I'm contemplating trading my GNex in for a S3 LTE. Was playing with a non-LTE S3 in the shop earlier and noticed the S3 has three dedicated buttons (one hard, two touch) on the bottom that roughly equals the GNex's "menu" (the house-shaped one), back and a funny third button that seems to activate the "options" within apps. JB/ICS has a built in app-switcher but I dont see this or some Samsung version of it in TouchWiz.
Question 1: if I were to install a custom ROM onto the S3, what would those three buttons do? I presume the "back" and "home" buttons would behave the same, would that funny upside-down "U" button then toggle the app-switcher?
Question 2: How does the S3's camera work on a custom ROM? Does it use the native camera app or is there a Samsung camera .apk that can be downloaded? If you use the JB native app, would the photo quality be the same as it would be on a regular S3 w/ the factory ROM? Do the custom ROMS have adequate drivers to support the full 8M and higher sensitivity? The GNex's crap camera is driving me nuts
Question 3: Perhaps the most important question; I want to move onto a custom ROM b/c Samsung's slow at updating their firmware, and also b/c I want to get rid of the customization that comes w/ the S3 (namely TouchWiz and what they've done to the notification/status bars + menus etc). Is there a way to do this w/o going to a custom ROM?
Sorry lots of questions, but the S3 suddenly looks a lot more restrictive than the GNex
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Question 3: Perhaps the most important question; I want to move onto a custom ROM .... Is there a way to do this w/o going to a custom ROM?
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1. The buttons do Menu, home and back.
2. I haven't tried many camera apps but they all seem much the same, you will need to try it I suppose.
3. I am not sure if you got confused but I know I did!
You want to install a custom rom without installing a custom rom? No, I don't think you can do that.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
Rom Index ..
Button remain the same unless changed by the rom maker .
Camera the same if using Samsung based custom rom.
3 is impossible without using a custom rom .
You can flash stock Samsung firmware often before the update .
You can flash a custom rom with the standard ASOP Android interface .
jje
JJEgan said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1674286
Rom Index ..
Button remain the same unless changed by the rom maker .
Camera the same if using Samsung based custom rom.
3 is impossible without using a custom rom .
You can flash stock Samsung firmware often before the update .
You can flash a custom rom with the standard ASOP Android interface .
jje
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Tks all for your help. Sorry the 3rd question was terribly written. What I'd meant to ask was whether there was a way to strip all the Samsung customization (mainly how they change the notification menu + settings menu appearance) w/o having to use a custom ROM?
@JJEgan, tks for that ROM index, it's most useful. Are you aware of any ROMs that actually change the menu button back to the "recent apps" screen? How can I get to that functionality within the stock factory ROM? HTC has a funky 3D switcher, does Samsung have something?
Mucho gracias
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Tks all for your help. Sorry the 3rd question was terribly written. What I'd meant to ask was whether there was a way to strip all the Samsung customization (mainly how they change the notification menu + settings menu appearance) w/o having to use a custom ROM?
@JJEgan, tks for that ROM index, it's most useful. Are you aware of any ROMs that actually change the menu button back to the "recent apps" screen? How can I get to that functionality within the stock factory ROM? HTC has a funky 3D switcher, does Samsung have something?
Mucho gracias
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custom ROM = modification
what you seem to have requested...is to have modification to "strip all the Samsung customization"
so essentially...you will have to look into the option of custom ROMs.
do keep in mind that there are two main types of roms available...
Samsung based custom ROMs and Android Open Source Project (AOSP) ROMs.
Samsung based custom ROMs look virtually to be the same as the original one that you have on the phone when you first unbox it...but with small adjustments and tweaks to fix things that Samsung didnt fix, or forgot to fix...usually this means the same user experience but with better battery life, smoother UI transitions etc...generally further improving the same existing experience...
AOSP ROMs is totally different ROM experience in which many users are also interested in as it gives the user a more raw, more down to earth experience to Android...in addition, due to the fact that AOSP is more rudimentary in nature, it leads to faster rate of updates, fixes as well as modification due to the larger source tree as it relates to a wider range of AOSP compatible devices...
Galaxy Nexus is based on AOSP (without the Samsung Over-Lay) while this does typically mean a more leaner, low fat ROM, it does miss out on certain features such as in-box video playback, HDR camera functions, low motion high FPS camera functions, as well as other nifty and impressive functions...in which you would have actually paid the phone to do...
keep in mind...the Galaxy Nexus does have inferior hardware as far as most users will be concerned...
