Looks like I've fallen victim (as well as others) to not noticing that there are 2 forums for the Galaxy S3 and bricking my phone not even 24 hrs after getting it in my hands.
Any way this forum could give at least *some* indication in the forum name that it is for the International version? It seems like a simple way to save a lot of people a lot of stress and $$. Had I seen International version in the forum name, or somewhere in a sub-forum, I would have avoided it altogether and easily avoided hard bricking my phone.
In my case what I did when rooting was follow this forum to this thread:
SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 TOOLKIT V3.0
and noticed that AT&T SGS3 uses a different toolkit, so i followed the link to:
SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 QCOM TOOLKIT V1.0
thinking it was just a different thread in this same forum (I've never come across split forums in any of the previous phones Android or otherwise) I followed everything there, and had zero issues with rooting and getting CWM on there.
I went back to the Android development sub-forum and decided I'd stick with a ROM similar to the stock rom for starters (seems the least adventurous, just in case), the most common seeming to be CM9 or Omega. I've already seen CM9, so I figured I'd try out Omega. Downloaded it, copied it over to internal SD, followed the usual boot to CWM, backup, clear data, clear cache, and flash zip.
Installer ran through, said it was successful, and showed an error about a mismatched property (can't remember the exact error). Installer said it would reboot, I clicked go and that was the last the screen turned on.
I've had at least a fair amount of experience with flashing ROMs, bootloaders, etc. across several phones and have had no serious hard bricking issues until recently. I usually pay attention to indications of different versions of a particular phone and which ROMs, etc go with which phone but this one got the best of me.
Note the heads up on the first page .
PM mods to change to International in the forum header .
Wont stop those who fail to read the instructions same happened on SGS2 presumption by users that this is the forum for my phone .Says I9300 on the lid but the phone in question is SGH 1747 not I9300 .
jje
The forum name is "Samsung Galaxy S III I9300"
Last time I check, this number is only for international SGS3
Seems like I start to think like a Green Day's song...
Sorry to hear your phone is broken.
Have you tried getting it into download mode or using a Jig?
One of both methods should get you running again.
Btw, cm9 is the absolute opposite of stock Rom: it has NOTHING Samsung-specific since it is built from heavily modified Google sourcecode,
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Mopral said:
The forum name is "Samsung Galaxy S III I9300"
Last time I check, this number is only for international SGS3
Seems like I start to think like a Green Day's song...
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This. We have to tread lightly in the world of modifications.
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Nobody have to change anything!
Some people have to learn to READ!
Is your device's model the GT-i9300??? If you've killed it than it for sure is NOT!
"You're not very bright, are you? I like that in a man."
- Kathleen Turner, "Body Heat".
Her best line from that film? "I never forget a face I've sat on."
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People have already explained how to differentiate between the international version and the US version.
This forum has I9300 written on top, that means international version.
Your phone has its own forum easily found by searching for att galaxy sIII.
Your phone isn't the I9300 so why would you flash it with stuff for that model??
Would you flash a kernel for a I9250 or a rom for an I515? No.
Sorry this happened to your phone but it happens so often here that now not a single f*ck will be given as it is down to not reading and not searching. User error.
This has been fixed before so try search here and in your respective forum.
Lesson learned.
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Even with the stop if you are a Yank or Canuck post they are still coming here and flashing wrong firmware today .
No way around majority wont read and if adding SGS3 i9300 to the forum header is going to save a few i don't have a problem . But will they even read that forum header .
jje
Americans like to sue everyone for their own stupidity. So first they have to convince themselves that everyone except themselves are to blame.
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people complain about my sig lol, they say its condescending and im not helping when i just post "read my sig".
i just got tired of posting the same answer and decided to put in my sig.
but n00bs still come read a few posts then flash away and dont know why their phone doesnt work, then post "whats the fix" and blame the dev for having a flaky rom
JJEgan said:
Even with the stop if you are a Yank or Canuck post they are still coming here and flashing wrong firmware today .
No way around majority wont read and if adding SGS3 i9300 to the forum header is going to save a few i don't have a problem . But will they even read that forum header .
jje
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The funny thing is that it says i9300 in the Forum name! It seams that he is not the only one that is not reading!
Maybe instead of labeling it, we use colors and shapes.. maybe some people will understand that better than words..
It's obvious hokked on fonics dident werk fer dem
It name I9300, is your phone I9300? if not, then is your problem. No naming issue on here.
By the way, sorry to hear your phone is bricked.
Next time read more in proper, don't simply shoot as you not read in proper.
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Note the heads up on the first page .
PM mods to change to International in the forum header .
