Can you brick the secure element of Google Wallet on the S3? - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

I saw some reports that on the galaxy Nexus you could brick the secure element of Google wallet.
The way around this was to reset your Google wallet before doing a ROM flash.
Is this still a problem on the galaxy S3?
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IBNobody said:
I saw some reports that on the galaxy Nexus you could brick the secure element of Google wallet.
The way around this was to reset your Google wallet before doing a ROM flash.
Is this still a problem on the galaxy S3?
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Yes. Be careful when wiping data.
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elfhater said:
Yes. Be careful when wiping data.
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I haven't used Google Wallet yet but I have flashed a custom Rom. What should I do if I don't want to brick the secure element?
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ergibson83 said:
I haven't used Google Wallet yet but I have flashed a custom Rom. What should I do if I don't want to brick the secure element?
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Reset Google Wallet from the settings in the app any time before you wipe data. As long as you do that you should be fine.
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ergibson83 said:
I haven't used Google Wallet yet but I have flashed a custom Rom. What should I do if I don't want to brick the secure element?
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Now that you're on a custom ROM + not using Wallet, you're free to continue making changes to your device without any worries of bricking the secure element.......however, once your wallet is activated, you will have to reset it prior to performing a hard reset to your firmware / flash a new ROM or you run the risk of borking the nfc secure element. Once you're done with your firmware changes re-activate your wallet, it'll work just fine.
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sonarchist said:
Now that you're on a custom ROM + not using Wallet, you're free to continue making changes to your device without any worries of bricking the secure element.......however, once your wallet is activated, you will have to reset it prior to performing a hard reset to your firmware / flash a new ROM or you run the risk of borking the nfc secure element. Once you're done with your firmware changes re-activate your wallet, it'll work just fine.
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Thank you. So basically, until you actually need/want to use Google Wallet, keeping it reset is the best practice.

IBNobody said:
Thank you. So basically, until you actually need/want to use Google Wallet, keeping it reset is the best practice.
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Right, that's what I did a few times and so far I have no problems.
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Is there any way to test if you have bricked this portion of your phone? When I first attempted to use Wallet (day phone arrived) it gave me an error about Sprint not being about to use it and it would reclose w/o me being able to do anything.
After rooting the phone, GW loaded right up, but I get the Unsupported Device error along the top complaining about the phone being rooted. My GW "activated" and dropped $10 into my account, but how do I know if it actually works?

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Google wallet

Mine just started working. My build.prop file is in its original state. Anyone else?
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Not me
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Not mine as well
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Still getting the not supported error.
Same here with the error...
DrZune said:
Still getting the not supported error.
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Mine is getting the same. Went from stock ROM to Team Nocturnal ROM. No change even after uninstalling and reinstalling. Lucky you to get yours working. After all this, just give me a $10 Amazon Gift Card and end this.
Can I root
OK I have a question. I just got the EVO LTE and want to root it. But I keep seeing that I need to clear the data from my Google Wallet or it will be forever bricked. But of course I am getting an error saying its not supported buy my country (WTF). I cleared the data in the app settings but wonder is it safe to root if I dont do it thru the app. I want to root but dont too loose wallet if I do. Any suggestions or should I just wait till Google figures out what to do with wallet.
Thanks for any advice
Adam1422 said:
Mine just started working. My build.prop file is in its original state. Anyone else?
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But your Sig shows htc_jewel so doesnt that mean you changed your build prop?
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Adam1422 said:
Mine just started working. My build.prop file is in its original state. Anyone else?
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Nope, not mine either
butterbuns said:
But your Sig shows htc_jewel so doesnt that mean you changed your build prop?
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No
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Still getting error
Still getting error...
No go...
Check Me Out On The Google Play Store!!!
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smells of a troll post. maybe google only wanted it to work for you?
Mine still broke, at least google finally said something about the situation. Was pissing me off that no one was talking Sprint, HTC or google for a while. Just setup a friend with a GSIII on Friday and Google Wallet seemed to be ok no errors. Wonder how long it will take for fix.
http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-evo-4g-lte-google-wallet-software-fix-96935/
not safe to root
killwrath, from what I read you should not root, you MUST clear your data from within the app itself (restore to factory). clearing you data will not help and you'll brick your secure element..
kaos420 said:
smells of a troll post. maybe google only wanted it to work for you?
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Agreed
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scottspa74 said:
No
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Get out of here you worthless troll
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killwrath said:
OK I have a question. I just got the EVO LTE and want to root it. But I keep seeing that I need to clear the data from my Google Wallet or it will be forever bricked. But of course I am getting an error saying its not supported buy my country (WTF). I cleared the data in the app settings but wonder is it safe to root if I dont do it thru the app. I want to root but dont too loose wallet if I do. Any suggestions or should I just wait till Google figures out what to do with wallet.
Thanks for any advice
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It's safe to root using Zedomax(?)'s method only. I've done it, been in your same spot.
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Closed...Even if not a troll post, there are countless Wallet threads that this kind of information could be posted in, instead of creating a new thread.

