I just spoke to sprint costumer service and they did infact told me that htc evo 3d is not getting ics. I also asked if we would be able to get an erly upgrade becouse of this and they said no. They also told me that if you get a new htc evo 4g lte or samsung galaxy s3 insurance will increase to 11 dollars and 99 cents a month. Deductable also increases to 200 dollars for this phones. By the way i got s-off 1.50 using the wire trick very easy i just thoght you should know.
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I just spoke to sprint costumer service and they did infact told me that htc evo 3d is not getting ics. I also asked if we would be able to get an erly upgrade becouse of this and they said no. They also told me that if you get a new htc evo 4g lte or samsung galaxy s3 insurance will increase to 11 dollars and 99 cents a month. Deductable also increases to 200 dollars for this phones. By the way i got s-off 1.50 using the wire trick very easy i just thoght you should know.
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i'll believe it ... when .. I see it?
thanks for the warning. but what sprint customer service knows changes every time u talk to someone at sprint.
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I just spoke to sprint costumer service and they did infact told me that htc evo 3d is not getting ics. I also asked if we would be able to get an erly upgrade becouse of this and they said no. They also told me that if you get a new htc evo 4g lte or samsung galaxy s3 insurance will increase to 11 dollars and 99 cents a month. Deductable also increases to 200 dollars for this phones. By the way i got s-off 1.50 using the wire trick very easy i just thoght you should know.
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Hey look another crap post about ics
Every thing you just said is junk. The deductable won't double the phone is the same price.
Also the 3D is definitely getting ics.
Also no Sprint rep really knows much about the updates ever
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In before the lock. This guy must've talked with a rookie.
What did the soup Nazis used to say on Seinfeld:
"NO SOUP FOR YOU"
Haha. I think if I were a Sprint customer service rep, it would be fun to mess with people calling up all the time asking when they were going to get the upgrade.
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Hey look another crap post about ics
Every thing you just said is junk. The deductable won't double the phone is the same price.
Also the 3D is definitely getting ics.
Also no Sprint rep really knows much about the updates ever
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Hey man, a lil hostile there eh?
1) how do you know for certain Sprint will release ICS for the EVO 3D? Do you have a contact in Sprint? If so, pic or your lying out your ass.
2) I like how you shot down his notion that the price will increase. When has prices in this economy ever decreased or stayed the same (especially in the telecom business!). I feel you just want to start beef with OP.
3) Now lets see...this is a forum about phones, and specifically in this section we are talking about general EVO 3D subjects. Since our phone is indeed able to run ICS, what's the problem about talking about the official update in the forum? Its not like this subject is way off topic, its regarding a much anticipated update for our phones. Stop being a Negative Nancy, get off your high horse, and say something positive.
I may have not been around during the Hero days but I was around during the OG EVO incarnation (I still remember toastcfh's God Mode). I feel XDA been getting more hostile by the day and its sad to see such a good community get tainted by negative nancys.
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Hey man, a lil hostile there eh?
1) how do you know for certain Sprint will release ICS for the EVO 3D? Do you have a contact in Sprint? If so, pic or your lying out your ass.
2) I like how you shot down his notion that the price will increase. When has prices in this economy ever decreased or stayed the same (especially in the telecom business!). I feel you just want to start beef with OP.
3) Now lets see...this is a forum about phones, and specifically in this section we are talking about general EVO 3D subjects. Since our phone is indeed able to run ICS, what's the problem about talking about the official update in the forum? Its not like this subject is way off topic, its regarding a much anticipated update for our phones. Stop being a Negative Nancy, get off your high horse, and say something positive.
I may have not been around during the Hero days but I was around during the OG EVO incarnation (I still remember toastcfh's God Mode). I feel XDA been getting more hostile by the day and its sad to see such a good community get tainted by negative nancys.
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These posts are old and just misguide people.
And no I have no inside source. But wanna bet me ics won't make it to the 3D?
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Guys if you disagree with a post just ignore it. Flaming back only encourages useless posts like these and I guarantee you the mods have better threads to moderate then another ICS update thread full of crap.
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Maybe it feels hostile because of the redundant **** that keeps getting posted. Or how about the continuous negative feedback that people post that the EVO 3D isn't getting this, or it can't do that, or that this new phone is better.
I know I get irritated when I constantly see posts like that.
Not saying yours is, but that's the feeling I've been getting when I sit down and try to catch up on my forum when I'm finally off work.
Personally, I'd rather see threads that talk about what my phone can do, not what it can't. Don't know about others, but I have this phone for another year. Not trying to constantly read about my phone's deficiencies.
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Hey man, a lil hostile there eh?
1) how do you know for certain Sprint will release ICS for the EVO 3D? Do you have a contact in Sprint? If so, pic or your lying out your ass.
2) I like how you shot down his notion that the price will increase. When has prices in this economy ever decreased or stayed the same (especially in the telecom business!). I feel you just want to start beef with OP.
3) Now lets see...this is a forum about phones, and specifically in this section we are talking about general EVO 3D subjects. Since our phone is indeed able to run ICS, what's the problem about talking about the official update in the forum? Its not like this subject is way off topic, its regarding a much anticipated update for our phones. Stop being a Negative Nancy, get off your high horse, and say something positive.
I may have not been around during the Hero days but I was around during the OG EVO incarnation (I still remember toastcfh's God Mode). I feel XDA been getting more hostile by the day and its sad to see such a good community get tainted by negative nancys.
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First of all, the only definitive answer to this is that a person who is higher up in the food chain (Sprint Executive John Tudhope VP of Product David Owens) did slip out that it would be coming in mid-June. This was on Engadget. Granted, it's still not here, but this could've been misinterpreted by him to mean mid-July. The fact is, Sprint stands to lose A LOT if they don't release this update. Why it's taking so long, no one really knows.
Second, you're right in the fact that the increase is imminent. They even state when you buy the phone, and you must agree to it, that the insurance and deductible do go up for the phone.
Third, while this may be the place to talk about it, creating ANOTHER thread about a date where there still isn't ICS for the EVO 3D isn't exactly the way to go about it. I understand the frustration from many people about cluttered forums. This probably isn't a necessary thread. This should have, instead, been posted HERE.
I mean look at the title and its enough. No ics for evo and a date
Like he's Sprints ceo announcing it? Every one is aware that no one has any real clue when we're getting it. But it's about ninety percent sure we are.
Kthxbye another thread on the subject is never needed again, but we'll have three within the hour.