Wont stop those who fail to read the instructions same happened on SGS2 presumption by users that this is the forum for my phone .Says I9300 on the lid but the phone in question is SGH 1747 not I9300 .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756332
jje
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Americans like to sue everyone for their own stupidity. So first they have to convince themselves that everyone except themselves are to blame.
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Really?
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Really?
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Definitely on the first part as proof is the number that have posted after that was stickied right at the top .
Second part not something i would ever say in regard to our beloved cousins in the US of A .
jje
Closed, we even have a sticky right here in both the general and Q/A sections, and in a moment the dev section which should direct people to the right place, sorry you decided not to read enough stuff before flashing your £400 device
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Hello
I just purchased the AT&T Galaxy S2. Got it home and rooted already. All works well so far with no issues. However I do notice on my boot screen, the usual boot logo but on the bottom of the display is a yellow Explanation Point. Is this normal? It still boots up fine and operates as it should. I was just wondering what the yellow explanation point means.
Thank You
If you want the exclamation triangle to go away, flash back to stock kernel. Your using the insecure kernel that was needed to root.
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You can get that to go away if you use Entropy's method to restore back to stock which will also root the phone in the process. Be aware though if you do anything like install CWM, you'll get that exclamation point back. It's basically a visual indicator that the phone has been modified... but that's all it is. If you can simply ignore it, you're fine.
Oh Ok Thank You. Guess its a easy indication for any AT&T reps to do a quick check as to check to see if the phone has been hacked or not.
Can you tell me if the bootloader has been unlocked as well with this root method?
To be honest, the AT&T reps (if knowledgable) really don't care about rooting and custom roms. When I picked up my phone I spend a good 10 minutes talking with two of the guys about rooting the phones, cyanogen 7, and how to tether without AT&T noticing. Another rep came over during the conversation and the only thing he said was "root that thing the first chance you have".
How do you get stock rom back. I've only had iPhones and learned everything about jail breaking them, decided to give up iPhone and get gs2. I really want this yellow triangle to go away.
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How do you get stock rom back. I've only had iPhones and learned everything about jail breaking them, decided to give up iPhone and get gs2. I really want this yellow triangle to go away.
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5 minutes of reading the dev forum and you'd have your answer. The dev forum is still only one page!
Plug in a jig from powered off state and it will clear flash counter and remove the triangle even if you are still on a custom kernel
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Can you tell me if the bootloader has been unlocked as well with this root method?
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It was never locked in the first place.
The closest thing we have to a locked bootloader is the triangle warning/flash counter. But that's pretty benign.
(Exception: The bootloader of newer Samsungs will only accept signed binaries when trying to overwrite the bootloader it seems. But there is no valid reason to be flashing bootloaders right now, and rarely ever is.)
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5 minutes of reading the dev forum and you'd have your answer. The dev forum is still only one page!
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people aren't ready a 1 page forum. imagine what happens when it reaches 10+? dear god....lol
Many of you are such asses. I've read comments on these forums where people have asked questions and many of you are ruDr and smart asses. you all love the Android platform and it would seem to me that you all would be excited to help and assist someone new. If for no other reason to get more people to see and understand just how awesome the platform is. Instead many of you are only interested in showing how smart you and dumb you can make others seem. The iPhone community was so different from this group of arrogant jerks. I say that about most not all.
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Many of you are such asses. I've read comments on these forums where people have asked questions and many of you are ruDr and smart asses. you all love the Android platform and it would seem to me that you all would be excited to help and assist someone new. If for no other reason to get more people to see and understand just how awesome the platform is. Instead many of you are only interested in showing how smart you and dumb you can make others seem. The iPhone community was so different from this group of arrogant jerks. I say that about most not all.
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calm down - no one is being a "jerk" or "smart ass."
you obviously didn't search for the answer to your question before you asked it - that's all that people are asking you to do.
if everyone were to post a new thread for every question that they have, then the forums will become cluttered with repetitive threads.
all Entropy512 was saying was that this device is so new, that the forums are still very small (the answer to your question constantly remains in the top 5 or so threads in the dev section) - so searching for your solution should be pretty easy at this point.
people are always happy to help, but if it is obvious that you didn't search the forums before asking your question (most of the time, a simple google search is sufficient), you can definitely expect people to tell you to search before posting.
SGS2 i777 showing i9100 on boot screen?!?
I've had my SGS2 (I777) for a week now, it is rooted, when it boots, the splash screen not only contains the yield sign, but it says Galaxy S2 then lists the i9100 model... is this normal or was something done incorrectly in rooting...
