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i had a sgs but just broke it with water dmg 2 months ago was great aside from battery life and gps and of course that horrible lag
tried many mods darky , doc , miui ... etc with different lagfix , kernel ext3 . ext4 .. etc but still the device lags alot , the best was miui glitch minimum lag but still the lag is there
i used nexus one with 2.3 and even HD2 with 2.2 and compared them to my phone ... loading games i load them like 1.5~2 x faster than both but while in menu , exiting apps , switching between apps and opining apps both devices do these things much faster and they dont lag at all while mine lags in everything and the same issue with my other friend sgs while sgs2 shows that its faster than both phones
now i want to buy a new phone and thinking about the sgs2 but i dont want to fall in the same mistake and end up with a laggy phone
so what do u think of sgs2 , does it lag much ? or it doesnt lag at all? does it have any lag issue ?
i want you to tell me honestly and excuse my poor English
PS : I 'm not comparing them to how IOS is , i know how fast is iOS but i'm not looking to buy any IPHONE cus i want an android
The word 'Lag' is a relative one. If you are coming from those devices then you won't notice any, but iPhone users have some trouble getting in, iOS is silky smooth, can't say the exact same for Android.
Remember, I am not a fan of either.
Regards.
Every piece of hardware in the world will have software lag on it occassionaly, at least. My experience is that this blows all over my HD2 with every ROM I had on there, and I tried a LOT of different builds on that.
Seriously, if you've had a HD2 running Android faster than your SGS2 then there's either some bad software involved or you've got a faulty device. The difference is more than obvious.
what i meant with lag that the phone get stuck and wont accept commands
i have been android user the for more than a year now , never bought any iphone
but compairing my sgs to hd2 and nexus 1 its the laggiest no mater what u do with it
nexus 1 and hd 2 were very smooth and dont lag when installing more than one up
my sgs lags while downloading a single up and nearly freeze while installing it , cant even brows contact smoothly while installing an app unlike hd2 and nexus 1
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Every piece of hardware in the world will have software lag on it occassionaly, at least. My experience is that this blows all over my HD2 with every ROM I had on there, and I tried a LOT of different builds on that.
Seriously, if you've had a HD2 running Android faster than your SGS2 then there's either some bad software involved or you've got a faulty device. The difference is more than obvious.
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talking about hd2 vs sgs 1 not 2
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talking about hd2 vs sgs 1 not 2
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So you're actually saying that a HD2 running Android is faster than the SGS, but not faster than the SGS2?
Edit: Sorry, I just reread your first post. I see what you're saying now. So basically, you've not got the SGS2, but you've had the SGS and wonder if it's that much better? In that case, I'm out, since I've never even played with the original SGS. All I can say is the the SGS2 is faster and smoother than anything I ever had running on my HD2, and I generally stuck to Nexus builds because I prefer the original stock Android experience.
Coming from an iPhone, I would say the S2 is on par as far as homescreen "lag" goes. As for not accepting commands, the only time I have had this happen is if I lock the phone using setCPU . Other than that, the phone is FAST. I don't notice any lag at all, and most apps launch just about instantly.
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So you're actually saying that a HD2 running Android is faster than the SGS, but not faster than the SGS2?
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i dont have a sgs2 and thats why i'm asking about it before i buy it
and i did compare my sgs1 2.3 darky 10 ext4 wiped to my friends hd2 2.2 mine lags in menu and while installing but its faster when it come to loading games by 1.5~2x times
his never lags while doing anything just smooth
There are small micro jitters here and there with andriod OS, not a smooth as iOS.
Barely any lag in normal use in things like web surfing and using the interface.
But I get extreme lag using BBC Iplayer(Not the app) in HD or any other video source that is in HD excluding youtube. The video lags and the sound it out of sync. Pretty much unwatchable.
I know that these videos aren't optimised for use on a mobile but it would have been nice if they didn't lag.
Apart from that, all other videos are fine.
Silky smooth here, underclocked to 1000GHZ. Had a sgs and it drove me maaaaaaaad!
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Why does everyone think ios is extreme fast?
Even my sgs loads apps quiker than my iphone 4.
It does maybe sometimes not as fluid but always fast.
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I agree faster loading time but unfortunatly not fluid as ios.