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First of all, the only definitive answer to this is that a person who is higher up in the food chain (Sprint Executive John Tudhope) did slip out that it would be coming in mid-June. This was on Engadget. Granted, it's still not here, but this could've been misinterpreted by him to mean mid-July. The fact is, Sprint stands to lose A LOT if they don't release this update. Why it's taking so long, no one really knows.
Second, you're right in the fact that the increase is imminent. They even state when you buy the phone, and you must agree to it, that the insurance and deductible do go up for the phone.
Third, while this may be the place to talk about it, creating ANOTHER thread about a date where there still isn't ICS for the EVO 3D isn't exactly the way to go about it. I understand the frustration from many people about cluttered forums. This probably isn't a necessary thread. This should have, instead, been posted HERE.
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Sprint isn't going to lose anything by not releasing the update.. what do you think they are going to lose?
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Fact is HTC has already put out ICS. Therefore they have to provide source and will for it. We don't need the official Sprint update. Just source. When that happens you'll see. Doesn't matter what Sprint does now at this point. We need kernel source which they have yet to provide but will and have to.
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Sprint isn't going to lose anything by not releasing the update.. what do you think they are going to lose?
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Educate yourself.
Both Sprint and HTC are listed there. And to top it off, with an Executive (My apologies, this was actually David Owens, VP of Product that stated this) saying on a very well-known blog (on a video none-the-less), that the update is coming, I think that's a lot to look out for.
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How will you see it, if they don't do it??
Having been very satisfied with using MeanRom Gingerbread on my Evo 3D, I didn't know if I would like moving to ICS, but now I absolutely love it. After all, I could get nearly 2 days out of my battery with the cpu tweaks available for the GB ROMs, which are not available for ICS kernels yet.
That being said, from what I have been reading, it is a safe bet that your Evo3D will never see an OTA update from Sprint, and if you want ICS, you're gonna need to root your phone.
After being so impressed with MeanRom (GB), I decided to tryout the MeanRom ICS version, but the battery life is really not very good, and the phone seemed to lag terribly at times. I was holding out hope this would be improved, but considering the developer has recently purchased a Evo 4G LTE, I think he is moving on, and I have given up hope on this ROM. I considered going back to GB, but decided to try two other ICS ROMs that I really like. They are lightning quick, and have excellent battery life. First is Cool ICS, which has built in Beats Audio, and makes a surprising difference via Bluetooth to a Bose Soundlink (which is awesome, by the way).
The other ROM that I am fond of, but seems to be lacking a few features is the NegaLite BluRom ICS. I wanted to send a request to the developer, but unfortunately, I am unable to do so until I get 10 posts, so I guess this is why you had to see me ramble away on this reply.
Its getting mighty chilly in here.
Me thinks the zero tolerance rules are about to kick in.
I usually optimistic regarding updates, especially with Sprint (HTC is ok, i feel someone in HTC is the source of our VM leak in the first place). However recently I've been feeling this phone is slowly becoming a bastard child for HTC/Sprint. They want to forget how they weren't able to hit their sales mark with this device and they are looking towards the future (One Series).
In a business sense, ICS will not give Sprint their ROI if they were to spend time delivering it as an OTA. They will rather allocate their limited man-power to supplement their latest and greatest devices. Sadly, its just business, and there's nothing we can do about it since we're sadly slaves to the Tele-gods.
Personally, now that I know I love rooting/hacking/modifying my phone, I know my next purchase will be a Nexus device that will bypass Telecoms entirely.
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I've been doing some searches regarding that 18-month upgrade cycle Google mentioned last year in their I/O conference. Sadly it was a hollow promise:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...nt-get-an-upgrade-to-ice-cream-sandwich/17295
Again we don't need Sprints update. Just HTC's source which they will provide. This is all useless.
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Can we please get this worthless thread closed. On top of everything else that has been said, I do not believe that any of this information came from CS but from the OP's mind. This is nothing but a classic troll thread......
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Htc has made numerous statements that it will review the bootloader policy but as mentioned in many text we all know that just spin, I say we boycott HTC and dont buy on launch day unless the lock is down
Dear sir, I see this is your first post and I welcome you to the site, but how many of these threads do we really need?
Unfortunately, even if this entire website were to buy a EVO 3D, it would not even make a dent in the amount of profits they will get on launch. Everyone wants a 3D phone, most people don't know about rooting phones.
im not new to the site been around for 6 years under three names i keep forgetting my old passwords and i dont have access to the old email on file but my post is for boycotting upon release date not just making a statement but rather not purchasing until a fix is present
HTC doesn't really give a flying **** about our *****ing. If all of us who were previously considering the Evo 3d don't buy it, HTC wouldn't care. We are the minority, the mainstream people who don't know what root means will continue to buy It regardless.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
Htc better care, who do you think makes all of the apps that are the reason why ios and android are what they are today? If they're not smart enough to care today then they'll start caring a few months from now when all of the 3D apps are designed for the optimus and the E3D is irrelevant.
Theyre already one of the last out the gate with dual cores
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HTC doesn't really give a flying **** about our *****ing. If all of us who were previously considering the Evo 3d don't buy it, HTC wouldn't care. We are the minority, the mainstream people who don't know what root means will continue to buy It regardless.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
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That is correct. But who do the majority come to when deciding which phone to buy? The geeks. Imagine if engadget, phonedog, cnet, etc... were to give the EVO 3D bad reviews? Can you imagine what the comments will say in those articles? Even if we can't make a direct impact with our own sales, we influence the minds of many of those people that are not as tech savvy as us. My whole family has HTC phones cause of me. That will soon change. I am sure we can have a very powerful impact.
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im not new to the site been around for 6 years under three names i keep forgetting my old passwords and i dont have access to the old email on file but my post is for boycotting upon release date not just making a statement but rather not purchasing until a fix is present
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Still could have fit in with the other threads. Just saying - not trying to be a jerk or anything.
Honestly it's tough to follow so many threads and the numbers keep growing. Somebody should just merge them lol.
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Still could have fit in with the other threads. Just saying - not trying to be a jerk or anything.
Honestly it's tough to follow so many threads and the numbers keep growing. Somebody should just merge them lol.
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This. +1 (10 char)
I for one have a job with PHONE SALES, and i am sure i am not the only one. What we think will influence the customer greatly.
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Unfortunately, even if this entire website were to buy a EVO 3D, it would not even make a dent in the amount of profits they will get on launch. Everyone wants a 3D phone, most people don't know about rooting phones.