I used the exact directions from the sticky root post of using Odin and CWM... i found this very odd, i haven't really had many issues other than people complaining about my voice during calls... i need to figure out how to fix that part especially...
smithcalvin said:
Many of you are such asses. I've read comments on these forums where people have asked questions and many of you are ruDr and smart asses. you all love the Android platform and it would seem to me that you all would be excited to help and assist someone new. If for no other reason to get more people to see and understand just how awesome the platform is. Instead many of you are only interested in showing how smart you and dumb you can make others seem. The iPhone community was so different from this group of arrogant jerks. I say that about most not all.
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mfpearson said:
calm down - no one is being a "jerk" or "smart ass."
you obviously didn't search for the answer to your question before you asked it - that's all that people are asking you to do.
if everyone were to post a new thread for every question that they have, then the forums will become cluttered with repetitive threads.
all Entropy512 was saying was that this device is so new, that the forums are still very small (the answer to your question constantly remains in the top 5 or so threads in the dev section) - so searching for your solution should be pretty easy at this point.
people are always happy to help, but if it is obvious that you didn't search the forums before asking your question (most of the time, a simple google search is sufficient), you can definitely expect people to tell you to search before posting.
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yeah. searching. its only in the rules that you agree to when you register on the forums. there is a video to watch explaining it, and its littered throughout the forums that you should SEARCH before posting a question or whatever random thought pops into your brain.
is it so wrong to assume that when you agree to the forum rules, that you would, i dont know, actually follow some of them?
ChaoVizua said:
I've had my SGS2 (I777) for a week now, it is rooted, when it boots, the splash screen not only contains the yield sign, but it says Galaxy S2 then lists the i9100 model... is this normal or was something done incorrectly in rooting...
I used the exact directions from the sticky root post of using Odin and CWM... i found this very odd, i haven't really had many issues other than people complaining about my voice during calls... i need to figure out how to fix that part especially...
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This is covered all over these forums in multiple threads. It's normal after flashing a custom kernel.
ChaoVizua said:
I've had my SGS2 (I777) for a week now, it is rooted, when it boots, the splash screen not only contains the yield sign, but it says Galaxy S2 then lists the i9100 model... is this normal or was something done incorrectly in rooting...
I used the exact directions from the sticky root post of using Odin and CWM... i found this very odd, i haven't really had many issues other than people complaining about my voice during calls... i need to figure out how to fix that part especially...
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Since the recent topic of conversation is people who don't read or search the forum threads before posting, I find it amusing how this post is right in the middle of said conversation. How many times are people going to ask the exact same question? You can find the answer (being asked by another random person) on pretty much every page of every thread on this sub-forum.
I wasn't asking about the yellow yield sign. I was asking about why it would say i9100. I've literally searched a week and seen nothing mentioning that it is normal to say i9100 when the phone is actually a i777.
ChaoVizua said:
I wasn't asking about the yellow yield sign. I was asking about why it would say i9100. I've literally searched a week and seen nothing mentioning that it is normal to say i9100 when the phone is actually a i777.
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Because Samsung didn't bother to change the logo that is displayed when in warning mode.
I bought USB jig on Ebay for $3, removed the yellow triangle and the reference to I9100
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Battery was fully charged when i did the process, all processes went thru fine then the phone just shut off and i can't turn back on, any ideas? appreciate the help
Can you get into recovery?
nope, no response from phone
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nope, no response from phone
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Did you do a full wipe of data and cache before flashing the rom?
Yes i did, but i found out what happened, the villain rom is not compatible with the tmobile version of the galaxy s2, don't know what to do now
cast466 said:
Yes i did, but i found out what happened, the villain rom is not compatible with the tmobile version of the galaxy s2, don't know what to do now
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You have to carry it in under warranty (you know the drill ).
wait, WHAT?
some obscure thread is 'mentioning' that VillainRom is not compatible with Tmobile's GS2, oh and btw it bricked my phone and there's no blatant warning or any other mention of this on VillainRom's thread and download in here?
i bricked mine three days ago and up until NOW have been thinking it was something i did wrong. just happened across this thread as i was JUST ABOUT to run the thing again on my new GS2.
i can't believe the mods in XDAD are letting this go. damn. i'm glad i was looking around for some suggestions which led to this little comment.
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Well considering that VR is in the Europe s2 section then user error is at fault if you have a T-Mobile or at&t they are different and the user should at least take the time to look at the forums present before flashing ROMs hence there is no need for Pulser or any other chef to note that its not compatible with XY&Z....
