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So does anyone know how to successfully run the new Fennec pre alpha on a non rooted Droid Eris on 2.1.?
no, but in the brief article I read it said you need a droid or nexus one
its not really possible, it has major force close issues.
I downloaded the apk and instaled it on 2.1 root and experinced fc after a few moments of running. It sucks...really want to try it out.
Running it on droid, its nothing to call home about.
with me being on aloysius 2.0v6, and all my apps instaled, I could not even make room to try and install a 10mb apk... it's actually the one and only true time i wanted apps2sd on the eris.
are you all using this build? http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/firefox-now-available-for-android-2-0-and-above-still-at-pre-al/ it seems like the newest one out there.
Yay I'm running non-rooted Droid Eris 2.1 leakv3 and the latest pre-alpha just runs for a second and then crashes every time I run it, any fixes?
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Yay I'm running non-rooted Droid Eris 2.1 leakv3 and the latest pre-alpha just runs for a second and then crashes every time I run it, any fixes?
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nope. i mean this is pre-alpha software. what were you expecting? I honestly dont plan on using fennec. opera does just fine and loads way faster than anything else ive tried. why fix what aint broken
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nope. i mean this is pre-alpha software. what were you expecting? I honestly dont plan on using fennec. opera does just fine and loads way faster than anything else ive tried. why fix what aint broken
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Wait, your saying Opera, of all the browsers is good? That's by far the worst mobile browser available!!!! Not saying Fennec will be better.........Maybe I just need to get used to Opera, but that's just my opinion..
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Wait, your saying Opera, of all the browsers is good? That's by far the worst mobile browser available!!!! Not saying Fennec will be better.........Maybe I just need to get used to Opera, but that's just my opinion..
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Whats wrong with it? It loads incredibly fast, has a nice UI, offers a nice homepage launcher, etc. I think it's a hell of a browser, from what I understand they load most of the page on their end and send the finished product to you. The only complaint i have is lack of multitouch but that is in no way a deal breaker.
If you don't believe the speed difference a/b between the stock browser and opera with androidcentral.com
Last time I used opera, it was just too clunky and navigating through the menus was a big pain. Im currently using skyfire 2.0 and it does the same thing with loading the page through its servers first to take the load off the phone. It hd some really nice features as well. I highly suggest everyone try it. There was a good tutorial on phandroid.com about all the features. Check it out
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Last time I used opera, it was just too clunky and navigating through the menus was a big pain. Im currently using skyfire 2.0 and it does the same thing with loading the page through its servers first to take the load off the phone. It hd some really nice features as well. I highly suggest everyone try it. There was a good tutorial on phandroid.com about all the features. Check it out
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Just downloaded on a whim after reading the article on engadget. Seems pretty decent so far, I'll try it out for the next week and see what I think.
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Just downloaded on a whim after reading the article on engadget. Seems pretty decent so far, I'll try it out for the next week and see what I think.
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Cool, I think its pretty neat.
Using Skyfire as well..it is way better than Dolphin,stock, Xscope and Opera. It is fast and somehow it remembers your bookmarks. Got real tired of saving bookmarks/favorites and losing them when you installed a new OS
Just got myself the Thunderbolt a few weeks back and loving it. Battery life is spotty because of 4G but I'm able to get through my day with just 3G just fine.
Just had a few things to ask you guys.
1) Has anyone had problems having their Contacts/People link to Facebook properly? I've tried unlinking FB, FB for Sense, and then redoing it. I have told both accounts to sync to contacts and in the Facebook application it is set to sync contacts. If I go to my online directoy all my facebook friends show up but it seems that the only contacts that get linked in my contacts is the people who have their phone listed online or something. Only like 5 out of a 100 and some change have it. But then under messages different people will have a picture next to their name but not in contacts I'm not sure what's going on here.
2) I'm also thinking of rooting my phone. I hear das bamf 1.7 is the way to go. What's the best/easiest way to root the TB? I've never rooted a phone before but I'm pretty competant with technology I think I could handle it.
Thanks.
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Easiest way honestly is the adb method just take it slow and check MD5 sums. I am waiting for.Cyanogenmod 7 for tb the pre alpha is good... Missing a few things like data. I personally avoid the HTC sense its a battery drainer also its bot that visually appealing.
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The manual ADB way is the way to go. Use the method jcase put together. There's others floating around here and there that won't work on newer firmware. I'm partial to sense ROMs, mainly Chingy's ROMs like The Perfect Storm and Gingeritus. Very fast for sense ROMs. As for kernels, I'm all about ziggy's. You won't find a thread for them here. As far as I can tell, his are the fastest kernels I've ever run on the thunderbolt in very noticable ways.