I own a Sgs, Sgs2, desire, desire hd, nexus s and the smoother ar the desire hd but it is heavy as a rock and not resistant as the sgs2
No lag on mine ever since updated.to XXKG6. No problem on either Ninphetamine or lulz kernel.
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On mine there is no lag with the stock ROM. Once I installed Go Launcher, the swiping of the homescreen while was not laggy did have a lower framerate than the stock Touchwiz 4 launcher which was silky smooth.
Never had ANY lag at all since the SGS2 released. It really depends on the usage. But mine, no lag.
No lags on mine. Unrooted and stock rom 2.3.3.
Ah, well... actually to be honest yes, now that I think about it... sometimes I experience a very annoying lag of about 1 second at each and every character I type in the standard text box of forums, while posting. Each character appears about 1 second after having tapped it on the virtual keyboard.
Not sure if it happens with all the browsers, but it's very annoying indeed.
In addition, under the same circumstances when tapping on the text for editing, the "arrow" cursor appears shifted down of about 2-3 rows, with respect to where it actually is in the text.
Not sure if anybody has found a solution for this.
All of these newer phones, EVO 3d, sensation, sgs2 etc. will hardly ever have lag, in my case I have mine underclocked and still no lag, and never had lag.
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The question really boils down to does it lag, Yes or No.
There are animation lags from time to time on the S2, thats just how andriod works. Even if you stuff in a quadcore with 3Ghz per core nothings gonna change due to how the software works, probably even if the memory speed is increased 10 folds there will be lags.
No and yes nothings perfect. Ive experienced it before root. Why are you thinking of swtching to, a diffrent OS?
EarlZ said:
The question really boils down to does it lag, Yes or No.
There are animation lags from time to time on the S2, thats just how andriod works. Even if you stuff in a quadcore with 3Ghz per core nothings gonna change due to how the software works, probably even if the memory speed is increased 10 folds there will be lags.
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Hi all,
Had my EVO 3D now for two days and it's a great phone, the 3D features are superb (probably a novelty but i'm enjoying them for now)
I've rooted and s-off'd my phone and the bootloader is unlocked.
I've installed a few roms, mostly sense, but pretty much everyone i have tried is quite laggy, not all the time but laggy in parts, now i was under the impression that this was pretty much the same phone (bar a few bits) as the sensation.
The sensation roms that i've had were superb, no lag (or very very little) and they worked perfect for the most part.
Is this because it's not been developed for -for very long? Or is this something which we will have to get used to?
EG: If anyones wondering what i'm on about, spin your carousel around and when it's about to re-align with the last window, it jitters slightly, the sensation on lets say insert coin never did this.
I'm running leedroid at the moment, the roms good it just stutters a bit, i've also tried king cobra, mikrunny, shooterbeats, the only one i've not tried is honeycombo.
Oh and i'm using lees kernel too at 1.5ghz max 400mhz min.
I'm not having a go at the dev's because in my eyes they're a bunch of geniuses whom we could not have our beloved androids without, my hat comes off to all of them, it's just i'm noticing a fair bit of lag through all the roms i've tried.
Any one elses input on this would be good.
Cheers.
I have used a few ROM/kernel combinations that would cause my second core (CPU1) to go completely offline. Its not supposed to be on all the time (although you can set it to be); but it is supposed to come on under heavy load. This tutorial helped me solve that problem. Maybe will help you too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20519070&postcount=3129
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I have used a few ROM/kernel combinations that would cause my second core (CPU1) to go completely offline. Its not supposed to be on all the time (although you can set it to be); but it is supposed to come on under heavy load. This tutorial helped me solve that problem. Maybe will help you too?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20519070&postcount=3129
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Thanks m8, I did get the app, bought it too nice app but i haven't noticed any change in terms of speed or performance and it does have that irritating lag when swiping between some screens.
I know sense isn't perfect but my DHD was smoother than this with sense 3.0 roms.
EDIT: Just checked the setting within system tuner pro (has to be pro, the free one doesn't allow the switching of the cores) , don't set it to boot, set it to init.d script instead, the second core hadn't come on active until i did this, it's probably going to rinse my battery but if it makes it smoother (which it has) then great.
Thanks man.
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So in short.
Buy system tuner pro.
