So one thing I really liked about my iPhone was the ability to push audio through the charge port into my truck's head unit (radio) while charging. The head unit has a usb port on the front and it charges my phone, and if I put the phone into storage mode, the head unit can read the storage on my phone. Now I want to push audio from apps like Google Play Music and iheart radio. Is this possible? I'm rooted.
Also on a side note, since I am rooted, can I update OTA without looking root? I used the steps from galaxys3root.com.
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joshbgosh10592 said:
So one thing I really liked about my iPhone was the ability to push audio through the charge port into my truck's head unit (radio) while charging. The head unit has a usb port on the front and it charges my phone, and if I put the phone into storage mode, the head unit can read the storage on my phone. Now I want to push audio from apps like Google Play Music and iheart radio. Is this possible? I'm rooted.
Also on a side note, since I am rooted, can I update OTA without looking root? I used the steps from galaxys3root.com.
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Sorry bud but most USB head units are mass storage or iPhone only. I'd invest on a Bluetooth headunit with audio streaming profile like the Sony MEX-BT4000P.
Get a windshield mount (had a factory one for my Atrix, loved it) and Bluetooth that bad boy. You'll also get cool stuff like car phone answering and if you use Vlingo in car you can made heads turn.
This feature will come with jelly bean
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That is awesome!! But until that time comes, is there a way to do that on ICS?
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I've been trying to get this to work for about a week now. The guys at my local car audio place are just as frustrated as I am.
I even tried using the OTG connection, no dice.
Supposedly some of the new Sony units support MTP, but then you're using Sony (which I guess doesn't have a great reputation, I'm kind of new to this whole thing).
CM will probably get Mass Storage enabled at some point, but that still isn't an ideal solution.
Jelly Bean will offer true USB audio streaming, but from what I've read the device you are streaming to will also have to support it. Whether that support can be added via a firmware update or will require new hardware is something I haven't been able to figure out yet.
This is all very annoying since part of the reason I got my S3 was to finally upgrade the sound in my car. I know I can use an Aux or Bluetooth connection in the meantime, but if the Jelly Bean tech requires new hardware it will be a pain to sell my old hardware and re-install the new.
I guess at this point it's just waiting to see when/if headunits will support the Jelly Bean audio streaming.
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Sorry bud but most USB head units are mass storage or iPhone only. I'd invest on a Bluetooth headunit with audio streaming profile like the Sony MEX-BT4000P.
Get a windshield mount (had a factory one for my Atrix, loved it) and Bluetooth that bad boy. You'll also get cool stuff like car phone answering and if you use Vlingo in car you can made heads turn.
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The thing is, I don't have the money to get a new head unit.. I could just connect the aux to the unit. I also forgot to mention I have a Sony Xplod (Not sure of the model right now, but it's about 2 years old.)
I think I'm just forced to connecting aux and usb to keep it charged on my trips..
Mass Storage has been enabled for the International S3, so it's likely it will for the US version soon. That should solve a lot of your problems. Though as I said above, UMS is still not an ideal solution (but far superior to Aux or Bluetooth).
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I've been trying to get this to work for about a week now. The guys at my local car audio place are just as frustrated as I am.
I even tried using the OTG connection, no dice.
Supposedly some of the new Sony units support MTP, but then you're using Sony (which I guess doesn't have a great reputation, I'm kind of new to this whole thing).
CM will probably get Mass Storage enabled at some point, but that still isn't an ideal solution.
Jelly Bean will offer true USB audio streaming, but from what I've read the device you are streaming to will also have to support it. Whether that support can be added via a firmware update or will require new hardware is something I haven't been able to figure out yet.
This is all very annoying since part of the reason I got my S3 was to finally upgrade the sound in my car. I know I can use an Aux or Bluetooth connection in the meantime, but if the Jelly Bean tech requires new hardware it will be a pain to sell my old hardware and re-install the new.
I guess at this point it's just waiting to see when/if headunits will support the Jelly Bean audio streaming.
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I'm a noob when it comes to Andriod.. I am a recovering iPhone user and do not know what most of the acronyms mean. I've looked around on google and can't find what they mean lol. OTG, MTP, and CM, what do they mean?
Also, is there a way to hurry up the process of me being verified for my new user account? The waiting 5 minutes is getting old... Thanks
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I'm a noob when it comes to Andriod.. I am a recovering iPhone user and do not know what most of the acronyms mean. I've looked around on google and can't find what they mean lol. OTG, MTP, and CM, what do they mean?