Xaikar said:
Easiest way honestly is the adb method just take it slow and check MD5 sums. I am waiting for.Cyanogenmod 7 for tb the pre alpha is good... Missing a few things like data. I personally avoid the HTC sense its a battery drainer also its bot that visually appealing.
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+1 on that. Adb may seem daunting, but just a quick "how to root thunderbolt" search will give you a helpful step by step guide with various links to step by step threads as well. I did this method on a small netbook, and it couldn't have been more straightforward. Just be careful and pay attention to your checksums
Set from my Thunderbolt running das BAMF remix 1.7 froyo
I read through the other threads regarding various issues with the recent ICS update.
Am I the only one who DOESN't have issues? I installed the update about an hour ago, without wiping application data/cache or a factory reset, and I have tons of apps installed, including Google+.
Performance for me all around is much better. Has anyone else had the same experience?
No issues for me either.
After using for most of the morning i feel like battery life is less robust. Down to 85% with really only moderate use for a couple of hours. Was way better on Honeycomb. Will give it a few days and see if things even out before i draw any conclusions though.
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no issues here either, aside from me losing root and being too lazy to downgrade to redo it.
it's much much faster, and turning on the 2d gpu accel in the settings has made it seem even faster than when it first booted on ics.
browsing through stock browser is fluid and fast, no typing lag (!!!) and the UI is much improved.
very happy overall.
oh yea, and i really like the black hole lwp.
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I read through the other threads regarding various issues with the recent ICS update.
Am I the only one who DOESN't have issues? I installed the update about an hour ago, without wiping application data/cache or a factory reset, and I have tons of apps installed, including Google+.
Performance for me all around is much better. Has anyone else had the same experience?
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No issues that I can see. Either ICS or the camera firmware update really impved my camera function. Overall all seems much zippier. The default Android browser seems MUCH better - enough that I uninstalled Dolphin. Love the one-touch task closer widget.
Two thumbs up.
No you aren't the only one, people usually post about problems more then people without any problems.
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No you aren't the only one, people usually post about problems more then people without any problems.
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This. In fact look into the thread with the poll from the people who updated to ICS. Most people are happy with it.
Yes stock browser is faster but however Opera Mobile still seems to be faster in some aspects.I can't even see how to add a bookmark in stock browser. It was there at 1st but haven't seen the option lately.Dolphin is OK but now with the stock browser & Opera,I no longer need Dolphin.
No issues here either. Everything works so much smoother! I've yet to enable 2D acceleration, so I'm going to try that once I get home. (I know it's only for pre-ICS apps that are not enable by default)
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No issues here either. Everything works so much smoother! I've yet to enable 2D acceleration, so I'm going to try that once I get home. (I know it's only for pre-ICS apps that are not enable by default)
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I tried it but some apps wont work with it enabled. The Revision 3 app will hang on the loading screen for example. It does make other apps very smooth though a bit buggy.
no issues, in fact I am dictating this message using the new google voice keyboard in real time. the whole operation of the tablet just seems so much more polished and smoother. It's definitely faster, for example, tapping the applications switch button instantaneously brings up thumbnails of all the running applications.
Wow, is truly an enjoyable device to use. Kudos to Asus for getting the update out... Certainly pulled it together a lot faster than a lot of the other big corporations.
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Mine is definately running much smoother and quicker. Haven't had any issues. I'm still playing with settings and, also lost my root and am too lazy to downgrade to get it back. I'm very happy with ICS. Having the folders created by combining icons is probably my favorite feature so far.
I just got my prime today, so I rooted, updated, and re-rooted. I have no reference to how it was on HC except for the few minutes spent rooting
But ICS seems pretty good so far. GTA3 and minecraft work great!
Can opera browser now play youtube/flash video's? On the one I had it would only play the sound, but no video.
I got two freezes and reboots already, one inside Folder Organizer and second browsing all apps. But everything else is smooth and faster.
Mines flying like a bat out of hell no issues so far where do you get the split keyboard?
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Can opera browser now play youtube/flash video's? On the one I had it would only play the sound, but no video.
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I still have to try out different sites but so far No. right after I updated to ICS last night there was an immediate update for adobe flash 11. it seems tl make flash in stock and dolphin HD browser slot better n smoother. still testing out opera mobile.