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Not true. We are the enthusiasts who shape consumer sentiment. This news has made it to all sorts of popular blogs recently. Even a friend of mine who rarely reads tech blogs stumbled across the news. My fiancee won't even think of buying it anymore obviously because I won't -- and I'll recommend other phones to her, my friends, and my family.
That's already ~10 devices for one pointless random person -- me. I know the effect isn't as dramatic for some others, but what we show off, what we brag about, what we get excited for and lust over... is highly contagious. The legendary HD2 didn't merely sell because of its "awesome features." It's still moderately (shockingly) popular today among enthusiasts and is happily sold and traded online -- because of the community.
Even if it's just a placebo effect for the masses (who won't ever know what "flashing" could possibly mean), placebo effect and public sentiment is one of the biggest influences the advertizing world has ever known.
Now the clincher -- many people besides the forum-goers here look to HTC as an alternative to Apple out of principle (or bad experience). They need just ask one enthusiast or read one of the many popular tech sites now posting this news to know that they shouldn't buy the device. How? They'll just read that it's "locked, unopened, encrypted, spurned by uber-geeks" just as the Apple product was.
Don't underestimate our power. Use it. Such social gathering and protest won revolts in random middle eastern countries. It even won a partial concession from Motorola and its formerly horrific bootloader policy. It's powerful, and it works. Vote now (link in sig, takes seconds) and/or contact HTC. Better yet, have your friends do the same. Welcome to Web 2.0 power, people.
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Actually, with the amount of discussion on the bootloader it might even make sense to have another subforum for it! Lots of useful content but it's all split between threads.
we need time to assess
Just tweeted this - not really any different than the others but still
@HTC - Say no to locked bootloaders and say yes to open development. #EVO3D - #Sprint - #youlockwewalk
Let's also get Sprint's attention! I just posted a thread on there. Respond or start your own. The more attention the better. I am sure Sprint is in on this also.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/comm...ew=discussions
I disagree with you completely. The N64 emulator and the 3D capability of the EVO 3d alone would attract so many people, its like a phone and a 3DS. We are a minority, we may be able to convince other people to not buy it, but a 3D phone is attractive to the masses sort of like an iPhone is.
it is still a damn good phone with gingerbread and sense 3.0, people wouldn't give a damn about locked bootloader, ask 10 of my friends and they probably wont know what the hell a locked bootloader is. Even if it is a locked bootloader there is always a way around.
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it is still a damn good phone with gingerbread and sense 3.0, people wouldn't give a damn about locked bootloader, ask 10 of my friends and they probably wont know what the hell a locked bootloader is. Even if it is a locked bootloader there is always a way around.
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wrong, you should really take a proactive approach to this and tell your friends about the locked boot loader. Second, yes there is a way around LOCKED BOOTLOADERS, but not an encrypted hboot, recovery AND kernel. With those being encrypted, we are essentially screwed.
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wrong, you should really take a proactive approach to this and tell your friends about the locked boot loader. Second, yes there is a way around LOCKED BOOTLOADERS, but not an encrypted hboot, recovery AND kernel. With those being encrypted, we are essentially screwed.
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Lol i say on htcs sites and email that i will not be gettin the evo 3d bc of this to try and change there mind . But really who thinks its gonna help ? Sprint and other carriers have a roll in this to they dont want you to be able to get hot spot free anymore,
Im gonna get thr evo 3d for the phone itself
No matter if they change it or not , the evo 3d is the bEst phone coming out soon its htc , htc has the best build quality other then apple and i hate apple
But you people or can say ur gettin samsung or lg can go ahead i will wait 6 months for a full root with a leaked eng bootloader half root wont hurt untill then . What will hurt is u people going to samsung or lg and couple months down the road ur phone falls apart i would rather a great phone then a phone with a unlocked bootloader
We will get full root, some how, some way. If htc does it the way that sony is (they unlock, flag as voided), I'm sure we will find a way to use that and unlock that biotch.
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Are they even a credible site for mobile news?
Could that be the reason for the "delay" if there even was a delay..
Don't cry about putting this another thread or whine about another bootloader thread being made I'm not gonna dig up a old thread to post this.
If this is old new let it die with the multiple duplicate threads by not commenting or posting.
http://www.mobilestorm.co.uk/news/2...nokia-boss-dismisses-microsoft-takeover-talk/
HTC also sends phone specs and documents to the FCC
Looks like a sail is on the horizon where saved!
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It's.the.first I heard of it actually happening..it eludes that HTC had to backtrack..seems to be the reason for the.delay good find
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It's.the.first I heard of it actually happening..it eludes that HTC had to backtrack..seems to be the reason for the.delay good find
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Yeah I checked before posting but since this was posted today I figured it would be worth its own thread
And yeah first time I herd the word "backtrack" on the evo 3d
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"Back tracking" to remove the lock on the bootloader was my suspicion the whole time. Begs the question, why not provide an OTA update to unlock it? This is going to be the longest 3 weeks ever
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"Back tracking" to remove the lock on the bootloader was my suspicion the whole time. Begs the question, why not provide an OTA update to unlock it? This is going to be the longest 3 weeks ever
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I was thinking it would be a OTA updated but I guess they literally unboxed hundreds of thousands of phones to do what we wanted them to do...
We win the bootloader battle but lose to the waiting game ..
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Idk, I have a hard time believing they unboxed every phone to update its bootloader, but I guess we will know when our phones arrive if that had been the case, I think they'll be locked when we get them... we're talking millions of phones here.
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Idk, I have a hard time believing they unboxed every phone to update its bootloader, but I guess we will know when our phones arrive if that had been the case, I think they'll be locked when we get them... we're talking millions of phones here.
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Not millions they only make so many at first...
Then after there stock runs low they just order more to be made
I had 3 g2x's in a weeks time all with manufactured dates no later than a week old...
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Not millions they only make so many at first...
Then after there stock runs low they just order more to be made
I had 3 g2x's in a weeks time all with manufactured dates no later than a week old...
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hmm, well its a lot of phones... its not like its just a 5,000 phones (which is a lot all in itself)
and as far as dates go, that **** can get silly, the galaxy s vibrant was a bit screwed up for some people, volume rocker wasn't helping us get to recovery like it was supposed too.. and there was a whole big date time of frame where people thought it was the issue, and the dates were really odd.. def more than a week or two old before they were received.
Yeah I'm not saying the manufactured dates are all correct I also remember the vibrant button recovery problem
But if it was suppose to launch the 4th of June and now the 24th its not that unreasonably for them to do it...
