I agree 100%, why do you want us to convince you to do something you don't seem inclined towards? Buy the iPhone, solid choice, if that is your desire and it fills your needs. I find these posts kind of pointless, are people really looking for others to justify their purchases, or just trying to start another Android vs. IOS war....
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I agree 100%, why do you want us to convince you to do something you don't seem inclined towards? Buy the iPhone, solid choice, if that is your desire and it fills your needs. I find these posts kind of pointless, are people really looking for others to justify their purchases, or just trying to start another Android vs. IOS war....
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+1.
Just to show few examples of why is Android better and why this is called open os, watch out the video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiY1kSTHZw&sns=em
Jellybean is smooth like butter and has better features than iOS. Crappy iTunes took up >50GB for its app backups on my PC.
Almost all apps are available on both os. In fact I find more useful ones like Tasker, Timeriffic.. etc in Android. Tell us few apps which are only available for iOS without which you can't live with Android.
It's individual perception but I think Android is best os for hundreds of reasons..
Edit: Forgot to mention Google Music(20000 songs storage) , Google Now (much much better than crappy Siri), Google Navigation, Google Maps and last but not the least XDA and the community
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After actually having used an iPad, I can tell you the biggest reason I would never go IOS: NO FILE MANAGER! I guess I just took it for granted on android, but I cannot survive without being able to manage the files on my device either while on the device itself, or even a PC! I am not just talking songs and pictures, I mean being able to download any file type, than transferring it onto any PC without iTunes having to bog it down.
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Because a Galaxy Nexus cost half of what an iPhone cost.
ZaJules said:
When ever a friend tells me that his Iphone is superior I always set them a simple task
My pc in the corner has a shared folder with music on it. Quickly brows the folder and copy a song to your device, then set it as a ring tone, all over wifi, no cables no itunes just you your device and the network share. They are quick to say sure let me just download this server software to your pc and add this app to my phone yada yada yada
While he is trying to explain his way out of this I grab the song trim it convert it and email it to his Iphone all from me S3, I love the look on his face when In mid explanation he gets my mail, Just save the attachment I say, and play it for us! Oh you can't? Shame
Such fun the iSheep are to play with
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Haha awesome way to show them how LIMITED is iOS.
OP if you really want my opinion ill tell you this way, if you want to spend alot for a fancy glittered phone that gets apps first and you don't care about customization/functionality then go with the iPhone.
But if you want the full freedom of customization + ALOT more functionality in core itself then get an Android like Galaxy S3 or HTC One X.
By the way i recommend you to watch series of 5 videos explaining why is Android better than iOS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiY1kSTHZw
Having used both, i went with Android, all reasons summed up in the next paragraph, but feel free to read all the post:
With Android you adapt the device to your needs. With iOS you adapt yourself to the device's needs.
-budget
-ui customization: switch wifi, data, playlists, firewalls, or any adjustable feature with a single tap. No need to go to adjustments or browse trough menus.
-app integration: no more juggling between apps to do simple tasks. Browse a file, and you can alter it with any app that supports the file.
-file formats support: you cannot simply share a mp3 in iOS. You cannot download and edit any file in iOS.
-You cannot use your device as usb in iOS (having to set itunes and syncing for just adding a couple of songs or pics is retarded). No usb cable? Use wifi, 3g tethering or Bluetooth.
-copy and paste: files, folders, text, contacts, entire web pages or just selected content.
That's just the stock features, if you root your device then everything goes. Rooted android > jailbroken iphone by a million miles.
The more shady stuff:
-backup your system, switch phones, restore your system, just like nothing changed (not even game saved data)
-decide what information the apps can access. This includes contact data, imei, sim number, imsi number, 3g, wifi, and any personal info.
-like a song? Download it directly with your phone, for free. Same with youtube videos.
-piracy, yup, good piracy on android, wouldn't recommend it, but its there, like everything else Android is about choice.
-speaking of piracy, torrent downloads.
-ported apps. Good luck trying to get your iphone3 run some apps (mostly games) for the iphone5 or iphone4s. I own a galaxy mini, that can run games for galaxy s3 because someone ported them.
-emulators: nintendo, play station, dos.
-terminal emulator: speak directly to the OS, tell it what to do, watch the magic happen.
-wifikill: nuff said.
Finally hardware:
-i just gave my old android to my cousin, he openned it, changed sims, and that was it, in less than 2 minutes. No warranty lost, no need for screwdrivers, no specially shaped sim cards, no need to get a contract or activate or any of that crap.
-battery sucks cuz its old? Same as above, open it, put new battery in, close it.
