I picked up 2 Flyers recently from Cowboom and one of the first things I did was root and flash a custom rom. After setting everything up how I wanted it, I have come to find that the Flyer is sluggish in a lot of things, like scrolling around, switching apps, opening new apps, etc.
I understand that it's a single core processor but is this normal? I am running the latest LeeDroid rom.
Thanks
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Not it's not normal. It may be single core, but it's much faster than most single cores. It's fairly comparable to dual cores, and you can flash an overclocked kernel. Mine isn't sluggish.
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Not it's not normal. It may be single core, but it's much faster than most single cores. It's fairly comparable to dual cores, and you can flash an overclocked kernel. Mine isn't sluggish.
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Hmmm any recommendations on kernels? I flashed LeeDroid's kernel but haven't tweaked. Should I?
Opening the app drawer is obviously skipping frames, zoom in/zoom out too.. as well as browser scrolling.. extremely lagged.
Overclocking won't fix that. I don't know what you have loaded. Some people put 2000 animated widgets and 200 apps on a tablet, then say,"its laggy". Guarantee there ain't a device on the planet that won't bog down under that. If you are using it in a sensible manner it should be very snappy. The home screens and most of the GUI is rendered by the GPU so overclocking will do very little for you since the GPU doesn't overclock. That's also one of the big reasons that dual core devices don't perform any better. Try removing a bunch of apps and widgets and see how it behaves. If that doesn't work, Id try a different ROM.
Download Advanced task manager
Here is the Link :https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.infolife.taskmanager&hl=en
It shows the RAM u got free. When i kill all my apps, i get about 400+ RAM free and then it runs very smooth. It becomes sluggish when you hit the lower 300's. So just kill unecessary apps and you won't have a problem. I supposed you could go back to Gingerbread (it uses less resources) or try a different honeycomb ROM like CoolHoney 3D. If you REALLY want smoothness and can live without the Pen and Camera, you should try the ICS ROMS. They still in developement, but most are functional and very very smooth.
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Overclocking won't fix that. I don't know what you have loaded. Some people put 2000 animated widgets and 200 apps on a tablet, then say,"its laggy". Guarantee there ain't a device on the planet that won't bog down under that. If you are using it in a sensible manner it should be very snappy. The home screens and most of the GUI is rendered by the GPU so overclocking will do very little for you since the GPU doesn't overclock. That's also one of the big reasons that dual core devices don't perform any better. Try removing a bunch of apps and widgets and see how it behaves. If that doesn't work, Id try a different ROM.
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Haha you should see my home screen...its just a few shortcuts and the Gmail inbox widget. Nothing more. Stock lock screen too.
I have no idea why it feels so sluggish. I'll try to get a video...
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The Flyer is sluggish. I have an Acer Iconia A100 also and it is much more responsive. I think that the culprit is Honeycomb and Sense combined.
Flyer running on the ICS ports is much, much more responsive but those ports cannot be used as daily drivers, IMO, at least for me.
For this reason, I hope either that the ports progress or that we somehow get AOSP ICS.
Honeycomb is garbage and Honeycomb with Sense slows things to a crawl.
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The Flyer is sluggish. I have an Acer Iconia A100 also and it is much more responsive. I think that the culprit is Honeycomb and Sense combined.
Flyer running on the ICS ports is much, much more responsive but those ports cannot be used as daily drivers, IMO, at least for me.
For this reason, I hope either that the ports progress or that we somehow get AOSP ICS.
Honeycomb is garbage and Honeycomb with Sense slows things to a crawl.
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I am on LeeDroid with sense stripped.. I'm pretty sure there are still components there, but coming from Samsung products I am not sure how involved Sense is compared to TouchWiz (Samsung's crap).
It's not that the tablet is slow, it is like it just has trouble keeping up sometimes. It's very hit or miss. I guess it's expected from a $150 tablet.
Seems to be personal opinion and maybe experience. I run the stock HC rooted and have no lag , no slow downs, no problems. Other complains of these. I had and sold my Acer A100 because i hated the screen on it. Found the Acer to be slower in almost everything compared to the Flyer. So your mileage may very.