Switch on all cores, via settings - Active tweaks - force all cpu's online - init.d
Go back and select CPU from main page.
Knock up the frequency to whats safe / needed.
Enjoy a smoother rom and a shorter battery life
i like fresh never lags on my phone stock kernel its probably as close to stock as you can get but it has a lot of goodies i don't like all the flashy colors of other rom's if that sounds like what u like check out fresh
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i like fresh never lags on my phone stock kernel its probably as close to stock as you can get but it has a lot of goodies i don't like all the flashy colors of other rom's if that sounds like what u like check out fresh
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I will do m8, thanks.
I've been living with the Desire HD and Sensation for some time now and the roms on both of those phones are superb, no lag whatsoever, they just work and i only realised how well when i put the two of them together and swiped the carousel, the sensation was about 10fps better off, very noticable when you compare them, i really hope the dev's get their heads together on this.
Try ledriod mega quick
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Try ledriod mega quick
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Yea i'm using Leedroid at the moment, it is the fastest rom out there for the GSM EVO3D but i think there is still room for improvement.
This may have been mentioned here before, but I didn't find any threads about it.
I have been using the AT&T Note since about a week before it was available. I absolutely love my Note and it's the best phone I have owned. Lately, though, the laggy performance has been getting to me. There are little delays everywhere: Unlocking the screen, scrolling between home screens, opening messaging, etc.
Truth is, I never realized how bad it was until I started up my Skyrocket and started using it. The difference is night and day. I tried a few custom launchers, but the results are the same. I suppose it could be attributed to the higher resolution display, but the delays add up and get to be frustrating.
Seriously considering going back to my Skyrocket until ICS comes out for the Note. Anyone else have any insight? Is there something I'm missing? I'm pretty sure it's not any of the apps I have installed and I'm on stock ROM. I did notice that the available RAM is always low, even after a "clean RAM". Maybe that contributes to the overall sluggishness.
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This may have been mentioned here before, but I didn't find any threads about it.
I have been using the AT&T Note since about a week before it was available. I absolutely love my Note and it's the best phone I have owned. Lately, though, the laggy performance has been getting to me. There are little delays everywhere: Unlocking the screen, scrolling between home screens, opening messaging, etc.
Truth is, I never realized how bad it was until I started up my Skyrocket and started using it. The difference is night and day. I tried a few custom launchers, but the results are the same. I suppose it could be attributed to the higher resolution display, but the delays add up and get to be frustrating.
Seriously considering going back to my Skyrocket until ICS comes out for the Note. Anyone else have any insight? Is there something I'm missing? I'm pretty sure it's not any of the apps I have installed and I'm on stock ROM. I did notice that the available RAM is always low, even after a "clean RAM". Maybe that contributes to the overall sluggishness.
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Haven't seen any other threads about lag around here either. But mine doesn't have the issues you discuss. OC and clean off the bloat and use a new launcher. Install a custom rom. If that doesn't satisfy you, get the international version or wait for the sgs III.
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Mine was bad. Remove most system apps. Nearly everything Samsung and att. Install custom launcher, remove touch wiz, run support charger scripts, Flash custom ROM then OC KERNEL, done.
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Thanks, guys. I was hoping not to go the custom ROM route, with ICS right around the corner, but it may prove necessary. Seems like it has the same bloatware as the Skyrocket, so with both at stock, I don't understand why the Skyrocket is so much smoother with so much more free RAM.
International Note isn't an option. No way I could give up LTE. I get 40-50 Mbps download consistently where I'm at.
Note all note created equal
I'm going through 4 note I exchanged 2 of them the last 2 got is very smooth and I'm still on stock rom not root
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TSF Launcher, Launcher pro & Go Launcher. TSF has no lag, Launcher pro & Go are strange.. I'll explain.
I had my first Note, and the only Launcher pro had no lag, and not on my third note, it's go launcher that has no problems, and launcher pro lags a bit. TSF however is lag free. Dev support for TSF is terrible though.
I went through notes because of hardware issues, one the speaker busted, and the other had really bad color banding on dark screens.
I'm running go launcher, right now with little to no lag.
