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i posted this in another thread, but its already on page 2 of that forum so id rather get my answer here.
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-i have a vibrant for tmobile.
-rooted.
-phone has to be 2 months old, hardly used. still had stickers on camera.
my questions
-if i use the unroot technique posted earlier, will i have any problems with tmobile and unroot? show any signs?
-does any one have tmobile thats done an exchange under warranty with a rooted/unrooted vibrant??
-i have a dent on the chrome frame around the screen, nothing else...will this effect the warranty?
that dent pissed me off, ive been USING the phone for like 5 days? i havent been on this forum long.
so i wanna use a warranty exchange, say my mms or something is acting silly, and get a new one.
let me know.
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lack of response probably is due to having not a F'ing clue what you are asking.
whats wrong with your phone?
why can't you unroot it? Use OCLF in the market if you are having issues.
why would use of the phone (dent) hender warranty for a valid claim... assuming you have one?
If I unroot it, will tmobile accept it and not be voided???
Im asking because my dent is pissing me off and I wanna send it in to tomobile w a lame excuse that my mms is messed up
In one sentence, if I unroot my vibrant, will tmobile void my warranty?
So you dented your phone and are going to report a fake issue in order to get a phone without the dent you put there.
Okay....
Perhaps you should have a real issue so when they get your phone they dont charge you for the one they sent you.
PS, I am not going to help you fraud samsung/tmobile, maybe others will.
Buy a phone case. That should fix it.
If you are going to scam them, then nobody here can change your mind. Same goes for people who brick their phone, and do a warranty exchange. In the long run, it hurts everyone, causes prices to go up, and causes more stringent return policies.
If you go through with your scam, why don't you spend 16 bucks on a t-mobile silicon case for the replacement vibrant, so next time you don't dent your phone.
bye
ps... to answer your question, I think using ODIN with the 512 pit and tar should get you back to stock. Not sure though if they can tell you rooted before, ask someone else.
Would using odin put him back to stock, or would they still know he rooted before?
Unrooting your phone will keep your warranty intact, but that dent (depending how big it is) is not covered with warranty because its physical damage. When they receive your phone they inspect it and you can get charged an out of warranty fee which is near $250-300ish for a vibrant. T-Mobile will not let you dispute this charge either because all the phones are individually inspected.
Also, claiming an issue with the mms is not the best reason for a warranty exchange because mms issues are network related 9 times out of 10.
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Im not trying to scam them.
Whatsoever wrong w having a new phone w a dent on it, and just trying to get it replaced???
When I had a blackberry. I told tmobile some issues I had w the phone and thhey had no problem sending me a refurbished phone.
Now, when I try and do the same w the vibrant, im wrong????
Come on now, if u guys dont take advantage of that luxaryy, ESPECIALLY a 500$$ piece of equipment, then ima say ur wrong
I paid good money to get a phone that gets dented in my pocket???
No thank you.
Not to be rude an all, but all I had to do was ignore or answer me.
Ty
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I would say that returning a phone that works fine because of a dent is wasteful. Buy a case from amazon for a couple of bucks and it'll cover the dent just fine. And if dents and scratches are going to bother you that much then take better care of it.
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I paid good money to get a phone that gets dented in my pocket???
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Sounds like you dented it and want another. Ok Capt. Entitlement.
How about treating your things better or taking some responsibility when you don't. I'm well aware it's a $500 piece of equipment and I treat it as such.
When you're old enough to buy a car are you going to take it back to the dealer when you dent it? They'll laugh in your face.
lololol
MY car is older than YOU. lololol
guaranteed
yea, i ****ed up and dented it, cool..... u ****ed up and made her get an abortion, woopty-doo
i dont see whats wrong in what im doing???
i smell hate, and its strong....
if see advantages and opportunities, guess what??? ima take it and run like a crack head.
Root/unroot to exchange phone with tmobile
Just do it and see what happens. Let us know. I had a problem with a phone that the USB plugged in kept intermittently come on. Not good called TMobile has a new phone in three days. But i had a legitimation problem not a scratch or bump.. I don't think TMobile will exchange. Unroot phone then go in sd and delete update or anything that shows Young tried to put a rom on phone. Mer I'de get a cover.
i got my casemate case.
but the day i ordered it, is the day i dented it.