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Seems to be personal opinion and maybe experience. I run the stock HC rooted and have no lag , no slow downs, no problems. Other complains of these. I had and sold my Acer A100 because i hated the screen on it. Found the Acer to be slower in almost everything compared to the Flyer. So your mileage may very.
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The Flyer is fine for apps. It is the user interface that lags. This is very obvious when compared to the A100, especially now that the A100 has ICS. And, yes, the screen on the A100 is horrible (as is the build quality overall).
Well some people say this and I believe them, but its certainly not universal, and its certainly not obvious on my HC Flyer. I see no lag. Its very smooth and quick. I never had ICS on the A100, but the Flyer was clearly faster for most apps, as it should be with a faster base processor speed.
I'm going to try a different launcher and see if that helps. Are there any recommended HC launchers?
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ADW EX works well, I use it for a pretty display when I do not need anything that Sense provides. There are several others.
Any launcher close to stock honeycomb that doesn't add an extra notification bar? Or atleast replaces it?
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Any launcher close to stock honeycomb that doesn't add an extra notification bar? Or atleast replaces it?
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The HC notification bar is part of the system, not part of the launcher. You cannot safely eliminate it or replace it. There are some hack apps that hide it, but they can cause compatibility problems.
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Any launcher close to stock honeycomb that doesn't add an extra notification bar? Or atleast replaces it?
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I believe you may be talking about the extra bar on top that many nonnative apps and launchers add to 7inch hc tablets. Unfortunately you'll just have to look around. I use xeam which allows icons up to the screen edges.
About laggyness: I experienced a huge amount of lag after some rom installs. This shouldn't be the case but leedros rom was very slow even after a couple months usage. I use the senseless hc rom now and its noticeably faster.
If you want to see blazing speed, downgrade and install the CM7 1.1 rom. I would switch in a heartbeat if pen worked properly.
Yeah I use the pen for work so I can't go to GB/CM/ICS, unfortunately
Are there any tablet-oriented UIs out? I do see that new one Chameleon but that's not out yet.. all of the launchers I'm finding are just larger phone launchers, like Go Launcher EX HD, ADW EX, etc.
I thought it was fast until I played with my bothers ipad and my dads playbook. Really smooth scrolling web pages and stuff compared to mine.
The best I managed to do was use setcpu to set the minimum cpu freq to like 800MHz, which helped.
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I thought it was fast until I played with my bothers ipad and my dads playbook. Really smooth scrolling web pages and stuff compared to mine.
The best I managed to do was use setcpu to set the minimum cpu freq to like 800MHz, which helped.
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Tell your father to throw anything blackberry related out of the house . Anyway, just install a custom ROM. DeSensified v3 and CoolHoney 3d V4 are the best two i tried so far, if you kill all running apps, you have about 400+ RAM free and only ocasional lag, but not on the UI. Keep in mind that honeycomb uses alot more resources than others and HTC just threw it together in a few min.
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Yeah I use the pen for work so I can't go to GB/CM/ICS, unfortunately
Are there any tablet-oriented UIs out? I do see that new one Chameleon but that's not out yet.. all of the launchers I'm finding are just larger phone launchers, like Go Launcher EX HD, ADW EX, etc.
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You can try VTL Launcher, it's not developed anymore afaik but works fine except for some occasional bugs. It's pretty much what I would want from a homescreen, very customizable, uses ADW icon sets and gives you the whole screen without any wasted space.
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So now that the GB ROMs seem to be in full swing.....
What are the pros and cons vs Froyo?
Well, I went from Froyo to GB and for me:
Much faster and smoother
Almost no lag, you would think it was a 1Ghz phone
WIFI and GPS locks on almost instantly and does not drop out.
3G data rate is mouch more consistent
I have been waiting patiently for the Thunderbolt, and this rom will make the wait much easier
Thanks to Workshed for an amazing rom.
There is really not a whole lot different, besides looks. The GB keyboard is better. I could really use either one in a pinch, though right now I am using GSB myself.
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There is really not a whole lot different, besides looks. The GB keyboard is better. I could really use either one in a pinch, though right now I am using GSB myself.
