Hello Guys,
total noob here so this could be a total noob question.
I was wondering if someone could explain the difference in a stock rom and a custome rom based on stock.
I s there real notable difference in performance?
And what difference does a kernel make to different roms?
I have a rooted s3 but would like to know more before playing with custom roms.
Thanks guys
The main advantage with custom roms is having other features and/or more customizibility options.
Of course there are usually some performance- and battery-tweaks aswell (usually to fix e.g. the Launcher redraw, tweak memory management, ...)
Read the description of the custom Rom's. The most popular ones are Omega and CM9, the latter not being a finished product and having several drawbacks in functionality (such as FM Radio, ...) but other nifty new features.
If you're still not sure if you should flash a custom ROM after reading... don't. However I recommend Omega if you should choose one.
Painless to use, very nice tweaks and -most important- continued and fast development and reaction to problems.
Kernels are more or less independend of the ROM and bring feature tweaks or additional low-level functionality such as the ability to use NTFS-formatted USB-Sticks or SD-Cards, and usually come with tweaks to save some more power in sleep mode while increasing responsiveness in active usage.
I prefer Siyah due to the dev being very active, around a long time and the kernel having lots of nice features.
Difference at present almost zero .
jje
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Please tell me which ram. kernel and
modem is the
best
for battery life
That all depends on how you use your phone.flash different ones and see how they go.type the names of some roms in the search bar and read what people have to say about them.usually takes a bit of time to find the right combination.different firmware versions can mean different rom vresions too.
i tried most of the ROM's
i found folowing
1. Cognition ROM (included kernel)- looking stock but feeling 3 times better - clean and clear - the best so far for battery usage
2. Lightening (included kernel) - stock basic but personalized - not as sharp as cogni but friendly interface with personal touch - ok for battery - better then stock for sure.
3. MIUI - (included kernel) - total outfit! amazing interface and diferent feeling - it has still very small bugs but u can live with them. nice for battery 2
4. caynogen mod(included kernel) - total android stock feeling - no samsung bloatware included - very friendly interface
and u have many options here - many combinations...
this is only my personal view
Oxygen is quite good on battery use too.
Any ROM that is a cut-down / vanilla version will be better on battery life too usually - e.g. - ROM's with HTC Sense will suck more battery due to all the added visual features.
I use tozch x 3.2 with sp1 and its for me the best for now
It also look like stock with a bit customization.
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Ok, so I could ask to help me find a good rom, but...all are different and everybody has an opinion, right? So here is what I want to know:
I go to the different rom pages, but how do I figure out what their particular tweaks are? I want good battery life, hacked hotspot, etc. You know, the usual. Don't need to overclock and all that (noob enough not to know/need to mess with that).
Couple things I would like that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere such as:
a "slide to answer" feature. You know, where a call comes in and you can just swipe to answer.
Dial pad pop-up that doesn't completely cover the mute/speaker options.,
I miss the Epic 4g Touch's feature that in the contact or call log list you can swipe left or right on the contact to "call" or "text". Instead the extra steps of having to press and hold to bring up a menu to choose.
So are there any roms out there that address these little quirks and if so, how do I figure out what rom's particular tweaks are?
Thanks for any help
Features of a ROM are almost always in the first couple of posts, either in change logs or feature lists. Some multi device ROMs such as CM10 don't have feature lists in their threads, so you'd have to go to their websites or flash them yourself.
My suggestion? Just try ROMs out. Start with the ROM threads that have the most posts or views. Those tend to be the better ROMs, because more people are interested. Just flash them, set them up, and explore them a bit. That's the best way to find what's good for YOU.
Most Sense ROMs don't have a ton of tweaks available, but if you're really looking for them, I would try Viper4G first. I'd also suggest AOKP, which is an AOSP ROM that has a ton of tweaks in it.
I would definitely give the viper 4g a whirl. you can always just flash a diff ROM if you don't like the one you get. also if you don't have it already, get goomanager. has different ROMS in it & makes it super easy to switch ROMS.
if u want a rom with stock look but is hella fast and great battery life go with Mean Rom.. if u want a rom that u can custimize go with Viper4G Rom
+1. Viper for tweaks, meanrom for performance.
Also, most ROMs have a list of the features on the opening post (OP) of the ROM thread. Some of them aren't all conclusive, but they help. I'd say your best option is ViperRom
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I'm contemplating trading my GNex in for a S3 LTE. Was playing with a non-LTE S3 in the shop earlier and noticed the S3 has three dedicated buttons (one hard, two touch) on the bottom that roughly equals the GNex's "menu" (the house-shaped one), back and a funny third button that seems to activate the "options" within apps. JB/ICS has a built in app-switcher but I dont see this or some Samsung version of it in TouchWiz.
Question 1: if I were to install a custom ROM onto the S3, what would those three buttons do? I presume the "back" and "home" buttons would behave the same, would that funny upside-down "U" button then toggle the app-switcher?