-the best for the last. Take that cheap plastic android phone, drop it, all parts go flying out, so just put it back together, maybe the plastic chipped. Drop that metal and glass iphone, cry at the cracked screen and chipped edges.
That being said, if you want a solid phone that just works get the new iphone, you won't regret it, but chances are you paid 500 bucks for beastly hardware you'll never get to use at its fullest (how many processors do you really need if all you do is change the wallpaper, browse fb and play some games!?)
Android is best simply because it does everything Apple does and more.
You have to void your warranty just to install an app that didn't come from the market to your phone - YOUR PHONE!
You never truly own an iPhone, you simply LEASE IT and in doing so you must follow the terms
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LOL smh.. Just get an iPhone and be done with it. If you need to ask then it's better to be in the walled garden.. LOL next thing he's gonna ask why have root? Da appz still not smooth as iPhonez why do I needz rootz?
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daveid said:
I agree 100%, why do you want us to convince you to do something you don't seem inclined towards? Buy the iPhone, solid choice, if that is your desire and it fills your needs. I find these posts kind of pointless, are people really looking for others to justify their purchases, or just trying to start another Android vs. IOS war....
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scorpio09 said:
+1.
Just to show few examples of why is Android better and why this is called open os, watch out the video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMiY1kSTHZw&sns=em
Jellybean is smooth like butter and has better features than iOS. Crappy iTunes took up >50GB for its app backups on my PC.
Almost all apps are available on both os. In fact I find more useful ones like Tasker, Timeriffic.. etc in Android. Tell us few apps which are only available for iOS without which you can't live with Android.
It's individual perception but I think Android is best os for hundreds of reasons..
Edit: Forgot to mention Google Music(20000 songs storage) , Google Now (much much better than crappy Siri), Google Navigation, Google Maps and last but not the least XDA and the community
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The reason that I'm asking is because everyone around me tells me that android is better but than I use one of my friends iphone(that think iphone is better)and I see how easy it is to use,for example ig I quit from an app and want return
to the app I just click twice on home button and there all the apps that runing found so I don't need to search in the menu for my apps.in android there is somthing like that but it does it with recently apps and not open apps(and it has a limit place in the recent apps).
I don't want to buy a phone that I will sorry I for buying it,this is why I asked not because I want to cause an iphone vs android war..
Thanks for everyone who answered and helped
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kfirbep said:
to the app I just click twice on home button and there all the apps that runing found so I don't need to search in the menu for my apps.in android there is somthing like that but it does it with recently apps and not open apps(and it has a limit place in the recent apps).
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Perhaps you tried an older version of android. As of 4.0, there is no more limit to the number of recent apps.
The "open apps" in iOS is, in fact, a misnomer. It's similarly a list of recent apps. Indeed, most iOS apps aren't even allowed to be "open" for more than 5 seconds before being forced into suspension. Android, on the other hand, has more flexible multitasking abilities. See the following article for details on both:
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/112013-how-multitasking-works-on-android-and-ios
Did you said apple has more apps than android huh??
we should polite enough to press thanks for everyone helped uS..
you are dead when you stop learning new things..
Customization. Anything you don't like about your Android device you can change. You can even make it look like an iphone if you wish. That's really why I can't use an ios device
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Android - true flexibilty with any data sync, user modification to ur own hearts content, unlimited storage capacity through sdcards and cloud syncing and much much more. Iphone doesnt even come close to androids capabilities, plain and simple.
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Let's just put it this way. My android device looks 100 times better then any iPhone that has ever come out(because every iPhone looks the same). My android phone acts like a phone and has never had 1 problem since it came out (not like the iPhone where they failed to admit to their antenna problems). IOS looks like **** compared to the UI of android.
In short, this is why cry babies of apple want to sue android, because all in all they know that android is superior in every way
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The number of tablet apps designed for the iPad is much greater than those designed for the Nexus 10. However, in some cases the Nexus 10 doesn't need an app to do the job better than the iPad.
For example, trading on the CMCMarkets Web site needs Flash which is available on Windows or Android browsers but not on the Apple browser. Therefore, a seperate app is required on the iPad to trade on CMCMarkets and the one available is not as good for trading using the Windows or Android browsers.
So, although the iPad has more tablet designed apps than the Nexus 10 some of them are to compensate for not having Flash.
I'm all Android, but iPad's app ecosystem is great, even if they don't have flash.
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Actually many apps are created on iOS because it lacks Flash, but that's no excuse for developers not to create them for Android, especially now that Flash is officially off Android. But you can access very much on Nexus 10 through a flash-supported browser, that is a minimum for me before buying a $500 device.
