what's the problem if flash counter goes up? - Galaxy S III Q&A, (US Carriers)

Is there like a max limit of numbers the flash counter can go upto? I see people talking about this. I'm coming from a motorola Atrix, and we never had such a thing, so I want to make sure before I root.
I want to use the toolkit to do it easily without ODIN and all so I guess my flash counter will go up one. what disadvantages does this have?
Will something like triangle away from the market reset the flash counter from our phones?
Thanks!

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Danger Danger Q&a forum for these questions.... just a friendly warning!
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I usually ask 'dev' related questions like that over here because some people don't root or anything there.
but I guess I can try there

As far as I know there is no set limit so you can flash all you want however if you send your phone in for warranty Samsung would know it was rooted or had custom rom flashed and possibly not honor the warranty. With the flash counter they would be able to tell how many times you flashed a custom os. Other then that your fine.
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razorseal said:
I usually ask 'dev' related questions like that over here because some people don't root or anything there.
but I guess I can try there
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Thats great and all, but under no circumstances should a question thread be started in the dev section. It clutters the forum.
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The only problem u got is when u go for warranty exchange att or sammy might look at ur binary count and then they might avoid ur warranty. Othere then thats nothing wrong you cant tell until u goto dload mode. Plus please follow rules & post in correct section. Thank you.
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That's why they make Square trade..

razorseal said:
Is there like a max limit of numbers the flash counter can go upto? I see people talking about this. I'm coming from a motorola Atrix, and we never had such a thing, so I want to make sure before I root.
I want to use the toolkit to do it easily without ODIN and all so I guess my flash counter will go up one. what disadvantages does this have?
Will something like triangle away from the market reset the flash counter from our phones?
Thanks!
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[Q] Hidden counter that counts the resetting of the firmware-reset counter?

Hi.
It is known that you can use an USB Jig to get into download mode and reset the counter for custom-rom flashing which is used to keep track whether we did something that voids the warranty.
In the below thread post I found mention that there might be another counter that counts the number of times this counter has been reset:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14284729&postcount=13
Does such a counter really exist?
If so, might Samsung use it to deny warranty?
If it exists, is there a way to also reset that counter?
Thanx in advance!
Does such a counter really exist?
Possible
If so, might Samsung use it to deny warranty?
Maybe
If it exists, is there a way to also reset that counter?
No
Work in progress .
jje
why not ask on that thread then?
I now did here. Also sent a message to Chainfire..
Lets hope on some update...
Where does this rumor come from about such a counter?
If it exists, the USB JIG may not help with warranty at all...
Noone interested in this?
Anyone have an idea how the changes are on such a second counter and if Samsung might use it to deny warranty?
I already got an USB Jig but still worried to use it..
Also, when rooting - can I make up a backup of my kernal to restore it after rooting so the Warning triangle goes away (if so, how?) or are there zip files to write with CWM of the stock KE7 kernel already?
Hironimo said:
Noone interested in this?
Also, when rooting - can I make up a backup of my kernal to restore it after rooting so the Warning triangle goes away (if so, how?) or are there zip files to write with CWM of the stock KE7 kernel already?
Read the post it has it all covered .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
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I searched... Had to look more closely since in the first few pages nothing about flashing original kernal was mentioned...
I finally found a thread that explains this clearer and has original kernels:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
It would still be nice to find out if the mentioned second counter exists or not...
It was either chainfire or supercurio (cant remember which) who said there was an internal counter. Not might be, was. I do remember their post being on using a jig to reset the visible counter in one of the threads. I was not able to pull it on a search either.
We won't really know if samsung will look at this hidden counter that has yet to be found....
From what I know there is believed to be a hidden counter based on some code that seems to point to it, however the counter itself has not been found hence why we have no way yet to reset it.
Samsung may choose to ignore this when warranties are considered, for all we know they might ignore the ODIN counter too, but its unlikely.
Anybody sent a SGS2 back to Samsung after a reset with an USB JIG?
Just worried about my warranty.
+1 There are several of us in the AT&T SGSII forums that are wondering the exact same thing.
LittleSamson said:
Anybody sent a SGS2 back to Samsung after a reset with an USB JIG?
Just worried about my warranty.
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I have and there were no issues.
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Oh for crying out loud! THERE IS NO HIDDEN COUNTER!
Intratech said:
Oh for crying out loud! THERE IS NO HIDDEN COUNTER!
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It was never proven to exist, but it was referenced in code. There is a valid reason to be cautious with a $600 device.
Shafty said:
I have and there were no issues.
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Thanks man! Let the rooting commence
I've heard there's a secret band on ninjas that attack you at night once your flash count reaches 500.
Rumour is that they dispose of you without a trace so there is no evidence that they actually exist at all.
Can anyone tell me if they do exist.
I once saw those ninjas in person, but I was able to run away.
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chiefroastbeef said:
I once saw those ninjas in person, but I was able to run away.
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That sir, is a lie
chiefroastbeef said:
I once saw those ninjas in person, but I was able to run away.
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cobhc said:
That sir, is a lie
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No it's not i seen him running away from them....that man can run !!
Question: If the phone were to sudenly accidently go into the microwave for a split second after the magnatron warms up of course with the li.ion battery removed, it wouldnt matter if the phone was rooted or not it doesnt work and its hardware related, problem solved. Unless the have a microwave counter
As my hidden rom count was at 498 I followed the ninjas chasing the poster above and when no one was looking disposed of them.
For legal reasons I canty give you any more details, however if they should rise from the dead and come after you when your hidden rom count hits 500 then the safety phrase is 'CurioCT says this is all bull****' : D
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dont apply the reset binary count zip FOREWARNING !!