Also, is there a way to hurry up the process of me being verified for my new user account? The waiting 5 minutes is getting old... Thanks
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Once you pass 10 posts the 5 minute limit will be lowered to 2 minutes.
OTG = On the Go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
MTP = Media Transfer Protocol, as opposed to Mass Storage. I'm not clear on the reason for using it since it seems like UMS is more useful in almost every way.
CM = Cyanogenmod. The most popular and widespread Android ROM.
Ahh ok thank you! I should be getting close to that haha. And I guess UMS is something like Universal Mass Storage?
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Hey Guys,
I figured you fine chaps at XDA would be the best to ask this compatibility question:
I'm planning on building a new car audio system but I'm concerned that the head unit I pick up will not support the Vibrant via USB. This is mostly because when I used it with my PC at home for the first time, I had to download Samsung USB drivers to get it to work. I can't imagine most head units having these drivers stock. Does anyone use their Vibrant with a head unit via USB?
Otherwise I may just have to wait until Parrot releases their Android powered unit and pray that it supports my phone.
http://www.parrot.com/asteroid
Thanks for the help.
I actually just bought a new head unit that has a front usb port. Will test it after my nap. Yes, my nap and damn sure better be a good one.
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What features are you, specifically, looking to use? If it's just to play mp3 files, I've read that this can work if you connect as mass storage.
For other audio functions, I'd just get a head unit with an auxillary port.
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I believe it will only play audio through the jack. If the part you have is usb im sure there are adapters you can get say at frys or radio shack.
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Depends on what you need if it is the what is on the phone you need to access then, you can go and change the setting to mass storage and your phone will be seen as a flash drive. If you want to integrate the phone into the console system, you would need something that allowed that to happen, my Infiniti does do that to a point but then, I had to change some things around to make it to my liking. Don't know if that is helpful but it is more information
Cheers
If all you want to do is listen to music files that are on the sd card, I just tried it out and it works fine for that.
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Yep, I'm just looking to play my mp3's from the SD card. I want to avoid the 3.5mm connection because I'm a bit of an audiophile. Thanks for all of the help guys.
Just get a Bluetooth Head unit, I use my vibrant to play music and talk on phone through bluetooth all day long...
best part...NO WIRES
I have had major issues with mounting as mass storage to my head unit. I was able to do this with my original Droid. My Thunderbolt gave me issues but when I flashed a ROM that did now auto mount a virtual cd drive it worked without any issues.
I have not been able to get my bionic to work. I have a ROM but it still mounts a cd drive as well as both SD cards.
Is there a way to stop the CD drive from mounting?
At this point when I mount the head unit picks it up but then loops through the sd card.
I am thinking it is not the head unit because I can connect either of my old phones and they will work without any issue.
whats up guys, this seemed the best place to post this since it doesnt pertain to any of the devices listed here. i have the Dynavin Android unit (www .dynavin .com / android.php) in my car and im having an issue that so far it seems only 2 other users have had.
with this unit there are 2 "sides", 2 different computers in one is guess you can say. the am/fm radio, CD/DVD, bluetooth, etc is all completely separate from the android OS side. whats happening to me is ALL sound played on android gets distorted, slow, and staticy. i have reinstalled the firmware numerous times, used different SD cards, i have tried different apps, it happens with music from the SD card and internet music, it even happens with the sounds when u adjust the volume. nobody on our huge thread at e46fanatics can figure it out and only 1 or 2 other people have had the issue.
the weird part is that many times it will play fine for a few minutes and then start to slow down, and even rebooting doesnt help at that point. im thinking maybe it could be overheating, but even with the a/c blasting in the car it happens. and the radio/cd part is completely unaffected.
thoughts?
nobody has any idea? its android 2.2
geez tough crowd
ANY ideas?
dammit....
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Can you post a link to the beemer forum thread?
Kind of sounds like a faulty unit though...
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Can you post a link to the beemer forum thread?
Kind of sounds like a faulty unit though...
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thats what im starting to think, hope not though. heres the thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=839753
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thats what im starting to think, hope not though. heres the thread: http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=839753
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Wow, that's a sizeable thread!
Looks an interesting device. What troubles me is that it appears to be an intermittent issue. I'd agree that heat could be a culprit, possibly - I'd be tempted to try running it out of the car for an extended period of time and see if that helps.
You could also try OSMonitor or similar and see if you can monitor internal temperature. If the ROM is rooted, you could even try under or overclocking it and see if that helps.
