Hey guys
This question is mainly aimed at gaming freaks who have also switched to custom roms.
Just wanna know how is the gaming performance (generally 3d games) on various roms like Resurrection remix, ics slim ,cm9, miui etc..
I saw in various threads that many 3d games lag more on such roms (at stock cpu/gpu settings)? Is it true? Coz if it is, then this is totally a deal buster for me..i was excited to flash RR but if games are lagging...there wont be any use of improved system performance lol on a custom rom
anyway guys do let me know the gaming problems with any of the popular roms..so i can make up my mind and finally flash a custom rom..
thanks
aviral1990 said:
Hey guys
This question is mainly aimed at gaming freaks who have also switched to custom roms.
Just wanna know how is the gaming performance (generally 3d games) on various roms like Resurrection remix, ics slim ,cm9, miui etc..
I saw in various threads that many 3d games lag more on such roms (at stock cpu/gpu settings)? Is it true? Coz if it is, then this is totally a deal buster for me..i was excited to flash RR but if games are lagging...there wont be any use of improved system performance lol on a custom rom
anyway guys do let me know the gaming problems with any of the popular roms..so i can make up my mind and finally flash a custom rom..
thanks
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i am on latest version of ressurection remix and i fell no such problem.i use no tweaking like overclocking etc...{i hate all these things}}
Cm9/aokp I get the best graphics performance. I actually under clock my CPU for a longer battery life... and its just still as good if not better than stock.
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Games like Dead trigger, NOVA 3, shadowgun, Modern Combat 3 - lots of framerate issues on ICS custom rom. I never had issues on GB and never stayed on samsung ICS long enough to find out what that was like. Mundane tasks showed that it sucked balls, so I seriously doubt that it would be any different with intensive tasks like gaming.
I'd venture a guess that CM9 kernel is probably better than the majority of ICS kernels. My experience is that it just works alot better in general - other kernels have a lot of bells and wistles but other than some cool novelty feature, really aren't very different from each other. CM9's kernel really stands out for me. I have however heard good things about Fluxi kernel. I made the switch but it was much worse unfortunately others may have a different experience though.
The lag spikes seem to be random aswell, so I have my doubts any overclocking would help. If it happened in sequences with big open fields and lots of enemies on screen I'd understand, but when you are in a small corrider with no-one around, I can't think of why it should do it then. Not to mention it was seemless on stock GB (actually Villian ROM 3.0 and Redpill kernel).
But I've got CM9 running exactly how I want it and its stock CM9 kernel is actually pretty good, the games are good to play on it, but you do get annoying lag spikes somewhat frequently.
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I have switched from samsung LP7 rom to AOSP (F1 GNex) and then AOKP (hydrogen).
and I really love the overall UI smoothness on both, however I did notice that 3D graphics performance is not as good as in the samsung ics rom.
This is very noticeable (low frame rate lag) in games like Modern Combat 3 and ShadowGun..
Anybody knows the reason why?
Note: I did not underclock/undervolt the cpu or gpu
same issue here on all AOSP and AOKP roms i think there is real problem in GPU driver in Aosp OR screen refresh rate and until now not fixed i really hate the fps drops in games i feel like i have a **** device not sgs2
btw if u run antutu when it come in 3d graphic test(knight) in start of test the fps get stuck at 51 fps like 10-15 second then it goes up and in nena mark 2 when u look in the fps meter u can see the fps gose up an down like hell in all aosp roms and the test lag as hell the u will got 46 on sammy rom the test run so so smooth and the fps much better no fps drops and u will got between 52-54 fps
this issue is keeping me on sammy rom but i really like the Aosp and Aokp i really hope it will fix soon
Agreed.
yahyoh said:
in nena mark 2 when u look in the fps meter u can see the fps gose up an down like hell in all aosp roms and the test lag as hell the u will got 46 on sammy rom the test run so so smooth and the fps much better no fps drops and u will got between 52-54 fps
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I can confirm this.