Its best for those debating on resetoing the download mode binary count to 0" to forget it unless you want to junk your phone in 5 seconds .
i did this on my note and hardbricked it instantly.. completely wiped the bootloader.
thankfully i got a waranted replac
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You must have done something wrong i have used it many times
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lojak29 said:
Its best for those debating on resetoing the download mode binary count to 0" to forget it unless you want to junk your phone in 5 seconds .
i did this on my note and hardbricked it instantly.. completely wiped the bootloader.
thankfully i got a waranted replac
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You did it wrong.
Dude, I feel your pain, but how many threads do you need for this? Lots of us have used this method to success, you clearly did something wrong or your phone is defective.
These kind of thread should be closed immidiately. You should prove before you say these things. Hundreds of ppl did this successfully even some guys in Skyrocket forum use this.
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Definitely bricked due to user error. Works fine on my AT&T i717.
Did you not read the disclaimer in the thread that it might potentially brick your phone?
You knew what you were getting yourself into, unless you flashed without reading a damn thing.
Atleast you got a new phone. I reset my counter just fine. Something was done incorrectly on your part buddy.
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You've been told to not open up so many threads. Refer to this one, do not open another one on the subject!

root?

Is there a simple method to root galaxy S3?
what does no tripping flash counter mean? why are images required? will that reset phone to stock again?
nekrosoft13 said:
Is there a simple method to root galaxy S3?
what does no tripping flash counter mean? why are images required? will that reset phone to stock again?
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Pretty much any method is fairly streamline now. There's a root toolkit that does all the work for you, all you have to do is enter in a number that relates to the command when you run it. Be certain you are using the proper root method for your carrier and follow all instructions carefully.
Tripping the flash counter happens when you flash your recovery via odin. It triggers the built in counter in download mode to show that you have "tampered" with the device, and therefor can be refused warranty work. To avoid this, use either ADB through command line, or terminal emulator.
I usually don't post this..... but.....
DUDE READ
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Thank you. Will look for root toolkit.
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jjlean said:
I usually don't post this..... but.....
DUDE READ
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There is to much "chaos" on forum to many different methods, to many go here get this, go there for that etc....
Thats why i appreciate post above yours so guidance helps a lot especialy when your rooting your new device first time.
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nekrosoft13 said:
There is to much "chaos" on forum to many different methods, to many go here get this, go there for that etc....
Thats why i appreciate post above yours so guidance helps a lot especialy when your rooting your new device first time.
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I agree that there is a lot of posts all over the place but to all fairness, there is posts in this same section http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722344 that shows you exactly what to do to root.
I agree that you NEED TO READ. If you aren't willing to do the research you're going to have an expensive brick instead of an amazing phone running Jelly Bean roms or whatever you choose.
Also, don't just rely on one thread. Read multiple so you see opinions and suggestions.
nekrosoft13 said:
Is there a simple method to root galaxy S3?
what does no tripping flash counter mean? why are images required? will that reset phone to stock again?
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Don't think it matters if you trip the flash counter any more there's an app to get rid of it Triangle Away. Also be careful many people have Lost there Imei# and now have a very expensive mp3 player. Might be a good idea to wait until they figure out how to back up imei first.
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nekrosoft13 said:
There is to much "chaos" on forum to many different methods, to many go here get this, go there for that etc....
Thats why i appreciate post above yours so guidance helps a lot especialy when your rooting your new device first time.
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I literally got my phone, read here for 30 min and had a rooted phone in 45 after the phone arrived. Bottom line is u didn't read. Don't give me that shot that there are so many threads. Check the stickies. It's right there man. Sorry to be a ****, but I can't stand lazy people.
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I think it's funny how quick everyone is to tell people to read - When there are likely many threads that you've started that a google search could've solved in 5 minutes. He had plenty of other questions that had nothing to do with how to root his device. Yes reading can help solve most of his issues, but when you have the possibility of turning a 600$ phone completely worthless, it doesn't hurt to ask questions.
Really, get over yourselves.
Good call I have spent probably a week reading not only this forum but others as well and find numerous conflicting methods for rooting. There's nothing wrong with asking that's why there's a questions forum to begin with.:thumbup:
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Broadley1 said:
Good call I have spent probably a week reading not only this forum but others as well and find numerous conflicting methods for rooting. There's nothing wrong with asking that's why there's a questions forum to begin with.:thumbup:
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I bet you upgraded from iphone(like me). Coming to your question, it depends on the model you are on. Check this galaxys3root dot com . Max got videos for rooting all models of S3. They are pretty much simple. happy rooting!!!
Broadley1 said:
Good call I have spent probably a week reading not only this forum but others as well and find numerous conflicting methods for rooting. There's nothing wrong with asking that's why there's a questions forum to begin with.:thumbup:
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excactly thats why its called discussion board not reading board.
id_twin said:
Pretty much any method is fairly streamline now. There's a root toolkit that does all the work for you, all you have to do is enter in a number that relates to the command when you run it. Be certain you are using the proper root method for your carrier and follow all instructions carefully.
Tripping the flash counter happens when you flash your recovery via odin. It triggers the built in counter in download mode to show that you have "tampered" with the device, and therefor can be refused warranty work. To avoid this, use either ADB through command line, or terminal emulator.
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roottoolkit will trip your counter.
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nekrosoft13 said:
Is there a simple method to root galaxy S3?
what does no tripping flash counter mean? why are images required? will that reset phone to stock again?
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It is pretty straight forward. Make sure you have the drivers installed before rooting. In short, follow the instructions to the point. If you are worried about tripping your flash counter, there is a specific root method you follow. If you do not care, then you can use the tool kit. If you look through the posts in the development section, you will easily find it. PM me if you need help.
When I plug my phone into computer it finds my device drivers. Will that work or do I have to download them from the link provided?
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That will work. No need to download them
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jjlean said:
I usually don't post this..... but.....
DUDE READ
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Or at least search first... Lol
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id_twin said:
I think it's funny how quick everyone is to tell people to read - When there are likely many threads that you've started that a google search could've solved in 5 minutes. He had plenty of other questions that had nothing to do with how to root his device. Yes reading can help solve most of his issues, but when you have the possibility of turning a 600$ phone completely worthless, it doesn't hurt to ask questions.
Really, get over yourselves.
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well said