When I worked at a plastic factory and a company sent back " bad or faulty" parts we would rework them in days where talking millions of parts...
They have the unlock codes and thousands of employees to do it... honestly in a 12 hour shift a single person could do a few thousand phones alone. Now times that by a thousand employees and a few weeks its done in no time
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I would highly doubt that is the reason for the delay and to be honest, no one said the EVO 3d was delayed except for people posting bogus dates on this site.
It is not like Sprint said the EVO 3d is getting released on June 4th. It was all speculation that it was being released the same day as the original EVO and I have yet to see anything from Sprint that says otherwise.
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I would highly doubt that is the reason for the delay and to be honest, no one said the EVO 3d was delayed except for people posting bogus dates on this site.
It is not like Sprint said the EVO 3d is getting released on June 4th. It was all speculation that it was being released the same day as the original EVO and I have yet to see anything from Sprint that says otherwise.
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That's why I said IF there was ever a delay...
But the phone is coming soon
HTC just released the phone to the FCC
http://m.pocketnow.com/android/htc-evo-3d-drops-a-boatload-of-fcc-docs
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The word "backtracked" meant they back tracked on policy. Before open bootloaders, then locked bootloaders, backtracked to open It will be locked when released, a OTA will fix it OR a "leak". Perhaps it may be unlocked when released, due to the real release date, when ever that is. It was never coming on June 4th like everyone hoped/dreamed. I mean it is just now getting sent to the FCC, you think they delayed sending off to the FCC for a bootloader? lol
Reality Sucks!
Just because they "back tracked" on the e3d DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE UNBOXING ALL THOSE PHONES. It very well could mean they backtracked their thought process and it'll still be OTA. because it also states the "back tracking effect future phones. So I doubt for fun they are going to lock those bootloaders, package them and then un box them. just to unlock the boot loader. It didn't say that was the cause of the phone not being out or even a delay.
Folks this phone is coming when it's coming. I doubt there has even been so much as a delay. people really need to settle down. Its coming. HTC said so Sprint said so, and the FCC has paper work.
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Just because they "back tracked" on the e3d DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE UNBOXING ALL THOSE PHONES. It very well could mean they backtracked their thought process and it'll still be OTA. because it also states the "back tracking effect future phones. So I doubt for fun they are going to lock those bootloaders, package them and then un box them. just to unlock the boot loader. It didn't say that was the cause of the phone not being out or even a delay.
Folks this phone is coming when it's coming. I doubt there has even been so much as a delay. people really need to settle down. Its coming. HTC said so Sprint said so, and the FCC has paper work.
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how do we know these phones were all boxed to begin with? more more speculation. Everywhere here just assumes they were. I doubt they box them up 5 weeks ahead of time just to sit around. HTC Sprint want this out as soon as possible (hopefully while making sure its a finished product) so they can start to pay for the R&D
God,i can't wait for the dev section. So I dont have to read this garbage anymore.
R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
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how do we know these phones were all boxed to begin with? more more speculation. Everywhere here just assumes they were. I doubt they box them up 5 weeks ahead of time just to sit around. HTC Sprint want this out as soon as possible (hopefully while making sure its a finished product) so they can start to pay for the R&D
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thats pretty much my point. WE KNOW NOTHING. but a lot of people around here assumes that they are 4 months delayed boxed and shrink wrapped with their names on it.
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God,i can't wait for the dev section. So I dont have to read this garbage anymore.
R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
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Heck yes, with my epic i never go in the general section, now i remember why.
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God,i can't wait for the dev section. So I dont have to read this garbage anymore.
R.I.P hd2 hello Evo 3d
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Werd....
For a mobile blog they sure are behind with the news cycle...
Like others have said, there is NOTHING in this article that hasn't already been previously stated. The cost to HTC to fully backtrack the hardware already in the channel and NOT issue the update via OTA would be a joke.
Everybody just needs to chill out, be cool. We're all gonna be a bunch of Fonzies here.
BTW, the HTC EVO 3D is in the suitcase. Ringo gets greedy like some of us on this board, doesn't know how to be cool. Then we get into these stalemates.
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thats pretty much my point. WE KNOW NOTHING. but a lot of people around here assumes that they are 4 months delayed boxed and shrink wrapped with their names on it.
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Like I said before I know phones are not boxed 3 months before ... i just picked up a brand new white evo with a manufactured date of 1/17/11
A year old phone and the assumption that is was boxed for 3 months and sat on the shelf for another 3 months makes since.
But i also had 3 g2x's on launch day 4/15-4/25 all with dates close to a week before that.
I know Everything is speculation up until Sprint releases a real date.
A lot of us are sick of pointless triple posted threads with the same info.
This is some what "new ****" so before getting up on that high horse and telling people to stop posted crap you don't wanna read. And you can't wait for the Dev. Section.
why don't you point the finger back at your self and ask, why the **** you keep lurking the general section of a phone that doesn't have a official release date.
Just trying to bring the top new to you without you having to do the latest and greatest Google search...
Consider me Ron burgundy...
/rant and thread if need be
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Just what the title says, opinions? I have had the 3d for the weekend pretty much and it is ok, but some things I am finding out about it are lacking. The 3d camera is nice, but what would I really use it for? To me its almost just a, ' Hey look at my cool camera' type gimmick.
What are some of your guys' thoughts on the Epic/Nexus, or how about the Photon, I think the Photon actually looks pretty cool and I would have my kickstand back.
Thoughts? Please be as detailed as possible, would be appreciated.
Thanks
I can't really give any opinion on the Photon as it's not out yet, but the Evo 3D is well ahead of both the Epic and the Nexus S in terms of hardware. I currently have an Evo 4G and owned an Epic for a while before I got fed up with it and gave it to my wife so I could get my Evo back. I suppose it all depends on what you intend to do with your phone, but the current Samsung offerings aren't in the same league as the Evo 3D. It has a higher res screen, a faster clock speed, twice as many cores, and twice as much RAM.
Between Sprint giving me my original Sprint Premier early upgrade back for the EVO 3D launch, and Target giving me $150 trade it, total out of pocket cost to upgrade was just $68 and adding a year to my contract.
It's also a big plus that HTC will OFFICIALLY be permitting root. I know at least one dev (I forget which it was) has a 3D in hand. So, there ought to be lots of non-Sprint options.