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That's actually not true at all, there are quite a few differences. Workshed's rom uses the latest CM7 nightly (RC1). Tazz's rom uses ADW as the default home launcher, Workshed's uses LauncherPro. Not sure of the numbers but both roms come overclocked at different numbers. Workshed's rom comes with an extra theme (Mau5KANG). There are quite a few differences but my suggestion honestly is to try them both for about 5 days each and see which one you like best ! Hope all this helps.
Its the little things;
Theme Manager has great potential, change themes on the fly
Better memory management. I no longer use autokiller.
App Management in settings, populates fast and is more user friendly. Great for killing stubborn or hung apps without the need for 3rd party app. (Older versions were slow and clunky).
Built in CPU manager clock speed and governor.
Auto bright setting controls seem much improved IMO.
More lockscreen options.
Overall responsiveness improved, providing better user experience.
Active development. More options and improvements still to come.
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That's actually not true at all, there are quite a few differences. Workshed's rom uses the latest CM7 nightly (RC1). Tazz's rom uses ADW as the default home launcher, Workshed's uses LauncherPro. Not sure of the numbers but both roms come overclocked at different numbers. Workshed's rom comes with an extra theme (Mau5KANG). There are quite a few differences but my suggestion honestly is to try them both for about 5 days each and see which one you like best ! Hope all this helps.
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He asked the pros and cons between Gingerbread and Froyo, not between the two GB ROMs - and that's what my post was answering.
Thanks for the info, any input is appreciated.
My biggest concern is speed.
I have flashed a lot of ROMs over the past year or so. I have found regardless of the ROM when my available memory drops below 50M my phone gets laggy. I started using Go Launcher about a month ago and really like it (running app tab is great). I see apps running in the background that I know I haven't used like facebook, youtube and Pandora. Autokiller does not seem to be doing a good job squashing them. I want Pandora on my phone I just only want it running when I am using it.
Conapp, Tazz, Kaos and Shed have all been great and very responsive to questions or issues with their ROMs
I think it is time to give GB a run.
GB does a great job managing memory and terminating background apps. Never get the slow Downs like I did on 2.1 or 2.2
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I have flashed a lot of ROMs over the past year or so. I have found regardless of the ROM when my available memory drops below 50M my phone gets laggy.
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As part of the upgrade, look into flashing xtrcache2cache, which will free up a lot of memory for data and apps - probably about 30 MB or so. If you do use it, you just have to remember to re-flash it after updating the ROM. So,
- flash GSB
- flash gapps (mandatory, even for no wipe updates)
- flash cache2cache
It's here, and works just fine with GSB: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=924562
Ok, one more advantage to GB, and this, to me, is a big one, is cursor placement/text selection. It's much better - I actually like it more than iOS's tap/hold/magnifying glass.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
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Ok, one more advantage to GB, and this, to me, is a big one, is cursor placement/text selection. It's much better - I actually like it more than iOS's tap/hold/magnifying glass.
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html
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Ah! That helps answer a concern of mine wondering how easy it will be to get used to not having a trackball when I do eventually (probably not for a year) upgrade from the Eris. I don't use the trackball a lot, but for fine adjustments to text selections, it certainly has helped.
i am finding GB to be much faster and my battery life seems to be better.
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I'm a fairly new Galaxy Tab 10.1 user (had it for a few weeks, from the woot deal). I'm not new to android, however. I'm currently running the Task 7 ROM, but this issue seems to be present in all ROMs I've tried so far (including stock). Transition screens (when it zooms to launch an app), panning between home screens, scrolling in emails, etc. are all jerky.
I've seen threads about jerky video playback (movies), but I haven't seen much about this. I have to figure this either isn't happening to anyone else, or it's happening to everyone and people have just accepted it by now. Is there a fix for this? A kernel, or ROM, perhaps? Coming from an iPad, the jerkiness is very apparent, and it is really bothering me.
Thanks in advance...