Can it be fixed im cm9?
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iamnotkurtcobain said:
Can it be fixed im cm9?
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idk there is many things to fix in Aosp roms and most impotent thing is the laggy 3d thing that issue keep away from cm or aokp roms but i really like them
u can ask codeworkx for fix but he will ignore u and i think he is busy with i9100G too as i read in cm thread
btw there is problem with ram too
in sammy rom i got more than 1070 points in aosp only 890 in quadrant i got more than 3200 in ram points in aosp 2000
so for now sammy rom is best in every thing performance-stability-for games - etc
in GB the Aosp roms was slightly better in every thing than sammy rom but idk what happened in ics it become the opposite or maybe sammy but some magic in there ics roms
darkchazz said:
I have switched from samsung LP7 rom to AOSP (F1 GNex) and then AOKP (hydrogen).
and I really love the overall UI smoothness on both, however I did notice that 3D graphics performance is not as good as in the samsung ics rom.
This is very noticeable (low frame rate lag) in games like Modern Combat 3 and ShadowGun..
Anybody knows the reason why?
Note: I did not underclock/undervolt the cpu or gpu
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yahyoh said:
idk there is many things to fix in Aosp roms and most impotent thing is the laggy 3d thing that issue keep away from cm or aokp roms but i really like them
u can ask codeworkx for fix but he will ignore u and i think he is busy with i9100G too as i read in cm thread
btw there is problem with ram too
in sammy rom i got more than 1070 points in aosp only 890 in quadrant i got more than 3200 in ram points in aosp 2000
so for now sammy rom is best in every thing performance-stability-for games - etc
in GB the Aosp roms was slightly better in every thing than sammy rom but idk what happened in ics it become the opposite or maybe sammy but some magic in there ics roms
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maybe you can get driver sources from samsung so codeworkx can work on them
other wise you have to live with it
sadly samsung doesnt provide sources besides kernel
in fact no manufacturer does
which is the biggest drawback in aosp rom or phones like s2
but the advantages out weight the problems aosp ftw
what the hell the thread moved to Q&A thanks for mod now no one will see it
So it's a driver problem I assume ?
AOKP & CM9 roms are slow compare to AOSP & Sam roms. I usualy get 59.8 fps on antutu benchmark at knights where as on AOKP & CM9 roms it doesn't go beyond 54-56 fps. IMO try 4.0.3 roms instead of 4.0.4 ! You will feel the difference.
And one more thing try Siyah 3.0.0rc1 - 3.0.1. (Device gets quite hot but it gives you nice fps on HD games like MC3,Shadowgun, Asphalt 6).
I know AOKP & CM9 have lots of nice tweaks but they are not yet optimized & have some touch problems likr when you swipe left it goes right etc )
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Chairmansaab said:
AOKP & CM9 roms are slow compare to AOSP & Sam roms. I usualy get 59.8 fps on antutu benchmark at knights where as on AOKP & CM9 roms it doesn't go beyond 54-56 fps. IMO try 4.0.3 roms instead of 4.0.4 ! You will feel the difference.
And one more thing try Siyah 3.0.0rc1 - 3.0.1. (Device gets quite hot but it gives you nice fps on HD games like MC3,Shadowgun, Asphalt 6).
I know AOKP & CM9 have lots of nice tweaks but they are not yet optimized & have some touch problems likr when you swipe left it goes right etc )
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what u mean by AOSP
as i know AOSP is cm9 or F1 rom
Well i have rooted my phone and wanted to overclock my S2.. Now i need to install a custom kernel for that , so was thinking of going with siyah..
However i just wanted to know whether is it really worth overclocking? I mean i will go back to stock settings for day to day usage.. but like for playing games and stuff..i would like to overclock my cpu..
There are few 3d games mainly open world ones like gangstar rio city, amazing spiderman which lag a bit even on S2..