Anyone else refraining from flashing ROMsof Wallet?

I really want to flash a few roms. I didn't get to try out but one Rom before the unsupported message became active. I feel kinda stuck until google changes something.
I'm sure others have refrained from flashing too to keep their secure element working, yea?
Wish I had cleared out my google information from wallet before this happened back around the 15th of the month wasn't it?
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Are you rooted? Because if you are, just do the google wallet fix to reset wallet, and you should be okay with flashing other ROMs.
Doesn't work. They blocked the fix.
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According to android police wallet is fixed
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Lost s3 but please help me

Guys I have lost my galaxy s3.But however when I sign in to google play it still shows s3 as one of my devices.Does this mean thief is using my google account???...How can I track it???...Please help...
You need to have avast installed rooted on your phone in order to be able to track it. I'm sorry.
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Change your password
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Have you removed your lost phone from Google Play if not and a bank card is tied to it then you may lose money .
jje
JJEgan said:
Have you removed your lost phone from Google Play if not and a bank card is tied to it then you may lose money .
jje
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How is that possible? AFAIK, you can only hide it.
To the OP - try installing Lookout Plan B
Try Plan B
emerald123 said:
Guys I have lost my galaxy s3.But however when I sign in to google play it still shows s3 as one of my devices.Does this mean thief is using my google account???...How can I track it???...Please help...
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You can try Plan B, i recoverd a friends phone with it.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lookout.labs.planb
http://v2.samsungdive.com/account/m/index.do
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Google Wallet Working on any ROM?

