another example that RAM size on SGS3 model 1GB model are experiencing issue never seen in SGS2.
youtu.be / p5fm5zLd4mc
youtu.be / qObvIiqiOEI
Similar issue are observe on SGS3 unit in Samsung showroom.
clear space between / after copy the above to your browser.
sgs3 already running latest firmware as per youtube posting. similar issue observe on more than 1 sgs3 even though it is had been reset to factory default.. it is clearly a lag of ram capacity which cannot be resolve with taskmanager of any kind, therefore, do not post any suggestion to use any task manager from google play store as it will never help.
this post are not intended to seek help or suggestion but merely to share a prominent issue who impact power user. there are many other scenario in other thread that are also a valid example that RAM size clearly matters. Quote from other thread has confirm that 2GB RAM Korea unit doesn't exhibit any of the RAM issue related to 1GB model.
Don't recommend any custom rom unless you are able to simulate the issue consistently and solve by using a custom rom and post a valid video that demonstrate the issue are resolve by custom rom.
How about updating the firmware?
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How about updating the firmware?
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it is already running latest firmware as per posting in the youtube video
similar latest fw version on samsung own demo unit at their showroom
ju5tme said:
it is already running latest firmware as per posting in the youtube video
similar latest fw version on samsung own demo you at their showroom
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nice nice nice :good:
Good thing we can run custom Roms then! I'll bet Samsung could throw 4gb ram in this phone and still get it to have memory issues... Bloatwiz
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This is the Q&A forum. You're just posting a complaint, and it's a complaint that we already have several different threads on. It's not the phone, it's the ROM.
Playing video games coded in (one of) the worst programming languages for mobile phones and being astonished that it needs a lot of ROM?
News at 11.
Whoever says that RAM size does not matter is a retard. Bill Gates himself made the mistake of claiming that none would need more than 64KB of memory. However there is a difference between it being advantageous and it being a requirement.
ju5tme said:
another example that RAM size on SGS3 model 1GB model are experiencing issue never seen in SGS2.
youtu.be / p5fm5zLd4mc
youtu.be / qObvIiqiOEI
Similar issue are observe on SGS3 unit in Samsung showroom.
clear space between / after copy the above to your browser.
sgs3 already running latest firmware as per youtube posting. similar issue observe on more than 1 sgs3 even though it is had been reset to factory default.. it is clearly a lag of ram capacity which cannot be resolve with taskmanager of any kind, therefore, do not post any suggestion to use any task manager from google play store as it will never help.
this post are not intended to seek help or suggestion but merely to share a prominent issue who impact power user. there are many other scenario in other thread that are also a valid example that RAM size clearly matters. Quote from other thread has confirm that 2GB RAM Korea unit doesn't exhibit any of the RAM issue related to 1GB model.
Don't recommend any custom rom unless you are able to simulate the issue consistently and solve by using a custom rom.
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Flash CM 9/10 and U can get rid of that sh*t.
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d4fseeker said:
Playing video games coded in (one of) the worst programming languages for mobile phones and being astonished that it needs a lot of ROM?
News at 11.
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C? Most games run native code.
ju5tme said:
it is already running latest firmware as per posting in the youtube video
similar latest fw version on samsung own demo unit at their showroom
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F3 is not the latest firmware.
Anyway, custom rom and your problems are gone.
C? Most games run native code.
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Actually if you look at the video, he's using the browser to play games on a Flash-based website.
Actionscript is really not designed for mobile devices and needs huge amounts of power and RAM.
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Hi to all.
Has anyone tried it or is aware of any review on Easypix Easypad EP970? I am thinking on buying one, since specs look very good without me being an expert on CPU performance data (9.7 capacitive, Rockchip R2918 1.2Ghz, 1Gb, 8Gb, 8000mAh, Gingerbread) and price is rather low for these specs.
Also, does anyone know of any custom ROM for it? The source code is readiy available from their site so I guess someone with knowledge can do it easily.
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
Moving to Q&A
unfortunately this tablet is not focused from many people - the price and specs are fine - i would say the closest competitor is the Archos Arnova 9 G2
better specs vs better screen for 240€ - i would like to see a video about the quality of the easypad 970 screen
Android 4.0 for Rockchip 2918: Link
Thanks. So, am I right to assume that any Rockchip 2918 9.7" based ICS or Honeycomb ROM would do for the Easypad as well?