1.5ghz dualcore snapdragon s3 processors in both the skyrocket and note. The note has higher resolution which causes the phone to lag slightly more than the skyrocket. That is why the Exynos processor in the international is favored. If you dont want to flash a rom, try using a launcher from market. Im using launcher pro and theres less lag compared to touchwiz. Also uses less rams compared to tw.
-Once you go NOTE, you'd say 4 inches a Joke
I'd like to see an overclocked Snapdragon Note and overclocked Exynos Note go head-to-head. See which is the better performer at top overclock.
Even after Da_g's overclock I was a little perturbed over lag when scrolling with multiple widgets. I couldn't shake the thought of ICS's gpu acceleration.
I'm now running Saurom RC4 and the 1000hp V6 Supercharger script (I'm a noob, took me about half an hour of reading and execution tonight) and it's now running very smoothly. I'll have to see wait till tomorrow if the battery will improve any with the super script but right now it's junk. ( 3.5/ 4 hours screen time, which isn't bad if I except I'm between work contracts right now, so lots of free time and use this thing as my primary device all day).
I've also reinstalled Go Launcher EX after previously turfing it over lag, I'm now loving it.
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TSF Launcher, Launcher pro & Go Launcher. TSF has no lag, Launcher pro & Go are strange.. I'll explain.
I had my first Note, and the only Launcher pro had no lag, and not on my third note, it's go launcher that has no problems, and launcher pro lags a bit. TSF however is lag free. Dev support for TSF is terrible though.
I went through notes because of hardware issues, one the speaker busted, and the other had really bad color banding on dark screens.
I'm running go launcher, right now with little to no lag.
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I have to thank you. I have had go launcher installed on previous phones and installed it on the Gnote. It made a big difference and I really like it. They've really improved go launcher since the last time I used it.
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I have to thank you. I have had go launcher installed on previous phones and installed it on the Gnote. It made a big difference and I really like it. They've really improved go launcher since the last time I used it.
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If TSF devs would get their act together I would give them 2 thumbs up, but I can't get en email reply to save my life!
Thremix said:
TSF Launcher, Launcher pro & Go Launcher. TSF has no lag, Launcher pro & Go are strange.. I'll explain.
I had my first Note, and the only Launcher pro had no lag, and not on my third note, it's go launcher that has no problems, and launcher pro lags a bit. TSF however is lag free. Dev support for TSF is terrible though.
I went through notes because of hardware issues, one the speaker busted, and the other had really bad color banding on dark screens.
I'm running go launcher, right now with little to no lag.
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So you're running STOCK with Go Launcher and you have less lag then with Touchwiz?
I had Go Launcher initially, but I don't remember it being less laggy. I did experience an extra battery drain from it, though.
I have been using my Skyrocket for a few days and it's incredibly fast compared to my note. I compared them side-by-side last night, launching the same apps and performing the same tasks and sometimes the Note would have a 1-2 second delay, where the Skyrocket would be instant.
Love the idea of the Note and the hardware, but the lag drives me nuts. I was hoping ICS would come out soon and the GUI hardware acceleration would fix it, but it looks like the update will be delayed, as usual.
you want 100% no lag, TSF Launcher.
Got my note last weekend and it has been pretty laggy at times. Last night I froze all the AT&T and Samsung bloatware. Didn't really expect any difference. I unlocked my phone for the first time and instantly noticed how smooth it was. The stock browser is much quicker than before and Touchwiz is now super smooth. I am rooted on stock kernal and ROM.
Is there a list somewhere of all the apps and processes that you can delete and stop from running? I'm all stock using Go Launcher. I wouldn't say I'm bothered by lag but I do get it occasionally. In total I have 27 applications listed under 'running'. 262MB RAM used, 354MB Free. This is immediately after reboot. Before I rebooted (calendar wouldn't open) I had about 100MB RAM free. So apparently I need to be sure to reboot occasionally to clear RAM, but I know there's much more I can do. I want to stay stock for now at least as I've only had this a week.
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Love the idea of the Note and the hardware, but the lag drives me nuts. I was hoping ICS would come out soon and the GUI hardware acceleration would fix it, but it looks like the update will be delayed, as usual.
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something a custom rom could fix?
heard good things about V2
just waiting on V2 before I do my first custom rom install
If your note is laggy I would do a reset,mine got real laggy about a week after I got it,the camera would actually take 10-15 seconds to snap a photo,I reset mine about 3 weeks ago and just ran side by side test with my skyrocket,some apps the skyrocket opens a flash quicker some apps the note opens a flash quicker,the note camera is actually faster then the skyrocket camera now.