[Q] (Help) Phone Dead

I have an i777 that was recently replaced by another phone, but when I tried to turn the i777 back on nothing seems to start.
It was running the Super Nexus ROM.
If I plug the phone into my computer I can get into ODIN, but cannot otherwise get the phone to respond to any input.
I had thought I was going to have to return the phone to Samsung, so I used ODIN to flash the stock binary, but I still have the triangle issue...
Any ideas on how this can be fixed? I tried searching the forums, but couldn't find anything that fit this case.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
-Justin
You need to read the stickies in the development section. This will prevent your questions from getting flamed. This question is covered in the sticky linked below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301682
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Sorry, I was more asking if there was a way to get the phone to work again without sending it back in. I can reset the counter if need be, but would rather just get the phone working again and not have to deal with samsung.
Red_81 said:
You need to read the stickies in the development section. This will prevent your questions from getting flamed. This question is covered in the sticky linked below.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1301682
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I see you already flashed it back to stock. I would recommend doing that again to see if that fixes your issue. Otherwise, remove the triangle and attempt a warranty repair.
Make sure you are following the instructions in the sticky for a proper return to stock.
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Please tell me you factory reset right?
122ninjas said:
Please tell me you factory reset right?
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Just not on the ICS stock kernel!
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Bad flash during root, how can I fix it...?

I just got an ATT SIII and I attempted to root it with Odin. The progress bar got to about 25% then failed, now I can't boot my phone into the OS. I followed every guide I could find to fix this but every flash fails at ~25%. I can get into download mode, so I should be able to correct this, right? What should I be doing?
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Ok, I found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727443
I followed the steps, Odin passed, and when I boot I see the Galaxy S III splash screen, then the screen goes blank and the led stays solid blue. I can still get to download mode.
First of all get to the AT&T s3 forum this is for the i9300 only flashing anything here will brick your phone.
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isn't it obvious that questions go in the Q&A forum?
Glebun said:
isn't it obvious that questions go in the Q&A forum?
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For God's sake shut up and just report it for moving
Glebun said:
isn't it obvious that questions go in the Q&A forum?
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Isn't it obvious your a wannabe mod? Just apply to be one if its this bad.
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delsus said:
Isn't it obvious your a wannabe mod? Just apply to be one if its this bad.
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"you're" would be the correct grammar
nah man, I certainly don't want to be a mod. I am just surprised by people's thinking. Like "hey, here's the Q&A help and troubleshooting forum, should ask ask a question there? naah, imma just post in general". It's not even funny.
And I am perfectly fine if you don't like my posts, I don't care about that.
@OP: definitely it is (as mentioned before) Q&A thread, first.
Secondly, I would like to pass my personal congratulations to you, as you tried to flash the firmware form another phone and you have confirmed that it would brick it.
Last but not least: be careful and do not apply your way of life while refuelling your car, as diesel into petrol or vice versa would have more severe consequences.

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