So just wanted to know whether overcloking to1.4 or 1.5 will show any improvements or not? Also how does it affect the overall performance of the device i.e. opening apps, swiping through home screens, home screen lag etc.
Answers would be greatly appreciated
thanks
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Well i have rooted my phone and wanted to overclock my S2.. Now i need to install a custom kernel for that , so was thinking of going with siyah..
However i just wanted to know whether is it really worth overclocking? I mean i will go back to stock settings for day to day usage.. but like for playing games and stuff..i would like to overclock my cpu..
There are few 3d games mainly open world ones like gangstar rio city, amazing spiderman which lag a bit even on S2..
So just wanted to know whether overcloking to1.4 or 1.5 will show any improvements or not? Also how does it affect the overall performance of the device i.e. opening apps, swiping through home screens, home screen lag etc.
Answers would be greatly appreciated
thanks
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well OC does improve performance of the phone while doing the benchmark test's,but the same is not recommended for longer use since it creates lots of isssue's like Random freezing, rebooting, overheating etc which is not good for ur phone.
hence the best thing is to try out some good kernels like Siyah, fluxi etc and see how ur games fare with there default settings and also u can set the Governers in the same(siyah, Fluxi kernel) and try, that way its safe rather than Overclocking
Well, more performance (but for me not that much) at the expense of battery life and a damaged chip set sooner than later in the future
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So do u think installing siyah kernel will have a postive impact on the performance of the phone overall as well as games? by the way regarding OC, ofcourse i wont overclock the whole time , only when playing those demanding 3d games..
more replies especially from experienced overclockers would be appreciated, thanks..
I am not installing any custom rom currently as RR and few others have reportedly been not so stable for gaming..the games crash or force close etc..
so gonna stick with stock rom for now..but i do want a performance enhancing kernel
You won't need to overclock at all whilst playing games. The cpu will be more than sufficient and stock speeds. Also the gpu does main of the gaming bits and that will have no problem as it can play tegra games
well thats d prob..there are few games that do lag on d great s2 lol as mentioned in my post... so was wonderkng wheyher overclocking cpu and/or gpu will affect performance or not..
thanks for f replies though
So my s3 all of a suden started to have micro stutters,i have a custom rom Foxhound 2.3, and when i try a custom kernel it lags as hell. for exemple perseus stutters my phone in app drawer and almost everytime i open an application. Syah 1.8.9. although its better, still have some stutters... the only one that can have the phone more stable is the stock one. I dont really mind having the stock kernel is just that it makes the phone more stable but it still stutters some times when opening apps and in the app drawer. Its weird because in applications i have no problems, and when im playing games is all good to.. even the more heavy intensive. Also my boot and shutdown animation stutter or jitters a little bit.. a thing that dint happened.
Also the benchmarks are good as always +/- 16000 on antutu, no changes... so i dont really understand whats happening...
Is the phone dead? any ideas?
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So my s3 all of a suden started to have micro stutters,i have a custom rom Foxhound 2.3, and when i try a custom kernel it lags as hell. for exemple perseus stutters my phone in app drawer and almost everytime i open an application. Syah 1.8.9. although its better, still have some stutters... the only one that can have the phone more stable is the stock one. I dont really mind having the stock kernel is just that it makes the phone more stable but it still stutters some times when opening apps and in the app drawer. Its weird because in applications i have no problems, and when im playing games is all good to.. even the more heavy intensive. Also my boot and shutdown animation stutter or jitters a little bit.. a thing that dint happened.
Also the benchmarks are good as always +/- 16000 on antutu, no changes... so i dont really understand whats happening...
Is the phone dead? any ideas?
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I have had this also. I guess it could be some minor ROM/kernel incompatibility or something like that. Performance was usually good but the tiny little stuttering drove me crazy. Yank555 kernel was a good solution for me, 0 stutter.