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I'm a fairly new Galaxy Tab 10.1 user (had it for a few weeks, from the woot deal). I'm not new to android, however. I'm currently running the Task 7 ROM, but this issue seems to be present in all ROMs I've tried so far (including stock). Transition screens (when it zooms to launch an app), panning between home screens, scrolling in emails, etc. are all jerky.
I've seen threads about jerky video playback (movies), but I haven't seen much about this. I have to figure this either isn't happening to anyone else, or it's happening to everyone and people have just accepted it by now. Is there a fix for this? A kernel, or ROM, perhaps? Coming from an iPad, the jerkiness is very apparent, and it is really bothering me.
Thanks in advance...
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I recommend getting a home screen replacement, like adw ex. That will get you silky smooth homescreen transitions. As far as any other lag, it can probably be fixed by overclocking. Tasks newest rom includes pershoots OC kernel, but make sure you do your homework before delving into overclocking.
At the moment my tab is running at 1.4 GHz and I haven't seen any lag, although you are correct that the device can be pretty jerky without using some of the great mods available here.
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I recommend getting a home screen replacement, like adw ex. That will get you silky smooth homescreen transitions. As far as any other lag, it can probably be fixed by overclocking. Tasks newest rom includes pershoots OC kernel, but make sure you do your homework before delving into overclocking.
At the moment my tab is running at 1.4 GHz and I haven't seen any lag, although you are correct that the device can be pretty jerky without using some of the great mods available here.
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I am running ADW EX. It dramatically improved the jerkiness, but it's still there. I mainly notice it when launching apps. The swiping between homescreens is not as noticeable.
I was hoping to not have to OC to fix the issue. In my experience (with phones) it usually leads to some other kind of instability...
Any other ideas? Could it be that the clock speed is dropping too low when nothing on the screen is moving, and doesn't spool back up fast enough?
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I am running ADW EX. It dramatically improved the jerkiness, but it's still there. I mainly notice it when launching apps. The swiping between homescreens is not as noticeable.
I was hoping to not have to OC to fix the issue. In my experience (with phones) it usually leads to some other kind of instability...
Any other ideas? Could it be that the clock speed is dropping too low when nothing on the screen is moving, and doesn't spool back up fast enough?
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Yeah you could play around with different governors, although pershoot's kernels generally have optimal default settings.
As for your choice to not overclock, I can understand why you don't want to, (as I have a fascinate and it's all to easy to cause instability) however pershoot did a ridiculously good job. Paired with setcpu you really only have to move the slider to your desired clock and your good to go, I've never actually had a random reboot or sleep of death with this tablet at 1.4 GHz. If you only did a slight overclock I really don't think you will regret it...
Edit: Also keep in mind that this tablet allows widgets on the homescreen, and by default it uses non uniform icons. For this reason you should not be comparing it to an iPad. At the moment I'm running with the suave hd icon pack (uniform icons) with minimal widgets and it's just as smooth as an iPad. (but also more useful).
Also a small tip, turn off wallpaper scrolling in ADW, it makes it seem so much more laggy than it really is.
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It will never be the same as an iOS device. Post 64 of the thread about ICS removing lag is helpful in shedding light on why. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20458845&postcount=64
Either overclock and live with a bit of it or get a plain uncustomizable iPad (talking homescreens).
That being said with pershoots kernel and supercharger/kernelizer/zipalign scripts the performance is noticably improved over stock and more than acceptable for many of us.
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It will never be the same as an iOS device. Post 64 of the thread about ICS removing lag is helpful in shedding light on why. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20458845&postcount=64
Either overclock and live with a bit of it or get a plain uncustomizable iPad (talking homescreens).
That being said with pershoots kernel and supercharger/kernelizer/zipalign scripts the performance is noticably improved over stock and more than acceptable for many of us.
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+1 this. If smooth homescreen performance is your #1 priority in a tablet, get an ipad. It's lower resolution and doesn't have widgets so it's sort of a no-brainer why homescreen performance is generally better.
Thanks for your input, everyone. It turns out that my issue is almost nonexistent when the screen is oriented in landscape mode. All transitions are smoother, scrolling is smoother, etc. Seems silly, but that's the case. Unfortunately, I use the tablet primarily in portrait mode, for magazine reading and puzzle games.