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Well considering that VR is in the Europe s2 section then user error is at fault if you have a T-Mobile or at&t they are different and the user should at least take the time to look at the forums present before flashing ROMs hence there is no need for Pulser or any other chef to note that its not compatible with XY&Z....
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except the many end up there from Google and don't even know that they're in the "Europe S2" section. i had no idea til just now.
simply saying some bolder warning might save a few people a very expensive phone. i found a couple others who'd made the same mistake - there are lots of NOOBS in the way of ROMS like myself who don't even know. your forum is HUGE, and there are MANY google results linking you. that's a LOT of NOOBS ...
a little warning would have saved our asses. T-Mobile saved mine, tho, so it's all ok.
There is a completely seperate forum for the Tmobile SGSII. When the SGSII, and probably that ROM came out there were no variations, just the European version. It is not up to a dev to save your phone, it is up to you to put in the time and research before deciding to mess with it.
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except the many end up there from Google and don't even know that they're in the "Europe S2" section. i had no idea til just now.
simply saying some bolder warning might save a few people a very expensive phone. i found a couple others who'd made the same mistake - there are lots of NOOBS in the way of ROMS like myself who don't even know. your forum is HUGE, and there are MANY google results linking you. that's a LOT of NOOBS ...
a little warning would have saved our asses. T-Mobile saved mine, tho, so it's all ok.
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It is not our place to do your homework for you. This is what happens when people dont research before rewriting the OS on their phone. People are so fast to want to flash a custom rom before they even know what it is doing that this happens. Flashing a custom rom is not for everyone. If you cant put at least 20 hours into just reading up before you do it maybe you should rethink flashing a custom rom. Roms are not for the average person as they dont have the time to keep it up. I am all for custom roms but have come to understand that the "average" person has no business messing with the OS on their Phone
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except the many end up there from Google and don't even know that they're in the "Europe S2" section. i had no idea til just now.
simply saying some bolder warning might save a few people a very expensive phone. i found a couple others who'd made the same mistake - there are lots of NOOBS in the way of ROMS like myself who don't even know. your forum is HUGE, and there are MANY google results linking you. that's a LOT of NOOBS ...
a little warning would have saved our asses. T-Mobile saved mine, tho, so it's all ok.
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When you enter the world of pimping phones then the legwork to understand your device is down to user...
Coming from the days where not every kid with a gat "comedy value" had a smartphone I remember when the info was far less and smaller user base. "Yet have never flashed a wrong ROM or bricked a device"
If a user is prepared to flash there expensive smartphone without searching reading then its there fault.
After all there are disclaimers on pretty much all threads and XDA as general so as to stop anyone taking flak for user error.
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Odin flash a stock rom and your good to go
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stylez said:
When you enter the world of pimping phones then the legwork to understand your device is down to user...
Coming from the days where not every kid with a gat "comedy value" had a smartphone I remember when the info was far less and smaller user base. "Yet have never flashed a wrong ROM or bricked a device"
If a user is prepared to flash there expensive smartphone without searching reading then its there fault.
After all there are disclaimers on pretty much all threads and XDA as general so as to stop anyone taking flak for user error.
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Hey man hit up my email we need to chat. Yeah I swap it up. Now so I stay on topic as well lol. Please do your homework. We are not coming down on you to be mean. Stylez is right in what he says. when I started here there was like 2 roms for the device and the steps were far more complex. Stylez I am sure remembers lol I blew his pm up lol while doing my research with questions till I knew what I was doing. There was no flashing stock and returning the phone under warrenty which mind you breaks you warrenty. So please for the love of all things tech. Take the time and do the research.
I would just like to request that a sticky be made or a warning be added to the main stickies in the original and ported development forums to warn users that the i777 Galaxy S II 4G is not the i727 Galaxy SII Skyrocket. It seems really easy for myself as well as others to confuse the two.
I bricked my friends Skyrocket after flashing a ROM from the ported development thread as others have also done. Here is the post from the skyrocket forum.
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So, I made the stupidest mistake ever flashing a rom. My friend comes over and tells me his phone is slow and acts funny. He says that he wants a new Rom which is more user friendly (if there is one). So, I've already flashed a ROM on his phone before so it already had CWM recovery installed. I decide to try MIUI on the phone.
The first thing I do, which is what I always DID (and unless I get lazy will never do again) is open up google and type "XDA AT&T Galaxy S II", fairly harmless, I though but it turned out to be a fatal mistake. I search the forums, see buzz about ICS leaks and figure I'm in the right place then I see a section called ported development. I go there and see MIUIandroid for Galaxy SII right off the bat and download it without a second thought. This may seem obviously wrong to you all but being that I am a Nexus S 4G user, I am unaccustomed to the numeration of the model number, I thought i777 sounded correct.