Talking about the Arnova 9 G2, it looks interesting indeed. Slightly slower CPU, one camera less, slightly thicker, but 50 Euro less!!
On the Arnova's downside, no mention on the battery capacity though (will be hard to beat Easypad's 8000mAh), and worse of all not avaiable for sale as yet.
I guess Prestigio will be coming soon with a similar model as well.
christis said:
Thanks. So, am I right to assume that any Rockchip 2918 9.7" based ICS or Honeycomb ROM would do for the Easypad as well?
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There would be still a ROM portation nessecary to adjust certain aspects and implement certain driver. But at least it should be simple for experienced Modder.
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Talking about the Arnova 9 G2, it looks interesting indeed. Slightly slower CPU, one camera less, slightly thicker, but 50 Euro less!! On the Arnova's downside, no mention on the battery capacity though (will be hard to beat Easypad's 8000mAh), and worse of all not avaiable for sale as yet. I guess Prestigio will be coming soon with a similar model as well.
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Yeah at beginning next year there will be some very similar and interesting devices in the low budget area.
Archos Arnova 9 G2; 10 G2
Easypad 970,
Prestigio
and also Coby Link
For now the Archos has the biggest community, i think root is already possible for Arnova 9 G2, because of the similarity to the Arnova 10 G2. Maybe next year other devices will be community or company supportet as well - unfortunately no one can really say.
Interestingtimes ahead then.
I think it is wiser not to rush now and wait for next year. Let's see.
Thanks
the easypad970 seems to be a good purchase now
Link
its identical to cube U9GT2
therefore easy to root and Android 4.0 final release is coming soon
Happy new year.
I got the 970 a couple of days before the new year. I couldn't resist the temptation when I had it in front of me. I also bought one for my bro as well.
Already I rooted it with Gingerbreak (minor snag after that, during shutdown, but workaround by another app), loaded with apps, and tested on dlna multimedia servers, etc etc.
Generally happy with it. Now is about time to experiment with ICS. Just to confirm that I can use a U9GT2 ROM without a problem, even though this one has 8Gb NAND instead of 16Gb of U9GT2?
Sorry for the noob question
BTW thanks for the links. Great help!!
grz - i got one too its cheap, good performance, good quality, and has a excellent display
i would recommend to change the Launcher and the Keyboard, to e.g.:
Go Launcher Ex and Hacker´s Keyboard
for Gaming install Chainfire3DPro and within Chainfire install OpenGL Driver
for Gameloft Games, like Order & Chaos you need to change the build.prop (\System): Link (Thread #8)
HardKeyboard + Mouse + USBStick work also fine
and yes - you can use the Cube u9gt2 ROMs - the USB Driver doesnt work as fine as the
970 but it works - with a installed cube ROM u need to use a RKManager to switch off the Tablet,
then press Volume (-) + Power keep pressing and put the USB cable in the computer, then
the Device will be recognized from the RKManager und you can take away the Fingers
Thanks for the good info. Congrats on your new gadget!
Will try games etc, but at the moment I am trying to find the best calendar and contacts apps in order to sync with Outlook and keep the categories, and some networking functions.
There is something in the German forum that you kindly provided the link, that I need to clear up: "richtet 1GB anstatt 500MB für Apps ein". Google translation implies not clearly that if I use the Cube ROM, it gives me 1Gb for installing apps instead of 500Mb as in Easypad. Is that correct?
If so, out of curiosity then, any ideas why Easypix gave us only 500Mb (which have almost run out on mine and I am also using Apps2SD)? And where does Cube take that extra space from? Is it from the NAND Flash memory which it has double than ours? If so, then we Easypad owners wouldn't have any problem with half the NAND and even then reduced by another 500Mb? Or is it just too trivial and I shouldn't bother about it? Because I need that 1Gb badly
christis said:
Thanks for the good info. Congrats on your new gadget!
Will try games etc, but at the moment I am trying to find the best calendar and contacts apps in order to sync with Outlook and keep the categories, and some networking functions.
There is something in the German forum that you kindly provided the link, that I need to clear up: "richtet 1GB anstatt 500MB für Apps ein". Google translation implies not clearly that if I use the Cube ROM, it gives me 1Gb for installing apps instead of 500Mb as in Easypad. Is that correct?