People messing around with developer settings that don't really know what its doing is asking for trouble. you might load up an app or something that don't agree with what you enabled and BAM, the Prime locks up..lmfao
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After using for most of the morning i feel like battery life is less robust. Down to 85% with really only moderate use for a couple of hours. Was way better on Honeycomb. Will give it a few days and see if things even out before i draw any conclusions though.
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Mine has been unplugged for just under 8 hours and I'm at 38%. I'd say it is definitely draining the battery more... but it is a bit too early to tell. All I did today was surf the web, snapped a few pictures, tried out the photo editing, and played a video for 2 minutes.
Overall the tablet is MUCH snappier and responsive! The stock browser amazed me as well! I love the clarify of the new font that was introduced in ICS.... it was a much needed change.
As far as OP goes, device runs better n faster than ever. I only have one gripe. ICS has seemed tl nerf 3rd. party tethering apps like Wireless tether or Barnacle. Wireless tether app is an infrastructure method of tethering but now the prime doesn't even recognize it. of you use wifi analyzer, the tether will show up as an ad hoc network instead, which its not. plus when youbteybto connect from there, it says Ad hoc not supported by Android yet.
Just got another reboot surfing the web thru Dolphin.
This will likely be a long post, so I'll start off with short summary:
After years of being excited about the android OS, I've now grown very tired of it and can't find a good solution to solve the issues.
Thanks in advance for taking the time to read and provide feedback and insight.
Background
I've been a web developer for ~15 years, even worked on a very popular android tablet before it was released. I currently have the title of "SDE" but I also deal with a lot of UI/UX work. I'm pretty tech savvy, love control, love to hack (eg my main machines are hackintoshes). I bought an EVO 3D shortly after it came out as it was dual core and had the most RAM. A friend is an android enthusiast and it sure seemed like android, while lacking polish, offered the flexibility and community for me to be able to have the level of polish I want.
Problems
Over the past year+ I haven't had much spare time. While other phones on other carriers are easy to root and mod, the EVO 3D on Sprint has been a PITA. My recent attempt at a custom PRL was a great example of how this "open" phone was more difficult to work with than a "locked" iPhone. There's been no easy way to root this phone and turn s-off. Yeah, I know there's two methods but both of them require more time than I have right now at any given time. And the bigger issue for me is that they're much bigger kludges than I think an "open" OS should be.
I waited for the ICS OTA update and am disappointed. While it solved some issues, it created more. And I feel like I've got both arms tied behind my back since almost any fix requires root. I hate reading that some of the fixes are in jelly bean, yet there's no easy way for me to upgrade.
Specific issues
- Llama doesn't work in ICS. I <3 Llama
- Battery usage is often horrible - yesterday I checked my email a couple times and the battery lasted all of 6 hours. I tried killing all tasks, but those who say that's useless since froyo are right. This issue keeps happening... it's like the CPU gets stuck at 100% for some reason.
- Network sucks. I don't understand why I can get 10Mb down and 2Mb up with speedtest.net, but the responsiveness of any app that uses the internet is sluggish. Even with my own tests on my own web servers, it' still sluggish. And latency is fairly low... seems like there might be a lot of packet loss for some reason.
- Camera sucks. The camera on my wife's EVO 4G works better but still sucks. All I've found here are threads confirming how much it sucks.
- App specific issues:
-- I have my sync settings set not to link contacts with LinkedIn, but it still frequently asks me anyway.
-- Contacts are duplicating: I had them all on my phone, and all synced via my gmail account. Then the other day it decides they're all different and duplicates my contacts.
- It unlocks itself. Sometimes I pull my phone out of my pocket and the phone is unlocked, even though I had a PIN set. I can use it for a minute or two, then suddenly I get greeted with a lock screen (or sometimes just half a lock screen.)
- I don't like having to set a lock screen in order to change the wifi password. Seems really odd to me. It wasn't like that in gingerbread.
I also have a hard time finding information. Seems like half of what I find doesn't apply to the EVO 3D, though may work for many other phones (even other HTC phones) and the bulk of the rest no longer works because of some other issue (or is just outdated.)
Anyway, I could go on, but I think you get the idea. If I had time, I'd see what I could to do contribute to a ROM project, but that just doesn't seem like it's in the cards right now. Am I just not a good fit for android? Is the bigger issue this phone? Would I actually be able to solve the above issues if I did go ahead and root it fully... perhaps with the wire method?
