Hi guys,
I am about to buy the S III international/European version. I would like to use it with a sim card I already have from a different carrier, and thus I will need to unlock it. The research I did though tells me that I need to first root it which is not reversible and I will void my warranty because of the counter cannot be reset.
I am not interested to put any roms or anything, I just want to use it with a different carrier from my country. So can someone confirm that rooting it will void my warranty or that has been overcome already. If not, will it be possible in the future, say in the next month or so?
You can root it and you can use voodoo sim unlock from the play store and that will unlock your phone.
Afterwards if you need to you can use triangle away which will reset the counter to zero and Samsung will be none the wiser if you have to send it back for warranty.
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nodstuff said:
You can root it and you can use voodoo sim unlock from the play store and that will unlock your phone.
Afterwards if you need to you can use triangle away which will reset the counter to zero and Samsung will be none the wiser if you have to send it back for warranty.
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Cool, so I am safe to root & unlock. You can reverse the process on the intl version as opposed to the US version. Sweet!
Have a look at the video in my signature.
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Anyone find out how to reset the Flash Counter on Sprint S3 yet? The only ways Ive found are for the International version.
No known counter resets on the American variants as of now.
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Why does it matter?
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Why does it matter?
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Because if your carrier detects that you have been flashing, it voids the warranty. No worries, devs will build a workaround.
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Can I return my phone if that flash counter shows something beside 0?
Wouldnt hold your breath...
Although I'm sure he'll pull through if its possible this was copied from chainfire's twitter:
Chainfire XDA @ChainfireXDA
@virtuatony the US/CAN models use a completely different method. No idea if/when it'll be supported by Triangle Away. Maybe never.
So wouldn't count on it being soon
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Because if your carrier detects that you have been flashing, it voids the warranty. No worries, devs will build a workaround.
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my sII had a flash counter of 98 with current binaries = custom and i had the yellow warning triangle. and sprint still helped me, they usually dont care as long as your problem isnt from rooting custom ROMs and or overclocking
Hey,
I sent away a Galaxy S2 on warranty but then realised that I had rooted it once Meaning the flash counter was at 1... I have heard that Samsung check this and the warranty on software is void if it isn't at 0... I have sent my phone away but it is Vodafone AU that repairs it, Do you think they will check it? (The reason it was sent was software related) Thanks
t.saddington said:
Hey,
I sent away a Galaxy S2 on warranty but then realised that I had rooted it once Meaning the flash counter was at 1... I have heard that Samsung check this and the warranty on software is void if it isn't at 0... I have sent my phone away but it is Vodafone AU that repairs it, Do you think they will check it? (The reason it was sent was software related) Thanks
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as long as ur phone wont boot, the dwnld mode is not accessable by any means and they have to change the motherboard,the rooting cannot be detected for sure
t.saddington said:
Hey,
I sent away a Galaxy S2 on warranty but then realised that I had rooted it once Meaning the flash counter was at 1... I have heard that Samsung check this and the warranty on software is void if it isn't at 0... I have sent my phone away but it is Vodafone AU that repairs it, Do you think they will check it? (The reason it was sent was software related) Thanks
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Reading your other thread and this one, i don't think you listened to anyone to try and fix your phone. Anyway by the sounds of things you can still boot into download mode so yes Samsung may check that and make you pay. Its a 50 - 50 chance.
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Yep. Matty is spot on. It's a dice roll. There's an even chance they'll charge you for it, and you've got no comeback whatsoever given rooting/flashing non-stock firmware voids the warranty.
It was an open box SGS2 that Vodafone had when I got it, I will just play dumb and not know what root is and so on XD
Just curious.... has anyone ever looked at the contract lately. I was looking to see where it said anything about rooting devices but no dice. Can someone clear that up maybe with a link? Thank you
I don't believe the contract says anything about it, but the warranty on the other hand is a different story.
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I always wondered, if you told Verizon you are or were rooted, do they write it down? So even if you unroot they will know your warranty is void?
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I always wondered, if you told Verizon you are or were rooted, do they write it down? So even if you unroot they will know your warranty is void?
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Well with the Rezound, you need to use an unlock key from HTC's site, so they know you rooted your phone..
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Well with the Rezound, you need to use an unlock key from HTC's site, so they know you rooted your phone..
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I don't think they coordinate with vzw on that ... I would be very surprised I'd they did. But as for warranty... how would it void that?
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First of all, they probably won't check the bootloader to see if you've unlocked it. And if you really wanna be precautious, you can revert back to locked, although it is an extensive process
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Honestly i really understand why unlocking the bootloader voids your warranty since you cant really break your phone being S-ON, now if you were S-OFF that is a whole other story. And honestly someone who is unlocked and/or rooted is likely to have enough experience to be able to fix almost any software related issue(not always the case though). Being unlocked and/or rooted shouldnt hold you back from sending it in for warranty. Although i have heard some people say it goes through warranty just fine being rooted and unlocked.