So far my only complaint is that the colors on the screen seem faded. Like a cloudy day. Not the end of the world, but I wouldn't have liked a better/brighter screen. (Not the AMOLED one though, those are too saturated. Like looking inside a fish tank.)
I currently have the epic and evo 3d as my daily phones and i can tell you to avoid the epic like the plague....i have had software problems from phone ramdomly exiting applications to slow laggy perfromance on almost everything except gaming. I have had my epic since release and will never purchase a samsung phone again...their hardware is usually incrementally better than the competition but their software implementation leaves much to be desired, which makes superior hardware null at best. The feel of the evo 3d in hand really makes it feel like you are holding something premium in your hand...im sure the sgs2 will follow the same lead with hardware being better, but i have no faith in their ability to deliver on thevsoftware front........i bet the evo 3d will get ice cream sandwich before the sgs2 at least by 6 months.
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I currently have the epic and evo 3d as my daily phones and i can tell you to avoid the epic like the plague....i have had software problems from phone ramdomly exiting applications to slow laggy perfromance on almost everything except gaming. I have had my epic since release and will never purchase a samsung phone again...their hardware is usually incrementally better than the competition but their software implementation leaves much to be desired, which makes superior hardware null at best. The feel of the evo 3d in hand really makes it feel like you are holding something premium in your hand...im sure the sgs2 will follow the same lead with hardware being better, but i have no faith in their ability to deliver on thevsoftware front........i bet the evo 3d will get ice cream sandwich before the sgs2 at least by 6 months.
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I pretty much agree with both of these guys. Consider that the 3d has had 3 OTAs to fix "bugs" and it's only been a week. The hold up for Gingerbread to show up on the Evo 4G was more due to the fact that the Nexus S was the only device allowed to have Gingerbread for a certain period of time as per Google. As soon as that time frame was up, HTC and Motorola both had Gingerbread for their flagship phones... The Epic and some other Galaxy S phones are still waiting.
I think HTC and Motorola are sharing the title of "King of the Hill" when it comes to android phones. I personally like HTC's hardware better. They both have provided similar (i.e. good) support to their user community. Motorola's success I attribute to the "Droid" marketing campaign by Verizon, but they have backed that up with action and performance. Will have to see how the Photon pans out, though.
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the 3d has had 3 OTAs to fix "bugs" and it's only been a week.
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The phone has only been "officially" out for 4 days, not even a week yet. HTC seems to be working hard to keep the bugs to a minimum (of course opening up the bootloader is another thing entirely).
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I pretty much agree with both of these guys. Consider that the 3d has had 3 OTAs to fix "bugs" and it's only been a week. The hold up for Gingerbread to show up on the Evo 4G was more due to the fact that the Nexus S was the only device allowed to have Gingerbread for a certain period of time as per Google. As soon as that time frame was up, HTC and Motorola both had Gingerbread for their flagship phones... The Epic and some other Galaxy S phones are still waiting.
I think HTC and Motorola are sharing the title of "King of the Hill" when it comes to android phones. I personally like HTC's hardware better. They both have provided similar (i.e. good) support to their user community. Motorola's success I attribute to the "Droid" marketing campaign by Verizon, but they have backed that up with action and performance. Will have to see how the Photon pans out, though.
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I tend to agree with everyone here for the most part, although the Photon looks pretty sick imo. I do like HTC better but we are not 100% sure that the 3d will be rooted yet are we? I have seen conflicting results. The specs on the Photon seem a bit better than the 3d in some aspects. As far as the other two go I won't get either of those. It would only be between the Photon and this 3d right now.
On a better note I don't understand why people had to pay for their 3d's, makes me feel good. I didn't pay a dime, just gave them my EVO back and dude gave me the 3d. Even got my girl her first smartphone, the LG optimus, decent unit also for absolutely nothing. Guess it helps when the manager at that store wants to keep your business. Not to mention a free screen protector and case.
Lucky I guess.
Very curious about the Photon. Has intrigued my interest.
Thanks for everyone's input.
So I found out what I'm going to do, and the manager actually suggested I do this. Basically I am going to wait for the release date to be announced as far as the photon goes. Hopefully it is within my 30 day trial for my 3d, if it isn't, on the 28th day of my trial I will be taking my 3d in and getting another 3d therefore resetting my 30 day time period, then once I get the photon if I don't like it I will just switch back to the 3d.
So it's looking like a win win here.
Just posted this so that other people can do it if they so choose.
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So I found out what I'm going to do, and the manager actually suggested I do this. Basically I am going to wait for the release date to be announced as far as the photon goes. Hopefully it is within my 30 day trial for my 3d, if it isn't, on the 28th day of my trial I will be taking my 3d in and getting another 3d therefore resetting my 30 day time period, then once I get the photon if I don't like it I will just switch back to the 3d.
So it's looking like a win win here.
Just posted this so that other people can do it if they so choose.
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I thought you could only do the 30 day exchange once?
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So I found out what I'm going to do, and the manager actually suggested I do this. Basically I am going to wait for the release date to be announced as far as the photon goes. Hopefully it is within my 30 day trial for my 3d, if it isn't, on the 28th day of my trial I will be taking my 3d in and getting another 3d therefore resetting my 30 day time period, then once I get the photon if I don't like it I will just switch back to the 3d.
So it's looking like a win win here.
Just posted this so that other people can do it if they so choose.
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You can only do the exchange once per ugrade... and you can't do it on the same phone. You can get a replacement if there's a problem, but you can't just exchange for one of the same thing. You can return it, but then if you get another 3D, you won't get another 30 day grace-period.
Either they lied to you to get you to shut up and buy the phone, or that manager is an idiot.
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So I found out what I'm going to do, and the manager actually suggested I do this. Basically I am going to wait for the release date to be announced as far as the photon goes. Hopefully it is within my 30 day trial for my 3d, if it isn't, on the 28th day of my trial I will be taking my 3d in and getting another 3d therefore resetting my 30 day time period, then once I get the photon if I don't like it I will just switch back to the 3d.
So it's looking like a win win here.
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im pretty sure exchanging doesn't reset your 30-day
what would keep people from endlessly exchanging after 28 days to keep their return window?
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You can only do the exchange once per ugrade... and you can't do it on the same phone. You can get a replacement if there's a problem, but you can't just exchange for one of the same thing. You can return it, but then if you get another 3D, you won't get another 30 day grace-period.
Either they lied to you to get you to shut up and buy the phone, or that manager is an idiot.
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No, I know the manager. I know he isn't lying, and maybe you 'can't' do it normally but he is doing it for me. Think what you will.