I boot into recovery then proceed to back-up the phone, wipe data, cache, dalvik, and finally system like always then flash the rom. It flashed just fine then I returned to the recovery screen and tapped reboot system.
It never turned back on. No matter what I did to try to get a response (two buttons then plug in usb to get ODIN with and without the battery), nothing, no response. I didn't figure out why until I went to find JTAG services and found that the i777 was in fact the older model.
I plan to send it in to be JTAG'ed and buy my friend a Galaxy Nexus. We've been friends for years and he isn't mad at all. I have a job and can afford it (even though it sucks). I figure I owe it to him. However this could have all been avoided if I had paid attention.
In closing, I would first like to suggest some things so maybe some of you learn from my mistakes.
1. As experienced an XDA'er as you may think you are, even you can make (uber) rookie mistakes. Pay attention and work slowly, your wallet will thank you!
2. Never, EVER flash a rom for a friend! The worst things always tend to happen when you are using someone elses stuff! (no idea why, but they do!)
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I recognize many will say I didn't pay enough attention and that this is completely my fault. That's true, it is.
However, I think adding a warning wouldn't harm these forums and feel that it would be extremely helpful. Most people are not perfect and small reminders like that could help spare users from making a grave mistake.
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I would just like to request that a sticky be made or a warning be added to the main stickies in the original and ported development forums to warn users that the i777 Galaxy S II 4G is not the i727 Galaxy SII Skyrocket. It seems really easy for myself as well as others to confuse the two.
I bricked my friends Skyrocket after flashing a ROM from the ported development thread as others have also done. Here is the post from the skyrocket forum.
I recognize many will say I didn't pay enough attention and that this is completely my fault. That's true, it is.
However, I think adding a warning wouldn't harm these forums and feel that it would be extremely helpful. Most people are not perfect and small reminders like that could help spare users from making a grave mistake.
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Just curious... if you didn't take the time to see if you were in the right forum, would you have REALLY checked the sticky to see if it was the right forum also?
I guess if you say it would help.
I wonder if anyone has ever accidentally flashed a skyrocket rom on a i777?
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Uh, how about no. Users should know this.. we do NOT need a sticky for this..
I am fairly new to rooting so far I have explored app removal, have created full back ups, performed a restore, have flashed a few zips including the new 4.2 camera. Now I want to move on particularly with a view to increasing speed/smoothness etc for which I know that I will need to flash a ROM and or kernel. It is not the how that bothers me so much - lots of good advice here I have TWRP installed, have ODIN both desktop and mobile ODIN, but WHICH to try. I am currently on JB 4.1.2 stock rooted with an i9300. Through different apps I can find lots of compatible ROMS listed but almost no information about which ones are considered good and why. Clearly I want to start with one that is better, or at least as good as, my current stock but none of the listed ROMS say anything much about their features. There is a little sparse information about Kernels but not much for a person starting out to flash their first ROM. I have searched on here for any kind of comparison table, but if there is one I am either searching in the wrong forums or not wording the search well.
So I wondered if people could share their favorite ROM/Kernel and a little about what it can do or point me to a reliable online comparison.- obviously one with 4.2 would be good but even a 4.1.2 improvement would be helpful
no. read the rules
Give MiUI a go over on miui android.
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gbswales said:
searching in the wrong forums or not wording the search well.
So I wondered if people could share their favorite ROM/Kernel and a little about what it can do or point me to a reliable online comparison.- obviously one with 4.2 would be good but even a 4.1.2 improvement would be helpful
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
Please start by reading the faqs and guides first .
jje
Here is The Best ROM ever!! Must try!
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Thank you but I am puzzled
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I glance through forum rules in the same way that I read terms and conditions and instruction manuals - that is that I scan them for anything that may be important and refer to them occasionally if I find I am doing something wrong. I would strongly suspect that many people do not even do this much. So having encountered a problem of apparently doing something wrong I took the trouble (once I had found them) to read fully through the rules here http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81 . In all honesty I cant see how my post contravenes any rule in that, as a newbie, I am just asking for opinions and sources for what I need. I could have just googled but the last time I did that I nearly bricked my tablet, and was told that this was the place to come for help and advice. I did follow the rule to search the forums first but that didn't turn up anything useful
My instinct was to post this in the developer forum but, since this clearly states it is for experienced user/developer discussion only, I didn't.
I don't understand why it would be so wrong to have feature lists and experience comments for what is developed here. I did find some very good descriptions from Omega and for that reason will probably try one of these first but it would be nice to know how others stack up and whether, for example, there are any other 4.2 ROMs out there.
