I know that the Xperia S 3G cannot work on Tmboile but I am stuck in a 2 year contract with them that started fairly recently (due to certain family ciorcumstance).
I was wondering if there were some work arounds to get 3G speeds on the phone via Tmboile?
Is there a rom I can download or software that will enable my phone to work with Tmboile's 3g network? Perhaps some type of bootloader?
If not, what about wifi hotspots? Can I by a wifi hotspot and take it with me wherever i go in order to accesss the internet on my xperia via Tmobile? If so, how much does a wifi hotspot cost, and is it a monthly plan?
Would 2G work on the phone with Tmboile? If so, can I still stay connected to the internet 24/7 and get RSS feeds, news, surf the web, emails, etc etc by using the broweser on the Xperia S? Do i need a data plan to make 2G work via Tmboile?
Your help is very appreciated.
This thread might help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1539415&page=3
From what I understand, the Xperia S will not work on T-Mobile's 3G but 2G only.
However, AT&T 3G seems to work on this device with some tweaks (which I have no idea what to do).
I also have T-Mobile and I absolutely love the S' design. I might have to move to AT&T...
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hey everyone im about to get the touch pro but im not sure if it needs the $30 service plan from verizon. i kept looking it up most people say no some say you need it.... im confused
I don't have a CDMA TP but I would suppose if you could disable all the data functions, it would be possible.
ok well what does the touch pro have that involves constant internet connection?
I'd have to check out a stock CDMA ROM in order to tell you that for sure. I suppose there would be a work around required that I don't know about. As for as GSM side of things, I think it depends on the internet connection. I do suppose one could do the same (disable the data connection altogether). I have an unlimited data plan so I have no reason nor desire to do this.
well i was reading somewhere about going into settings then connections then connections again then changing the network that automatically connects to tue internet to something else. i tried it on my Hd2 and it wouldnt let me update the weather or go on the internet unless i used WiFi. can anyone confirm this works on the touch pro ? i have a gsm network as well so I'm not sure if this works the same
There is nothing on the touch pro that requires a data plan, you can use only wifi.
Hi, I have a few questions about using the One on T-Mobile as its been a few years since I left T-Mobile. Thanks in advance!
As far the WiFi calling feature or UMA service goes it will only work on T-Mobile's official version is that correct? I was told the dev edition will work on T-mobile but it won't be able to use wifi calling or Hspa+
What plans have this WiFi calling feature? Is it limited to postpaid plans only or can I use that $30 5GB data plan and still have the WiFi calling feature?
If I understand correctly, the WiFi calling will allow me to use my T-Mobile number abroad to make and receive calls as if in still in the United States as long I am connected to a wifi network right? That would be great since I plan to travel abroad for a few months and it would be very convenient if I didn't have give all my contacts a new phone number every couple weeks or so.
The final question is if I go with the new uncarrier plan and buy the HTC One for $99 will they unlock the phone for me so I can use it abroad before the phone is paid off? I am not sure with their uncarrier strategy if they will force you to pay your phone off completely before they unlock it for you. I am unsure but I think before they were unlocking phones after the remorse period and you are locked into contract.
Obscurelight said:
Hi, I have a few questions about using the One on T-Mobile as its been a few years since I left T-Mobile. Thanks in advance!
As far the WiFi calling feature or UMA service goes it will only work on T-Mobile's official version is that correct? I was told the dev edition will work on T-mobile but it won't be able to use wifi calling or Hspa+
What plans have this WiFi calling feature? Is it limited to postpaid plans only or can I use that $30 5GB data plan and still have the WiFi calling feature?
If I understand correctly, the WiFi calling will allow me to use my T-Mobile number abroad to make and receive calls as if in still in the United States as long I am connected to a wifi network right? That would be great since I plan to travel abroad for a few months and it would be very convenient if I didn't have give all my contacts a new phone number every couple weeks or so.