Samsung's "recent apps" can be shown by press and holding the middle physical button...
0semaj0 said:
custom ROM = modification
what you seem to have requested...is to have modification to "strip all the Samsung customization"
so essentially...you will have to look into the option of custom ROMs.
do keep in mind that there are two main types of roms available...
Samsung based custom ROMs and Android Open Source Project (AOSP) ROMs.
Samsung based custom ROMs look virtually to be the same as the original one that you have on the phone when you first unbox it...but with small adjustments and tweaks to fix things that Samsung didnt fix, or forgot to fix...usually this means the same user experience but with better battery life, smoother UI transitions etc...generally further improving the same existing experience...
AOSP ROMs is totally different ROM experience in which many users are also interested in as it gives the user a more raw, more down to earth experience to Android...in addition, due to the fact that AOSP is more rudimentary in nature, it leads to faster rate of updates, fixes as well as modification due to the larger source tree as it relates to a wider range of AOSP compatible devices...
Galaxy Nexus is based on AOSP (without the Samsung Over-Lay) while this does typically mean a more leaner, low fat ROM, it does miss out on certain features such as in-box video playback, HDR camera functions, low motion high FPS camera functions, as well as other nifty and impressive functions...in which you would have actually paid the phone to do...
keep in mind...the Galaxy Nexus does have inferior hardware as far as most users will be concerned...
Samsung's "recent apps" can be shown by press and holding the middle physical button...
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Tks buddy. The gNex is by no means a weak phone (for 99% of the population) but certainly the camera and screen leaves much to be desired. Call quality is quite iffy too, maybe b/c its microphones are too sensitive; I take calls on the road and the caller hears every car, pedestrian and bus that goes back. Sure it has dual microphones that does some level of noise cancellation but doesnt do a whole lot of good. The iPhone (esp 5) smokes the gNex here.
I'm not wild about all the Samsung functions but certainly having a better camera app w/ HDR built in, Smart Stay etc is pretty appealing. Samsung-based ROM it is then, if only they could bring back the stock JB look and feel...the cyan/B&W layout is very sleek.
Anyone here tried the LTE version (I9305)? Carriers here in HK are offering it for free w/ an unlimited LTE plan for about US50 a month. Bit of a no-brainer when it's the same effective price as the I9300 w/ more RAM ) but I wonder if there will be less custom ROMs developed, and how LTE battery life compares? I'm not a massive data hog looking to stream videos regularly but I do have to VPN home every few days
why not remove the bloatware?
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Question 3: Perhaps the most important question; I want to move onto a custom ROM b/c Samsung's slow at updating their firmware, and also b/c I want to get rid of the customization that comes w/ the S3 (namely TouchWiz and what they've done to the notification/status bars + menus etc). Is there a way to do this w/o going to a custom ROM?
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if you just want to remove the bloatware, have you considered simple rooting the stock firmware (not an upgrade and will block the samsung OTA update), then using a rooted explorer or adb or something (I personally use Titianium Backup to manage all my apps and backups) to delete the bloatware??
if you anything like me (who has been with android a while now) you'll have a set of 3rd party apps - so dont need the S Memo (love noteeverything) for example you can simple remove it from the phone. I did this for a few weeks before I moved to a custom ROM.
Heres a list of what is safe to remove...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqTvctlW89DtdC1qVUlLeVFTV3ZOdUtDclpBdVRQOUE&pli=1#gid=0
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Hello Guys,
total noob here so this could be a total noob question.
I was wondering if someone could explain the difference in a stock rom and a custome rom based on stock.
I s there real notable difference in performance?
And what difference does a kernel make to different roms?
I have a rooted s3 but would like to know more before playing with custom roms.
Thanks guys
The main advantage with custom roms is having other features and/or more customizibility options.
Of course there are usually some performance- and battery-tweaks aswell (usually to fix e.g. the Launcher redraw, tweak memory management, ...)
Read the description of the custom Rom's. The most popular ones are Omega and CM9, the latter not being a finished product and having several drawbacks in functionality (such as FM Radio, ...) but other nifty new features.
If you're still not sure if you should flash a custom ROM after reading... don't. However I recommend Omega if you should choose one.
Painless to use, very nice tweaks and -most important- continued and fast development and reaction to problems.
Kernels are more or less independend of the ROM and bring feature tweaks or additional low-level functionality such as the ability to use NTFS-formatted USB-Sticks or SD-Cards, and usually come with tweaks to save some more power in sleep mode while increasing responsiveness in active usage.