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First of all, they probably won't check the bootloader to see if you've unlocked it. And if you really wanna be precautious, you can revert back to locked, although it is an extensive process
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I know what I can do... but it has nothing to do with my device ... I just am curious if vzw has anything legit in place against modifying software on the phones. I've seen where it says you can not modify the hardware but saw nothing of software
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cslingerland said:
I know what I can do... but it has nothing to do with my device ... I just am curious if vzw has anything legit in place against modifying software on the phones. I've seen where it says you can not modify the hardware but saw nothing of software
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I don't know legally what they can do, but I've had a few conversations with the local reps in my area. They don't care if you phone is rooted as most of them have rooted phones. I was in with my dad the one day back when he was getting the Tbolt, and the rep noticed that my bolt was rooted. He said honestly, he would never recommend the bolt to someone who wasn't going to root it anyway. I've been told that they are a lot more lax about rooting now than they were in the past.
At the Verizon store near me, the only person that cares is the manager. The rest of the employees don't care
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As far as I know Verizon doesn't care at all if you root, (I've unlocked the bootloader, relocked and sent in many Rezounds and they never cared) and HTC just tells you they have the right to not honor your warranty when you unlock your bootloader, at their discretion, but they almost always honor it.
Another thing, unless you have the extended warranty with Verizon (I think), your Rezound's warranty is handled by HTC, Verizon is just the middle man.
Legally Verizon can't do anything as it is legal for any consumer to root and do whatever the hell they want with the software on their phones, but they can choose not to honor your warranty if they feel your modifications are the reason the phone became faulty. Link http://www.intomobile.com/2010/07/26/iphone-jailbreak-and-android-root-declared-legal-in-us-feds-exempt-smartphone-hacks-from-dmca/
So your safe, have fun rooting worry free !
Isn't there a way to trick your phone so that Verizon can't tell you did it?
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My thought has always been yes I received a unlock code, but show me proof that I actually used the code and unlocked the bootloader.
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I have already sent back 4 Rezounds this year under the warranty and as I made of fact I am now awaiting my 5th any day. Each one was unlocked and rooted. I re-flash the RUU before sending it back and have not had an issue yet.
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I have already sent back 4 Rezounds this year under the warranty and as I made of fact I am now awaiting my 5th any day. Each one was unlocked and rooted. I re-flash the RUU before sending it back and have not had an issue yet.
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have you sent them back for legit problems? and what were you problems? (even if you made them up )
I think the only risk you would have is if they somehow found out you were tethering. It does day in the Verizon contact that you can't tether without using (and paying for) their service.
But I've also heard from countless people that they would never know. Unless you returned a phone with the tether app and files still in there.
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Doesn't tetherguard tell them you are tethering?
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They throw the returns in a bin. The whole idea of non removable battery is to make it easyer on the return department
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Doesn't tetherguard tell them you are tethering?
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No...they can't do anything unless you were stock and they had an app or service running at all times to monitor it. Otherwise they would have no way to tell
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No...they can't do anything unless you were stock and they had an app or service running at all times to monitor it. Otherwise they would have no way to tell
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Not 100% true. If you are doing a WiFi tether, where the device is acting as a hotspot they can tell because they can see more than one private IP being routed through your devices' public IP. This combined with the fact that you don't have hotspot on your account can be considered a breach of contract.
Hi, I bought the phone and it is locked onto the network,so I bought the codes from ebay, and I don't know if the warranty is still valid because it is unlocked. So, is there a simple way to lock it to the network again? Or, there is no need to re-lock it because they can't see it its unlocked because I used a code. Thanks
Network lock has nothing to do with warranty .
jje
Apparently in my country it does. They check if the phone is locked and then they try to repair it ...
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You can't relock it unless you got a backup of the EFS folder.
What country are you in? Most providers may try funny business but that does not mean it actually would be legal for them to do
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I have an S3 I9300 on OmegaROM V42 and 4.1.2 which is factory locked to my network.
I would like to unlock the phone so it will take any SIM card.
What is the easiest/quickest way to achieve that?
A way that hopefully I do not need to restore my data.
Insert your new SIM card and turn the phone on, when prompted enter the sim unlock code you obtained from your current network.
There is currently no 'free' way to unlock.
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If your phone is the i9300 it's already unlocked.
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If your phone is the i9300 it's already unlocked.
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Weird answer, network lock is present on all i9300 phones on bought via a network contract.
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Yes it is definitely locked but the operator will not unlock until contract ends.
What about something like the GalaxSIM app from the play store?
Will that do it?
Yes it is definitely locked but the operator will not unlock until contract ends.
What about something like the GalaxSIM app from the play store?
Will that do it?
No, it won't.
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best option try a third party unlock website
or also certain users on ebay offer a fast cheap unlock service for many networks
Zizza said:
best option try a third party unlock website
or also certain users on ebay offer a fast cheap unlock service for many networks
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Instead of starting a new thread I'll ask here. Does anybody know of a good third party unlocking site? I'm trying to unlock a phone for my friend, but I'm not sure where it's from... possibly it's an international version? Any way to find out what it's locked to?