The final question is if I go with the new uncarrier plan and buy the HTC One for $99 will they unlock the phone for me so I can use it abroad before the phone is paid off? I am not sure with their uncarrier strategy if they will force you to pay your phone off completely before they unlock it for you. I am unsure but I think before they were unlocking phones after the remorse period and you are locked into contract.
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1. Yes.
2. I think it is included on all plans, but I'm not sure.
3. Not sure, but be aware that many hotels overseas charge for WiFi (still cheaper than calling).
4. You have to pay off the phone before they will unlock it.
To expand on the wifi calling question...If youre connected to wifi anywhere in the world, you can call anywhere in the US (assuming your 911 address is in the US) for free. Calling outside the US will result in standard TMo long distance charges. So if youre in Brazil connected to wifi, calling a Brazil number would carry the same charges as if you were calling from the US.
I have used wifi calling in 3 different countries and know this to be true. One other thing to mention, depending on where youre going, the wifi in many hotels I was in was sketchy at best. Not the best for wifi calling.
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To expand on the wifi calling question...If youre connected to wifi anywhere in the world, you can call anywhere in the US (assuming your 911 address is in the US) for free. Calling outside the US will result in standard TMo long distance charges. So if youre in Brazil connected to wifi, calling a Brazil number would carry the same charges as if you were calling from the US.
I have used wifi calling in 3 different countries and know this to be true. One other thing to mention, depending on where youre going, the wifi in many hotels I was in was sketchy at best. Not the best for wifi calling.
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Great info!
blackangst said:
To expand on the wifi calling question...If youre connected to wifi anywhere in the world, you can call anywhere in the US (assuming your 911 address is in the US) for free. Calling outside the US will result in standard TMo long distance charges. So if youre in Brazil connected to wifi, calling a Brazil number would carry the same charges as if you were calling from the US.
I have used wifi calling in 3 different countries and know this to be true. One other thing to mention, depending on where youre going, the wifi in many hotels I was in was sketchy at best. Not the best for wifi calling.
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Thanks! Yes, my main need is to stay connected with the US as I'll be using Skype unlimited world to make calls in the current area I'm in. As long as I can use my phone as if it is still in the States I'm a happy camper. Also I really want to know if the $30 5GB prepaid plan support this feature as I feel that the $50 uncarrier plan is a bit excessive since I will not be using my phone in the states.
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I work for a tmo store.
Yes the prepaid will for WiFi calling BUT unlike a postpaid plan, it will still use your minutes.
On a postpaid plan WiFi calling does not subtract from your minutes
Prepaid the WiFi calling still works but it will subtract from your minutes still
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I work for a tmo store.
Yes the prepaid will for WiFi calling BUT unlike a postpaid plan, it will still use your minutes.
On a postpaid plan WiFi calling does not subtract from your minutes
Prepaid the WiFi calling still works but it will subtract from your minutes still
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Thank you! that is the information I needed.:highfive:
one of the roms in the international forum has included wifi calling for tmobile users. i think either trickdroid or renovate
We just spent 2 weeks in China and received all texts and phone calls while using the hotels free wifi, it is one of the greatest features that Tmobile has. Calls were mostly clear with occasional drops, we were using a stock note 2.
My better half caught me looking at the Xperia z ultra. She surprised me with a c6833 model. It should be here the end of the week.
We are over-the-road truck drivers running the lower 48 states. Our phones are on Verizon. I do a lot of calling to book loads and Internet searches. I do some streaming of music and video.
Can I move my Verizon sim card to the new phone? I know I will not get LTE service from Verizon. What I can't find is the simplest questions . Will the phone even make calls, text or MMS? Can I get other Internet service that is non-LTE? Can I connect to my wife's hotspot to get LTE Internet? I may have to get a T-Mobile account, but if there are work arounds I would rather not.
I know around here these are basic questions but if you are going to learn to count to 10, you have to learn how to count to 3 first.
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My better half caught me looking at the Xperia z ultra. She surprised me with a c6833 model. It should be here the end of the week.