Question 2: How does the S3's camera work on a custom ROM? Does it use the native camera app or is there a Samsung camera .apk that can be downloaded? If you use the JB native app, would the photo quality be the same as it would be on a regular S3 w/ the factory ROM? Do the custom ROMS have adequate drivers to support the full 8M and higher sensitivity? The GNex's crap camera is driving me nuts
Question 3: Perhaps the most important question; I want to move onto a custom ROM b/c Samsung's slow at updating their firmware, and also b/c I want to get rid of the customization that comes w/ the S3 (namely TouchWiz and what they've done to the notification/status bars + menus etc). Is there a way to do this w/o going to a custom ROM?
Sorry lots of questions, but the S3 suddenly looks a lot more restrictive than the GNex
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Question 3: Perhaps the most important question; I want to move onto a custom ROM .... Is there a way to do this w/o going to a custom ROM?
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1. The buttons do Menu, home and back.
2. I haven't tried many camera apps but they all seem much the same, you will need to try it I suppose.
3. I am not sure if you got confused but I know I did!
You want to install a custom rom without installing a custom rom? No, I don't think you can do that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
Rom Index ..
Button remain the same unless changed by the rom maker .
Camera the same if using Samsung based custom rom.
3 is impossible without using a custom rom .
You can flash stock Samsung firmware often before the update .
You can flash a custom rom with the standard ASOP Android interface .
jje
JJEgan said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
Rom Index ..
Button remain the same unless changed by the rom maker .
Camera the same if using Samsung based custom rom.
3 is impossible without using a custom rom .
You can flash stock Samsung firmware often before the update .
You can flash a custom rom with the standard ASOP Android interface .
jje
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Tks all for your help. Sorry the 3rd question was terribly written. What I'd meant to ask was whether there was a way to strip all the Samsung customization (mainly how they change the notification menu + settings menu appearance) w/o having to use a custom ROM?
@JJEgan, tks for that ROM index, it's most useful. Are you aware of any ROMs that actually change the menu button back to the "recent apps" screen? How can I get to that functionality within the stock factory ROM? HTC has a funky 3D switcher, does Samsung have something?
Mucho gracias
ngmic said:
Tks all for your help. Sorry the 3rd question was terribly written. What I'd meant to ask was whether there was a way to strip all the Samsung customization (mainly how they change the notification menu + settings menu appearance) w/o having to use a custom ROM?
@JJEgan, tks for that ROM index, it's most useful. Are you aware of any ROMs that actually change the menu button back to the "recent apps" screen? How can I get to that functionality within the stock factory ROM? HTC has a funky 3D switcher, does Samsung have something?
Mucho gracias
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custom ROM = modification
what you seem to have requested...is to have modification to "strip all the Samsung customization"
so essentially...you will have to look into the option of custom ROMs.
do keep in mind that there are two main types of roms available...
Samsung based custom ROMs and Android Open Source Project (AOSP) ROMs.
Samsung based custom ROMs look virtually to be the same as the original one that you have on the phone when you first unbox it...but with small adjustments and tweaks to fix things that Samsung didnt fix, or forgot to fix...usually this means the same user experience but with better battery life, smoother UI transitions etc...generally further improving the same existing experience...
AOSP ROMs is totally different ROM experience in which many users are also interested in as it gives the user a more raw, more down to earth experience to Android...in addition, due to the fact that AOSP is more rudimentary in nature, it leads to faster rate of updates, fixes as well as modification due to the larger source tree as it relates to a wider range of AOSP compatible devices...
Galaxy Nexus is based on AOSP (without the Samsung Over-Lay) while this does typically mean a more leaner, low fat ROM, it does miss out on certain features such as in-box video playback, HDR camera functions, low motion high FPS camera functions, as well as other nifty and impressive functions...in which you would have actually paid the phone to do...
keep in mind...the Galaxy Nexus does have inferior hardware as far as most users will be concerned...
Samsung's "recent apps" can be shown by press and holding the middle physical button...
0semaj0 said:
custom ROM = modification
what you seem to have requested...is to have modification to "strip all the Samsung customization"
so essentially...you will have to look into the option of custom ROMs.
do keep in mind that there are two main types of roms available...
Samsung based custom ROMs and Android Open Source Project (AOSP) ROMs.
Samsung based custom ROMs look virtually to be the same as the original one that you have on the phone when you first unbox it...but with small adjustments and tweaks to fix things that Samsung didnt fix, or forgot to fix...usually this means the same user experience but with better battery life, smoother UI transitions etc...generally further improving the same existing experience...
AOSP ROMs is totally different ROM experience in which many users are also interested in as it gives the user a more raw, more down to earth experience to Android...in addition, due to the fact that AOSP is more rudimentary in nature, it leads to faster rate of updates, fixes as well as modification due to the larger source tree as it relates to a wider range of AOSP compatible devices...
Galaxy Nexus is based on AOSP (without the Samsung Over-Lay) while this does typically mean a more leaner, low fat ROM, it does miss out on certain features such as in-box video playback, HDR camera functions, low motion high FPS camera functions, as well as other nifty and impressive functions...in which you would have actually paid the phone to do...
keep in mind...the Galaxy Nexus does have inferior hardware as far as most users will be concerned...