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Is there a list somewhere of all the apps and processes that you can delete and stop from running?
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See this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1513028
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Yup, I can't believe how laggy my phone is.
Bataga said:
Yup, I can't believe how laggy my phone is.
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But you see...some people clearly do have issues. The goal is figuring out how to unlock the potential and performance like you have. Are you stock? How good can you get stock?
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I picked up 2 Flyers recently from Cowboom and one of the first things I did was root and flash a custom rom. After setting everything up how I wanted it, I have come to find that the Flyer is sluggish in a lot of things, like scrolling around, switching apps, opening new apps, etc.
I understand that it's a single core processor but is this normal? I am running the latest LeeDroid rom.
Thanks
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Not it's not normal. It may be single core, but it's much faster than most single cores. It's fairly comparable to dual cores, and you can flash an overclocked kernel. Mine isn't sluggish.
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Not it's not normal. It may be single core, but it's much faster than most single cores. It's fairly comparable to dual cores, and you can flash an overclocked kernel. Mine isn't sluggish.
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Hmmm any recommendations on kernels? I flashed LeeDroid's kernel but haven't tweaked. Should I?
Opening the app drawer is obviously skipping frames, zoom in/zoom out too.. as well as browser scrolling.. extremely lagged.
Overclocking won't fix that. I don't know what you have loaded. Some people put 2000 animated widgets and 200 apps on a tablet, then say,"its laggy". Guarantee there ain't a device on the planet that won't bog down under that. If you are using it in a sensible manner it should be very snappy. The home screens and most of the GUI is rendered by the GPU so overclocking will do very little for you since the GPU doesn't overclock. That's also one of the big reasons that dual core devices don't perform any better. Try removing a bunch of apps and widgets and see how it behaves. If that doesn't work, Id try a different ROM.
Download Advanced task manager
Here is the Link :https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.infolife.taskmanager&hl=en
It shows the RAM u got free. When i kill all my apps, i get about 400+ RAM free and then it runs very smooth. It becomes sluggish when you hit the lower 300's. So just kill unecessary apps and you won't have a problem. I supposed you could go back to Gingerbread (it uses less resources) or try a different honeycomb ROM like CoolHoney 3D. If you REALLY want smoothness and can live without the Pen and Camera, you should try the ICS ROMS. They still in developement, but most are functional and very very smooth.
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Overclocking won't fix that. I don't know what you have loaded. Some people put 2000 animated widgets and 200 apps on a tablet, then say,"its laggy". Guarantee there ain't a device on the planet that won't bog down under that. If you are using it in a sensible manner it should be very snappy. The home screens and most of the GUI is rendered by the GPU so overclocking will do very little for you since the GPU doesn't overclock. That's also one of the big reasons that dual core devices don't perform any better. Try removing a bunch of apps and widgets and see how it behaves. If that doesn't work, Id try a different ROM.
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Haha you should see my home screen...its just a few shortcuts and the Gmail inbox widget. Nothing more. Stock lock screen too.
I have no idea why it feels so sluggish. I'll try to get a video...
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The Flyer is sluggish. I have an Acer Iconia A100 also and it is much more responsive. I think that the culprit is Honeycomb and Sense combined.
Flyer running on the ICS ports is much, much more responsive but those ports cannot be used as daily drivers, IMO, at least for me.
For this reason, I hope either that the ports progress or that we somehow get AOSP ICS.
Honeycomb is garbage and Honeycomb with Sense slows things to a crawl.
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The Flyer is sluggish. I have an Acer Iconia A100 also and it is much more responsive. I think that the culprit is Honeycomb and Sense combined.
Flyer running on the ICS ports is much, much more responsive but those ports cannot be used as daily drivers, IMO, at least for me.
For this reason, I hope either that the ports progress or that we somehow get AOSP ICS.
Honeycomb is garbage and Honeycomb with Sense slows things to a crawl.
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I am on LeeDroid with sense stripped.. I'm pretty sure there are still components there, but coming from Samsung products I am not sure how involved Sense is compared to TouchWiz (Samsung's crap).