I would say that the bundled kernel in any given ROM is probably the most stable with that ROM, but if you want to try a different kernel it's best to flash it right after a clean ROM flash and configure the kernel to be a little bit more on the performance side. I mean if it's configured to save battery it's more likely to make the UI stutter.
At the moment I'm on ReVolt nightly with Yank CM kernel. No lags or stutters. I've tested a few Samsung leak 4.2.1 ROMs also with (obviously) stock kernels, no stutters with them either.
Play around and test different ROMs and kernels, find the best solution for you.
amppen said:
I have had this also. I guess it could be some minor ROM/kernel incompatibility or something like that. Performance was usually good but the tiny little stuttering drove me crazy. Yank555 kernel was a good solution for me, 0 stutter.
I would say that the bundled kernel in any given ROM is probably the most stable with that ROM, but if you want to try a different kernel it's best to flash it right after a clean ROM flash and configure the kernel to be a little bit more on the performance side. I mean if it's configured to save battery it's more likely to make the UI stutter.
At the moment I'm on ReVolt nightly with Yank CM kernel. No lags or stutters. I've tested a few Samsung leak 4.2.1 ROMs also with (obviously) stock kernels, no stutters with them either.
Play around and test different ROMs and kernels, find the best solution for you.
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Well tested yank kernel and still stutters.. also already tested some other roms and stock roms and still stutters too... dunno whats happening
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Well tested yank kernel and still stutters.. also already tested some other roms and stock roms and still stutters too... dunno whats happening
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Strange. If it does it with all kernels and ROMs it could be some kind of a hardware problem. I would flash stock ROM through Odin just to be sure... if that won't help I think nothing will.
I have been running Sense on my Rezound since the day the phone launched. I've tried a couple different ROMs but have always gone back to the stock ROM and then removed all the bloat apps, and been very happy with the performance and stability on my phone.
Recently I updated to ICS and the most recent firmware (I was on GB this whole time), and battery life had been sucking pretty bad, so I decided to try a custom kernel. I flashed FunkyKernel 3.7, and, while it didn't do much to help battery life (even with underclocking and undervolting), it did GREATLY improve performance, especially gaming performance.
But, battery life was still MUCH worse than it had been on GB, so I decided to try CM 10.1 and see if a vanilla ROM would fare better. Flashed CM 10.1 and the ROM ran fine, but my graphics performance took a HUGE hit. I've been playing a lot of Sonic the Hedgehog lately (the Android port of the original), and on ICS sense it ran a buttery smooth 60 fps. On CM 10 I'm getting like 15-20 fps. Fired up Quadrant and saw the same results on the graphics tests there. I tried flashing FunkyBean 3.7, and playing with the clock speed and governor settings, but no dice. I enabled "force GPU on 2d" and no dice. I tried suggestions from the CM thread, no dice. Loaded up Shadowgun, and it also ran very poorly, compared to playing on the Sense ROM... very choppy
Has anyone else noticed this? I expected CM to FLY compared to Sense. The home screen and most apps were just fine, no choppiness, no lag that I could really see, only the games really showed any loss of performance. Did I do something wrong? Is it an issue with the drivers?
Cm 10.1 ROMs have a 50/50 gaming performance. Some games are smooth some are not
Now if you want CyanogenMod and great battery life and performance all around than you want a cm9 ROM. I only left cm9 for the new features if cm10.1
So if you use cm10.1 you may need to try different games. But cm9 is perfect but you give up cm10.1 features
Maybe in the future gaming will get fixed. Maybe when ion starts rolling out but who knows..
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Ok, at least now I know it's not just my phone or me screwing something up. thank you.
Yup, just try CM9.
Hi guys, I'm searching for a rom which works great with games, any ideas?