Samsung's "recent apps" can be shown by press and holding the middle physical button...
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Tks buddy. The gNex is by no means a weak phone (for 99% of the population) but certainly the camera and screen leaves much to be desired. Call quality is quite iffy too, maybe b/c its microphones are too sensitive; I take calls on the road and the caller hears every car, pedestrian and bus that goes back. Sure it has dual microphones that does some level of noise cancellation but doesnt do a whole lot of good. The iPhone (esp 5) smokes the gNex here.
I'm not wild about all the Samsung functions but certainly having a better camera app w/ HDR built in, Smart Stay etc is pretty appealing. Samsung-based ROM it is then, if only they could bring back the stock JB look and feel...the cyan/B&W layout is very sleek.
Anyone here tried the LTE version (I9305)? Carriers here in HK are offering it for free w/ an unlimited LTE plan for about US50 a month. Bit of a no-brainer when it's the same effective price as the I9300 w/ more RAM ) but I wonder if there will be less custom ROMs developed, and how LTE battery life compares? I'm not a massive data hog looking to stream videos regularly but I do have to VPN home every few days
why not remove the bloatware?
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Question 3: Perhaps the most important question; I want to move onto a custom ROM b/c Samsung's slow at updating their firmware, and also b/c I want to get rid of the customization that comes w/ the S3 (namely TouchWiz and what they've done to the notification/status bars + menus etc). Is there a way to do this w/o going to a custom ROM?
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if you just want to remove the bloatware, have you considered simple rooting the stock firmware (not an upgrade and will block the samsung OTA update), then using a rooted explorer or adb or something (I personally use Titianium Backup to manage all my apps and backups) to delete the bloatware??
if you anything like me (who has been with android a while now) you'll have a set of 3rd party apps - so dont need the S Memo (love noteeverything) for example you can simple remove it from the phone. I did this for a few weeks before I moved to a custom ROM.
Heres a list of what is safe to remove...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTvctlW89DtdC1qVUlLeVFTV3ZOdUtDclpBdVRQOUE&pli=1#gid=0
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Hi all,
I know that pac-man rom says it incorporates CM10.1 and other goodies. But which is really better? What is in paranoidAndroid and AOKP that is not in CM10.1?
Cheers!
tls1
It's really a subjective matter; one isn't necessarily better than another. It's all what you like/prefer/need. Cyanogenmod is known for a good mix of stability, performance, and tweakability. Paranoid Android, for the most part, builds on Cyanogenmod and adds the hybrid engine for a hybrid phone/tablet layout that gives several options for customization. I haven't really used AOKP, but I do know that it is extremely customization oriented.
I'm using the Pac-Man Rom and it's working (almost) like a charm.
Only things that don't work are
1) Rear Camera
2) No zram option
3) Minfree Taskkiller not doing anything apparently, have set it to 50mb and never ever have 50mb free Sometimes even less than 5mb, which makes overall smoothness suffer a lot.
Other than that, with some initial troubleshooting I got it working perfectly fine, and it's A LOT faster and way more customizable than my previous Gingerbread Rom. There's some hidden setting for everything
I had to install and boot CM9 first though, then edit two entrys in build.prop (change venturi_usa to venturi).
Is there a way to make the minfree manager work? Can I just install another one from the market or is it gonna interfere with the one that comes preinstalled but doesn't work in the performance settings?
Nvm, user error. When I enter the task manager it just shows wrong information. Under running apps it appears to be showing the correct value.
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tls1tls1 said:
Hi all,
I know that pac-man rom says it incorporates CM10.1 and other goodies. But which is really better? What is in paranoidAndroid and AOKP that is not in CM10.1?
Cheers!
tls1
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I use it on my device because of the stability
Pac man rom is based on cm but with many added features
I'm new here, and I would like some suggestion about what to do with my S3.
I'm currently using Android 4.3 (not rooted yet), and after reading several posts saying that having very little free ram shouldn't affect the device performance, I'm a bit confused.
In many cases after leaving an app, the icons in the home screen take a while to redraw, sometimes 5 sec or so, so I always have to wait patiently before opening another app.
What would be the best solution to speed this up?
Should I root my phone and install a custom ROM or is there any other tricks? I've already optimized the best I could from what I read in this forum (turning off animation, transition, and all those non necessary Samsung features like those automatic adjustments.
Thanks for your suggestions.
CyrilleBriegel said:
I'm new here, and I would like some suggestion about what to do with my S3.
I'm currently using Android 4.3 (not rooted yet), and after reading several posts saying that having very little free ram shouldn't affect the device performance, I'm a bit confused.
In many cases after leaving an app, the icons in the home screen take a while to redraw, sometimes 5 sec or so, so I always have to wait patiently before opening another app.
What would be the best solution to speed this up?
Should I root my phone and install a custom ROM or is there any other tricks? I've already optimized the best I could from what I read in this forum (turning off animation, transition, and all those non necessary Samsung features like those automatic adjustments.
Thanks for your suggestions.
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Use custom kernel like boeffla, uninstall bloatware, trim your nand periodically, preferably o.c. Cpu and you are good to go