I prefer Siyah due to the dev being very active, around a long time and the kernel having lots of nice features.
Difference at present almost zero .
jje
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I've successfully unlocked my bootloader, flashed recovery and rooted my One using Superuser. It was pretty difficult and confusing to be honest. I got Titanium Back-up and froze all those stupid bloatware apps.
Now what can I do? I see there are two pretty good roms over here in the forums, but I'm not sure if I should grab one of those or wait for other better ones? Is there a "best" rom? Anything else I can do while waiting?
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I've successfully unlocked my bootloader, flashed recovery and rooted my One using Superuser. It was pretty difficult and confusing to be honest. I got Titanium Back-up and froze all those stupid bloatware apps.
Now what can I do? I see there are two pretty good roms over here in the forums, but I'm not sure if I should grab one of those or wait for other better ones? Is there a "best" rom? Anything else I can do while waiting?
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My advice? Take some time and just enjoy the phone. Its too soon for there to be
much going on in terms of ROMs and MODs. But they will come...
I generally get rid of the stock ROM on a new phone as soon as possible...but I have been
impressed with Sense 5 so far...gonna rock it for a while I think.
Check out the TrickDroid rom in the international HTC One forum. I've got that on my AT&T One, and it's amazing.
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Check out the TrickDroid rom in the international HTC One forum. I've got that on my AT&T One, and it's amazing.
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Appreciate the reply. I saw that one. I was having a hard time telling what exactly it does that is better than the stock rom? Anything you can tell me about it/ what you use it for?
Thanks.
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I've successfully unlocked my bootloader, flashed recovery and rooted my One using Superuser. It was pretty difficult and confusing to be honest. I got Titanium Back-up and froze all those stupid bloatware apps.
Now what can I do? I see there are two pretty good roms over here in the forums, but I'm not sure if I should grab one of those or wait for other better ones? Is there a "best" rom? Anything else I can do while waiting?
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One app I consider a must have for rooted devices is adblock plus. Get it and enjoy a faster, cleaner, and less data intensive internet experience. Just be aware that it's no longer part of the play store, and you'll have to sideload it.
jevange1 said:
Check out the TrickDroid rom in the international HTC One forum. I've got that on my AT&T One, and it's amazing.
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I've rooted devices before, but never installed a custom rom. Might be fun to give it a try.
However, just to make sure I won't do anything wrong...I replaced my recovery with TWRP when I first rooted.
I'm thinking I add the .zip rom to my root directory, make a backup with TWRP, backup my apps with titanium backup, then just flash the rom and restore my apps? Is it that simple?
Also, should I wipe the dalvik in addition to the regular data?
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Appreciate the reply. I saw that one. I was having a hard time telling what exactly it does that is better than the stock rom? Anything you can tell me about it/ what you use it for?
Thanks.
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Actually the list of improvements and added features in TrickDroid (and several other 1.29 based International ROMs) compared to the stock ROM is quite large, which very easily justifies the reason for bootloader unlocking/rooting your phone. Some of these improvements/mods are available over here in the AT&T dev section, and some are only available in International based ROMs (for now anyway)
Newer firmware than the AT&T base (1.29 compared to 1.26)
Supposedly the camera software in 1.29 is considerably better with things like improved processing for pictures; I haven't verified this for myself
That stupid permanent power saving toggle in the notification pulldown menu has been removed (replaced by a much nicer and smaller status bar toggle button)
The only-useful-maybe-one-time-but-is-always-there IME icon that pops up in the task bar (when the keyboard is being used) has been removed
For people that use Sense as their launcher, there are options to change the icon grid in the drawer to 4x5 / 5x6 instead of the screen wasting 3x4 default
There are very nice looking scrollable color toggle buttons in the pulldown menu for the normal things like wifi, bluetooth, GPS, flashlight, switching between silent mode & normal mode, etc. The toggles can be long-pressed to go directly into the options related to the function of that toggle
The stock messaging app has more options (custom background, colors for the conversation bubbles)
HTC has lowered the overall "boomsound" volume in 1.29 a bit, presumably to correct the popping sounds that people have experienced on earlier firmware builds including the AT&T 1.26 build. In my opinion, even with this lower volume, the phone is plenty loud and the speakers are still louder than my Galaxy S3. There are still ways to increase your volume back up again if you really need it (for example, the faux123 kernel has "faux sound" that can pump up the volume, among other audio tweaks)
There is a brightness mod available to lower the really high default automatic brightness settings a bit, to increase battery life
There is a mod available to temporarily turn on the display when an SMS message is received if the phone's display is off
There is a mod available to wake up the phone with the volume buttons (in addition to the power button of course)
There is a no-pin Exchange mod available for the stock email client that overrides the need for a pin # when connected to a corporate Exchange email system that requires phone security
There is a stock-based kernel available as a choice during the installation that maps the HTC logo as a menu key. Actually I think it really just maps a touch point on the display immediately above the HTC logo, but it is very close to the logo and actually works.
