Am I correct that from what I have read...you can NOT plug your s3 into the usb of a car stereo and have it play and show song names etc? So unless they "fix" the usb mount issue the only options is aux or bluetooth? All the talk of the awesome sound these things are on paper anyways capable of and the purist connection to a car stereo is not available? Like many Im waiting for my US version to arrive in a couple of weeks and just trying to get a grip on what to expect and not expect is all.
Correct. You can't connect the S3 to a car stereo like a USB stick at the moment.
...unless your car stereo supports the MTP protocol
They have to be working to fix this right? I certainly hope they are....kind of hard to believe they made a change like this really.
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I guess since Im switching from a iPhone I have just gotten use to being able to use the phone with just about anything I try to attach it to. I do not regret jumping to Android with this upcoming phone, Im done with apple, but I think its been long enough these guys need to get the ball rolling on more streamlined connectivity on a semi universal scale like the iphone has. I really dont want to have to keep the iphone around just so I can listen to my tunes in the car.
This irritates the faeces out of me.
Android File Manager on Mac is flakey with it. And now, I'm in work on my XP machine and I can't get files off of it.
Grrrr. Why the hell have they stopped USB Debugging from being able to mount as normal?! Or just have the "Mount on Next Connect" option like on the S2's ICS rollout (Which was annoying too, but at least it worked).
I just don't get why Google are doing stuff like this and stopping you install on external memory. Is Google starting to become like Apple where they just bend over to networks and developers so they can make as much money as possible while the customer suffers? If this is how they going I'm really not liking it.
For those interested in the reason why MTP was chosen over USB mass storage mode: Impromptu Q&A Session With Android Engineer Dan Morrill Brings To Light Reasons Behind Galaxy Nexus' Lack Of USB Mass Storage
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For those interested in the reason why MTP was chosen over USB mass storage mode: Impromptu Q&A Session With Android Engineer Dan Morrill Brings To Light Reasons Behind Galaxy Nexus' Lack Of USB Mass Storage
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I get the reason they dropped it for phones with only internal storage, but why doesn't the SGS3 support it with its external SD-CARD?
Has Samsung made any statements about this? Because all I know is not being able to connect to my car, tv, other computers etc. and not being able to transfer Apps to external memory is completely ruining this phone for me and can't use it the way I usually use Androids, I mean now I always have to carry around a flash drive and a OTG cable and transfer from phone to flash drive then flash drive to other device, and I really don't give a crap about their technical explanation because i'd rather have a rougher Android experience with all the features than what they doing here, and I shouldn't be having to Root my phone just to get stuff that should already be there.
I'm so mad! I just got a new deck today and it doesn't recognize my SGS3 via USB! :crying::crying::crying:
Has there been a fix since the last post?
Edit: I actually found a fix! Easy UMS! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711009
Just get poweramp pro and a large sd-card, keep your music in .flac and sound quality is pretty decent even through the 3.5mil jack
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Hey Guys,
I figured you fine chaps at XDA would be the best to ask this compatibility question:
I'm planning on building a new car audio system but I'm concerned that the head unit I pick up will not support the Vibrant via USB. This is mostly because when I used it with my PC at home for the first time, I had to download Samsung USB drivers to get it to work. I can't imagine most head units having these drivers stock. Does anyone use their Vibrant with a head unit via USB?
Otherwise I may just have to wait until Parrot releases their Android powered unit and pray that it supports my phone.
http://www.parrot.com/asteroid
Thanks for the help.
I actually just bought a new head unit that has a front usb port. Will test it after my nap. Yes, my nap and damn sure better be a good one.
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What features are you, specifically, looking to use? If it's just to play mp3 files, I've read that this can work if you connect as mass storage.
For other audio functions, I'd just get a head unit with an auxillary port.
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I believe it will only play audio through the jack. If the part you have is usb im sure there are adapters you can get say at frys or radio shack.
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Depends on what you need if it is the what is on the phone you need to access then, you can go and change the setting to mass storage and your phone will be seen as a flash drive. If you want to integrate the phone into the console system, you would need something that allowed that to happen, my Infiniti does do that to a point but then, I had to change some things around to make it to my liking. Don't know if that is helpful but it is more information
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If all you want to do is listen to music files that are on the sd card, I just tried it out and it works fine for that.
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Yep, I'm just looking to play my mp3's from the SD card. I want to avoid the 3.5mm connection because I'm a bit of an audiophile. Thanks for all of the help guys.