Dave
It's been said that this is a Honeycomb issue (portrait vs landscape scrolling lag) and that ICS should improve upon this. Many such as myself use our tablets primarily in landscape mode so we tend to overlook the issue but those who need to use the device in portrait do have to suffer with it for now.
Hi guys,
I recently purchased the EVO View 4G, mainly for the awesome pen input now that Honeycomb is working (and it really is awesome).
On my EVO 3D I use Go launcher Ex which works a charm and is super fast. However, I found that on my View it was painfully slow, especially things like browsing. With a 1.5 ghz processor I was wonder how the heck it could lag so badly loading web pages.
So, for grins I loaded up LauncherPro. All I can say is WOW, this thing FLIES now. Everything feels faster and lighter. Web pages load twice as fast with no hang.
So, if you have a View, are running Honeycomb and it seems slow, give LauncherPro Plus a whirl and see if you don't notice an instant difference.
Hey Mitch!!
It’s great to see you here.
I always enjoyed your input at MiksRoms.
I switch between Sense and GO Launcher-EX because I love the pen, but love the flexibility of Go Launcher. I see little or no difference in speed, they are both snappy as can be. Don't know what your launcher would have to do with your browser speed? Unless you are letting the launcher lock itself in memory and eat all the free space.
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I switch between Sense and GO Launcher-EX because I love the pen, but love the flexibility of Go Launcher. I see little or no difference in speed, they are both snappy as can be. Don't know what your launcher would have to do with your browser speed? Unless you are letting the launcher lock itself in memory and eat all the free space.
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Yeah seemed weird to me as well. However, Launchers play differently with different OS versions. Could be that Go Launcher manages resources differently or something. Nevertheless, the performance improvement is marked.
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Hey Mitch!!
It’s great to see you here.
I always enjoyed your input at MiksRoms.
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Hey man, good to see you too. Haven't been around much lately. Too much real life going on
I have tried every ROM available, senseless or with sense; and whenever I run Apex or Nova, the scrolling is low quality, laggy, and choppy. I've tried setting different scrolling times with no avail. Is their some sort of optimization that stock ics has that sense phones don't? I'd love to know if I can fix the issue, or at least figure out what's causing it.
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apex on nils business runs perfect for me. scroll times are set to 1
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apex on nils business runs perfect for me. scroll times are set to 1
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Guess I'm going to give Nils' rom a shot. Ill report back, thanks :3.
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apex on nils business runs perfect for me. scroll times are set to 1
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Did you install it or push to /system/?
I've used Apex Launcher on CleanROM and am currently using it on Newts OnE XxX. I've never had a problem with it being slow/laggy/choppy on either.
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I've used Apex Launcher on CleanROM and am currently using it on Newts OnE XxX. I've never had a problem with it being slow/laggy/choppy on either.
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You beat me to it!! lol I'm using the same ROM with Apex and its smooth as butter.
Guess i should change my sig....
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I've used Apex Launcher on CleanROM and am currently using it on Newts OnE XxX. I've never had a problem with it being slow/laggy/choppy on either.
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I don't get it! I'm on One XxX and its choppy and the scrolling is very low fps.
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I don't get it! I'm on One XxX and its choppy and the scrolling is very low fps.
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People's perceptions vary. It's the same for them as it is for you. They've probably never seen the launchers running at a full 60 fps on a Galaxy Nexus and have no clue they're getting subpar performance.
It seems to boil down to unimplemented acceleration for some functions in the graphics driver (if sense doesn't use it, they don't need to support it). Don't bother with the 218 drivers, either, they aren't any better.
i dont know why more people dont use nova.. its the smoothest launcher for me.
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That's why I left Apex for LauncherPro. Not ICS, but fast as hell.
I emailed the programmer for Nova and he told me it might have something to do with our leaks not including the proper 3D or graphics libraries.
I do know exactly what you mean, when flipping desktops with Sense, it looks like we get 60 frames per second and it's super smooth. With Apex, Nova or GO, it's still fast but the framerate drops down a LOT.