There is a mod available to remove the stupid 3-dot button in apps that still use a menu key. Obviously you would only want to use this mod when you've got something mapped as a menu button (either the back key long-press option or the HTC logo mapping mentioned previously)
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-There is a mod available to remove the stupid 3-dot button in apps that still use a menu key. Obviously you would only want to use this mod when you've got something mapped as a menu button (either the back key long-press option or the HTC logo mapping mentioned previously)
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Thanks for you post. My HTC One is on its way, and this is the ROM I plan to flash. Can you please elaborate on this last part?
Are you saying that there is a place on the settings menu to select a custom mapping for the menu button? and THEN you flash the mod? Doesn't that sound backwards? Wouldn't one flash the mod which would give you the option of a custom menu button mapping somewhere in the settings menu?
just be patience
it's take times to build a better rom for new device.maybe 3-4month.we can get perfect rom
Jmhunter22 said:
I've successfully unlocked my bootloader, flashed recovery and rooted my One using Superuser. It was pretty difficult and confusing to be honest. I got Titanium Back-up and froze all those stupid bloatware apps.
Now what can I do? I see there are two pretty good roms over here in the forums, but I'm not sure if I should grab one of those or wait for other better ones? Is there a "best" rom? Anything else I can do while waiting?
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I heard there's a mod to use the logo as a button. I would turn that into a MENU button.
http://www.androidcentral.com/use-logo-htc-one-extra-button-custom-kernel
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Actually the list of improvements and added features in TrickDroid (and several other 1.29 based International ROMs) compared to the stock ROM is quite large, which very easily justifies the reason for bootloader unlocking/rooting your phone. Some of these improvements/mods are available over here in the AT&T dev section, and some are only available in International based ROMs (for now anyway)
Newer firmware than the AT&T base (1.29 compared to 1.26)
HTC has lowered the overall "boomsound" volume in 1.29 a bit, presumably to correct the popping sounds that people have experienced on earlier firmware builds including the AT&T 1.26 build. In my opinion, even with this lower volume, the phone is plenty loud and the speakers are )
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I'm pretty sure the AT&T and DE phones all come with 1.29.
Teklock said:
I'm pretty sure the AT&T and DE phones all come with 1.29.
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My att One came with 1.26.
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jeeptrash said:
My att One came with 1.26.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
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Really? I thought for sure the AT&T One I had was 1.29. I have the DE now, and its 1.29.1540.3 I guess that would be another reason if you are paying full price to go with the DE.
Most current ATT update.
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HI ALL,
I installed PA 3.99 for Samsung S2(9100) to experience Android 4.3.
But I found some issues,
1. The video call feature is missing.
2. If possible to disable Halo and PieControl, in fact, the screen side of 9100 is too small, these two attractive features will affect my input keyword and bring bad experience.
I saw some other ROM provides a enable/disable swtich for this....
3. Some other attractive Samsung device related features are not ported....is possbile to port them in this ROM, such as Swipe in call log(call or message), and Motion(all motion is not supported)
Hantsy
hantsy said:
HI ALL,
I installed PA 3.99 for Samsung S2(9100) to experience Android 4.3.
But I found some issues,
1. The video call feature is missing.
2. If possible to disable Halo and PieControl, in fact, the screen side of 9100 is too small, these two attractive features will affect my input keyword and bring bad experience.
I saw some other ROM provides a enable/disable swtich for this....
3. Some other attractive Samsung device related features are not ported....is possbile to port them in this ROM, such as Swipe in call log(call or message), and Motion(all motion is not supported)
Hantsy
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Samsung apps can't be ported,as they require special Samsung framework,You can port only a few apps,like Note or Calculator.Swipe to call and Motion therefore will never be supported.
GamingDj said:
Samsung apps can't be ported,as they require special Samsung framework,You can port only a few apps,like Note or Calculator.Swipe to call and Motion therefore will never be supported.
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Thanks for your explanation.
Personally I like the UI of PA 3.99(Android 4.3) and some apps, esp the new Gmail interface.