Just get a Bluetooth Head unit, I use my vibrant to play music and talk on phone through bluetooth all day long...
best part...NO WIRES
I have had major issues with mounting as mass storage to my head unit. I was able to do this with my original Droid. My Thunderbolt gave me issues but when I flashed a ROM that did now auto mount a virtual cd drive it worked without any issues.
I have not been able to get my bionic to work. I have a ROM but it still mounts a cd drive as well as both SD cards.
Is there a way to stop the CD drive from mounting?
At this point when I mount the head unit picks it up but then loops through the sd card.
I am thinking it is not the head unit because I can connect either of my old phones and they will work without any issue.
I have watched the noob video and looked through every similar post I could find with no success so here is my situation.
I have been an android user for all of a week. I gave my iphone 4 up for an atrix because I wanted the freedom. I have it rooted and unlocked thanks to you wonderful people on XDA and now I'm running the cm7 beta.
I have a pioneer 3200bt in my car and I have always plugged my iphone into the usb port and played music that way. I can't get it to work with my atrix. I have tried no external sd card, external sd card, mounting it for memory card use, usb debugging mode, no usb debugging, un/checking the "use internal memory" in cm7. With every try I get the same "Unplayable File" on my head unit. I thought it would just mount the sd card as mass storage and I would be on my way but its not that easy.
If I take the sd card out an plug it into my stereo it works fine I can play all the music on it. Using that way is fine but my phone won't be charging. The headphone jack would work too but analog sounds blah. I'm prepared to blame it on my head unit if I have to.
Does anyone have any ideas? Apps, mods, hardware? I greatly appreciate your thoughts and responses.
Besides the obvius answer of saving a little battery, why not get rid of the cords and use the bluetooth? The audio qaulity on my Pioneer xxxbt sounded great over bt (I clunkered my old car and bought a new one that I dont want a custom deck in). And I had two 12s, the quality was >= a 3.5mm.
Thanks for the response. I'd like to be able to do that too. I didn't realize the 3200bt was ghetto and only supported phone calls over bluetooth and not that A2DP.
Watch out if you are planning on streaming music or pod casts while using Bluetooth for audio. I was just served a notice about my Illegal tethering from ATT. I do not use tethering but they told me if I am streaming music through a Bluetooth device, it is considered tethering and they will add the plan automatically. I had been on the phone with them for over an hour about this and they have concluded that streaming anything ( music, pod cast or video) using your phones built in Bluetooth is considered tethering. I too have been listening to my music through my car stereo via Bluetooth and have recently received the notice because of my use of Pandora while doing so. Just trying to help.
I would love to be able to use the USB that my car stereo has also, so if anyone finds out how that would be awsome
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I have watched the noob video and looked through every similar post I could find with no success so here is my situation.
I have been an android user for all of a week. I gave my iphone 4 up for an atrix because I wanted the freedom. I have it rooted and unlocked thanks to you wonderful people on XDA and now I'm running the cm7 beta.
I have a pioneer 3200bt in my car and I have always plugged my iphone into the usb port and played music that way. I can't get it to work with my atrix. I have tried no external sd card, external sd card, mounting it for memory card use, usb debugging mode, no usb debugging, un/checking the "use internal memory" in cm7. With every try I get the same "Unplayable File" on my head unit. I thought it would just mount the sd card as mass storage and I would be on my way but its not that easy.
If I take the sd card out an plug it into my stereo it works fine I can play all the music on it. Using that way is fine but my phone won't be charging. The headphone jack would work too but analog sounds blah. I'm prepared to blame it on my head unit if I have to.
Does anyone have any ideas? Apps, mods, hardware? I greatly appreciate your thoughts and responses.
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Hopefully I'm not too late to the party on this thread... First things first... I am running CM7 Ba2TF and am having a similar issue. Thanks for mentioning the various options you've tried, will save me from messing with it in my car.
There may be hope, though. When I mount the drive, I actually do get access to mp3s, yet they are on the ones on my internal memory card and not my external card like I am used to. I didn't see this particular quirk mentioned in your post so if you haven't tried that, it's certainly better than nothing.
If it's super duper important, I haven't had any issues with external SD card mounting in my car whenever I had a stock based rom, namely darkside and alien.
I have been googling around a bit on this and it looks like it might just be a rom issue. They can't all be perfect, I suppose, but try putting them on your internal card and see how that mounts.
I PROMISE I have Googled and searched and searched and Googled. I absolutely apologize if this is a repeat or obvious question. I hope that there is a simple answer.
To put it plainly, I am wondering if anyone has made some sort of software that would allow an android device to appear as an iPod/iPhone while attached to a media playing device via USB? Specifically, a car head-unit (radio).