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No, I know the manager. I know he isn't lying, and maybe you 'can't' do it normally but he is doing it for me. Think what you will.
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Well when he loses his job, feel free to pay his rent for him. You can return the phone for any reason within 30 days, but you can't just keep exchanging. I'm sure that will throw a flag up in Sprint's database real quick.
If you get away with it, all the more power to you... but if you get stuck with a phone that you don't actually want because you're trying to leapfrog a free ticket and your friend ends up jobless... it's your own fault.
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Well when he loses his job, feel free to pay his rent for him. You can return the phone for any reason within 30 days, but you can't just keep exchanging. I'm sure that will throw a flag up in Sprint's database real quick.
If you get away with it, all the more power to you... but if you get stuck with a phone that you don't actually want because you're trying to leapfrog a free ticket and your friend ends up jobless... it's your own fault.
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Actually I just got off the phone with Sprint and the process is allowed, to a certain extent. Not sure why your so mad, but to each their own. Why would I pay someone's rent for someone? That has nothing to do with anything, and I doubt he is going to do something like that if it would cost him his job. Get real.
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Actually I just got off the phone with Sprint and the process is allowed, to a certain extent. Not sure why your so mad, but to each their own. Why would I pay someone's rent for someone? That has nothing to do with anything, and I doubt he is going to do something like that if it would cost him his job. Get real.
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I'm not mad about anything, just pointing out that doing something sneaky and underhanded like allowing someone to leapfrog their contract and 30 day return is a good way for someone to lose their job.
Apparently you didn't get what I meant by paying his rent... I guess I have to type things very literally so it doesn't go over people's heads. If he loses his job, he won't have any money. If he doesn't have money, he can't pay rent. If he can't pay rent because he lost his job for you... then it goes back to what I said before.
If it were allowed at all, nobody would ever be locked into a contract, because we'd all just keep leapfrogging our phones around every 30 days to something else, or even the same thing.
Anyway, pick which phone you want, it's all up to personal preference. I got my EVO 3D because it's the EVO's big brother (shouldn't say that, someone might not understand...). Alright, it's the EVO's successor, so it was a logical choice for me because of how well my EVO has treated me. Don't let everyone else decide which phone you should get, you're the one that will be using it.
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I'm not mad about anything, just pointing out that doing something sneaky and underhanded like allowing someone to leapfrog their contract and 30 day return is a good way for someone to lose their job.
Apparently you didn't get what I meant by paying his rent... I guess I have to type things very literally so it doesn't go over people's heads. If he loses his job, he won't have any money. If he doesn't have money, he can't pay rent. If he can't pay rent because he lost his job for you... then it goes back to what I said before.
If it were allowed at all, nobody would ever be locked into a contract, because we'd all just keep leapfrogging our phones around every 30 days to something else, or even the same thing.
Anyway, pick which phone you want, it's all up to personal preference. I got my EVO 3D because it's the EVO's big brother (shouldn't say that, someone might not understand...). Alright, it's the EVO's successor, so it was a logical choice for me because of how well my EVO has treated me. Don't let everyone else decide which phone you should get, you're the one that will be using it.
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Oh I get it, you're just an asshole. Thanks for sharing. Go be a douche somewhere else. Every single thing you said had no bearing on my question. I didn't say it was the honorable thing to do, but hey, if I can do I am going to do it. I have a feeling that if you could do it, you would to. So get off your high horse there chump.
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Oh I get it, you're just an asshole. Thanks for sharing. Go be a douche somewhere else. Every single thing you said had no bearing on my question. I didn't say it was the honorable thing to do, but hey, if I can do I am going to do it. I have a feeling that if you could do it, you would to. So get off your high horse there chump.
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There are no needs for insults my friend. Let's keep the peace!
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There are no needs for insults my friend. Let's keep the peace!
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I find what he said more insulting. I will speak my peace, thank you.
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Actually I just got off the phone with Sprint and the process is allowed, to a certain extent. Not sure why your so mad, but to each their own. Why would I pay someone's rent for someone? That has nothing to do with anything, and I doubt he is going to do something like that if it would cost him his job. Get real.
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Well damn if that's the case, then I'm gonna have a brand new EVO 3D every 29 days now!
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Oh I get it, you're just an asshole. Thanks for sharing. Go be a douche somewhere else. Every single thing you said had no bearing on my question. I didn't say it was the honorable thing to do, but hey, if I can do I am going to do it. I have a feeling that if you could do it, you would to. So get off your high horse there chump.
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1: I am an asshole
2: I wouldn't do what you're doing, as I get a phone that I want, I don't need the next best thing every month. I got the 3D as my phone for the next year at least, regardless of the other phones that are around the corner
3: Pick a phone that's good for you, but because you obviously need the biggest ego around, keep trying to hop around to make sure you have the best phone possible. The 3D section of XDA doesn't need you here, good luck on the Nexus S, Epic, or Photon boards...
Their is almost nothing on their facebook about the unlocked bootloader. Maybe they decided it is not worth their time since most people forgot about it already or simply do not care. We need to keep bombarding them with emails and posts just like we did when it was first announced. If HTC thinks that we have forgotten or no longer care then they might not even bother. Persistence is key!
its been done already. Trust me, if they wanna do it they will, if they go back on their word it will be a mess for them. I dont think the emails are going to do any better at this point, since they have already said it, and what more can we get from them? Now its in the hands of the decision makers as when to release it. Sending them email it probably a waste of your time and theirs, bunch of people have done and they say they will unlock it. I dont think you are going to hear anything different.
Its time for people to start actually returning their phones. Not only that, but post on FB/Twitter and tag HTC in the post.
its all about that people saw that devs here at xda are close to this, so they dont care anymore
Them not mentioning the bootloader is not a reason for everyone to just give up on the 3d. This is an extremely nice phone that hasn't been out for 2 weeks, be patient people it'll come.
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I just don't think that will be especially helpful. But I dont mind posting on their fb page later today. Ill just ask for a date.
They have already stated that they will unlock the 3D but they are working out the details. It will happen but it might be another month or more before it actually happens. Emailing them isn't going to make it happen faster. And returning your phone isn't going to cause them to do anything either. We are a minority ourselves and then there is a minority of the minority that would be willing to return their phones which isn't enough volume to make HTC even blink.
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Their is almost nothing on their facebook about the unlocked bootloader. Maybe they decided it is not worth their time since most people forgot about it already or simply do not care. We need to keep bombarding them with emails and posts just like we did when it was first announced. If HTC thinks that we have forgotten or no longer care then they might not even bother. Persistence is key!