If so, out of curiosity then, any ideas why Easypix gave us only 500Mb (which have almost run out on mine and I am also using Apps2SD)? And where does Cube take that extra space from? Is it from the NAND Flash memory which it has double than ours? If so, then we Easypad owners wouldn't have any problem with half the NAND and even then reduced by another 500Mb? Or is it just too trivial and I shouldn't bother about it? Because I need that 1Gb badly
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Hey,
I'm one of those germans with an Easypad 970
Well I upgraded my stroage for Apps from 500mb to 1gb without any problems. I think the Cube U9GT2 Rom upgrade changed the partition sizes too. So we will lose 500mb from the normal NAND flash an can use it for apps.
greetings
yes its a decision for the ROM maker between more storage for the system or for the user - i really prefer 1GB for Apps
I would recommend the new Cube Firmware 1.05 = Android 4.0.3 (Source), i tried this one out the whole day and im very pleased. It runs very stable, has 1GB for Apps, flash works and some Apps look really good with ICS.
for Calendar - i use "Jorte" and youtube is here
Good.
I am also thinking of installing this specific firmware (or any update) by next week and hope by that time someone will fix the adb issue.
Did you notice any improvement on battery life?
no unfortunately i didnt notice any improvement in battery life, and in the next days we will see probably some more ROMs so there is no need to hurry
Hi, I also have the Easypad 970 and very pleased with the quality of the screen and overall speed of the tablet. Unfortunately, it seems there are some devices (like mine) with faulty/bad WiFi chips and this is a real problem. Currently, trying to get it fixed with easypix support and respons is OK so far. Tomorrow I will try to get an RMA for it.
My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
bam88 said:
My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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Mate same here. I have also lock ups with some apps like messaging and browser as well. Tsk!
bam88 said:
My TouchWiz keeps having to redraw itself after exiting from big apps, such as Browser and Facebook. Also, I find that the browser have to reload opened tabs very frequently; sometimes just existing the browser momentarily to reply a facebook message leads to a tab refresh.
Are these signs of insufficient ram or are these problems software related? Any experts care to shed some light on this issue?
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Go into settings, accessibility and use the process manager. Use it and see if you still have the problem. Chances are that it maybe ram or software.
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One x had that problem too, it has been fixed with latest ota update. Maybe samsung has this problem too
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More than enough for GB not nearly enough for ICS. 2GB will be just right for an ICS phone with a custom skin. 1GB for the OS itself 512mb for TW and all the background services/ cached apps and 512mb for the user to run his desired apps.
There is a simple rule in computing - more memory (more resources of any kind) never hurt. Yes, people can quote all the articles they want about mobile OS's not needing that much ram, but -
- Android is not nearly as optimized as WP7/iOS
- Android likes to keep more apps open, it was designed to multitask
- over the next 2 years, memory demands will increase. Every version of Android uses more ram
Trust me, you won't see any high end Android phones with less than 1.5GB ram very soon.
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
nativestranger said:
More than enough for GB not nearly enough for ICS. 2GB will be just right for an ICS phone with a custom skin. 1GB for the OS itself 512mb for TW and all the background services/ cached apps and 512mb for the user to run his desired apps.
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You speak the truth.
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rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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I think they like selling more phones more regularly
rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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How would they make money from mobile sales if you didn't "need" to buy their new phone in 6 months?
EVERY phone company would be thinking about their next model months before the latest phone has even hit the shelves.
They give you what you need not what you will need
They should develop 'virtual memory' like in windows and make use of the 16gb,
tadas_max said:
One x had that problem too, it has been fixed with latest ota update. Maybe samsung has this problem too
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I saw that on my friend One x... I couldnt beleive my eyes .. Top model device redraws launcher when exiting browser... Same problems like on old Desire...
sent from the other side of my galaxy
rakeshchn said:
I even think Samsung will release 2 Gb ram version of international GS3 in the next six months. They should have done it at the first place and that would have made the phone more future proof.
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I'm calling it now. Samsung will release the Galaxy S3D(eluxe) with 64GB of storage and 2GB of RAM.
Gusta_HR said:
I saw that on my friend One x... I couldnt beleive my eyes .. Top model device redraws launcher when exiting browser... Same problems like on old Desire...
sent from the other side of my galaxy
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Same thing is happening to Galaxy S III as well! Not a dealbreaker, but still bothers me a bit. The thing is, I don't remember this happening to my Galaxy S II.
To all of you, open build.prop with a root explorer and change
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=256m
to
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=128m
and all should be good.
