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Does anyone know what the OTA does/changes? I would hate to apply it for no significant reason and cost myself a chance at root in the future.
Not until Leo, tmartin, toast, or haus says so. They are working on root
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So in other wordss, don't apply it??
HTC EVO = my best friend
Do not apply it unless you want to wait for root.
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Do not apply it unless you want to wait for root.
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You and anybody else saying that is just as useful as me saying if you take the OTA, you wont have to wait.
At this point everything looks like its just pure speculation, nobody knows for sure.
When would you ever apply an OTA~ I don't recall a situation where it was a good idea LOL
Can't watch the Green Hornet until I update the software. No thanks.
I didn't update mine yet and it played green hornet just fine. It's a shame they didn't put a better movie on here it actually looks pretty darn good. It's the most impressive 3d content I've seen so far on the 3vo
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Where did you get your phone, Best Buy?
I applied the update and now my phone shortcut is missing from the lockscreen and the app drawer. I searched online and apparently it's a common issue and HTC is working on yet another update to fix it. Apparently the first OTA update allowed you to connect to the phone via ADB.... so it looks as if they MAY be in the process of unlocking the bootloader for us.
Either way, there are a few small bugs to work out.
I wouldnt apply the OTA.. i know that its not confirmed it will do anything to affect root. However my understanding is the devs working on root didnt do it and im not going to either. Id like my phone to be as similar to the ones they are working on as possible just in case it matters.
On top of that i dont see any problems from not installing the OTA.
Too funny. You guys say you don't trust the OTA but you trust the software that came on the phone to begin with? Anyhow, HTC put out an update for a reason- it fixes things that are broken. If you want a partially functioning and buggy device, do not apply the update. If we had root I could see why people would be so concerned about losing it. However, we do not have root and who knows when we will. So, if until then you want a phone that works properly, apply the update which probably isn't going to change a whole lot in regards to your ability to root.
So if I did apply the update I'm f'ed??
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OTA - KIA my 3VO
The OTA has screwed up my phone. It is stuck in a boot loop; I was able to go to the bootloader but the factory reset did not fix it. I am headed to the store to swap out my brand new phone.
S_rob7488 said:
So if I did apply the update I'm f'ed??
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Nope. Its all speculation at this point.
mine worked fine did you give it some time?
I'd hold off on updating for the simple reason HTC is trying to fix their last OTA lol
My phone arrives Monday but I'll wait unless theres a bug that is really bothering me, otherwise I can hold off. If you want to update for the sake of updating then don't whine if it prevents you from rooting later.
mlin said:
Nope. Its all speculation at this point.
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I sure hope that i didn't just ruin my chances of getting root!
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S_rob7488 said:
I sure hope that i didn't just ruin my chances of getting root!
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not likely, they said they are giving us root .. i kinda believe them since i doubt they want another backlash like they had
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Too funny. You guys say you don't trust the OTA but you trust the software that came on the phone to begin with? Anyhow, HTC put out an update for a reason- it fixes things that are broken. If you want a partially functioning and buggy device, do not apply the update. If we had root I could see why people would be so concerned about losing it. However, we do not have root and who knows when we will. So, if until then you want a phone that works properly, apply the update which probably isn't going to change a whole lot in regards to your ability to root.
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But it could and often does patch up holes that COULD be used to rout root...
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I was informed today that Verizon is pushing out the new Ota already. If you haven't gotten it you will soon. 2 questions....
1. Do we have to Odin back to stock to receive the update?
2. Will there have to be a new process to root after we accept the ota?
Should this have gone under the Q and A?
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drbveb88 said:
I was informed today that Verizon is pushing out the new Ota already. If you haven't gotten it you will soon. 2 questions....
1. Do we have to Odin back to stock to receive the update?
2. Will there have to be a new process to root after we accept the ota?
Should this have gone under the Q and A?
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I think this has already been discussed. The nee ota is nothing more than the search feature dumbing down and a new baseband+kernel. I believe you can root this with the current method. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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Why mess up your root? Just give it some time and the devs will probably have the update rooted and ready to flash with Odin !