It's not that the tablet is slow, it is like it just has trouble keeping up sometimes. It's very hit or miss. I guess it's expected from a $150 tablet.
Seems to be personal opinion and maybe experience. I run the stock HC rooted and have no lag , no slow downs, no problems. Other complains of these. I had and sold my Acer A100 because i hated the screen on it. Found the Acer to be slower in almost everything compared to the Flyer. So your mileage may very.
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Seems to be personal opinion and maybe experience. I run the stock HC rooted and have no lag , no slow downs, no problems. Other complains of these. I had and sold my Acer A100 because i hated the screen on it. Found the Acer to be slower in almost everything compared to the Flyer. So your mileage may very.
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The Flyer is fine for apps. It is the user interface that lags. This is very obvious when compared to the A100, especially now that the A100 has ICS. And, yes, the screen on the A100 is horrible (as is the build quality overall).
Well some people say this and I believe them, but its certainly not universal, and its certainly not obvious on my HC Flyer. I see no lag. Its very smooth and quick. I never had ICS on the A100, but the Flyer was clearly faster for most apps, as it should be with a faster base processor speed.
I'm going to try a different launcher and see if that helps. Are there any recommended HC launchers?
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ADW EX works well, I use it for a pretty display when I do not need anything that Sense provides. There are several others.
Any launcher close to stock honeycomb that doesn't add an extra notification bar? Or atleast replaces it?
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Any launcher close to stock honeycomb that doesn't add an extra notification bar? Or atleast replaces it?
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The HC notification bar is part of the system, not part of the launcher. You cannot safely eliminate it or replace it. There are some hack apps that hide it, but they can cause compatibility problems.
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Any launcher close to stock honeycomb that doesn't add an extra notification bar? Or atleast replaces it?
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I believe you may be talking about the extra bar on top that many nonnative apps and launchers add to 7inch hc tablets. Unfortunately you'll just have to look around. I use xeam which allows icons up to the screen edges.
About laggyness: I experienced a huge amount of lag after some rom installs. This shouldn't be the case but leedros rom was very slow even after a couple months usage. I use the senseless hc rom now and its noticeably faster.
If you want to see blazing speed, downgrade and install the CM7 1.1 rom. I would switch in a heartbeat if pen worked properly.
Yeah I use the pen for work so I can't go to GB/CM/ICS, unfortunately
Are there any tablet-oriented UIs out? I do see that new one Chameleon but that's not out yet.. all of the launchers I'm finding are just larger phone launchers, like Go Launcher EX HD, ADW EX, etc.
I thought it was fast until I played with my bothers ipad and my dads playbook. Really smooth scrolling web pages and stuff compared to mine.
The best I managed to do was use setcpu to set the minimum cpu freq to like 800MHz, which helped.
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I thought it was fast until I played with my bothers ipad and my dads playbook. Really smooth scrolling web pages and stuff compared to mine.
The best I managed to do was use setcpu to set the minimum cpu freq to like 800MHz, which helped.
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Tell your father to throw anything blackberry related out of the house . Anyway, just install a custom ROM. DeSensified v3 and CoolHoney 3d V4 are the best two i tried so far, if you kill all running apps, you have about 400+ RAM free and only ocasional lag, but not on the UI. Keep in mind that honeycomb uses alot more resources than others and HTC just threw it together in a few min.
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Yeah I use the pen for work so I can't go to GB/CM/ICS, unfortunately
Are there any tablet-oriented UIs out? I do see that new one Chameleon but that's not out yet.. all of the launchers I'm finding are just larger phone launchers, like Go Launcher EX HD, ADW EX, etc.
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You can try VTL Launcher, it's not developed anymore afaik but works fine except for some occasional bugs. It's pretty much what I would want from a homescreen, very customizable, uses ADW icon sets and gives you the whole screen without any wasted space.
I have tried every ROM available, senseless or with sense; and whenever I run Apex or Nova, the scrolling is low quality, laggy, and choppy. I've tried setting different scrolling times with no avail. Is their some sort of optimization that stock ics has that sense phones don't? I'd love to know if I can fix the issue, or at least figure out what's causing it.
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apex on nils business runs perfect for me. scroll times are set to 1
dyetheskin said:
apex on nils business runs perfect for me. scroll times are set to 1
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Guess I'm going to give Nils' rom a shot. Ill report back, thanks :3.