But it will loss any device specific features .
Regards
Hantsy
hantsy said:
Thanks for your explanation.
Personally I like the UI of PA 3.99(Android 4.3) and some apps, esp the new Gmail interface.
But it will loss any device specific features .
Regards
Hantsy
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Yes....you can use a custom stock ROM,like Biftor ROM it can be customized in many ways.
If you want to report bugs, do that in the specific thread, so the developer can work on it. But first make sure if the problems are already know, or read the bug list. There's no need for this kind of thread
I'm new here, and I would like some suggestion about what to do with my S3.
I'm currently using Android 4.3 (not rooted yet), and after reading several posts saying that having very little free ram shouldn't affect the device performance, I'm a bit confused.
In many cases after leaving an app, the icons in the home screen take a while to redraw, sometimes 5 sec or so, so I always have to wait patiently before opening another app.
What would be the best solution to speed this up?
Should I root my phone and install a custom ROM or is there any other tricks? I've already optimized the best I could from what I read in this forum (turning off animation, transition, and all those non necessary Samsung features like those automatic adjustments.
Thanks for your suggestions.
CyrilleBriegel said:
I'm new here, and I would like some suggestion about what to do with my S3.
I'm currently using Android 4.3 (not rooted yet), and after reading several posts saying that having very little free ram shouldn't affect the device performance, I'm a bit confused.
In many cases after leaving an app, the icons in the home screen take a while to redraw, sometimes 5 sec or so, so I always have to wait patiently before opening another app.
What would be the best solution to speed this up?
Should I root my phone and install a custom ROM or is there any other tricks? I've already optimized the best I could from what I read in this forum (turning off animation, transition, and all those non necessary Samsung features like those automatic adjustments.
Thanks for your suggestions.
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Use custom kernel like boeffla, uninstall bloatware, trim your nand periodically, preferably o.c. Cpu and you are good to go
Hey all,
Here's some of the things that i wish comes to custom developing roms from miui -
1.Full screen gestures - honestly, i didn't thing i would get hooked to this after using it just for 3days (root limit!) and now i miss it more everyday (i always first swipe right to left only to realize i have to reach down to back button.)
Used & tried all sorts of apps like T- swipe gestures & Xda's own -Navigation gesture app, none of them can satisfy that animation & control.
2. Both wifi & hotspot on simultaneously
Seriously, this is one of the first things that shocked me, coming from a Yu Yureka, this thing literally surprised me, imagine having a repeater/receiver/broadcast at the same time(now i know it's not a big deal for some of u, but in some areas where there is a weak network and u need that wifi speed on both ur laptop & mobile, this thing is a blessing.)
3.otp copy right on notification
Small thing, but crucial for fast work
4.lock screen's quick animation
Ok this is one those things that miui did in order to look fast in unlocking (which it is!) but on casual custom ROM, all default animations make it look slow, & changing speed of such from develpment causes other animations (such as music visualisation!) to seem like they are lagging or catching up.
5.sim card minute control
dual sim exists for one good one ok ( or one personal & business) and some one doesn't have any network & simply becomes a dead weight for the battery (checking for network every 5secs!) this thing also makes what we as a control freaks more aligned to our quest to total control of phone? (atleast last is true for me, it annoys the hell out for me.)
So, u guys must be thinking, why not switch to debloated miui & use other developments ?
First because there is no 9.0 pie in it( new phones needs latest and greatest for me!)
Second, i hate miui UI and after been using stock-ish rom for past five years(in yureka!) u can't blame me for those clean animations & material design.
These are some of the things i hope i share is common with u all, as if this agrees with u, just show it to ur near & dearest developers & hope they agree too.?
I'm Tanmay Dwivedi, and i'm happy to be a part of the poco f1's family!
P.S add more features & things which u think should be in custom roms!
IR face unlock is all that's stopped me flashing a custom ROM. I'm hooked
For the gestures, https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/themes/gestures-custom-rom-t3855076
Daniktheboss said:
For the gestures, https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/themes/gestures-custom-rom-t3855076
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Yep, saw them in play store and using it right now, thanks for reply!
thesoupthief said:
IR face unlock is all that's stopped me flashing a custom ROM. I'm hooked
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I doubt xiaomi will easily give up its proprietary drivers to be used in custom roms, but this is xda, anything can happen here!~
LoneRanger007 said:
I doubt xiaomi will easily give up its proprietary drivers to be used in custom roms, but this is xda, anything can happen here!~
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Fingers crossed