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what do you mean 'YOU people'???
So, what happens if I do return the Evo 3d? If I don't get another phone, and use an older phone that I have, will my upgrade status be set to a full upgrade? Or do I have to get another new phone? Will I still have a 2 year contract, or will it be reset to what it was? Just wondering, because I don't know what other phone I would get. Also If I return it now, can I buy it again at discount price once Htc unlocks it? I know there are a lot of people here who work for sprint. Also, I purchased it from RS if that makes a difference. Thanks
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What do YOU mean "you people"?
Htc does not care if you return your phone. Sprint buys the phones from HTC, then sprint sells the phones with their plans. HTC has their money they already sold the phones to sprint. So if you return the phone HTC could care less its no money out of their pocket. It would be sprints loss more then anything.
Let's not forget that HTC NEVER said they would unlock the EVO 3D bootloader. They said they would change their policies on FUTURE devices. They also stated that since the EVO 3D was already far into production that their statement did not apply to the EVO 3D but that they are reviewing whether or not to unlock the bootloader for the EVO 3D.
I'm all for being patient and the phone is currently still kicking ass in spite of Sense..but...we are losing developers. Perhaps not right this second, but, with every minute that goes by we march closer and closer the the 30 day window closing more and more devs are wondering what to do, keep it or get the SGS2 which will be no problem to dev for?
It's going through nearly ever users mind (here) and probably every devs mind. HTC is dragging their heels, developers are losing interest, users are getting scared...HTC has their money, what do they care if they take 3 months? By then developer interest will be close to gone and if/when we get CM8 it will be extra buggy for us for a while...and a month or two later the next big phone I'm going to get will be announced...
I think this screen is absolutely gorgeous and going to the SGS2 would be a giant downgrade in resolution--screw the overblown colors, compare your EVO3D to your EVO4G side by side...the resolution difference will be missed...
...but, I miss theming, custom roms, custom kernels, overclocking, wifi tether, the security in having a nandroid backup, the security in knowing that if I **** something up *I* can fish around in there and fix it--which I currently lack.
I amazing devs are doing all they can, and I thank them graciously for their efforts...and perhaps HTC will unlock the phone--eventually--but will that be soon enough to save our "scene"?
After keeping an eye on the dev threads for the 3D and Sensation I see a lot of brilliant ideas being thrown around. Some seriously clever people in there...but also some very major roadblocks in this phone, all very intentionally engineered to keep us out.
I guess what I'm getting at is: What is everybody elses "worst case scenario" plan? If i bring the phone back and it gets cracked the next day I can always go buy another one. What phone will most of the user community migrate to? What of developers?
Mine is to bring back my phone on the 30th day if it is not cracked or officially unlocked. Then wait for for the SGS2...(my only concern being the crappy radio, but, the EVO3D has a pretty weak radio too). If during my wait the EVO3D is cracked or unlocked I have the option to buy that again, or even wait longer...
thoughts?
You're complaining about unlocked bootloader..?
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You're complaining about unlocked bootloader..?
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Read the tag on this thread.
For those who may not have seen this, a Sprint VP yesterday put a date on when we might expect the *official* Sprint ICS update - and it will include Sense 3.6. In light of the VM woes, I for one will be in the "waiting for the official" camp. I apologize if this has been seen before - but to my knowledge this is the first *official* word on a release date from Sprint brass.
From the mouth of David Owens, a VP for the wireless provider, "the eagerly-awaited Ice Cream Sandwich update for the HTC EVO 3D is set to arrive sometime in June."
http://www.mobilebloom.com/arrival-...-next-month-confirmed-by-sprint-exec/2213697/
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For those who may not have seen this, a Sprint VP yesterday put a date on when we might expect the *official* Sprint ICS update - and it will include Sense 3.6. In light of the VM woes, I for one will be in the "waiting for the official" camp. I apologize if this has been seen before - but to my knowledge this is the first *official* word on a release date from Sprint brass.
http://www.mobilebloom.com/arrival-...-next-month-confirmed-by-sprint-exec/2213697/
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Thanks for the info. I haven't read it yet. Not sure if it's posted in the correct forum, however, I'm glad you did because I wouldn't have caught it otherwise.
Honestly I only considered the forum-spot after I posted it. I'm such a tinkerer that I rarely pay attention to the other forums. Having said that - and I'm sure they would anyway - but if this post would be more fitting somewhere else - admins - please feel free to move it
Not only is this probably in the wrong place, it has been posted before...
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Not only is this probably in the wrong place, it has been posted before...
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Not necessary. Guy's just trying to be helpful and no doubt the mods will move this one. Chill out about it.
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Not necessary. Guy's just trying to be helpful and no doubt the mods will move this one. Chill out about it.
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True story....
Regardless, dude was trying to be helpful, and he was. Helped me. I've interested to hear the news and haven't seen it elsewhere. No one here has the time to read every single post in every single thread on every single forum. So, glad I caught it here as I've been waiting patiently.
Until then, I'm enjoying the Kingdom Boost ICS ROM has it has been fully functional with hardly any glitches. Android 4.0 + HTC Sense 3.6 = Win (in my book).
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Not only is this probably in the wrong place, it has been posted before...
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Meh... I included a pre-emptory mea culpa both in the OP and after. I would, in complete sincerity, love to know where the *official* date estimate was posted before... I say that only because the interview quoted happened *yesterday*. Any dates before that were, according to the article, pure speculation.
Having said that, I concur that this is probably in the wrong place and again would say feel free to move it...
notice how the release is after the release of the new evo. I wonder if they think the ics update will deter people from buying a new evo.
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notice how the release is after the release of the new evo. I wonder if they think the ics update will deter people from buying a new evo.
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Believe me I noted the same thing... Dual core 1.2 to dual core 1.5 with a better screen... I'd bet the 3D is fixin to have its price slashed. But the fact that Sprint is, and has been, selling the 3D full-out for the past entire year as a flagship phone alongside the SII, nexus, and soon-to-be-released E4GLTE, I think Sprint knew it *had* to include the 3D in the upgrade - or the sales of the 3D would have petered out long ago... Just a guess.
I'll be in line for the E4GLTE once Sprint's network issues (3 months, and counting) in my area are rectified. GD "network vision." "Sprint - the Hopefully Next Month network"
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notice how the release is after the release of the new evo. I wonder if they think the ics update will deter people from buying a new evo.