So I know obviously Wallet isn't working for the stock ROM, but I was wondering if there was any ROM for the DNA that it worked for, or is this a much deeper problem than that?
Thanks for your time!
My friend, there is a Q&A section for a reason.
gevis said:
So I know obviously Wallet isn't working for the stock ROM, but I was wondering if there was any ROM for the DNA that it worked for, or is this a much deeper problem than that?
Thanks for your time!
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The problem appears to be much deaper. Google wallet needs a secure element,(and it appears this phone doesn't have necessary component(s). Also it has been reported the nfc isn't compatible. Probably never happen for this phone unless Google makes a drastic change in approach. (probably won't happen).
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Thank you very much!
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bigpapax said:
The problem appears to be much deaper. Google wallet needs a secure element,(and it appears this phone doesn't have necessary component(s). Also it has been reported the nfc isn't compatible. Probably never happen for this phone unless Google makes a drastic change in approach. (probably won't happen).
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ISIS supposedly has access to secure element and works on the DNA, so I have heard.
StreetStrip01 said:
ISIS supposedly has access to secure element and works on the DNA, so I have heard.
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I'm missing my Google wallet too (since I switched from the Galaxy Nexus), so I've done a bit of research.
As near as I can tell, ISIS could work on this phone, by way of a sim card with the secure element built in. The NFC in the DNA is programmed by HTC to look for a secure element on the sim card. If you manage to get a sim card from Verizon w/ the secure element, ISIS has a key to unlock the secure element on a SIM, but Google Wallet doesn't.
I would be surprised if the phone didn't also have a secure element, but unfortunately the o/s as released from HTC is programmed to look for a secure element on the SIM card instead.
I booted up the cm10, installed the modified Google Wallet that other users (like the s3) have been using, however a logcat reveals that Wallet is still unable to find a secure element
I'd like to get a hold of one of these nfc Sims. I am going to call tomorrow
jasoraso said:
I'm missing my Google wallet too (since I switched from the Galaxy Nexus), so I've done a bit of research.
As near as I can tell, ISIS could work on this phone, by way of a sim card with the secure element built in. The NFC in the DNA is programmed by HTC to look for a secure element on the sim card. If you manage to get a sim card from Verizon w/ the secure element, ISIS has a key to unlock the secure element on a SIM, but Google Wallet doesn't.
I would be surprised if the phone didn't also have a secure element, but unfortunately the o/s as released from HTC is programmed to look for a secure element on the SIM card instead.
I booted up the cm10, installed the modified Google Wallet that other users (like the s3) have been using, however a logcat reveals that Wallet is still unable to find a secure element
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This is all starting to make more sense. A good friend (and android developer) said he can't find a secure element on this phone, and doesn't have time to look any further. If it were built into a SIM then that part of the puzzle would be solved, but then making Google wallet work would still be a chore, but hopefully not impossible.
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Got mine in today. Google wallet still won't work.....
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andrewlyle said:
Got mine in today. Google wallet still won't work.....
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You might try comparing the nfcaccess.xml from the /etc directory. The DNA comes with a nfcaccess.xml file that has key for isis. The s3 hack replaces the nfcaccess.xml file with a sprint nfcaccess.xml that has a key for wallet instead of ISIS. You might want to try replacing the original DNA nfcaccess.xml file with one from a sprint device. Or possibly putting both keys into a file.
Ahhh got so close.......
Stuck on this screen now and then force closes
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andrewlyle said:
Ahhh got so close.......
View attachment 1713686 Stuck on this screen now and then force closes
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I got to this point last night also. It installs and opens fine but hangs because it can't find the secure element. I edited the nfcee_access.xml as jasoraso suggested and copied the signature for wallet from my Nexus. I have a few other ideas that I'm going to try for now but most likely it will need the nfc sim to initialize.
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I wish I could find the Isis app somewhere....
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andrewlyle said:
I wish I could find the Isis app somewhere....
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Just Google it, I found it in about 5 minutes.
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Seriously? I tried but never found it. Been doing it all at work so guess I probably just overlooked it.
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You found the apk online? I've been looking still and no luck
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andrewlyle said:
You found the apk online? I've been looking still and no luck
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This might help:
http://bit.ly/WEPqOs
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1939165&page=2
Ferradinho said:
This might help:
http://bit.ly/WEPqOs
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Yeah, that's where I found it.
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Argumentation said:
Yeah, that's where I found it.
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But it's not usable with the DNA, right? Has to have the proper sim card?
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You can get the needed SIM card from customer service through verizon. I had to find the Verizon version of this app and then installed it but it says it can't run because my phone is rooted
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Help with NFC after unroot

Hi all,
I recently rooted and loaded a deodexed stock rom, googke wallet wws working great. I'm in an isis mobile wallet area and got an email that they just loaded $10 on my card. Because Isis does not work when the phone is rooted I decided to go back to a stock rom on my device.
I read a couple guidee on how to unroot and I believe that I am rooted and wipe the phone back to complete stock.
I flashed with odin and the isis app is loading with no errors. When I try to pay nothing happens when I tap the device. Tried this at 2 different 7-11 gas stations where it has previously worked.
I did some googling and saw some posts saying if you don't reset the google wallet it will brick the secure element.
So my question is if I have bricked it, should I be getting an error message?
One oddity I have noticed is that if I try to reboot into recovery (power, up arrow, and center key) it will say loading recovery and then nothing happens, just turns off. When I turn the phone on it doesnt say custom with and unlocked symbol which leads me to believe there is no custom bootloader.
Aby suggestions would be great thanks
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This is the guide I used
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301259
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I had Isis on my note 2 and had the same issue. Nothing worked at the terminals until I received the physical Isis reloadable card in the mail and activated it. Then it started being recognized at terminals.
I doubt it's the secure element because isis uses the SE on the sim, not the phone.
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wow...just looked at isis for the first time. So they are STILL in a limited pilot?
brizey said:
wow...just looked at isis for the first time. So they are STILL in a limited pilot?
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Yes but you can order the sim through customer care and use it anywhere pay pass pay wave are available.
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So I was able to fix with a 2nd wipe. I'll stick with bein unrooted until isis gets patched or the deals suck. Right now public transit is free with isis in salt lake. #$60 saved
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