Thanks
Well I understand where you're coming from. Honestly, its personal preference. From my experience, once I went s-off and fully rooted it, it was so much better. A lot of the custom roms here are fantastic and blow stock out of the water. You can do so much more with root, and easily fix all of the problems that you have. Every. Single. One. It's all about just trying it, and if you don't like it, you can easily just try something new, that's the glory of it
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Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
blame the phone manufacturers and the carriers, not android... none of your problems actually seem like android ones
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Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
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Take a look at mpgrimm2's guide thread. That has a lot of good information.
ramjet73
snokarver said:
Thanks for the reassurance. I went ahead and tried the wire trick here http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-h...c-evo-3d-using-wire-trick-juopunutbear-s-off/
Unfortunately, when I run ControlBear it tells me "device has no root!!"
I used the HTC method to unlock it. I'll keep digging... but this is part of what frustrates me about android.
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After you htcdev unlock, you need to flash a stock rom with root, I would try my rom, common sense v1.5 (stock) its in the link in my siggy, I did it on that and it worked just fine. Or you can flash a stock rooted rom that Virus posted up, its somewhere in the dev forum, once that's flashed you're good to go
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Thanks. What's the easiest way to do a full backup of my existing ROM so I can easily restore if I want to? Seems like every method I've found requires root.
Under all the glitz, Android runs on a Linux kernel.
Linux is very secure in that only the "root" account can make changes to vital system processes.
So yes, gaining root access is vital to making changes to your android device.
IMO, it is too easy to gain root in Android. It should be harder so all these noobs won't be on here f'ing up their phones.
sudo passwd root
I use *nix all day long. Was just running commands to modify permissions, using sudo, for git. Even in OS X gaining root access is fairly easy. But what you're telling me is, the only way to backup my ROM is to wipe it first with a ROM that is rooted? (In other words, no way to backup my ROM.)
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Thanks. What's the easiest way to do a full backup of my existing ROM so I can easily restore if I want to? Seems like every method I've found requires root.
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If you find the Su binaries, you can flash it via recovery via fastboot, right over the stock rom that you're running RIGHT NOW. I would google it, I don't have one off hand that I can attach for you.
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I found the su binaries, but haven't had any luck getting them installed. Every walkthrough I've found doesn't work. Tried to put a recovery on it, but that also won't go. One method requires root. The instructions for another said three button method but that doesn't seem to work on this phone...
You have to unlock the bootloader before trying to install recovery.
There are a bunch of guides. www.google.com
sudo passwd root
*sigh*
I have done the official HTC unlock. I know there's a ton of guides out there, and I'm usually pretty good at using google, but I have yet to find one that works. 90% of them are incomplete, outdated, assume you're already fully rooted or have a custom ROM. The majority of the time I find people posting the same problems I'm running into, without any answers. I've tried no less than four different methods (found via google) today to install recovery, but none of them have worked.
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I have done the official HTC unlock. I know there's a ton of guides out there, and I'm usually pretty good at using google, but I have yet to find one that works. 90% of them are incomplete, outdated, assume you're already fully rooted or have a custom ROM. The majority of the time I find people posting the same problems I'm running into, without any answers. I've tried no less than four different methods (found via google) today to install recovery, but none of them have worked.
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Have you tried mpgrimm2's guide for flashing recovery and superuser? It's part of a larger thread that covers rooting, S-OFF, bootloaders and other stuff for the Evo 3D and I know he works hard at keeping it up-to-date.
I suggested that earlier in this thread, and if you can't find the answers you are looking for there I'd be surprised.
ramjet73
Thanks for the insistance on that thread. I tried CWM using that guide and it didn't work (wouldn't ever boot into CWM even though everything appeared to install ok). I tried 4ext using a 4ext guide and it didn't work. I tried 4ext using the same guide as you linked to which references CWM, and it did work.
BusyBox is saying it may not be rooted, but RootChecker says it is. At least now I think I'm far enough along to make a backup of the stock ROM. Thanks much
Launching BusyBox some more it seems to work fine. So far I've:
- Make a backup of the stock ROM
- Deleted the crapware
- Backed up my apps with TB
- Used SetCPU to lower the clockspeed when idle. Now I'm under 100ma when idle. Pre ICS I had a hard time getting under 300ma.
Thanks a bunch. Things are really looking up.
I'm thinking about buying a new phone I currently have the pixel XL and I'm conflicted between the S9+ and the pixel2/3 so I came here to see what the S9 is like I loved Samsung when I had the S5 but it had some problems and I was curious if they were fixed
1. Does the keyboard lag insanely after about a few months?
2 can you use something other than TouchWiz on Samsung?