No one is going to answer you because of the rules. I'm trying to find it to for the last six months. In my opinion is best if you have some knowledge if you don't you will have to read for a while, to use you latest stock rom. But you will have to deodex it, zipallighn it, apply the modes you like from other rom if there are some and remove the bloatwear not all just the one that is safe to remove and you don't need. And perhaps replace touchwiz with nova launcher. It's just that here are very sensitive on questions about best rom. For the past six months I've downloaded a lot of roms and after a while having problems with all of them- here I mean problems with playing games. And till now the best experience I had was with stock rom but then I was missing some futures, mods from others. So only solution as I don't wanna search for another 6 monts is make my own. By the way the qiestion is not which is the best rom but which is the best for games or in other words on which rom I'll have no or less problems but stil for here is like you ask which is the best.
So make your own rom deodex and zipallighn for speed, remove the app you don't need because most of the bloatwear has running processes all the time so you can have more free ram and then if you want some extra mods.
I hope this is helpful although it mean you have a lot to read if you are new at that.
As previously stated, stock roms are the best all rounders and in my opinion much better than custom roms hands down.
As soon as you root a samsung you can expect performance issues. Had the same problem on all 3 samsung devices I've owned. This led me to not touch my htc m9 at all as far as mods go..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
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No one is going to answer you because of the rules. I'm trying to find it to for the last six months. In my opinion is best if you have some knowledge if you don't you will have to read for a while, to use you latest stock rom. But you will have to deodex it, zipallighn it, apply the modes you like from other rom if there are some and remove the bloatwear not all just the one that is safe to remove and you don't need. And perhaps replace touchwiz with nova launcher. It's just that here are very sensitive on questions about best rom. For the past six months I've downloaded a lot of roms and after a while having problems with all of them- here I mean problems with playing games. And till now the best experience I had was with stock rom but then I was missing some futures, mods from others. So only solution as I don't wanna search for another 6 monts is make my own. By the way the qiestion is not which is the best rom but which is the best for games or in other words on which rom I'll have no or less problems but stil for here is like you ask which is the best.
So make your own rom deodex and zipallighn for speed, remove the app you don't need because most of the bloatwear has running processes all the time so you can have more free ram and then if you want some extra mods.
I hope this is helpful although it mean you have a lot to read if you are new at that.
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Thanks for an answer.
I've used a lot of roms too, I've been changing them every week and I'm really enjoying ArchiDroid with android 5.1.1. I'm definitely going to try installing latest stock and doing what you told me to, I never liked stocks though.
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As previously stated, stock roms are the best all rounders and in my opinion much better than custom roms hands down.
As soon as you root a samsung you can expect performance issues. Had the same problem on all 3 samsung devices I've owned. This led me to not touch my htc m9 at all as far as mods go..
I wish I stole my HTC M9.
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I can't live without root, I'm using a lot of tweaks and rooted apps. Stock roms were always laggy and slow for me, maybe I just can't use them properly.
Stock ROMs are laggy on legacy devices.
New devices works perfectly good on Stock ROMs. This is why they have lesser Custom ROMs and older devices still has some ongoing developments.
I've never had any performance issue after rooting my Sonys and Samsungs. I always had better performance and recommend custom ROMs because they work better for me. Please bear in mind that my latest device is the S3 which has 1GB RAM while other new phones are going 4GB so my opinion only stops here : On old devices. On new devices , I've played with my friends Note 3 alot and we reached a conclusion that it works flawless even on Stock ROM.
For a gaming ROM , I would suggest ArchiDroid if you are going CM. Latest Archidroid Lollipop works flawlessly for me (Even while using Chrome with 11 Tabs. No lags and reloads while switching tabs). Runs NFS:Most Wanted , Cyrus and alot other major games that I've tested run on full FPS without a single lag. However , Hearthstone will never work good on S3 even on this magnificent ROM. Go for Archidroid for both KitKat and Lollipop if you want Performance. Go for Temasek (Darkened's build) if you want balanced Performance , customization and slightly better Battery life. Other ROMs work too , they may have more customization (Blisspop) etc but I did not list them because they are too heavy for a Gaming ROM In my opinion. AOKP KitKat is also a fair choice to go for.