Don't forget to reboot afterwards, otherwise the setting won't be applied.
my S2 hang when open game that use feint.. i think i doesn't support so many app to be open frequently.. or maybe i used gb4.03 and used so many flash app
Guys I'm facing the same problem. When I received my new phone, it was working beautifully. During the next 2-3 days, I tired using all the features and apps like drop box, ChatOn, S Voice, Voice cmds and all other frills. Then I downloaded few apps like Ultra Keyboard, SwiftKeyboard Trial, Ex Dialer, Dolphin Browser HD. Done some heavy surfing, downloaded mails and stuff like that and my phone started to lag heavily. TouchWiz started to redraw every time. Then I had a look at the available RAM. First of all it was only 780 out of 1GB and then free was only 23 MB. Then I looked into the list of cached processes and it was a long list. I restarted my phone, disabled most of the apps, downloaded Apex launcher, set the debugging option to limit background processes to 4 and my RAM is normally around 150-200 MB free. But I can see that it is depleting. Also on the Apex launcher, it happened that while returning from my G Talk, then screen went black for almost 5-7 seconds as if the phone froze. But it came out. I re-checked the memory and it was around 158MB. So I don't know why this happened but it is frustrating to have a top notch device and this kind of experience. Any suggestions?
Hotobu said:
I'm calling it now. Samsung will release the Galaxy S3D(eluxe) with 64GB of storage and 2GB of RAM.
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i dont think so... if it does then the phone will reach the price of 3k
Tectas said:
To all of you, open build.prop with a root explorer and change
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=256m
to
Code:
dalvik.vm.heapsize=128m
and all should be good.
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I was just about to type the exact same thing. I'm in the process of trying it out, seems to be working.
tobanezam said:
i dont think so... if it does then the phone will reach the price of 3k
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That makes no ****ing sense.
(I only "thanked" you by accident. If I could unthank you twice and leave you at -1 I would)
Hello everyone...
Today i saw galaxy s3 replica. It was almost 99% same as the real. It was android. The thing is only the play store was in chinese but i downloaded aptoide on that and installed many android apps which worked without any problem. I installed go launcher zedge application whatsapp viber skype everything worked fine and the price of that phone was $150 only. Even when i inserted my sim into that my GSM network sent me the setting of GPRS & MMS of Samsung Galaxy S3. In about phone it was written galaxy s3. Android 4. something...
I just want to ask one thing that can we install Samsung Stock Firmware on that ? So we can get rid off chinese play store? And some other chinese apps which are unable to delete. So it become like real s3 ?
badcarbon1 said:
Hello everyone...
Today i saw galaxy s3 replica. It was almost 99% same as the real. It was android. The thing is only the play store was in chinese but i downloaded aptoide on that and installed many android apps which worked without any problem. I installed go launcher zedge application whatsapp viber skype everything worked fine and the price of that phone was $150 only. Even when i inserted my sim into that my GSM network sent me the setting of GPRS & MMS of Samsung Galaxy S3. In about phone it was written galaxy s3. Android 4. something...
I just want to ask one thing that can we install Samsung Stock Firmware on that ? So we can get rid off chinese play store? And some other chinese apps which are unable to delete. So it become like real s3 ?
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I have a few questions about this:
1. Where did you see this?
2. Did it say anything about specs? It could have a terrible processor and such.
RokinRonan said:
I have a few questions about this:
1. Where did you see this?
2. Did it say anything about specs? It could have a terrible processor and such.
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My cousin bought that from china..the specs are as follow
Chipset
MT6577 dual core 1GHz
OS
Android 4.1.1
Phone storage
RAM 512MB
StorageDevice
2G Hard Disk
StorageDevice
2G Hard Disk
TF/ micro SD Card Slot
Micro SD memory card (SD 2.0 compatible)Max 32GB
badcarbon1 said:
I just want to ask one thing that can we install Samsung Stock Firmware on that ? So we can get rid off chinese play store? And some other chinese apps which are unable to delete. So it become like real s3 ?
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No you can't flash a Sammy firmware to that.
They have different hardware (I'm not talking about the looks).
And you could try installing the play store apk. ( might not work, you should try pushing it into system/app if that doesn't work, needs root to do this )
You will need to Root 1st to remove all the bloatware from the phone. ( don't ask me how to root, search around, try any universal rooting methods which might work and don't hold me responsible for whatever happens to your phone)
i suggest that you don't buy these Chinese phones, they might look attractive, but deep inside, they might have put all crap and non working stuff.