Car audio I can cope with, but Android debugging not so much - you could try doing a logcat (assuming you can hook up via USB) and see if it gives you useful info when it's freezing up.
I have to say, this is screaming out for you to install Torque on it and a bluetooth ODBII scanner...!
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Wow, that's a sizeable thread!
Looks an interesting device. What troubles me is that it appears to be an intermittent issue. I'd agree that heat could be a culprit, possibly - I'd be tempted to try running it out of the car for an extended period of time and see if that helps.
You could also try OSMonitor or similar and see if you can monitor internal temperature. If the ROM is rooted, you could even try under or overclocking it and see if that helps.
Car audio I can cope with, but Android debugging not so much - you could try doing a logcat (assuming you can hook up via USB) and see if it gives you useful info when it's freezing up.
I have to say, this is screaming out for you to install Torque on it and a bluetooth ODBII scanner...!
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yea its not rooted and the manufacturer doesnt seem to want to help with that, and they cant seem to replicate any of the issues the units are having (including force close loops). as for Torque, problem is that the bluetooth doesnt work with the android part, it only works on the radio part for phone calls or streaming music. its like 2 separate OS's in one unit.
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I have to say, this is screaming out for you to install Torque on it and a bluetooth ODBII scanner...!
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The Android side of the unit has a hardwired OBD connection available, and the latest units have an OBD software module.
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as for Torque, problem is that the bluetooth doesnt work with the android part, it only works on the radio part for phone calls or streaming music. its like 2 separate OS's in one unit.
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The unit also has USB ports on the back, that talk to the Android side. You can attach a powered USB hub to that to gain more ports. This way you can add a WiFi USB dongle, and even a BT dongle via USB.
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The unit also has USB ports on the back, that talk to the Android side. You can attach a powered USB hub to that to gain more ports. This way you can add a WiFi USB dongle, and even a BT dongle via USB.
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You need to make sure the USB hub is powered independently.
Am I correct that from what I have read...you can NOT plug your s3 into the usb of a car stereo and have it play and show song names etc? So unless they "fix" the usb mount issue the only options is aux or bluetooth? All the talk of the awesome sound these things are on paper anyways capable of and the purist connection to a car stereo is not available? Like many Im waiting for my US version to arrive in a couple of weeks and just trying to get a grip on what to expect and not expect is all.
Correct. You can't connect the S3 to a car stereo like a USB stick at the moment.
...unless your car stereo supports the MTP protocol
They have to be working to fix this right? I certainly hope they are....kind of hard to believe they made a change like this really.
+1
I guess since Im switching from a iPhone I have just gotten use to being able to use the phone with just about anything I try to attach it to. I do not regret jumping to Android with this upcoming phone, Im done with apple, but I think its been long enough these guys need to get the ball rolling on more streamlined connectivity on a semi universal scale like the iphone has. I really dont want to have to keep the iphone around just so I can listen to my tunes in the car.
This irritates the faeces out of me.
Android File Manager on Mac is flakey with it. And now, I'm in work on my XP machine and I can't get files off of it.
Grrrr. Why the hell have they stopped USB Debugging from being able to mount as normal?! Or just have the "Mount on Next Connect" option like on the S2's ICS rollout (Which was annoying too, but at least it worked).
I just don't get why Google are doing stuff like this and stopping you install on external memory. Is Google starting to become like Apple where they just bend over to networks and developers so they can make as much money as possible while the customer suffers? If this is how they going I'm really not liking it.
For those interested in the reason why MTP was chosen over USB mass storage mode: Impromptu Q&A Session With Android Engineer Dan Morrill Brings To Light Reasons Behind Galaxy Nexus' Lack Of USB Mass Storage
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For those interested in the reason why MTP was chosen over USB mass storage mode: Impromptu Q&A Session With Android Engineer Dan Morrill Brings To Light Reasons Behind Galaxy Nexus' Lack Of USB Mass Storage
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I get the reason they dropped it for phones with only internal storage, but why doesn't the SGS3 support it with its external SD-CARD?
Has Samsung made any statements about this? Because all I know is not being able to connect to my car, tv, other computers etc. and not being able to transfer Apps to external memory is completely ruining this phone for me and can't use it the way I usually use Androids, I mean now I always have to carry around a flash drive and a OTG cable and transfer from phone to flash drive then flash drive to other device, and I really don't give a crap about their technical explanation because i'd rather have a rougher Android experience with all the features than what they doing here, and I shouldn't be having to Root my phone just to get stuff that should already be there.