OF COURSE ima get pissed.
like i said, i did it like 5 times with a blackberry curve. not once did they hassle me.
so i dont see why it would be a problem with a phone thats less than a year old.
I can confirm that I bricked my phone tonight. I was playing in Clockwork trying to get a ext4 partition using a sdparted.txt. I gave up with that because I could not get it to work properly. Well I decided to push my a rom from adb to sd and it was taking forever so I closed out cmd and proceeded to mount SD from recovery but it would not mount. So I figured the SD card was locked up with CMD or perhaps I corrupted the partitions. So I pulled the battery and popped the sd in my pc and everything was fine with the card. So I went back and put the sd card back in my phone and tried to boot it up and I got nothing. I then plugged the phone into my pc and got nothing.. No lights no boot nothing. It did try to install QHSUSB_DLOAD drivers. Which I know someone is already working on. I guess sprint will be getting a visit tomorrow with my brick. Sigh.. No matter how experienced you think you are you are always not experienced enough..
Just wondering have you tried turning it on while its not plugged in? It may take a few pushes of the power button. Well you mentioned you tried before you plugged it in but try a few times, one time it took me 6 presses of the power button.
Try pulling the battery out waiting for 5 to 10 minutes then put it back and try booting!
Sywped from mah Supasonic!
To answer both of you Yes I have tried many times of pushing the power button plugged and unplugged and also leaving the battery an for extended period of time. No charging light comes on and it prompts for the QHSUSB_DLOAD drivers. I am assuming this is what trevE has been working on. Thus leading me to believe it is a full brick.
Can you get to your Hboot?
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So, what exactly are you going to tell sprint after you bricked your phone by flashing a rom through a custom recovery?
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So, what exactly are you going to tell sprint after you bricked your phone by flashing a rom through a custom recovery?
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I was doing an OTA update and then it didnt turn back on.
Yeah, doesn't work like that. EVO 3D has emmc that is write protected that is designed to revert to stock if ota fails.
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Yeah, doesn't work like that. EVO 3D has emmc that is write protected that is designed to revert to stock if ota fails.
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He could just say his phone turned off and now it wont boot. The employees at a Sprint repair center don't have the time or resources to launch an investigation into exactly how your phone failed and if it was his fault or not. Unless he opens his mouth or its some kind of physical/liquid damage they will give him a replacement no problem.
This is correct. By this I mean above post. They won't take the time to really check and you are not lying by saying it won't boot.
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Just tell them that you flipped the score on angry birds and then some crazy government stuff started flashing on your screen before it burned out. And then tell them that you might be the new intersect.
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But what happens if he says that then the Sprint guys find out he was lying? Do they ever do anything?
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But what happens if he says that then the Sprint guys find out he was lying? Do they ever do anything?
Sent from my fingers.
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They won't find out if the phone wont turn on. The problem is that people are not smarter than the equipment they are working with and do stupid things like brick their phones, and return them while lying and in the end, the rest of us end up suffering. Before Android brought in a whole slew of retards who bricked their phones, insurance was a 50 dollar deductible. I fully expect it to be 150 soon.
If you are dumb enough to try stupid things and brick your phone, at least man up and be responsible and do the right thing. Yeah, thats not going to happen.
if you brick a phone why not do the right thing and get yourself a new one by manning up and paying for it. I mean dont we all talk about doing the right thing? If you dont wanna pay retail, I am sure they will let your renew your upgrade, if you tell them you can either buy a phone or pay the ETF and go elsewhere, they will usually let you upgrade the phone.
I cant believe you experiment with stupid **** when you know it might f up the phone.
If you have insurance you can just lose it and pay the 100.00 ded. the brick should be worth at least a 100.00 on ebay. I sold an og evo with a broken lcd and bad esn. in an auction it got 126.50 about a month ago.