3. Is it easy to root?
4. How is the development for it? Is there a lot of development as far roms and kernels etc etc?
5. can you unlock the bootloader?
6. how is the speed and camera?
7. would you recommend it?
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I'm thinking about buying a new phone I currently have the pixel XL and I'm conflicted between the S9+ and the pixel2/3 so I came here to see what the S9 is like I loved Samsung when I had the S5 but it had some problems and I was curious if they were fixed
1. Does the keyboard lag insanely after about a few months?
2 can you use something other than TouchWiz on Samsung?
3. Is it easy to root?
4. How is the development for it? Is there a lot of development as far roms and kernels etc etc?
5. can you unlock the bootloader?
6. how is the speed and camera?
7. would you recommend it?
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Ususaly i like to assist users if i can, but now i say that you better do your own homework and learn something along the way. All your questions can be easily answered if you use XDA and Google or YouTube.
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I'm thinking about buying a new phone I currently have the pixel XL and I'm conflicted between the S9+ and the pixel2/3 so I came here to see what the S9 is like I loved Samsung when I had the S5 but it had some problems and I was curious if they were fixed
1. Does the keyboard lag insanely after about a few months?
2 can you use something other than TouchWiz on Samsung?
3. Is it easy to root?
4. How is the development for it? Is there a lot of development as far roms and kernels etc etc?
5. can you unlock the bootloader?
6. how is the speed and camera?
7. would you recommend it?
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1) That happens?
2)Yes, there a plenty of custom launchers, but its not TouchWiz anymore and its far closer to stock google. Well, as close to stock as Samsung goes. Think HTC Sense and then add a bit more stuff to it. Just a little.
3)Not tried, but I would imagine theres a way to do it written in the forums
4)Its still a pretty new phone (only just a couple of month I think?) So I imagine people are working on plenty. Keep checking back, I suppose, would be my advice
5)Never tried on a Samsung. I just know that you can flash things either using ODIN, or using TWRP if you have that flashed.
6)Both amazing. A lot of people say that the camera doesnt quite match up to the Pixel 2, but for me the difference is so little its not even worth caring about.
7) Yes.
Think so far is the best phone you can buy. If I need to point out a flaw for me and a few some could be the battery but no stopped apps and slow downs or heat up nice and smooth love there launcher swipe up and app draw pops up nice.
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1) That happens?
2)Yes, there a plenty of custom launchers, but its not TouchWiz anymore and its far closer to stock google. Well, as close to stock as Samsung goes. Think HTC Sense and then add a bit more stuff to it. Just a little.
3)Not tried, but I would imagine theres a way to do it written in the forums
4)Its still a pretty new phone (only just a couple of month I think?) So I imagine people are working on plenty. Keep checking back, I suppose, would be my advice
5)Never tried on a Samsung. I just know that you can flash things either using ODIN, or using TWRP if you have that flashed.
6)Both amazing. A lot of people say that the camera doesnt quite match up to the Pixel 2, but for me the difference is so little its not even worth caring about.
7) Yes.
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Yeah my s5 was SO laggy no matter what I did, clearing the cache factory resetting etc etc nothing helped it, I would click to bring up the keyboard and it would take a minute or two to come up and that's not an exaggeration lol the same thing happened with my girlfriend who had the same phone, I looked it up and it looks like some people have the same issue on the s8 I figure it might not be enough time for it to appear on the 9+ but thanks for the info
I saw awhile ago that Samsung refuses to allow things to be flashed on their devices unless they're signed by them like roms and things so that effectively killed Odin, I'm not sure if they changed it or if people found a workaround or not, I guess I'll just have to surf the forums a little bit to find out
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Yeah my s5 was SO laggy no matter what I did, clearing the cache factory resetting etc etc nothing helped it, I would click to bring up the keyboard and it would take a minute or two to come up and that's not an exaggeration lol the same thing happened with my girlfriend who had the same phone, I looked it up and it looks like some people have the same issue on the s8 I figure it might not be enough time for it to appear on the 9+ but thanks for the info
I saw awhile ago that Samsung refuses to allow things to be flashed on their devices unless they're signed by them like roms and things so that effectively killed Odin, I'm not sure if they changed it or if people found a workaround or not, I guess I'll just have to surf the forums a little bit to find out
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Get yourself a package disabler (root is not required for some) from the Play Store if you buy this phone, you can disable a lot of services and preinstalled apps to keep your phone fast and snappy.