We are over-the-road truck drivers running the lower 48 states. Our phones are on Verizon. I do a lot of calling to book loads and Internet searches. I do some streaming of music and video.
Can I move my Verizon sim card to the new phone? I know I will not get LTE service from Verizon. What I can't find is the simplest questions . Will the phone even make calls, text or MMS? Can I get other Internet service that is non-LTE? Can I connect to my wife's hotspot to get LTE Internet? I may have to get a T-Mobile account, but if there are work arounds I would rather not.
I know around here these are basic questions but if you are going to learn to count to 10, you have to learn how to count to 3 first.
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Yes , u can get internet service with non-LTE. You will be gettin Wifi-Connection when you connect to Wife's Hotspot. Data Transfer would be faster cause as you said your Wife has LTE.
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My better half caught me looking at the Xperia z ultra. She surprised me with a c6833 model. It should be here the end of the week.
We are over-the-road truck drivers running the lower 48 states. Our phones are on Verizon. I do a lot of calling to book loads and Internet searches. I do some streaming of music and video.
Can I move my Verizon sim card to the new phone? I know I will not get LTE service from Verizon. What I can't find is the simplest questions . Will the phone even make calls, text or MMS? Can I get other Internet service that is non-LTE? Can I connect to my wife's hotspot to get LTE Internet? I may have to get a T-Mobile account, but if there are work arounds I would rather not.
I know around here these are basic questions but if you are going to learn to count to 10, you have to learn how to count to 3 first.
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C6833 - LTE for T-Mobile
C6806 - LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T
C6802 - 3G for all networks
So even thought you have the single band LTE device, you will still get 3G coverage and data/ downloads. You will also be able to connect to your wife's hotspot and get LTE that way. But wont be as fast as LTE through a provider as its piggybacking.
I would suggest getting a T-Mobile account. (if they have coverage for where you will be)
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C6833 - LTE for T-Mobile
C6806 - LTE for T-Mobile and AT&T
C6802 - 3G for all networks
So even thought you have the single band LTE device, you will still get 3G coverage and data/ downloads. You will also be able to connect to your wife's hotspot and get LTE that way. But wont be as fast as LTE through a provider as its piggybacking.
I would suggest getting a T-Mobile account. (if they have coverage for where you will be)
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The problem with the "where you are" plan is we drive 1000+ miles per day. We have no idea where that would be. So as long as I can make the call part work and there is a work around for the interest, I'm happy. The super big screen when viewing load details will far out weigh some of the small draw backs like no LTE or having to connect to a hotspot. We drive for me hours in some states where we don't even have basic phone service.
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The problem with the "where you are" plan is we drive 1000+ miles per day. We have no idea where that would be. So as long as I can make the call part work and there is a work around for the interest, I'm happy. The super big screen when viewing load details will far out weigh some of the small draw backs like no LTE or having to connect to a hotspot. We drive for me hours in some states where we don't even have basic phone service.
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yeah I know what you mean. I travel a lot of part of my job, and often I have zero reception too. You'll be happy with your version of the Ultra. wifi hotspots will be the best choice and other than that 3G will suffice.. :good: or nothing...
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yeah I know what you mean. I travel a lot of part of my job, and often I have zero reception too. You'll be happy with your version of the Ultra. wifi hotspots will be the best choice and other than that 3G will suffice.. :good: or nothing...
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While I'm not a cheap SOB, okay I am, if it gets to bad I'll pay up for an account at T-Mobile, but why if I don't really have to?
Thanks everyone. While I can find info down to the glue it's stuck together with I couldn't find the basics of can I call home on it. I'll bet I can find somewhere if ET can phone home with it.
Can anyone offer anything on why the WiFi hotspot crawls at 0.6 Mbps DL, in the same location with LTE DL speeds ranging around 100 Mbps, on T-Mobile?
Stock rooted V30S on 8.0.
Is this a phone HW or SW constraint, or does T-Mobile somehow detect that the phone is in hotspot mode and throttle it?