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dyetheskin said:
apex on nils business runs perfect for me. scroll times are set to 1
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Did you install it or push to /system/?
I've used Apex Launcher on CleanROM and am currently using it on Newts OnE XxX. I've never had a problem with it being slow/laggy/choppy on either.
epsilonomega said:
I've used Apex Launcher on CleanROM and am currently using it on Newts OnE XxX. I've never had a problem with it being slow/laggy/choppy on either.
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You beat me to it!! lol I'm using the same ROM with Apex and its smooth as butter.
Guess i should change my sig....
epsilonomega said:
I've used Apex Launcher on CleanROM and am currently using it on Newts OnE XxX. I've never had a problem with it being slow/laggy/choppy on either.
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I don't get it! I'm on One XxX and its choppy and the scrolling is very low fps.
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Insidious said:
I don't get it! I'm on One XxX and its choppy and the scrolling is very low fps.
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People's perceptions vary. It's the same for them as it is for you. They've probably never seen the launchers running at a full 60 fps on a Galaxy Nexus and have no clue they're getting subpar performance.
It seems to boil down to unimplemented acceleration for some functions in the graphics driver (if sense doesn't use it, they don't need to support it). Don't bother with the 218 drivers, either, they aren't any better.
i dont know why more people dont use nova.. its the smoothest launcher for me.
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That's why I left Apex for LauncherPro. Not ICS, but fast as hell.
I emailed the programmer for Nova and he told me it might have something to do with our leaks not including the proper 3D or graphics libraries.
I do know exactly what you mean, when flipping desktops with Sense, it looks like we get 60 frames per second and it's super smooth. With Apex, Nova or GO, it's still fast but the framerate drops down a LOT.
What's weird is that when opening the app drawer, all those launchers become really fast and really smooth. It's only when flipping desktop pages. Even with no wallpaper scroll it's choppy.
Same problem here. I tried flashing the Adreno 220 update but it lowered benchmark scores and didn't improve the responsiveness of Apex.
Guess I'm stuck with Ultrasmooth Rosie, I don't really like the Sense app drawer (neither 3.6 nor 4.0) but I'll take 60fps over 10fps.
Nic2112 said:
I emailed the programmer for Nova and he told me it might have something to do with our leaks not including the proper 3D or graphics libraries.
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My thought was that the libraries just fell back to software for some functions, and that was why it was slow. We certainly have the necessary library files, but that doesn't mean all the hooks were properly implemented.
What's weird is that when opening the app drawer, all those launchers become really fast and really smooth. It's only when flipping desktop pages. Even with no wallpaper scroll it's choppy.
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For me, the app drawer in Nova is choppy until you get to the widgets section, which is ultra smooth. Apex's app drawer is adequately fast. Both home screens are terrible, though.
This is also quite irksome for me because it also seems to affect Chrome's performance, and I'd really like to use that.
One can only hope at this stage that the official OTA is different and properly accelerates the missing drawing functions.
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People's perceptions vary. It's the same for them as it is for you. They've probably never seen the launchers running at a full 60 fps on a Galaxy Nexus and have no clue they're getting subpar performance.
It seems to boil down to unimplemented acceleration for some functions in the graphics driver (if sense doesn't use it, they don't need to support it). Don't bother with the 218 drivers, either, they aren't any better.
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Actually I have used a Galaxy Nexus, and the only thing that my Rezound does not compare too would be Jelly Bean on the Nexus. I switched things up lately though to sense 3.6 to run Tablet mode again though and I Still dont have any performance issues, Even on Apex Launcher. Both on Sense 4 and on 3.6.
Although I would agree that when running Tablet mode, Nova runs a tad choppy, but Apex is still beasting it!
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Actually I have used a Galaxy Nexus, and the only thing that my Rezound does not compare too would be Jelly Bean on the Nexus. I switched things up lately though to sense 3.6 to run Tablet mode again though and I Still dont have any performance issues, Even on Apex Launcher. Both on Sense 4 and on 3.6.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus, too, and the home screen was much smoother when scrolling. Are you saying you're getting 60 fps with your Rezound?
What about with Chrome? Is your scrolling there 60 fps or does it stutter?