What's weird is that when opening the app drawer, all those launchers become really fast and really smooth. It's only when flipping desktop pages. Even with no wallpaper scroll it's choppy.
Same problem here. I tried flashing the Adreno 220 update but it lowered benchmark scores and didn't improve the responsiveness of Apex.
Guess I'm stuck with Ultrasmooth Rosie, I don't really like the Sense app drawer (neither 3.6 nor 4.0) but I'll take 60fps over 10fps.
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I emailed the programmer for Nova and he told me it might have something to do with our leaks not including the proper 3D or graphics libraries.
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My thought was that the libraries just fell back to software for some functions, and that was why it was slow. We certainly have the necessary library files, but that doesn't mean all the hooks were properly implemented.
What's weird is that when opening the app drawer, all those launchers become really fast and really smooth. It's only when flipping desktop pages. Even with no wallpaper scroll it's choppy.
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For me, the app drawer in Nova is choppy until you get to the widgets section, which is ultra smooth. Apex's app drawer is adequately fast. Both home screens are terrible, though.
This is also quite irksome for me because it also seems to affect Chrome's performance, and I'd really like to use that.
One can only hope at this stage that the official OTA is different and properly accelerates the missing drawing functions.
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People's perceptions vary. It's the same for them as it is for you. They've probably never seen the launchers running at a full 60 fps on a Galaxy Nexus and have no clue they're getting subpar performance.
It seems to boil down to unimplemented acceleration for some functions in the graphics driver (if sense doesn't use it, they don't need to support it). Don't bother with the 218 drivers, either, they aren't any better.
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Actually I have used a Galaxy Nexus, and the only thing that my Rezound does not compare too would be Jelly Bean on the Nexus. I switched things up lately though to sense 3.6 to run Tablet mode again though and I Still dont have any performance issues, Even on Apex Launcher. Both on Sense 4 and on 3.6.
Although I would agree that when running Tablet mode, Nova runs a tad choppy, but Apex is still beasting it!
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Actually I have used a Galaxy Nexus, and the only thing that my Rezound does not compare too would be Jelly Bean on the Nexus. I switched things up lately though to sense 3.6 to run Tablet mode again though and I Still dont have any performance issues, Even on Apex Launcher. Both on Sense 4 and on 3.6.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus, too, and the home screen was much smoother when scrolling. Are you saying you're getting 60 fps with your Rezound?
What about with Chrome? Is your scrolling there 60 fps or does it stutter?
I'm curious about the Droid Incredible 4g now, too. I'm wondering if it does or doesn't have this issue. I pulled the Adreno drivers from its image and tried them and it makes no difference on this phone.
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I had a Galaxy Nexus, too, and the home screen was much smoother when scrolling. Are you saying you're getting 60 fps with your Rezound?
What about with Chrome? Is your scrolling there 60 fps or does it stutter?
I'm curious about the Droid Incredible 4g now, too. I'm wondering if it does or doesn't have this issue. I pulled the Adreno drivers from its image and tried them and it makes no difference on this phone.
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So far its super smooth, I have a friend I work with too that has a Nexus and he says I did a good job setting up. We did side by sides and it keeps up very well with his ICS Nexus, then he Put JB on and I lose lol.
For Chrome I dont know, I never use it, I use stock ICS Browser or even ICS + (The Stock runs better than ICS + [Although I'm sure they are the exact same thing?]). Only issue I have is that stuff shows up kinda small since I'm running Tablet Mode now.
Also what's the purpose of the Adreno drivers? I read the thread on it a while back when they first pulled them from some other device, but dont remember what they were for.
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So far its super smooth, I have a friend I work with too that has a Nexus and he says I did a good job setting up. We did side by sides and it keeps up very well with his ICS Nexus, then he Put JB on and I lose lol.
For Chrome I dont know, I never use it, I use stock ICS Browser or even ICS + (The Stock runs better than ICS + [Although I'm sure they are the exact same thing?]). Only issue I have is that stuff shows up kinda small since I'm running Tablet Mode now.
Also what's the purpose of the Adreno drivers? I read the thread on it a while back when they first pulled them from some other device, but dont remember what they were for.