No support from either the manufacturer or devs here. Nobody to hear you when you're in trouble!
LIFE! IT'S WHAT YOU MAKE OUT OF IT!
nice suggestion
i suggest that you don't buy these Chinese phones, they might look attractive, but deep inside, they might have put all crap and non working stuff.
No support from either the manufacturer or devs here. Nobody to hear you when you're in trouble!
Look at your screen, it'll definitely be the same size as an S3, but with a much lower resolution. Chinese devices, both phones and tablets usually have a max resolution of 800x480, compared to Galaxy S3's 1280x720. Compare your phone to a real S3, you'll see the huge clarity difference. Also 512 MB RAM instead of 2GB and a dual core processor instead of quad core. I'd say you got a bad deal. You can get branded, good quality Android phones with better specs for a little more price. Like the person above said, don't buy Chinese devices. They're ultimate crap.
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Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
rohan_avni said:
Ok. I am a s3 user for last month. But disappointed on s3 multitasking capabilities. Seriously If u r playing a basic game like angry birds and if u got a call in middle after finishing call the game reload s itself. Wtf. My old lg optimus net with 512mb ram and arv6 800 mhz pro works good at these things. I was able to use uc browser, equilizer app, songs playing in background and also whats app same time on lg op net. But on s3 having quad 1gb ram it sucks. Some times it reloads equilizer app also that hardly takes 2 or 4 mb
I guess because sammy has loaded so much bloatware that leads to 650 or 700 mb ram always in use. What is the use of these specs then????? :banghead:
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It's not due to the bloatware. It's actually a problem with ICS and jellybean. They just use more ram than the older versions of android. For example, my old galaxy s could multitask amazingly well on froyo 2.2.1 but not as well on gingerbread and worse on cm10. Similarly, your lg optimus was probably on froyo of gingerbread, which inherently use less ram. Even if you disabled all the s3's bloatware, you'd only get a minor increase in multitasking capabilities. In order to multitask well on ICS or jb, you'd need 2gb of ram. Hopefully, android 5.0 will optimise ram usage and make multitasking better on 1gb ram phones.
DeadSOL said:
Yeah, it isn't. They've really messed it up.
There's nothing that we can do about stock, though. Just move on or go for a custom ROM/kernel.
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Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
Yup my op net is on gingerbread 2.3.4 hope that 5.0 will resolve this issue. How u ppl managing this?? Even while using xda app I just pressed home button to check new sms and in background sonsgs also playing. After replying to sms I tap on xda app and guess what it reloads. I have to find whole way to this thread.
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rohan_avni said:
Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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Uhh!!
No. Nobody would bash you for this post.
Unless you spam the forum.
I was almost bashed for that yesterday..
LOL
i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
yahyoh said:
i think some people said MB1 - MB2 Roms has a bit better ram management maybe u can try
and the weird thing my 2 years old GS2 multitask 1000% times better than GS3 ( both on 4.1.2 ) samsung need to fix this **** for their flagship :silly::silly:
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I tried 4.2 leak and Samsung improved memory management on it but that leak has it's own share of bugs and I'm back on 4.1 better to wait for new leak or final product.
rohan_avni said:
Hmmm thank u for not bashing me. I thought I might have hurt the ego of sammys fans. But really unrooted and on stock it really suck. No use of quad core and gig of ram. Any other solution than rooting???
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No, no; I wouldn't bash you for this. The multitasking issue is a big thing and has been present for a long time. For example, look at my review post and look at the list of negatives: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37700176&postcount=9061
Multitasking really, really sucks on the S3! Samsung have done an awful job.
I really hope Google can fix two major things on the next iteration of Android's OS;
1) Better RAM management (which would improve multitasking and load)
2) Giving us cloud storage for game data (it would be a huge help for those people who wipe or switch ROMs)
Hmmm really hoping that sammy will fix this annoying issue asap. I dnt want to root and install custome rom just nw. I can experiment with these things on my old lg. Its on jb cm 10 already but camera not working. But my s3 is new so will use it stock. Also afraid of sds.
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Nice review mate. :thumbup:
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Well no doubt multitasking sucks on s3. I guess it's not due to jelly bean. My friend's s2 works great on jelly bean and multitasking is great on it. I guess the problem is on software side of s3. 1gb ram its more than enough for handling phones like s3.