I'm so mad! I just got a new deck today and it doesn't recognize my SGS3 via USB! :crying::crying::crying:
Has there been a fix since the last post?
Edit: I actually found a fix! Easy UMS! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
Just get poweramp pro and a large sd-card, keep your music in .flac and sound quality is pretty decent even through the 3.5mil jack
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I recently "upgraded" from the Motorola Atrix 4G to the LG Optimus G. Wanted to know if there is a way to have audio out from the micro-usb in a manner similar to the Motorola car dock where the usb charging also conveys audio to a 3.5 mm plug. Currently I am using a vanilla dock where I have to repeatedly plug in a 3.5 mm audio cable and usb. It would be great to have only one cable connected. Any ideas ???
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I recently "upgraded" from the Motorola Atrix 4G to the LG Optimus G. Wanted to know if there is a way to have audio out from the micro-usb in a manner similar to the Motorola car dock where the usb charging also conveys audio to a 3.5 mm plug. Currently I am using a vanilla dock where I have to repeatedly plug in a 3.5 mm audio cable and usb. It would be great to have only one cable connected. Any ideas ???
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Same boat as you. (Even came to this phone from the Atrix )
I have not been able to figure anything out so far. Right now, I am using the Infuse car dock, which has audio out on the dock itself, but it will not work with the LGOG.
I really miss the ability to just dock the phone in one step without having to connect any additional wires.
Looking for an answer to the same question. I'm hoping it might just be a software tweek. Otherwise I'll use Bluetooth to output audio to my car, but I'd rather not.
Have been thinking about the same thing. Picked up the OG last weekend coming from the Atrix 4G. I have the car dock and was hoping that the base/craddle pins just launched the car dock app. and the charger/audio was in the combo cable that came with the card dock. No such luck. The combo cable does not even charge with it connected directly to the OG. So now I am thinking of breaking down the dock and coming up with a way to connect the broken down parts directly to the phone. I have a spot in my car that will work perfectly without the dock so I really don't care about the dock/craddle.
Atrix 4G ran a specialized software when it's put in a dock or the laptop docking station. LGOG doesn't have that special software. I don't think Motorola will port the special software over to LGOG or any other phone manufacturers.
Your best bet is LG will implement their version of this and release it for the OG. I won't hold my breadth for this to happen.
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Atrix 4G ran a specialized software when it's put in a dock or the laptop docking station. LGOG doesn't have that special software. I don't think Motorola will port the special software over to LGOG or any other phone manufacturers.
Your best bet is LG will implement their version of this and release it for the OG. I won't hold my breadth for this to happen.
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I disagree.
The phone comes with a custom version of LG's car home app. (Correct me if I am wrong).
I would not be surprised if we have an official OEM car dock available in the future.
Also, how are you guys expecting to fit a LGOG into an Atrix dock????
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I don't need the dock to place the phone in my car. So I was thinking of breaking down the plastic and using the "plug/connector" that just uses the pins to the USB connector on the phone. I did not think it was software related since I was running CM10 along with the app "CarHome Ultra".
But now that I think aobut it, I'm not sure the hardware will work since I'm sure the pinouts will be different between the Moto and LG. I don't care about the auto launch...even though that is a nice feature to have. I would just like to have my phone charging while driving and take calls via the AUX when needed.
Audio out through USB will not work
So, I emailed LG asking about support for audio out to which they replied:
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The only way to get audio out from a USB is if the Optimus G supports this which it does not I'm afraid.
Audio out is not an option, Jonathan.
I hope this information helps and should you have ANY future concerns or questions, then please don't hesitate to email us again or PREFERABLY call LG toll free at 1-800-243-0000 anytime, day or night to speak with a Live Representative!
Thank you again for contacting LG Electronics, it was my pleasure to serve you, many thanks for being an LG Customer, and be blessed, Jonathan!
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That is stupid in my opinion. Perhaps there is a hack then...
electronlove said:
So, I emailed LG asking about support for audio out to which they replied:
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The only way to get audio out from a USB is if the Optimus G supports this which it does not I'm afraid.
Audio out is not an option, Jonathan.
I hope this information helps and should you have ANY future concerns or questions, then please don't hesitate to email us again or PREFERABLY call LG toll free at 1-800-243-0000 anytime, day or night to speak with a Live Representative!
Thank you again for contacting LG Electronics, it was my pleasure to serve you, many thanks for being an LG Customer, and be blessed, Jonathan!