Can anybody confirm that these will not auto-install?
On my HTC Incredible, I would just hit install later, but the popup would come back every 15 minutes.. very annoying!
Soon as the update comes out I will have a fully deodexed rooted zipaligned version available.
If I can figuire it out, I will also make an Odin image out of it.
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sfobrien said:
Why mess up your root? Just give it some time and the devs will probably have the update rooted and ready to flash with Odin !
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Great point! Thanks
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nosympathy said:
Soon as the update comes out I will have a fully deodexed rooted zipaligned version available.
If I can figuire it out, I will also make an Odin image out of it.
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No thanks, i don't want a dumbed down search. Does anyone?
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No thanks, i don't want a dumbed down search. Does anyone?
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No one does. But literally its as simple as putting the old search apk back into the new rom or ota. Nothing to be worried about
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I love how Samsung and Verizon take so long to release updates - except when it's to take away the features on your phone. They get those out pretty quickly.
Does this OTA have any benefit??
Any way to block this ota? I have root access
antispiral said:
Any way to block this ota? I have root access
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I don't remember where I read this but you have to freeze FWUpdate.
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It's been pretty well established how to restore proper search functionality. The real question should be what do the kernel and radios do? Any improvements in reception or battery life? Any improvements in device performance? And most importantly, does this change anything regarding bootloader unlocking research and work-arounds?
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I don't remember where I read this but you have to freeze FWUpdate.
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How do you freeze this? I have force stopped it, but for me "disable" is greyed out
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How do you freeze this? I have force stopped it, but for me "disable" is greyed out
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You can freeze apps with Titanium Backup.
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You can freeze apps with Titanium Backup.
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Thanks, didn't even think to do that for some reason. I just froze FWUpgrade, SDM & VZWUpdate in Titanium Backup.. can anyone confirm if there's anything more that needs to be frozen?
Here 1. Don't accept it. 2. We can pull radio and kernel and install those.
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Update should fail anyway if you don't have a stock recovery. They generally require a stock recovery to update the phone.
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Cruiserdude said:
It's been pretty well established how to restore proper search functionality. The real question should be what do the kernel and radios do? Any improvements in reception or battery life? Any improvements in device performance? And most importantly, does this change anything regarding bootloader unlocking research and work-arounds?
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I consistently get -75 to -85 dbm so I really don't think there is a reception issue with the 4G radio for me. Now the WiFi is awful for me. That could be improved. GPS is sick.... I lock on in about half a second
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FYI guys, we can still root using the same method after the OTA (VRALG1)
Anybody here feel confused with some of the users that are updating to the latest locked down firmware, I just find it weird that people are knowingly locking down their phones, the main reason people come here is to do the opposite. I've read people apply the update and they still ask for some sort of support from community members. I just dont get it.
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I read some saying they didn't care and after some did the update they said the phone was faster and worth losing root. Others just want root and were able to update using voodoo ota rootkeeper. To keep root and update.
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They kept root in a sense. Yes, they can still run some apps that require root, but they cannot flash a custom kernel or recovery.
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I traded my note 2 and got this. Met the guy at Verizon. Got the prompt for the OTA and took it before I knew what was good for me. Although I would have preferred not to, I am very impressed with the stock firmware.
Only disappointment which would make me want to root is WiFi tethering doesn't work in Pdanet, and of course the annoying WiFi toggle - both things I'm content dealing with without pulling hair out while I wait for the new exploit.
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I've noticed a few of the update fans haven't posted in here for awhile. Possible a good thing for the community.
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I know it sounds crazy, but, I still need to learn more first. I really don't need root as of right now. So, if I update, will it screw up my phone? ANd currently, I have the AIO Project Odex installed and uninstalled TalkBack and disabled Samsung TTS and Google TTS. And, please, I know its a stupid question, but please answer.
First, it may not update because you are rooted. It shouldn't brick it though, just lose root. Second, if you do update, and I'm assuming it's too me7, you currently do not have a way to flash custom roms. And you may give up that option for ever. I would discourage you from updating.