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Saying it's "super smooth" doesn't mean anything, because it might mean something different to you than us. I was looking to quantify things. If you know what 60 fps looks like, you can definitely say whether or not you're achieving that. I can say that this phone does not reach 60 fps in the cases I mentioned. A Galaxy Nexus does.
I use ICS Browser+ as well, as it doesn't seem to suffer from the stuttering issue. If you're willing to test, it's simple enough to download Chrome and check if scrolling is smooth like it is in the stock browser or ICS Browser+.
The Adreno drivers are just that: the drivers for the Adreno 200 series of graphics hardware. They are an implementation of EGL and OpenGL ES for the GPU in the phone. The theory was, being newer, that they would be faster or have improved acceleration and/or power management. From testing, I haven't seen any qualitative benefits to using anything other than the stock drivers, and people have said their benchmark numbers aren't any different, either.
MaulingDeOso said:
Saying it's "super smooth" doesn't mean anything, because it might mean something different to you than us. I was looking to quantify things. If you know what 60 fps looks like, you can definitely say whether or not you're achieving that. I can say that this phone does not reach 60 fps in the cases I mentioned. A Galaxy Nexus does.
I use ICS Browser+ as well, as it doesn't seem to suffer from the stuttering issue. If you're willing to test, it's simple enough to download Chrome and check if scrolling is smooth like it is in the stock browser or ICS Browser+.
The Adreno drivers are just that: the drivers for the Adreno 200 series of graphics hardware. They are an implementation of EGL and OpenGL ES for the GPU in the phone. The theory was, being newer, that they would be faster or have improved acceleration and/or power management. From testing, I haven't seen any qualitative benefits to using anything other than the stock drivers, and people have said their benchmark numbers aren't any different, either.
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I agree with you that saying Super Smooth doesnt really mean much to everyone else, but without any real method of measuring the true FPS at the moment makes it even tougher. Although I can truthfully say that it seems to be matching the smoothness of the Nexus so far, if its not a full 60fps then its pretty DARN close lol.
For Chrome I'll be testing in a few when I get out from work and I'll post what my findings are. Never used Chrome on Phone mode or Tablet mode lol.
I might try out those Drivers see if it makes it even better....ish? Although If you guys havent had much luck with your rezounds then I assume I won't have much luck either. Either way i'll Try that out too. Anyone have a link to it?
Yep, this was the main reason why I stopped using de-sensed roms with apex/nova/trebuchet and switched to sense roms. Just couldn't take the choppiness anymore
Anyone have the latest apk for chrome. I can't get it off the market. Says not compatible. Much thanks in advance
Not sure if this is just me or everyone, but I noticed that when after flashing a rom and starting blank and fresh with no apps installed and with the HTC Sense pages at default with the preloaded widgets. At this point the whole phone is fast and very snappy and very smooth when swiping between different home screens. Even if you rotate the phone to landscape the phone rotates very fast.
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As soon as I start installing my games and apps from the Play store, the whole phone just doesnt become snappy anymore. With 1GB Ram and Dual Core 1.5 GHz S4 CPU shouldnt the phone stay snappy no matter how many apps you have installed? This seems to be the case for every Sense phone.
It seems like the slow down comes when I start opening a couple apps and customizing the home screens. I tried down grading to 5 screens instead of 7 with a couple widgets such as the weather clock and I have my apps grouped into folders ect. At this point swiping between screens is a little jerky but if I keep swiping it goes back to being smooth.
My previous phones Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S2 didnt have this problem. I could have all 7 pages maxed out with widgets and apps filling up each page and the phone would remain snappy with no lag.
I never been a fan of the Snap Dragon CPU. I had better experience with Exynos.
hypersonicx said:
Not sure if this is just me or everyone, but I noticed that when after flashing a rom and starting blank and fresh with no apps installed and with the HTC Sense pages at default with the preloaded widgets. At this point the whole phone is fast and very snappy and very smooth when swiping between different home screens. Even if you rotate the phone to landscape the phone rotates very fast.