I do thank you for taking the time to read my request.
Clive
Two posts prior to yours is a link to the thread concerning why best Rom threads aren't allowed
i recommend playing with stock roms first before trying custom roms. get to know your phone first.
flash
root
debloat
apply mods
etc
etc.
I have found that now - though not in main rules!
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Two posts prior to yours is a link to the thread concerning why best Rom threads aren't allowed
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I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant. I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list - after all the main for rooting a phone (other than "because I can") is, I would think, because (a) you want more control (b) you want to get rid of bloatware (c) because you want features that your current ROM doesn't have but which could be available (d) because you want to overclock the processor - within sensible limits, or not - All of these in my experience amount to wanting a "cooler smarter device"
I do appreciate that this is a developers forum and I will in future try and pay more attention to rules here. Would it be wrong to ask if any of the experienced developers here know where else to go for some guidance about what newly issued ROMs contain, not necessarily rating them but just saying what is different to stock. I have in mind the sort of information posted by Omega in the forums here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful - It would be something I would be quite happy to subscribe to with a fee, with the income returned to the developers who contribute. It would be so useful to people like myself who do not have hours of time and (at least until I have gained more confidence) the nerve to keep switching ROMS
Each ROM has a changelog for each release
Just read it
thanks for that good advice
I have been reading more and can see that I can probably flash most of the things I want to my stock ROM
I actually prefer this because I do like Touch Wiz over all the other launchers I have tried
My only concern is that so far I haven't been able update a stock ROM without going through the rooting process again and re-making all the mods - should I look for stock roms that have been rooted - each time I re-root with ODIN I am back with CWM recovery rather than TWRP - I haven't read the benefits of one over the other but I know that on my phone I can't read the CWM commands on recovery screen so prefer TWRP
I am sure that people must have found ways to update to new stock versions without losing root so will keep on searching - time is the biggest enemy as I have been four hours on here already today!
Clive
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I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant.
Before the thread is locked .
But this is a developers forum not a fix your phone or make it cool forum .
Users are expected to either have a basic knowledge and if not to bother to read the FAQS and Guides .
I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list
All listed for each rom in the thread .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful -
That has been done in the past but as we still get multiple what's best rom posts it was dropped .
Its not nerve that is required its a matter of starting where all the experinced users and devs start by reading the basics .
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cynical but at least funny
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Here is The Best ROM ever!! Must try!
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As it gave me a laugh I have given you thanks though posted a comment on you tube too
time is the enemy
JJEgan said:
gbswales said:
I have to say I don't understand why, despite the explanation, because the nature of a forum is that members can answer the posts that they want to and ignore those they feel are irrelevant.
Before the thread is locked .
But this is a developers forum not a fix your phone or make it cool forum .
Users are expected to either have a basic knowledge and if not to bother to read the FAQS and Guides .
I think by comparison what I really mean is a feature list
All listed for each rom in the thread .
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663656 If each ROM creator had something similar and they were collated together in a sticky forum it would be really useful -
That has been done in the past but as we still get multiple what's best rom posts it was dropped .
Its not nerve that is required its a matter of starting where all the experinced users and devs start by reading the basics .
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Believe me I read about 20 posts before even rooting and spent three days building up the confidence to do it - even so my heat was in my mouth until it rebooted successfully. I think, as suggested by someone else , I will for now stick to modifying the things I want to change by flashing zips using Mobile Odin (I thought that was an app well worth paying for - really easy to use - I also like TWRP - I just hate the idea of having to re-do the root and most of these mods when stock 4.2 gets released. I have now found a few more detailed descriptions by going into the forum marked for developers only Omega's are particularly good. All these shop window type posts gathered into one place is all I think would really be needed - I just find it very difficult to search the forums because when I started searching on things like "ROM comparison" and "ROM features" I didn't see the post that has been pointed out since about why you don't do this. My foray into this has taken over four hours rather than 5-10 minutes
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gbswales said:
JJEgan said:
Believe me I read about 20 posts before even rooting and spent three days building up the confidence to do it - even so my heat was in my mouth until it rebooted successfully. I think, as suggested by someone else , I will for now stick to modifying the things I want to change by flashing zips using Mobile Odin (I thought that was an app well worth paying for - really easy to use - I also like TWRP - I just hate the idea of having to re-do the root and most of these mods when stock 4.2 gets released. I have now found a few more detailed descriptions by going into the forum marked for developers only Omega's are particularly good. All these shop window type posts gathered into one place is all I think would really be needed - I just find it very difficult to search the forums because when I started searching on things like "ROM comparison" and "ROM features" I didn't see the post that has been pointed out since about why you don't do this. My foray into this has taken over four hours rather than 5-10 minutes
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We all go through this, but you will get more confident.