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First, it may not update because you are rooted. It shouldn't brick it though, just lose root. Second, if you do update, and I'm assuming it's too me7, you currently do not have a way to flash custom roms. And you may give up that option for ever. I would discourage you from updating.
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Why wouldn't it update? Would I have to unroot then update?. Next, that's all I really want. I'm not very familiar with the Jelly Bean Odin for fixing. And, I already do know that, and couldn't I find a way back to MDK with Odin? And for some reason, I'm terrified of rebooting because it might bootloop. (I know, crazy right?)
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Why wouldn't it update? Would I have to unroot then update?. Next, that's all I really want. I'm not very familiar with the Jelly Bean Odin for fixing. And, I already do know that, and couldn't I find a way back to MDK with Odin? And for some reason, I'm terrified of rebooting because it might bootloop. (I know, crazy right?)
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If you take the update there is no way back to mdk for technical reasons, look up q-fuses. Since you are rooted the update may not work. And boot loops are not that big a deal if you know how to get past them. I'd not update and do a lot more research. The update isn't going a way and you can always do it if you want. BUT, you can't go back once you do.
I still don't understand why it won't work. And how would I get past them? (I know to do it on GB Xperia Play not, Jelly Bean/ S4)
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HwaA18 said:
I still don't understand why it won't work. And how would I get past them? (I know to do it on GB Xperia Play not, Jelly Bean/ S4)
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It sounds like your telling me your phone boot loops every time you reboot it? You've done a lot of messing with your phone by the sounds of it. That's the reason ota update probably won't work.
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Why don't you just Odin back to stock mdk and fix it?
Actually, never happens. Just paranoid. And I didn't install anything except Project Odex (WiFi toggle etc) and removed the TTS apps. And that's it
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HwaA18 said:
I know it sounds crazy, but, I still need to learn more first. I really don't need root as of right now. So, if I update, will it screw up my phone? ANd currently, I have the AIO Project Odex installed and uninstalled TalkBack and disabled Samsung TTS and Google TTS. And, please, I know its a stupid question, but please answer.
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I have a perfect condition white 16 GB model, running ME7. I'd be willing to pay you and pay shipping if you wanted to switch.
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zerofighter1 said:
I have a perfect condition white 16 GB model, running ME7. I'd be willing to pay you and pay shipping if you wanted to switch.
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ah, sorry bro. im gonna have to pass :/
If you don't need root and don't want to flash custom rom's and want the update to me7, then you might as well trade your phone with one of these good folks stuck on me7 already. Give them some relief and gives you what you seem to want. Else wise freeze that ota.
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I meant, I want to unroot temporarily, then reroot when I understand Odin better.
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I still can't get the OTA? Does anyone know how this roll out happens? When I hit check for update it tells me I'm up to date. I know other people in my area who already got the update. This makes no sense
Shake your phone up a little bit and try again. That is what is working for others
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Shake your phone up a little bit and try again. That is what is working for others
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Seriously guy? Forums are for members to help each other. Not to be a jackass. If you're not going to be helpful don't respond
I had to laugh.... If you can't take some fun in what you do or helping others... Xda is not for you...you need a private forum lol but if you're system is use up to date then it's up to date man ...
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Well honestly the best option ours to flash kk with recovery of any one can either take the ota or call the carrier and try to get it pushed. Once you take ota you can't really ever do anything else without a complete wipe downgrade
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What carrier? And have your tried the LG tool? Also why wait does OTA, is its released for your carrier and device just manually flash out and quit complaining
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I'm on T-Mobile. I don't root. I'm stock. I can't use the PC tool because I have a Mac. I called T-Mobile about this and all they do is read the press release. They don't know anything
You don't root? LOL ok why do you need a forum?
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The goblins ate it. But seriously, here's your answer, straight from the (former) head maintainer of the Android Open Source Project.
https://plus.google.com/+JeanBaptisteQueru/posts/cVFuksrfJCJ
Carriers do the same thing that Google does.
Thread Closed as there is so many KK threads addressing this....Thanks.