My Pioneer has all kinds of wonderful abilities for talking to and controlling an apple iWhatever, but has almost nothing for other devices. And I just wonder if anyone has helped bridge this gap?
I know that when the Palm Pres first came out, the emulated being an Apple device for a while, and I thought I saw a similar software for Android once upon a time. But if it exists and works today, God knows I am not finding it. SOOOO I thought I would ask in this wonderful, singular place of knowledge, before finally giving up.
Again, I apologize if this is a redundant question. Thanks so much in advance. Have a great day!
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I PROMISE I have Googled and searched and searched and Googled. I absolutely apologize if this is a repeat or obvious question. I hope that there is a simple answer.
To put it plainly, I am wondering if anyone has made some sort of software that would allow an android device to appear as an iPod/iPhone while attached to a media playing device via USB? Specifically, a car head-unit (radio).
My Pioneer has all kinds of wonderful abilities for talking to and controlling an apple iWhatever, but has almost nothing for other devices. And I just wonder if anyone has helped bridge this gap?
I know that when the Palm Pres first came out, the emulated being an Apple device for a while, and I thought I saw a similar software for Android once upon a time. But if it exists and works today, God knows I am not finding it. SOOOO I thought I would ask in this wonderful, singular place of knowledge, before finally giving up.
Again, I apologize if this is a redundant question. Thanks so much in advance. Have a great day!
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Lemme guess-you have a AVIC head unit? If so, me too! (X910BT). I actually posed a somewhat similar question asking for information on how to program A2DP so I can spoof the Bluetooth into thinking it were a supported model so we could stream Slacker.....
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable can help us....
What is the connection method? If its USB you could try mass storage device mode just to access the files themselves assuming the player has some sort of GUI to navigate the directories.
The easiest method if you want to control audio via the phone is to just hook the headphone output into the aux. Apple's proprietary usb connection has audio out and thats how docks are able to use it.
What is the radio model and have you tried Googling for a solution. I can't believe the manufacturer would just leave all other devices in the dark, but I have seen stuff like this before.
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What is the connection method? If its USB you could try mass storage device mode just to access the files themselves assuming the player has some sort of GUI to navigate the directories.
The easiest method if you want to control audio via the phone is to just hook the headphone output into the aux. Apple's proprietary usb connection has audio out and thats how docks are able to use it.
What is the radio model and have you tried Googling for a solution. I can't believe the manufacturer would just leave all other devices in the dark, but I have seen stuff like this before.
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Ummm... yes, connecting by USB. And yes I googled first. The pioneer will mount a USB mass storage device, but it is slow and lacks much in the way of functionality, such as sorting and playlists. Again, if the phone "pretended" to be an iSomething, then that would be ideal. I am wondering if such is possible.
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Ummm... yes, connecting by USB. And yes I googled first. The pioneer will mount a USB mass storage device, but it is slow and lacks much in the way of functionality, such as sorting and playlists. Again, if the phone "pretended" to be an iSomething, then that would be ideal. I am wondering if such is possible.
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I posted the same question a week ago with no answers. Great source of information here.
Anyway I dont think the issue is making the android system "pretend" to be an apple product as blackberries also work fine. I think droid needs a software to make it compatible wit this usb feature.
So one thing I really liked about my iPhone was the ability to push audio through the charge port into my truck's head unit (radio) while charging. The head unit has a usb port on the front and it charges my phone, and if I put the phone into storage mode, the head unit can read the storage on my phone. Now I want to push audio from apps like Google Play Music and iheart radio. Is this possible? I'm rooted.
Also on a side note, since I am rooted, can I update OTA without looking root? I used the steps from galaxys3root.com.
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So one thing I really liked about my iPhone was the ability to push audio through the charge port into my truck's head unit (radio) while charging. The head unit has a usb port on the front and it charges my phone, and if I put the phone into storage mode, the head unit can read the storage on my phone. Now I want to push audio from apps like Google Play Music and iheart radio. Is this possible? I'm rooted.
Also on a side note, since I am rooted, can I update OTA without looking root? I used the steps from galaxys3root.com.
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Sorry bud but most USB head units are mass storage or iPhone only. I'd invest on a Bluetooth headunit with audio streaming profile like the Sony MEX-BT4000P.
Get a windshield mount (had a factory one for my Atrix, loved it) and Bluetooth that bad boy. You'll also get cool stuff like car phone answering and if you use Vlingo in car you can made heads turn.
This feature will come with jelly bean
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That is awesome!! But until that time comes, is there a way to do that on ICS?
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I've been trying to get this to work for about a week now. The guys at my local car audio place are just as frustrated as I am.