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This has been discussed plenty and you're right, it's one of the s3's biggest flaws. The only obvious solution is the only one you can't really do - add ram. That or, you know, hope samsung takes his head out of his ass and actually fixes this since it's rather shameful, but I won't be holding my breath.
But there are workarounds, even if not perfect:
- you can use a custom aosp based rom. There're plenty to chose from. Although i haven't tried how their memory management is better than stock's many people report it is. And they usually use much less ram too and that also helps. The bad side is, since samsung didn't really deliever on the sources they promissed, any aosp rom for the s3 isn't as optimized as it could be. This translates in worse battery life, somewhat more lag than expected, aparently worse camera (from what i heard) that stock stuff... Some people don't even notice other can't live with that - up to you.
- use swap. by installing a swap-enabled kernel you're able to multitask more. This isn't the same as adding ram although it's probably as close as it gets functionality wise. What you're doing is creating a file on either the internal or the external sd that will help with your poor ram managing.
You can get more info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paging if you're ineterested how stuff works. There's also plenty of info on such kernels on the "original development" thread.
There are prices to be paid though, internal and external sd's are never as fast as ram, so you'll probably feel your phone slower overall, even more if you use the external sd which is known to be even slower than the internal sd (card class is a huge factor here since it determines how fast your card is at reading and writing).
Also, since your phone will be constantly writting/reading from sd you're also reducing it's life span. If your internal sd breaks down, you'll need a new phone since the internal sd can't be replaced. If it's the external sd you can just buy another one cheap.
I did try this with an 8Gb class 6 card and a 512Mb swap. Sure it multitasked like a boss but phone was much slower all around. There are reports from people saying they don't notice any slow downs with a class 10 card though. They're rather cheap so i'll give it a try one day.
- sell it and buy the 9305 with 2Gb of ram. Or wait for the new S4. Or, if you're tired of getting shafted by samsung, go for any other brand. To be honest that xperia Z is looking mighty fine lately...
Super nice info friend. Will try other kernel but not nw. Will wait and watch what sammy is gonna do to fix these in next updates??
So many issues wid this flagship droid. Sudden death, exynos abuse, heating issues........
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Well, it sucks how the phone just kills, stops or breaks whatever you leave running either in background or when the screen turns off. And it's plainly annoying to see almost every app getting reopened after a while even if nothing significant happened. Since there's no working multitask I'd rather have what apple does for "multitasking". At least apps are reopened where they were left.
But I'm keeping it for a bit more. I guess I could sell it and get the 9305 for little more money but I'm waiting to see whatever new comes out. If nothing pleases me I can always get the 05 at any point later, probably cheaper too. There's a 4.2 rom from Samsung to the s3 just around the corner, and I'm aware this is wishful thinking but who knows...
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Have you checked what the multitasking is like in aosp roms?
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2 pages and all of the mockery and nonsense flying all over the wall... You guys should sell your phone really, you lose couple hundreds dollar more and buy HTC or sth....save the b*tching
Solution: swap, lower the low Memory Killer value (original value is too high to keep app initial load faster, apps like system tuner or minfree manager will help), lock app logic (so that app doesn't get kill almost immediately when you use another app in between of a big app.
Reason why the galaxy s3 is so bad at multitasking is that to ensure users of less lags, less forgotten apps running in the background hogging the ram. Unfortunately android doesn't have a "pause in between" feature, but you chose it so find the d*mn mod and stop whining. I use AOSP and don't even say I defend samsung.... I just hate the nonsense...
Edit: Btw, titanium backup is only 6$ or so, buy it and freeze the crapwares if you don't use. Freeze, not uninstall so the next time you update your custom rom it won't reappear.
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Actually, I believe Samsung is working on a resolution.
I was trying out the 4.2.1 stock leaked ROM, and to my surprise found that zRam was enabled (thanks to Yank, check out the discussion over on the "bestmultitaskingfix" thread).
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Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
wangdaning said:
Alright, I have read a lot of threads about this issue, but it always amazes me. I am not sure what is up with your phones. I just did a quick test. I opened messaging to a certain message, opened dropbox to my camera uploads, opened xda to this thread, and opened two games (subway surf and hill climb racing). I am able to switch between them with no reloading, fairly quick goes right back to where I was. Checking my ram I am still at 706MB/832MB. After closing it all down I am at 466MB/832MB.
Not sure what I am doing differently. I am running wanamlite v5.5. I have not done anything else special.