TIA...
Edit: Apparently T-Mobile One plan only provides 3G speeds on WiFi hotspot.
Now I need to look for a root hotspot stealth app, so T-Mobile does not see it is running a hotspot. Anybody have any suggestions?
TIA again...
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If you add TMobile One plus, you can have 20gb of 4g lte hotspot.
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If you add TMobile One plus, you can have 20gb of 4g lte hotspot.
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The T-Mobile representation is not clear, it says 4G LTE (*3G data). Direct quote from T-Mobile website:
" 20GB of 4G LTE mobile hotspot data.
With unlimited 3G data. "
Maybe that means 4G up to 20GB then 3G after that, or maybe it is misleading advertising and it is 4G cell network and max 3G speeds on the hotspot, period. (Wireless carriers do have a well-deserved bad reputation for misleading consumers, and I read some users complaining on forums.)
I read about an ADB shell command involving DUN, to bypass TMobile hotspot throttling, but I'm concerned something like this might break something in the phone network config that might require a complete reset or reflash to fix, and I don't want to start down that path (the phone is rooted, 100% reliable with zero problems, and I don't want to screw that up - as fun as it is spending hours on such. with chance of bricking adding additional excitement).
Oh well, 0.6 Mbps is adequate (albeit slow) for basic things in a pinch, just not video. (Cable modem internet service circa late 1990's was "up to" 1 Mbps, this is about the same.)
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I have TMobile hotspot. It's 20gb of 4glte hotspot data, then unlimited 3g. Simple, easy, honest.
hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
Not related to the post (getting T-Mobile service) on any of the Asian firmwares at the moment.
I flashed the Euro, US firmwares and no signal at all. The radio power in hidden menu shows as off.
Does anyone know if crossflashing with this model also flashes the radio modem?
Seems to have worked naturally for Xperia 1 II and Xperia 1 III.
Not sure why this doesn't work now aside from intentionally restricting the phone to the intended region model.
Mine is XQ-CT72 global version on US T-Mobil.
I'm getting 800+, but US version should be better because of better band selection.
Mine goes that fast only certain places.
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hi community, i got my usa version of 1 iv and worked with mint-mobile (using t-mobile's network) to connect/activate. Calling/word text worked fine (image via text did not work), but no internet/data connection over 5g/LTE while browsing. Tech support could not get it working and escalated ... wondering if anyone would know how/what could be done. Thx!!
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I own the USA variant of the phone and I have absolutely no issues with 5G data nor wi-fi. The only issues I am experiencing is the fact that voice over Wi-Fi has not been provisioned. Coincidentally my phone also tells me within engineering mode that video over Wi-Fi is also not implemented. Sony wants to point the finger at T-Mobile and T-Mobile wants to point the finger at Sony.
Other than that I love this phone.
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You must be missing the APN config on your device for TMobile. also, check if mobile data is enabled.
Here is T-Mobile info on how to setup Tmobile USA APN:
Tutorials | T-Mobile Support
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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I have the correct APN that you mentioned and still no luck for voice over Wi-Fi. I spent over half an hour with a T-Mobile troubleshooting technician and she was not able to remedy the scenario. They have created a trouble ticket and forwarded up the food chain. They claim you will take about 3 days for them to get back to me so cross your fingers (VoWifi).
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Ah, that is a different question. that means you are able to get data and your problem is only with VoWiFi which is expected. your original post question was totally different.
Sony blocks TMO VoWiFi in their software by blocking the network code in their settings. You will never get VoWiFi with Sony and TMO together unless you root and hack your sony build settings to enable it.
Your next best option is to move to GoogleFi that uses TMO network and you will be able to get the full VoWiFi service there since it has different network code.
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Rats. I've been looking to upgrade from my Note 10+ on T-Mobile, and the Xperia 1 IV looked promising, but VoWiFi being nerfed is a non-starter for my needs. Curse the manufacturers for moving away from expandable storage!