BUT
As soon as I start installing my games and apps from the Play store, the whole phone just doesnt become snappy anymore. With 1GB Ram and Dual Core 1.5 GHz S4 CPU shouldnt the phone stay snappy no matter how many apps you have installed? This seems to be the case for every Sense phone.
It seems like the slow down comes when I start opening a couple apps and customizing the home screens. I tried down grading to 5 screens instead of 7 with a couple widgets such as the weather clock and I have my apps grouped into folders ect. At this point swiping between screens is a little jerky but if I keep swiping it goes back to being smooth.
My previous phones Galaxy Nexus and Galaxy S2 didnt have this problem. I could have all 7 pages maxed out with widgets and apps filling up each page and the phone would remain snappy with no lag.
I never been a fan of the Snap Dragon CPU. I had better experience with Exynos.
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i here that bro.. same prob with me phone.. never had that problem with me og evo or my evo 3d through.. just the is phone??
Same here.. I now use Nova Launcher and it's great but I want to use Sense. I don't want to resort to a launcher to get the performance I expect.
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BrianBaker said:
Same here.. I now use Nova Launcher and it's great but I want to use Sense. I don't want to resort to a launcher to get the performance I expect.
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EXACTLY!
Yeah, im aware that I can switch to Nova launcher ect, but if that was the case, I would have kept my Galaxy Nexus. I want to beable to use the nice fancy Sense Widgets but the phone shouldnt have to slow down like it does.
I found this to happen on each rom I been on and I tried just about each of them in the Dev section. I havnt tried %100 stock because, soon as I got the phone I rooted and used a custom rom so im not sure if pure stock has this problem.
Maybe a Dev can chime in with a solution.
I can agree to an extent..no matter what though, this phone will always be faster than a galaxy nexus. (Don't know bout jellybean). That thing stuttered like a mofo when I was testin it.
Anyways, the phone tends to slow down and speed up at will. Could be a combination of cache or resources that sense needs in order for it to run that bogs memory. (Like adding different widgets, apps, etc) Sense just isn't well made like the pure android experience imo. It needs more fluidity within the system to run smoother and this is probably why you experience lag every now and then. Overall, I'm satisfied. It doesn't slow down too much. Still feels like a superior device even with its flaws (sense UI)
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Have you made sure your app/games are installed on your phone storage? I noticed a lot of app tend to use the internal storage.
Internal storage: 2Gb
Phone storage: 10Gb
I'm all stock and don't have any lag!
i noticed that too. my phone seems to be getting slower and slower. my gf's galaxy nexus with jellybean is much faster and smoother than my phone. i can't wait for cm10.
its not your phone, rom or sense. it's the play store. it happens on stock or rooted. even does it on my wife's 3D(stock unrooted). I blame it on when the play store changed over to the format it uses, now. even noticed it on her epic touch before I gave her my 3D. just my opinion I know. otherwise I have no lag.
jbermi said:
its not your phone, rom or sense. it's the play store. it happens on stock or rooted. even does it on my wife's 3D(stock unrooted). I blame it on when the play store changed over to the format it uses, now. even noticed it on her epic touch before I gave her my 3D. just my opinion I know. otherwise I have no lag.
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I'm not sure what it is. All I know my Galaxy Nexus never slowed down with AOKP and CM and my Epic Touch was also always smooth. Can't say that about this phone. The camera is nice and screen is nice but can't say that about this Snap Dragon so far.
Well this damn phone flies with Nova Launcher..HTC should be ashamed of them selves for still continuing to have sense be as slow as it is.
And I'm afraid even project butter in jelly bean won't help because HTC will find a way to slow things down
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I have absolutely no speed decrease what so ever. Stock or Custom Rom. Try uninstalling aps that you don't need system or data. Try locking sense into memory threw bp. That will definitely help IMO. Also how you set your phone up will always play a major role in performance. If anyone wants to know how I run mine to compare to there setup just hit me with a pm. I have over 40 apps installed and I have no lag in anything I do. This phone is a Monster lol. I've had the hero,evo4g,evo3d, and none of them can match the performance of this phone. Just my opinion.
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