I even tried using the OTG connection, no dice.
Supposedly some of the new Sony units support MTP, but then you're using Sony (which I guess doesn't have a great reputation, I'm kind of new to this whole thing).
CM will probably get Mass Storage enabled at some point, but that still isn't an ideal solution.
Jelly Bean will offer true USB audio streaming, but from what I've read the device you are streaming to will also have to support it. Whether that support can be added via a firmware update or will require new hardware is something I haven't been able to figure out yet.
This is all very annoying since part of the reason I got my S3 was to finally upgrade the sound in my car. I know I can use an Aux or Bluetooth connection in the meantime, but if the Jelly Bean tech requires new hardware it will be a pain to sell my old hardware and re-install the new.
I guess at this point it's just waiting to see when/if headunits will support the Jelly Bean audio streaming.
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Sorry bud but most USB head units are mass storage or iPhone only. I'd invest on a Bluetooth headunit with audio streaming profile like the Sony MEX-BT4000P.
Get a windshield mount (had a factory one for my Atrix, loved it) and Bluetooth that bad boy. You'll also get cool stuff like car phone answering and if you use Vlingo in car you can made heads turn.
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The thing is, I don't have the money to get a new head unit.. I could just connect the aux to the unit. I also forgot to mention I have a Sony Xplod (Not sure of the model right now, but it's about 2 years old.)
I think I'm just forced to connecting aux and usb to keep it charged on my trips..
Mass Storage has been enabled for the International S3, so it's likely it will for the US version soon. That should solve a lot of your problems. Though as I said above, UMS is still not an ideal solution (but far superior to Aux or Bluetooth).
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I've been trying to get this to work for about a week now. The guys at my local car audio place are just as frustrated as I am.
I even tried using the OTG connection, no dice.
Supposedly some of the new Sony units support MTP, but then you're using Sony (which I guess doesn't have a great reputation, I'm kind of new to this whole thing).
CM will probably get Mass Storage enabled at some point, but that still isn't an ideal solution.
Jelly Bean will offer true USB audio streaming, but from what I've read the device you are streaming to will also have to support it. Whether that support can be added via a firmware update or will require new hardware is something I haven't been able to figure out yet.
This is all very annoying since part of the reason I got my S3 was to finally upgrade the sound in my car. I know I can use an Aux or Bluetooth connection in the meantime, but if the Jelly Bean tech requires new hardware it will be a pain to sell my old hardware and re-install the new.
I guess at this point it's just waiting to see when/if headunits will support the Jelly Bean audio streaming.
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I'm a noob when it comes to Andriod.. I am a recovering iPhone user and do not know what most of the acronyms mean. I've looked around on google and can't find what they mean lol. OTG, MTP, and CM, what do they mean?
Also, is there a way to hurry up the process of me being verified for my new user account? The waiting 5 minutes is getting old... Thanks
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I'm a noob when it comes to Andriod.. I am a recovering iPhone user and do not know what most of the acronyms mean. I've looked around on google and can't find what they mean lol. OTG, MTP, and CM, what do they mean?
Also, is there a way to hurry up the process of me being verified for my new user account? The waiting 5 minutes is getting old... Thanks
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Once you pass 10 posts the 5 minute limit will be lowered to 2 minutes.
OTG = On the Go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
MTP = Media Transfer Protocol, as opposed to Mass Storage. I'm not clear on the reason for using it since it seems like UMS is more useful in almost every way.
CM = Cyanogenmod. The most popular and widespread Android ROM.
Ahh ok thank you! I should be getting close to that haha. And I guess UMS is something like Universal Mass Storage?
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Hello. Today I have made terrible mistake when trying to turn on a device in my pc. I have changed the voltage from my source power and my pc has exploded. Luckly, only the power supply has exploded in fact, like all other things are working and I'm typing this now on my pc. However the integrated sound card from my motherboard have stop working, don't get recognized even when I try to uninstall and re-install. I think it have damaged...
Well, this sucks, but while I don't spend a few bucks trying to get a cheap off-board sound card, I was thinking if there are any way to make a android device sounds like a USB offboard sound card. I have searched in web and XDA for a answer, but always I get the solution using wifi. I already get this working, but has a small lag, and this is uncomfortable. Others resolutions always use some kind of kernel change or/and OTG support with the device.
TLDR: Now, this is my question: Someone has managed to send the audio from the PC via USB for a android in a device (like a off-board USB sound card), and this could be possible without kernel changes or OTG? (My Moto E don't support OTG, unfortunately)
PS: Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to share my unlucky story.