T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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T-Mobile basically did a bunch of farting around and could not provision Wi-Fi calling on my phone. I have confirmed from at least three people on XDA developers that the workaround is to jump on board with Google fi since they do support Wi-Fi calling provisioning.... Or somehow root your phone and find an engineering workaround.
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It is Still a good attempt from TMO to try to help, It is really not TMO fault here as nothing they can do. Sony is at fault blocking TMO network code in their VoWiFi software.
Sony has decided to block this service from the second largest US carrier, wondering why Sony sales not picking up in the US
seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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Since WCDMA and GSM are sunset, if you want to call someone or receive calls with your phone, you need VoLTE or VoNR. TG and Whatsapp are not that popular in the US, and imagine someone wanting to use their phone as a phone....
well, I get that. We still have 3G and GSM. And every time I work on new rollout things are more and more complicated because of all generations are still in use. Connecting to a unknown wifi every time seems very not practical and if it is not opened public network (which again is not great) how does that work then? I get it if you are at home/family/friends but my question is more like, no cell signal, jut some random wifi. To me it looks more like a patch then an actual service/solution for the lack of cell signal. Or is that something that you really can rely on?
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seriously genuine question......why is that so important? I mean, can't you just call a person on whatsupp or telegram or any other service? After all, it is just VOIP, right?
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The issue is when I'm in my local public supermarket there is no T-Mobile coverage in the building. There is Wi-Fi and I do use Google meet and other apps over Wi-Fi but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
Someone would have to actually know that I'm in a no coverage area and utilize one of those other apps to reach me. If not businesses, job offers, local businesses that don't know me personally, someone new that I've met etc etc would never get through to me and I would eventually receive some type of voicemail message indication. That is unacceptable when you have children and other family members and friends that need to get in contact with you immediately.
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but if someone calls my phone number my phone will not receive the call. That is the point.
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Exactly the point, your phone number is the primary way many reach you. if your phone does not have any 3G\4G\5G coverage, then WiFi might be your only other option that gives people the ability to call you directly with your phone.
OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
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OK, but who provides wifi? I get that is is just a voip, but you still need internet connection. So instead of cellular it uses wifi.
Here, in many big business buildings or malls we have indoor base stations, sometimes it is combo indoor and out door. Indoor usually is set up as MIMO so all of the providers share the same indoor infrastructure.
Also, many of public places have a wifi but since we are covered with cell signal, nobody really cares about it. Mostly because you can't just connect to it. you need a pass from your bus ticket or your bill in bars or are greeted with front page of the mall that wants you to register and so on. So using wifi here is PITA, that's why I wonder how all that works there and why is it such a big deal.
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There are many places that I have frequented where cellular data and cellular calling will not go through. In those places Wi-Fi is available. While you can use WhatsApp and other individual applications to make video calls and even voice calls you will not be able to receive native incoming calls when someone calls your regular phone number nor will you be able to use your native dialer to make a regular phone call if Wi-Fi calling is not provisioned on your phone. Unfortunately our phones do not get provisioned for T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling apparently due to some issue between the Sony and T-Mobile. So by switching to another carrier or mvno, Wi-Fi calling will be enabled reportedly.
UPDATE: Switched to Google Fi.... Problem solved. Wi-Fi calling now enabled.
That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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That part I get, but still don't know which wifi do you use for that. For mobile network, there is a SIM that handles the connection between cells. Phones can't connect to any available wifi, right. So..... I get what it is, but as someone who works on cell towers installations and from perspective of wifi networks here and my knowledge I still don't get which wifi do you use in that case.
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It can work on any Wi-Fi network that has adequate bandwidth. I can go to my local Publix supermarket....no cellular signal in there: I turn my WiFi on, I can make/receive calls with the native phone dialer. No cellular tower needed.
Even tested this at home.... I turned Airplane mode on, then afterwards I ONLY turn wi-fi on.... Calls can be made/received.