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Probably so. Everything to boost sales! But, peeps like us who try to be savvy with the phone rooting stuff tend to extend the lives of our phones way past what the tech moguls try to tell us they should be. Shoot, even ICS seems to be hitting the old HTC Aria with a processor that's less than 1 GHz.
Yup, posted several days ago.
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Also Evo 3d has already been declared end of life on Sprint. Virgin mobile Evo 3D will get ICS before Sprint, that is how we have a leak of ICS over in the Dev forum. A nice FU from Sprint....
may have been posted elsewhere, but I hardly look anywhere other then the /development forum... so I for one am very glad it had the "moved" tag in the development forum or I wouldn't have seen it...
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notice how the release is after the release of the new evo. I wonder if they think the ics update will deter people from buying a new evo.
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It's marketing, I can see the angle. They don't want to tank potential sales of the new product by encouraging new customers to buy a cheaper phone capable of delivering nearly the same experience. So leave the new one on top long enough to get all the new customers to jump on, then start feeding the existing contract customers.
Now, I'm willing to expect the phone will never get an update, or at least take longer than it will to get me a new phone (Epic), but if they follow through with the ICS upgrade, that will make me a happy camper and tide me over until I'm ready and willing to renew my contract come November.
Figure that will also give enough time for tweaks to be made and bugs to be squished.
I *also* expect the upgrade to be delayed until the end of July
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Yup, posted several days ago.
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Also Evo 3d has already been declared end of life on Sprint. Virgin mobile Evo 3D will get ICS before Sprint, that is how we have a leak of ICS over in the Dev forum. A nice FU from Sprint....
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Well there ya have it! I didn't find that one in a quick, cursory search and assumed the news so new that it didn't occur to me others would've found it.
As for Sprint - I'm quickly losing faith - between my aforementioned network issues and their track record of slow-to-market updates - I'm rethinking my switch away from AT&T to Sprint - and now considering the unthinkable - Verizon....
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notice how the release is after the release of the new evo. I wonder if they think the ics update will deter people from buying a new evo.
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I used to think that. Until I actually used Sense 3.6. Then I was deterred to use a custom ROM or contemplate the EVO LTE.
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Well there ya have it! I didn't find that one in a quick, cursory search and assumed the news so new that it didn't occur to me others would've found it.
As for Sprint - I'm quickly losing faith - between my aforementioned network issues and their track record of slow-to-market updates - I'm rethinking my switch away from AT&T to Sprint - and now considering the unthinkable - Verizon....
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I hear ya. AT&T has the best selection as far as phones go (IMO). But I wonder, since VM is getting the 3VO, does this mean HTC will be obligated/choose to continue to release updates for it or will they not care as it's not an actual contract?
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Yup, posted several days ago.
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Also Evo 3d has already been declared end of life on Sprint. Virgin mobile Evo 3D will get ICS before Sprint, that is how we have a leak of ICS over in the Dev forum. A nice FU from Sprint....
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To be fair that technically wasn't an official update schedule. He said "the other devices" will get them in June, not the 3D specifically. Thread stays.
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I used to think that. Until I actually used Sense 3.6. Then I was deterred to use a custom ROM or contemplate the EVO LTE.
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I hear ya. AT&T has the best selection as far as phones go (IMO). But I wonder, since VM is getting the 3VO, does this mean HTC will be obligated/choose to continue to release updates for it or will they not care as it's not an actual contract?
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I've been using Boost Kingdom ROM. It's by far been very bug free (little stuff, but, still a daily driver). It's not based on any VM leaks. It's a fully functional port. I have 4G, 3D camera, Wifi tether, bluetooth, video recording, camera. I haven't found anything really borked on it. Plus, I reverted back to my 2.3 GB ROM with no issues when I needed to get something from the data.
It has HTC Sense 3.6 as well and it's the best Sense I've used yet. Very smooth.
I've been to AT&T, and they suck. I'm not too crazy about Sprint, however, to be honest, out of the phone companies I have dealt with or have family who has dealt with, Sprint has been the least hassle, even though their network is slow and their updates, too. I use way too much data to be limited to 2 GB per month. Scr3w that.
wardfan220 said:
To be fair that technically wasn't an official update schedule. He said "the other devices" will get them in June, not the 3D specifically. Thread stays.
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If u listen to his tone of voice and the way he said it, it sounded like he was just spitting any answer he could think of to shut the guy from Endgadget up as he was under pressure and now Sprint probably wishes he didn't do that. I too am with the idea of update in July or even ever for that matter. I mean do they really have to even give it to us in the 1st place? Most average users do not even know what ics is.
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saboxerman said:
I've been using Boost Kingdom ROM. It's by far been very bug free (little stuff, but, still a daily driver). It's not based on any VM leaks. It's a fully functional port. I have 4G, 3D camera, Wifi tether, bluetooth, video recording, camera. I haven't found anything really borked on it. Plus, I reverted back to my 2.3 GB ROM with no issues when I needed to get something from the data.
It has HTC Sense 3.6 as well and it's the best Sense I've used yet. Very smooth.
I've been to AT&T, and they suck. I'm not too crazy about Sprint, however, to be honest, out of the phone companies I have dealt with or have family who has dealt with, Sprint has been the least hassle, even though their network is slow and their updates, too. I use way too much data to be limited to 2 GB per month. Sc3ew that.
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Have to agree. As much as we may not like it, they are one of the best carriers out right now imo.
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t4d73 said:
Have to agree. As much as we may not like it, they are one of the best carriers out right now imo.
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Dude, when I came back to them after leaving AT&T (because they refused to honor my unlimited data plan. LOOOONG story), Sprint seriously effed my bill.
After three months of hassle and few credits, all was straight and good. The 4G network has more holes than Swiss cheese, but, there is a method I'm going to try to increase reception (some sort of setting to change using QPST or actual line codes, can't remember where I saw it yesterday). But, aside from all of that, my phone is pretty boss and does what I need it to do and I don't have to worry about data usage, and boy, can I use some data!!!!!!!
I still want a cleaned up version of their release of the ICS ROM, though. Until then, I am content with what I have.
EDIT: BTW, if you look at AT&T's pricing and Verizon's, they are considerably more expensive than Sprint's. With Sprint, my phone alone was $92 a month including taxes and an insurance plan. The same thing at AT&T with a 2GB plan instead of unlimited was starting at $110 or $115, something like that. This was a few months ago, could have changed by now, seeing how they change their minds more than they do their underwear.