I'm curious about the Droid Incredible 4g now, too. I'm wondering if it does or doesn't have this issue. I pulled the Adreno drivers from its image and tried them and it makes no difference on this phone.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus, too, and the home screen was much smoother when scrolling. Are you saying you're getting 60 fps with your Rezound?
What about with Chrome? Is your scrolling there 60 fps or does it stutter?
I'm curious about the Droid Incredible 4g now, too. I'm wondering if it does or doesn't have this issue. I pulled the Adreno drivers from its image and tried them and it makes no difference on this phone.
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So far its super smooth, I have a friend I work with too that has a Nexus and he says I did a good job setting up. We did side by sides and it keeps up very well with his ICS Nexus, then he Put JB on and I lose lol.
For Chrome I dont know, I never use it, I use stock ICS Browser or even ICS + (The Stock runs better than ICS + [Although I'm sure they are the exact same thing?]). Only issue I have is that stuff shows up kinda small since I'm running Tablet Mode now.
Also what's the purpose of the Adreno drivers? I read the thread on it a while back when they first pulled them from some other device, but dont remember what they were for.
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So far its super smooth, I have a friend I work with too that has a Nexus and he says I did a good job setting up. We did side by sides and it keeps up very well with his ICS Nexus, then he Put JB on and I lose lol.
For Chrome I dont know, I never use it, I use stock ICS Browser or even ICS + (The Stock runs better than ICS + [Although I'm sure they are the exact same thing?]). Only issue I have is that stuff shows up kinda small since I'm running Tablet Mode now.
Also what's the purpose of the Adreno drivers? I read the thread on it a while back when they first pulled them from some other device, but dont remember what they were for.
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Saying it's "super smooth" doesn't mean anything, because it might mean something different to you than us. I was looking to quantify things. If you know what 60 fps looks like, you can definitely say whether or not you're achieving that. I can say that this phone does not reach 60 fps in the cases I mentioned. A Galaxy Nexus does.
I use ICS Browser+ as well, as it doesn't seem to suffer from the stuttering issue. If you're willing to test, it's simple enough to download Chrome and check if scrolling is smooth like it is in the stock browser or ICS Browser+.
The Adreno drivers are just that: the drivers for the Adreno 200 series of graphics hardware. They are an implementation of EGL and OpenGL ES for the GPU in the phone. The theory was, being newer, that they would be faster or have improved acceleration and/or power management. From testing, I haven't seen any qualitative benefits to using anything other than the stock drivers, and people have said their benchmark numbers aren't any different, either.
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Saying it's "super smooth" doesn't mean anything, because it might mean something different to you than us. I was looking to quantify things. If you know what 60 fps looks like, you can definitely say whether or not you're achieving that. I can say that this phone does not reach 60 fps in the cases I mentioned. A Galaxy Nexus does.
I use ICS Browser+ as well, as it doesn't seem to suffer from the stuttering issue. If you're willing to test, it's simple enough to download Chrome and check if scrolling is smooth like it is in the stock browser or ICS Browser+.
The Adreno drivers are just that: the drivers for the Adreno 200 series of graphics hardware. They are an implementation of EGL and OpenGL ES for the GPU in the phone. The theory was, being newer, that they would be faster or have improved acceleration and/or power management. From testing, I haven't seen any qualitative benefits to using anything other than the stock drivers, and people have said their benchmark numbers aren't any different, either.
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I agree with you that saying Super Smooth doesnt really mean much to everyone else, but without any real method of measuring the true FPS at the moment makes it even tougher. Although I can truthfully say that it seems to be matching the smoothness of the Nexus so far, if its not a full 60fps then its pretty DARN close lol.
For Chrome I'll be testing in a few when I get out from work and I'll post what my findings are. Never used Chrome on Phone mode or Tablet mode lol.
I might try out those Drivers see if it makes it even better....ish? Although If you guys havent had much luck with your rezounds then I assume I won't have much luck either. Either way i'll Try that out too. Anyone have a link to it?
Yep, this was the main reason why I stopped using de-sensed roms with apex/nova/trebuchet and switched to sense roms. Just couldn't take the choppiness anymore
Anyone have the latest apk for chrome. I can't get it off the market. Says not compatible. Much thanks in advance