Is there a browser BTW which allows splitscreen, or one that has a large screen widget to use on desktop?
locoboi187 said:
I'm all Android, but iPad's app ecosystem is great, even if they don't have flash.
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The problem with the iPad, for me (and i owned one briefly before i sold it,Wifi iPad2 16GB) is that the apps cost more than the Android equivalents sometimes and sometimes an app is free on Android but you need to pay for it on IOS.
The iPad apps are great when they are tablet optimised, there are more of them, but if you get an app that's not optimized unlike Android where it fills the screen, the app stays phone sized on the iPad, which is just weird.
Then when you add in a crap keyboard, no widgets (this was a biggie for me) and a restrictive ecosystem it ended up being sold.
Which was great as it helped with the cost of my just ordered Nexus 10.
Each to their own.
TheBlueRaja said:
The problem with the iPad, for me (and i owned one briefly before i sold it,Wifi iPad2 16GB) is that the apps cost more than the Android equivalents sometimes and sometimes an app is free on Android but you need to pay for it on IOS.
The iPad apps are great when they are tablet optimised, there are more of them, but if you get an app that's not optimized unlike Android where it fills the screen, the app stays phone sized on the iPad, which is just weird.
Then when you add in a crap keyboard, no widgets (this was a biggie for me) and a restrictive ecosystem it ended up being sold.
Which was great as it helped with the cost of my just ordered Nexus 10.
Each to their own.
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One of the great benifits of Android is that you can change it to suit yourself. For example, I love the Hackers keyboard with the row of numbers on view like the Galaxy Note and the easy access to the other characters using the shift key.
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One of the great benifits of Android is that you can change it to suit yourself. For example, I love the Hackers keyboard with the row of numbers on view like the Galaxy Note and the easy access to the other characters using the shift key.
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Yeah, but i also think its one of its weaknesses for the average joe, the iPad is simple, Android can be confusing due to the number of options.
I hoping what I saw from Skype 3.0 yesterday, could be the start of developers taking android tablets more seriously...
I have read that there is also the added benefit that app devs for android don't have to re-optimize their apps for tablets (resolution etc. like many devs had to do with the release of the retina iPad AND the original release of the ipad with supporting the larger screen size) apparently all the apps are able to scale up resolution without having to re-optimize...at least I thought I read that somewhere!
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I have read that there is also the added benefit that app devs for android don't have to re-optimize their apps for tablets (resolution etc. like many devs had to do with the release of the retina iPad AND the original release of the ipad with supporting the larger screen size) apparently all the apps are able to scale up resolution without having to re-optimize...at least I thought I read that somewhere!
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Optimization =/= Upscaling
Upscaling is not exactly but somewhat like stretching everything to fit the screen. There are algorithms to make it look better but that's the basic idea.
Optimization is making images and an interface directly for a tablet. This won't need any stretching and such and will always look better.
The apps for Android tablets are bad.....they just are. If you deny that, then you're not interested in a serious conversation on the topic. You're just biased towards Android to the point where you will make any excuse possible to make it sound better than it is.
I love Android as and OS, but Android tablets are just not worth it at this point. Apps like:
- ESPN Scorecenter
- Ebay
- Pandora
- Chase Mobile
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet)
- Facebook
SUCK on Android tablets. And these are all FREE
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The apps for Android tablets are bad.....they just are. If you deny that, then you're not interested in a serious conversation on the topic. You're just biased towards Android to the point where you will make any excuse possible to make it sound better than it is.
I love Android as and OS, but Android tablets are just not worth it at this point. Apps like:
- ESPN Scorecenter
- Ebay
- Pandora
- Chase Mobile
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet)
- Facebook
SUCK on Android tablets. And these are all FREE
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Or you just don't care about a single one of the apps mentioned. Okay, I do use eBay for notifications, but I couldn't care less about its look.
mva5580 said:
The apps for Android tablets are bad.....they just are. If you deny that, then you're not interested in a serious conversation on the topic. You're just biased towards Android to the point where you will make any excuse possible to make it sound better than it is.