The main thing to remember is if things go wrong, don't panic, walk away, put the kettle on, have a think about what might have gone wrong, reread instructions, check, check, check!
What you musn't do is randomly trying different things in a panic
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slaphead20 said:
gbswales said:
We all go through this, but you will get more confident.
The main thing to remember is if things go wrong, don't panic, walk away, put the kettle on, have a think about what might have gone wrong, reread instructions, check, check, check!
What you musn't do is randomly trying different things in a panic
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And to add a prelude to slappy's post...BACKUP! BACKUP! BACKUP! before doing anything to your phone every single time. So many arses have been saved because of this.
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Please read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1935514
Hi folks!
I want to buy a new SGS2, I'm coming from the Xperia arc Forums, and have some questions, cause Noob guides didn't really help me..!
So here we go:
1: On Sony devices theres a bootloader, and you can unlock it, but not every device can get unlocked, is it the same here?
2: What is the difference between "Original Android Development" and "Android Development"? The Arc Forums just have the 2nd one.
3: On Arc Forums you can flash kernels with a unlocked bootloader only, and flash firmwares with a program called "Flashtool" and Custom ROMs with CWM. My question: How can I flash firmwares to the SGS2? Is there such program too or what is it?
(I already found out how to root )
Well, that are all my questions for now! I hope you guys can help me!
Regards,
intel_c0re
Welcome to the S2 forums......
IMO the S2 (although not a cutting edge phone) is a nice phone.....
Samsung bootloaders are not locked....no ussue....
Root and cwm are usually contained in the same custom kernel.....some of which can be flashed from the stock recovery (search for PhilZ)
Other kernels (and firmwares) need to be flashed by a program called ODIN.....which I guess is similar to the program you mentioned......
ODIN seemed daunting at first...but if you do enough searching and reading (plenty of threads here) you won't go far wrong.
As for the difference between 'Android Development' and 'Original Android Development'......not entirely certain....there may have been a difference to begin with.....but what difference there was...seems to have been 'muddied' over time.......
Finally.....
I don't know what things were like over on the Sony forum, but here there's an unwritten but 'vigorously enforced' rule.....
Search, read, learn, understand then do.....
*some* folks here have a very short fuse when it comes to answering questions that "noobs" have created new threads for (without searching first).......remember the above rule; and you'll get a lot out of this forum.....
Good luck mate...
EDIT.....
If you buy the phone new, the FIRST thing to check is whether it's running ICS 4.0.4.
If it is, be very careful......
Search for emmc brickbug for details.....there's a 'stickyed' thread about it in one of the sections. Read it fully to understand the issue before doing ANYTHING to your phone.....
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intel_c0re said:
Hi folks!
I want to buy a new SGS2, I'm coming from the Xperia arc Forums, and have some questions, cause Noob guides didn't really help me..!
So here we go:
1: On Sony devices theres a bootloader, and you can unlock it, but not every device can get unlocked, is it the same here?
2: What is the difference between "Original Android Development" and "Android Development"? The Arc Forums just have the 2nd one.
3: On Arc Forums you can flash kernels with a unlocked bootloader only, and flash firmwares with a program called "Flashtool" and Custom ROMs with CWM. My question: How can I flash firmwares to the SGS2? Is there such program too or what is it?
(I already found out how to root )
Well, that are all my questions for now! I hope you guys can help me!
Regards,
intel_c0re
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You don't need to root. Just flash a custom recovery, then wipe data+cache in recovery, and flash a ROM. As simple as that. No extra steps required.
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keithross39 said:
Welcome to the S2 forums......
IMO the S2 (although not a cutting edge phone) is a nice phone.....
Samsung bootloaders are not locked....no ussue....
Root and cwm are usually contained in the same custom kernel.....some of which can be flashed from the stock recovery (search for PhilZ)
Other kernels (and firmwares) need to be flashed by a program called ODIN.....which I guess is similar to the program you mentioned......
ODIN seemed daunting at first...but if you do enough searching and reading (plenty of threads here) you won't go far wrong.
As for the difference between 'Android Development' and 'Original Android Development'......not entirely certain....there may have been a difference to begin with.....but what difference there was...seems to have been 'muddied' over time.......
Finally.....
I don't know what things were like over on the Sony forum, but here there's an unwritten but 'vigorously enforced' rule.....
Search, read, learn, understand then do.....