For Touchwiz Based ROMs, I would say LukeROM. Install without Bloat and enjoy a smooth ROM even on stock kernel and no Greenify. NFS:Most Wanted , Cytus and other major games that I've tested also runs on full FPS without lag. It also has stock Camera and Note 4 Multiwindow that allow floating app like Messenger Chat Head. However , Chrome makes this ROM die on stock kernel. 4 or 5 tabs and it starts reloading when switching tabs. NeatROM Lite is also a good choice if you're fine with Android 4.3 and a Bluetooth Bug where NFC gets turn on too when you connect to a Bluetooth device. (Might be device specific bug since I don't see a lot of comments about that bug). Blekota's S5 Lite ROM with Boeffla kernel and Speed Mod also works flawless. Check my post on that thread for tutorial.(Posted few months back)
These are my personal experience with various ROMs for I9300. I've flashed almost every ROM that came to XDA and a few other Chinese forums since January 2014 and these are my conclusions. Please bear in mind that the same ROM might perform differently for different users with different usage and settings. Have a nice day
@conanDO98 Thanks for an answer, you just put everything in a whole new light to me. I'm on Luke's rom for like an hour now, it works great. But i do have a question, you said "no greenify", may I ask why? I always thought it's good for performance.
I have 550 free ram running cm 12(gaaps pico installed)now looking for a custom kernel to overclock...can u sugest me one?
@nolitooo When I was on cm12 I was using an ArchiKernel, it worked great. There's always boeffla kernel, with boeffla config app, try them both and pick your best
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@conanDO98 Thanks for an answer, you just put everything in a whole new light to me. I'm on Luke's rom for like an hour now, it works great. But i do have a question, you said "no greenify", may I ask why? I always thought it's good for performance.
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I'm sorry. By no greenify I mean I did not install Greenify on that ROM.
I suggest flashing Boeffla 7.9 on Luke ROM because after flashing I find the ROM smoother and Chrome works better
@conanDO98 I'm gonna flash it now and see how it works
I've tried archdroid it's not that it wasn't good just searching for better. I play a lot call of duty heroes which is laggy with all the roms i've tried so far but with most of them after a few days the game starts to crash, to close by itself but I don't need a rom that I need to restart every few hours or every day.
I'll try Luke Rom in a few days and will see if it's better. I guess that part of the problem is that most of the time I have installed around 80 apps by me. Some games, for alarm, calculator, apps like facebook, line, soundhound, xposed with some mods and others.
About the kernel I like boeffla with his options but for some reason I have less apps closing by itself with stock.
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I've tried archdroid it's not that it wasn't good just searching for better. I play a lot call of duty heroes which is laggy with all the roms i've tried so far but with most of them after a few days the game starts to crash, to close by itself but I don't need a rom that I need to restart every few hours or every day.
I'll try Luke Rom in a few days and will see if it's better. I guess that part of the problem is that most of the time I have installed around 80 apps by me. Some games, for alarm, calculator, apps like facebook, line, soundhound, xposed with some mods and others.
About the kernel I like boeffla with his options but for some reason I have less apps closing by itself with stock.
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I think stock roms are better for gaming, I play a lot of games, I was using cm12.1 and archidroid for few months and gaming was nice, but not what I was looking for. Now I'm on Luke ROM with boeffla 7.9 and gaming is so much better then on lollipop. I haven't played CoD Heroes though.
I did try the Luke rom but after a few days had some problems with some games, back on stock and all perfect. Now just have to download some tools and have free time and will deodex and zipaligh it. And some other mods if I find some good.
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I think stock roms are better for gaming, I play a lot of games, I was using cm12.1 and archidroid for few months and gaming was nice, but not what I was looking for. Now I'm on Luke ROM with boeffla 7.9 and gaming is so much better then on lollipop. I haven't played CoD Heroes though.
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What's a good rom to play garena free on galaxy s3 T mobile (d2tmo)?