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They won't find out if the phone wont turn on. The problem is that people are not smarter than the equipment they are working with and do stupid things like brick their phones, and return them while lying and in the end, the rest of us end up suffering. Before Android brought in a whole slew of retards who bricked their phones, insurance was a 50 dollar deductible. I fully expect it to be 150 soon.
If you are dumb enough to try stupid things and brick your phone, at least man up and be responsible and do the right thing. Yeah, thats not going to happen.
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Meh just a soft brick, it's not like he's shipping it to them in pieces or anything. It just needs reflashed. If he were to use insurance the deductible would be nearly pure profit for them.
I remember seeing in another forum (can't remember which atm) that something was buggy in clockwork and it would zero out parts of the eMMC when formatting/partitioning something. It may be a good idea for someone to try and find out what it was doing to see if our version is prone to it also.
I decided to come back to my post and say a few more things. To the few who harped and lectured about taking my phone to sprint, I just wanted to let you know I explained to the sweet girl behind the counter that I was formatting my sdcard and some how the phones emmc got erased with it. She had no freaking clue Wtf I was talking about and just gave me a different phone. I never had any intention of claiming insurance or lying about how it happened. So you guys who whined can settle down now. But on another note this all happened on clock work and yes I was repartitioning the SD card via clock work / recovery - adb shell - sdparted.txt script.
Something funky happened when I did the battery pull after I could no longer mount the sdcard from within recovery..
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Meh just a soft brick, it's not like he's shipping it to them in pieces or anything. It just needs reflashed. If he were to use insurance the deductible would be nearly pure profit for them.
I remember seeing in another forum (can't remember which atm) that something was buggy in clockwork and it would zero out parts of the eMMC when formatting/partitioning something. It may be a good idea for someone to try and find out what it was doing to see if our version is prone to it also.
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I think that's the NookColor. You *cannot* format your SD (or on any non-stock rom) or you would format a portion of the eMMC and could (would always?) brick, hard....though it probably happens elsewhere, it's the entire platform from what I recall (of which the NookColor is a near reference design)...I think it was from confusion caused by how the partitions were referenced since you could boot from SD or eMMC or have any number of partitions on either.
If there were never any "retards" trying unknown things, there would be no dev community.
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If there were never any "retards" trying unknown things, there would be no dev community.
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+1 I r tard
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Doesn't power on at all, tried 3 botten /w battery in and out tried two w/battery in and out. and made a jig doesn't work. help I had this happen before and someone help me.
was running a custom 2.2 and the phone keeped rebooting so i loaded Samsung kies and it said everything was great. then morning
I think we need a sticky around here that says "Don't use Mini Kies, It might brick your phone!"
so is there hope? or
do i send off my phone to one off those repair shops
and is there a cheep one someone knows of, It been a great month quit job to move to AZ and then found out at 32 I have spine cancer so dont have much money
call tmobile and tell them that you were upgrading your phone using kies and it won't turn back on, should be covered under warranty
Yep has happened to others and T-Mobile has to cover it because its the "official" way to upgrade our phones.
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I did the hardware GPS fix so don't think it will be covered (be able to send it in)
You could run your phone over with your car, our leave it In a can and report it to insurance.
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I did the hardware GPS fix so don't think it will be covered (be able to send it in)
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Pm this guy, he can JTAG it but not sure of cost
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call tmobile and tell them that you were upgrading your phone using kies and it won't turn back on, should be covered under warranty
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WRONG!!! WRONG!!! Suggestion, I repeat do not tell them you were using KIES, unless you want to be without your phone for 3 plus weeks!!
They will immediately tell you, that is a Samsung problem, and you'll have to ship it to Plano, TX where they will take their sweet time in JTAGing it!!
Also unless you had extended warranty coverage/insurance, any physical damage or water damage etc they WILL NOT COVER IT, I know this for a FACT!!
They will only cover the replacement, if it hasn't been modded by SW or HW modding and it has no physical damage other than normal wear and tear. PERIOD!!
Also did you just bend the tabs a bit to improve signal reception for the GPS contact fix or did you build up solder on it??