*some* folks here have a very short fuse when it comes to answering questions that "noobs" have created new threads for (without searching first).......remember the above rule; and you'll get a lot out of this forum.....
Good luck mate...
EDIT.....
If you buy the phone new, the FIRST thing to check is whether it's running ICS 4.0.4.
If it is, be very careful......
Search for emmc brickbug for details.....there's a 'stickyed' thread about it in one of the sections. Read it fully to understand the issue before doing ANYTHING to your phone.....
Sent from my rooted, de bloated, stock JB powered S2 via PhilZ kernel and XDA developers app
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Thank you very much! And what happens if the device is on JB or even GB?
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JB and GB are unaffected by brickbug. ....the only one to watch out for is ICS 4.0.4.......
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Lol this forum is a lot more vicious than the Sony ones.
Read up about backing up your efs folder and get Odin set up on your PC so you can revert back to it....same as you would with flash tool.
Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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You should go a little easy on the answering guy's(about the IQ 25 guy's I think most are newbies trying to increase post count.. Lol) , because as far as I am concerned google search produce's solutions for most problem (a little confusing yes, but anybody with a little patience can understand them), on that basis most questions asked here are "lazy" questions, but still most people are answering here because they want to, nobody is forcing anybody to do so after all, just some time ago you solved a guy's problem by suggesting him to use a Static IP, that solution can be easily found through Google, but still you choose to answer, people tend to be people and want everything to be easy, (why do you think a graphical interface is necessary nowadays) some are plain idiotic and will jump without thinking, I don't support spoonfeeding but giving a small description and suggesting to read is always a good answer.
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Yeah. ...it's better to point them in the right direction than to vicariously flame them and insult their intelligence level........
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MistahBungle said:
Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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Deleted, you're not worth it.
Thanks to the guys who helped me here! If I get problems I'll post here, I hope you can still help me then!
I'll purchase the phone on Saturday and start working on it. I'm not sure because I couldn't watch in the settings and I never had a phone of the Galaxy series, so, is this GB or ICS? tbh it looks a bit GB for me but what do you think? I've posted an attachment.
Thank's for your attention!
So much butthurt in this thread (Particularly the OP who's a lazy n00b & some other guy who's of no consequence).
MistahBungle said:
Yes, and some people (particularly the ones with an IQ below 25) have a habit of always spoonfeeding everyone even the most basic information that's been posted here thousands of times before, and almost always in the preceding few days. Which actually increases the prevalence of busted phones, I.E people who learn stuff for themselves tend not have that happen.
This is one of the reasons why many (more & more these days) people here get so 'short', as much as n00bs asking the most dopey questions time & again and being too lazy to search through some threads.
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Hey Mistah, i do get ur point for now 'Search before posting', well thats good.but things like the highlighted one doesn't do good to ur stature,so do please edit the post of urs for now ma8
Something tells me that *somebody* needs to moderate their tone......glad I'm not the only one to notice this........
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keithross39 said:
Something tells me that *somebody* needs to moderate their tone......glad I'm not the only one to notice this........
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Good, I removed that part, so what's with the phone? Can you see the firmware by the lockscreen?
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Settings>>about device>>android version. ......
That'll tell you for certain......
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keithross39 said:
Settings>>about device>>android version. ......
That'll tell you for certain......
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^^^^^ if only there were people like this guy when I first started on the s2!!! Luckily there are a few others who will also help out but things get easier over time. As for the lock screen, looks like GB but always worth checking in settings to be 100% custom themes can be found on play store and finally realise how many there are since my 3 year old has now taken over the s2 as a toy and changes everything daily
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keithross39 said:
Settings>>about device>>android version. ......
That'll tell you for certain......
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I told that I can only watch the lock screen, but I found out that it's GB already.
So..
I think this is done for now! I'll give news here about the phone then.
Thank you!
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So much butthurt in this thread (Particularly the OP who's a lazy n00b & some other guy who's of no consequence).
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Friend, you should learn to show some respect, as the saying goes "give respect and get respect". Everybody was a noob once, I respect you, since I myself have learned a lot from you directly and in-directly, but showing disrespect to noobs as well as people who answer's is wrong, which as Sun90 said is bad for your stature, "to err is human" everybody makes mistakes nobody can be perfect all the time, if you find somebody is wrong or has made a mistake, politely correct them, who know's maybe the other party could be a genius who made a mistake, who are we to insult them? I really do hope you take this message the right way, as I mean no offence to you.
Keith, buddy I really appreciate what you are doing here, because pointing people in the right direction is always right. :good:
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I just purchased the SGS2, but how can I root JB 4.1.2 (XWLSD)?
Thanks!
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