I suggest looking a little closer at your phone. What have you done to it and what is taking your memory. Surely there is something(s) you don't really need sucking up your memory.
I know many people report this issue, but I think everyone has a different situation. I don't see how I have no issue and others do, must be some change on the users part that causes/prevents this problem.
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Hii. well try this run angry birds & subway surf same time plus songs in background & any messenger like nimbuzz then switch between apps & revert here please. also a live wallpaper. :angel:
I am just mentioning basic games. i tried running gta vc & nfs mw but both reloads after first switch.
Hey all, I am interested in buying the Canvas HD after seeing all the comments and great reviews about the device.
There are some questions in my mind though and would really appreciate it if someone would clarify on them.
This could also serve for people like me who want to buy this phone.
1st
What is the 'exact' RAM in it?
As in Settings>Applications>Running = Total RAM (Used + Free memory)
2nd
Does it play 1080p .mkv format videos?
MX player shows S/W or H/W rendering.
3rd
There was an issue about 'Flipboard' not running. Has it been fixed?
4th
Any lags or problems, we should be aware of beforehand?
Thanks a lot to people who may help
nabeeleinstein said:
Hey all, I am interested in buying the Canvas HD after seeing all the comments and great reviews about the device.
There are some questions in my mind though and would really appreciate it if someone would clarify on them.
This could also serve for people like me who want to buy this phone.
1st
What is the 'exact' RAM in it?
As in Settings>Applications>Running = Total RAM (Used + Free memory)
2nd
Does it play 1080p .mkv format videos?
MX player shows S/W or H/W rendering.
3rd
There was an issue about 'Flipboard' not running. Has it been fixed?
4th
Any lags or problems, we should be aware of beforehand?
Thanks a lot to people who may help
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Hi,
First of all, great device in that price range for sure. I loved it.
Here are my experiences to your questions:
1> Exact RAM is 0.99 GB. Also the consumed RAM at any time on my phone has not crossed > ~600 MB. I have a lot of apps installed and running on phone except heavy games. You can be rest assured that 400 MB RAM would be available unless you try to crack 512-bit SHA secured password (just kidding ). The RAM is just fine for the phone and the phone runs smooth with that.
2> It does play 1080p video easily, not sure about .mkv though. There is an app for .mkv in the play store somewhere, so you can search.
3> Don't care much about Flipboard and Yes ! It was fixed. You have atleast 5-6 active ROMs in development for the device so you can try different ROMs if you face any issue. Though rooted STOCK ROM is the best IMHO.
4> There had been no lags for me whatsoever. I was really happy with my device until yesterday when the phone suddenly stopped recognizing any SIM cards. Have heard a lot about pathetic Micromax after sales service but still going to give it a shot myself.
Get the damn phone and wish you never have to visit MMX service center. Welcome to the darkside, we are QUAD core
Yeah this is a beast
anuragupadhaya said:
Hi,
First of all, great device in that price range for sure. I loved it.
Here are my experiences to your questions:
1> Exact RAM is 0.99 GB. Also the consumed RAM at any time on my phone has not crossed > ~600 MB. I have a lot of apps installed and running on phone except heavy games. You can be rest assured that 400 MB RAM would be available unless you try to crack 512-bit SHA secured password (just kidding ). The RAM is just fine for the phone and the phone runs smooth with that.
2> It does play 1080p video easily, not sure about .mkv though. There is an app for .mkv in the play store somewhere, so you can search.
3> Don't care much about Flipboard and Yes ! It was fixed. You have atleast 5-6 active ROMs in development for the device so you can try different ROMs if you face any issue. Though rooted STOCK ROM is the best IMHO.
4> There had been no lags for me whatsoever. I was really happy with my device until yesterday when the phone suddenly stopped recognizing any SIM cards. Have heard a lot about pathetic Micromax after sales service but still going to give it a shot myself.
Get the damn phone and wish you never have to visit MMX service center. Welcome to the darkside, we are QUAD core
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yes of course anuraag is right . this mob is a beast.
Thanks a lot for the quick reply guys.
I had a bad experience with the ninja 4 (low ram was the killer), so wanted to make sure first.
I think i'll wait for canvas 4 reveal and if within budget go for it,
but i'm leaning towards this due to thriving community and xda thread of its own
thanks again guys
do keep updated.
btw is the source code available?
I mean are people building from source, as will 4.3 update be possible?