Cause if you just bent it a little, your in the clear pal!! Unless you never got a chance to restore it back to JFD stock Froyo before you hosed it with Kies!!
I myself used solder, and had to use solder wick to remove it all so it looked OEM, and they never balked at it, = NO CHARGEBACK TO ME!!!
Instead tell them, you were using the phone to talk with your main Skeeezzer or whatever, and it just died= Period! TELL them no more than that, and they wont even question you, when you receive your new phone, you'll have to send the old one out in it, Once they receive it, they'll do a power up test, and that'll be it end of story. At that point, they will do a charge back to Samsung!! BUT NOT to you!!!
BTW KIES is notorious for corrupting the BL.bin and the SBL.bin files, You are truly hard bricked my friend!! BTW BL is Boot loader and SBL is 2ndary bootloader They were hosed by KIES, and once they are corrupted, its Either JTAG it or replacement
You do have 2 other options if you already ****ed up with TMO
1st suggestion, Pay $40 AND SEND IT TO TECH MOBILE, AND JOSH WILL RESURRECT IT FOR YOU WITH QUICK TURN TIMES!
lINK: http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-vibrant-jtag-brick-repair/
OR TRY THIS : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220181
BTW Good luck, and wish you the best with your fight on the spine cancer!! That is truly a kick in the nut sack!! :[
When you plug the phone in to either a PC or charger does the phone get any life at all? As in do you see the "spindles" or battery charging icon?
If the phone is getting no life at all. Unfortunately a JTAG would seem to be the only fix for you.
Good luck!
I've tried searching a bunch (both here and general google) but finding information on purposely frying a phone is really hard. If I've somehow missed something already written, please point me in the right direction.
I own an Atrix in Canada locked to Bell. I need to find a way to brick this phone, fry the power in it, etc...something that'll essentially make it so that the phone permanently doesn't turn on.
For background, I work at Future Shop (for those in the states, it's a subsidiary of best buy) and have the Exchange Plan on my phone since employees are strongly encouraged to get it. I'm going to get the phone swapped, but the LCD under the screen is cracked. The screen itself is fine, so there's no sign of physical damage, but I need the phone to be unable to turn on just in case the store I return it to deems that as not covered (they shouldn't, LCD screens are technically covered, but better safe than sorry).
Help me break my phone!
You should try googling insurance fraud.
Outside of that reversing the polarity, flashing firmware for other phones or licking a dioed while it is on should all get you flying on the fraudalant freeway. I would be wrong to endorse this behavior...so I do not.
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Yea it ain't cool we'll tell on you haha
It is written, but if you can't find it yourself then tough luck...
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Drop from great height onto concrete..........create brick...........problem solved!
(Keep hold of the phone when you drop it. May help keep insurance rates down for the rest of us, and will help with the gene pool)
This was originally a post about how i stumbled on a problem Chainfire 3D causes which ends up soft bricking your phone. I got a replacement phone from verizon through my warranty and it came with MDK build on it. Apparently its not a good thing to figure out loopholes in the system and share them so ive changed this post to warn people about installing the drivers from the Chainfire 3D app.
Doing a factory reset doesnt wipe root. The root binaries are in system and a FDR only hits data partitions. People doing this is also why insurance deductibles are going up and caps put on how many claims you can file.
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Here goes more people frauding the system, people like you that make insurance claimed raise prices, just deal with what you have. We all want to be flashing yes but is this is what we are ultimately going to be doing for now on on new flagship devices? It's one of the reasons they actually lock bootloaders because if it were unlocked there will be even more cries about bricks and people attempting stuff without researching, we can all argue back and forth about all that but seriously guys? Breaking your phone on purpose, obsurd.
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Doing a factory reset doesnt wipe root. The root binaries are in system and a FDR only hits data partitions. People doing this is also why insurance deductibles are going up and caps put on how many claims you can file.