I love Android as and OS, but Android tablets are just not worth it at this point. Apps like:
- ESPN Scorecenter
- Ebay
- Pandora
- Chase Mobile
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet)
- Facebook
SUCK on Android tablets. And these are all FREE
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- ESPN Scorecenter - Don't care
- Ebay - Don't care
- Pandora - Only use it on my phone
- Chase Mobile - I use the web site
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet) - I use the web site
- Facebook - It's good enough for what it does
I'd take quality (Android) over quantity (iOS). iOS has a ton of useless crapplets. Can't do without Groove IP, Lecture Notes, Droid48, Google Maps/Navigation/Streetview/Gmail/Docs/Translate/YouTube, OnLive and many more.
mi7chy said:
I'd take quality (Android) over quantity (iOS). iOS has a ton of useless crapplets. Can't do without Groove IP, Lecture Notes, Droid48, Google Maps/Navigation/Streetview/Gmail/Docs/Translate/YouTube, OnLive and many more.
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That makes absolutely no sense. iOS and Android both have very high quality apps and both have some pretty useless apps as well. For every app you listed (probably with the exception of maps, LOL), there's a high quality iOS equivalent app for it.
Anybody with half a brain could find an app to suit their needs on both systems.
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Or you just don't care about a single one of the apps mentioned. Okay, I do use eBay for notifications, but I couldn't care less about its look.
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Techie2012 said:
- ESPN Scorecenter - Don't care
- Ebay - Don't care
- Pandora - Only use it on my phone
- Chase Mobile - I use the web site
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet) - I use the web site
- Facebook - It's good enough for what it does
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This is exactly why we won't see that many tablet apps. People get so worked up when an app isn't holo themed but no one cares about having tablet apps. Android users just don't care and when users don't care, developers don't care. When folks start getting as sensitive to the lack of tablet optimization in an app as they do with an app that's not holo themed, that's when we'll start seeing more tablet apps.
I care and I make it a point to contact developers to ask them about a tablet version of their app. Be the change you want to see. Start caring and devs will follow.
-email developers and ask them for a tablet app
-let your voices be heard! Leave a comment and don't be afraid to dock them a couple stars for the lack of tablet optimization.
-don't be cheap!! Reward developers who taken the time to optimize their apps. I think the second posters in this thread said apps were too expensive or something. Seriously. Apps cost less than a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
This mentality that stretched out apps are just as good is absurd. People love to use the argument that stretching an app is better than what the iPad is doing. While that may be true in some cases, iPad users rarely have to worry about such things. Any app that you'd likely use on iPad will probably have an optimized version for it.
I know this may not be the most serious thing in the world but honestly, complaining about it in forums isn't going to do anything. Be proactive. Let developers know what we need and if there are enough people who want it, it will surely get done.
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mva5580 said:
The apps for Android tablets are bad.....they just are. If you deny that, then you're not interested in a serious conversation on the topic. You're just biased towards Android to the point where you will make any excuse possible to make it sound better than it is.
I love Android as and OS, but Android tablets are just not worth it at this point. Apps like:
- ESPN Scorecenter
- Ebay
- Pandora
- Chase Mobile
- Amazon Mobile (doesn't even exist for Android tablets yet)
- Facebook
SUCK on Android tablets. And these are all FREE
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I don't think anyone will deny that Apple has more tablet apps. I will disagree that android apps are bad. I don't think your assessment is fair.
I've never had problems with a few of those apps that you listed. The others I haven't used.
Saying android tablets aren't worth it because a few apps on Android aren't as good is only true to you. I don't use my tablets only for those apps, and when I need those apps, they are there they get the job done just the same.
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Anybody with half a brain could find an app to suit their needs on both systems.
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For anyone with half a brain I do highly recommend iOS devices with its limitations and restrictiveness. Even Apple's cofounder Steve Wozniak commented that it's good for mentally challenged people:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/14/even-woz-thinks-the-android-bests-the-iphone.html
"...people who are just scared of computers altogether and don’t want to use them. The iPhone is the least frightening thing. For that kind of person who is scared of complexity..."
The thing is if google wants devs to develop more tablet optimized apps they should start by polishing their own.
Just look at the horrible compressed music art in the play music app, i ****ing hate how it downsamples whatever your album art is, now look at the album art on the iPad music player, the full res art looks great. I have ordered my 32gb Nexus 10 but this seriously ticks me off as i own an iPad 3 and a TP. Don't get me started wih the clock app.
Google's own Google+ app works better on the iPad3 than the Nexus 10
ridiculous...
Could not agree more I have a note 2 for phone and ipad 3 for tablet. I also have a nexus 7 and android tablet suck in the app department big time it's not even funny. Ipad has it beat by a long shot and this is why ipad is so popular. Plus all developers concentrate on iOS and ipad before they even consider android. It's a shame I wish they were at least equal but don't matter what specs android tablet have if they don't have the apps majority of your normal users will not buy it period.
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