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That is stupid in my opinion. Perhaps there is a hack then...
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Do you have the link where you emailed them?
I would like to ask if there is an official car dock in the works.
Has anyone tried a USB dac? I don't have one, but I've read about people using them on other devices such as the gs3. However, I think you need to have USB otg functionality, which I thought someone else said isn't natively available on the AT&T lgog.
I hope to get the lgog this weekend and would also like a car dock solution like my atrix 2.
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Well coming from the Captivate, audio out via USB was originally promised by Samsung but never came to fruition. Eventually someone figured it out and wrote into some kernels. I'm sure there is a way to do it for this phone as well. Just need someone willing to give it a shot. Although development for this phone seems to be lacking in comparison to the Captivate so it may be a while before this comes if ever.
USB audio is supported in jellybean. I think a dev could make it work with ics.
Hoping when jellybean is out I can hook up my D12 via USB (or even just my fiio e11 with a microusb LOD).
the sg3 guys are hooking up all kinds of amp/dac setups with great results.
I would imagine that it is very possible. The mini USB on the LGOG supports an hdmi out with a simple adapter. Seeing how hdmi sends audio it would seem that the LGOG has the hardware to send audio. I'll see what other info I can find.
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Is there any way to get a car head unit to work with the s4? Whenever I plug in my phone to my head unit using the use cable, it just charges and doesn't play music through the head unit. Anyone know of a way to get this to work?
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Is there any way to get a car head unit to work with the s4? Whenever I plug in my phone to my head unit using the use cable, it just charges and doesn't play music through the head unit. Anyone know of a way to get this to work?
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use a AUX cable?
I want to use the usb cable since it charges the phone while playing music at the same time.
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I want to use the usb cable since it charges the phone while playing music at the same time.
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If the headunit was designed to be used with an iPhone...then no. It depends on a specific format and directory structure in that case.
The other possibility is using it as a USB device, but the phone can't do it stock because of the 'Media' nonsense. What you need is for it to work as a USB mass storage when it's plugged in (which probably requires root).
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If the headunit was designed to be used with an iPhone...then no. It depends on a specific format and directory structure in that case.
The other possibility is using it as a USB device, but the phone can't do it stock because of the 'Media' nonsense. What you need is for it to work as a USB mass storage when it's plugged in (which probably requires root).
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Thanks, that clears it up. If anyone knows of it can be done by rooting, let me know.
It depends on the head unit - I know for my Kenwood system there's an app that allows for playback from local storage.
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It depends on the head unit - I know for my Kenwood system there's an app that allows for playback from local storage.
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will the kenwood let you play pandora through the unit? or just stored music. i ask cause i dont store music on my phone.
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will the kenwood let you play pandora through the unit? or just stored music. i ask cause i dont store music on my phone.
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I couldn't get Pandora to work. Local music only. It's pretty stupid, so I just use an AUX cable and use the USB port to charge. I had an idea that someone could rip apart the Kenwood app, and make some sort of hack that plays all audio through the USB port. But I'm not experienced enough to do that and there's probably not enough interest for someone else to get it done.
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Thanks, that clears it up. If anyone knows of it can be done by rooting, let me know.
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There is indeed a way to use USB mass storage on our phones. It was an app that was posted to the xda front page shortly after our phones came out
You know I was sitting here thinking after i read all this that if possibly there were a way to make androids react to head units like iOS does. For instance the Pandora crap. That way we didn't always have to grab our phones and look at them therefore distracting us from road conditions. Just an idea and if this were possible?
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Unfortunately, most head unit manufacturers have designed their decks to support crapple devices only. There are a select few that support Android. My deck will not play through usb on my s4 but I can connect with bluetooth and browse music on they phone from the deck without ever touching the phone. That will depend on the BT support of the deck. It's a pity that the vast quantity of stupid people on this planet with Apple products still ruin it for us educated people that want nothing to do with it.
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How I fixed my Kenwood/Galaxy S4 issue.
sorry if my response is late or outdated but I was having the same issue with a Kenwood head unit I installed yesterday. For me it would not work even with the Kenwood app so I downloaded an app from the Play Store call "USB mass storage enabler"... it's free. I simply opened the app after installing it and told it to enable USB mass storage. Now when I hook my s4 up to the head unit it takes about two seconds to read and then plays my music perfectly. I am able to search by folder, genre,artist Lor album etc. Works perfectly 100% ... even shuffling. just wanted to share if anyone else was continuing to have problems or had any in the future.