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Even if root isnt wiped during a factory reset they wouldnt see that. I would assume that once they try to boot the phone and it doesnt work theyll just use whatever software they use to set it back to stock and get it ready to send out to some other person. Im not saying this is the best idea. I just happened to stumble upon it and once i had an excuse to get a replacement i went for it. Obviously i very well could have used the stock tar file floating around and fixed it but i hate TouchWiz and the stupid features that came with the phone. I honestly doubt this is why insurance deductibles are going up considering i didnt use my insurance to get my phone replaced. it fell under the manufacturers warranty. if i wanted insurance to replace the phone i could have just dropped it "on accident".
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Even if root isnt wiped during a factory reset they wouldnt see that. I would assume that once they try to boot the phone and it doesnt work theyll just use whatever software they use to set it back to stock and get it ready to send out to some other person. Im not saying this is the best idea. I just happened to stumble upon it and once i had an excuse to get a replacement i went for it. Obviously i very well could have used the stock tar file floating around and fixed it but i hate TouchWiz and the stupid features that came with the phone. I honestly doubt this is why insurance deductibles are going up considering i didnt use my insurance to get my phone replaced. it fell under the manufacturers warranty. if i wanted insurance to replace the phone i could have just dropped it "on accident".
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You hate touchwiz but you bought a touch wiz based phone. Lol smh.
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You hate touchwiz but you bought a touch wiz based phone. Lol smh.
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Didnt hate it until after i had used it. I had planned on putting a custom rom on the phone as soon as i had gotten it. Ive seen how much faster the GS4 performs when its running a pure android rom. My phone is at least twice as fast now that ive switched from the stock rom to an AOSP based rom. i know it doesnt really mean anything but i also scored almost 2000 points higher on my Antutu benchmark test.
I wish there was an "unlike" or "thumbs down button" Don't break your phone on purpose people...
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If Verizon would just unlock everything people wouldn't have to accidentally break their phones. I personally bought the phone outright to keep my unlimited data I feel that since I did that I should be able to do what ever I want to MY PHONE! ! ! Plus I pay every month for my insurance and in doing so the insurance company takes the risk that something might happen to my phone to where they have to replace it and if nothing happens to my phone well that make out like bandits because I'm still paying each month for their insurance that I don't use.
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I wish there was an "unlike" or "thumbs down button" Don't break your phone on purpose people...
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If Verizon would just unlock everything people wouldn't have to accidentally break their phones. I personally bought the phone outright to keep my unlimited data I feel that since I did that I should be able to do what ever I want to MY PHONE! ! ! Plus I pay every month for my insurance and in doing so the insurance company takes the risk that something might happen to my phone to where they have to replace it and if nothing happens to my phone well that make out like bandits because I'm still paying each month for their insurance that I don't use.
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I agree with you there. What i do with my phone is my business exspecially since i payed for the phone outright instead of getting it through an upgrade for free and i also pay for insurance. I didnt figure out how to break my phone then break it. i just figured out one thing on accident and decided not to fix it on my own (which i could have done very easily). The phone also had several issues right out of the box that would never seem to happen when id go into verizon. All the negative feedback to my post has forced me to change it to a warning about chainfire 3D. but that wont stop someone from figuring out they can get their phone replaced this way, but im also not forcing anyone to do this, its your phone do what you want with it.
Wtf is this thread all about? Warranty fraud isn't cool.
Lets not start a debate judging others morality/immorality or ethical/unethical decisions. This is so subjective, we might as well start arguing about whether there is a god or start debating about when the age of viability is for a fetus. Just keep your opinion to yourself, I don't care if you want to screw the system or not, theres not right or wrong in the grey area. Just dont be annoying about it like the people who knock on my door trying to convince me to join their religion, preaching they carry "the message of god". Like I tell them, then sing a prayer about it instead of annoying me, god damnit. This should be locked, the entire thread is a logical fallacy.
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Agree, this thread should be locked.
Users who think XDA is a site to perpetuate fraud are mistaken...To ask for help recovering from a bricked device is fine, you all should be fully aware of the chances you take when you came here, using fraudulent recovery maneuvers is not how we do things...be adult about your mistakes, claim accountability on your own and pay up.
And, for those who are offended about this, thanks, but instead of replying, next time just report the thread and a moderator will handle from there. Thanks
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