Clockworkmod vs Bootstrap vs Safestrap etc - Motorola Droid RAZR

Few questions. I upgraded my phone in the last couple of months from the HTC Incredible to the Droid Razr Maxx. I had a great experience with rooting my DInc and using Clockworkmod along with Rom Manager to to flash CM7 nightlies and so forth.
Anyway, now that I'm using a Razr it seems like a lot of the forums I've been searching in don't use Clockworkmod but other recovery utilities such as Bootstrap and Safestrap to name a couple. One of my questions is...does it really matter what recovery I use to flash a particular Rom? Why is one recommended over another?
In the last week I wanted to try flashing Eclipse on my Razr using Clockworkmod but a guy in another forum mentioned and recommended using a different recovery. Can one recovery be more stable than another? I'm somewhat tech savvy but definitely not to the degree of so many great developers I lean on in this site. Thanks again by the way!

If you use an XT912 you have to use Safestrap (2.0 if you're on ICS)
If you got an XT910 you can't use the regular Safestrap. Instead you have to use Bootstrap (ClockWorkMod)
Best way to flash on XT910 is the Boot Menu Manager (based on ClockWorkMod with an lot of features)
XT910 = Bootstrap / BootMenu
XT912 = Safestrap
That's all
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HSD-Pilot said:
If you use an XT912 you have to use Safestrap (2.0 if you're on ICS)
If you got an XT910 you can't use the regular Safestrap. Instead you have to use Bootstrap (ClockWorkMod)
Best way to flash on XT910 is the Boot Menu Manager (based on ClockWorkMod with an lot of features)
XT910 = Bootstrap / BootMenu
XT912 = Safestrap
That's all
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I have XT912 and have clockworkmod on there already. Should i remove it and put safestrap on there instead? Is it bad to have 2 recoveries on there?
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HSD-Pilot said:
If you use an XT912 you have to use Safestrap (2.0 if you're on ICS)
If you got an XT910 you can't use the regular Safestrap. Instead you have to use Bootstrap (ClockWorkMod)
Best way to flash on XT910 is the Boot Menu Manager (based on ClockWorkMod with an lot of features)
XT910 = Bootstrap / BootMenu
XT912 = Safestrap
That's all
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Cant you use bootmenu for XT912 as well?
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Many Roms for the XT912 tell in the instructions to use Safestrap.
You can't use both of them, so you should uninstall Bootstrap and get Safestrap running.
Uninstall Bootstrap isn't just uninstall the App through the Drawer. You have to delete some files manually and so on.
Search xda for how to uninstall Bootstrap and you will find an way. I've never tried to uninstall it without flashing an Fastboot through RSD (for me the easiest solution).
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HSD-Pilot said:
Many Roms for the XT912 tell in the instructions to use Safestrap.
You can't use both of them, so you should uninstall Bootstrap and get Safestrap running.
Uninstall Bootstrap isn't just uninstall the App through the Drawer. You have to delete some files manually and so on.
Search xda for how to uninstall Bootstrap and you will find an way. I've never tried to uninstall it without flashing an Fastboot through RSD (for me the easiest solution).
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If i flash safestrap will that override clockworkmod
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jevans3681 said:
If i flash safestrap will that override clockworkmod
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No. You need to uninstall Bootstrap and then install SafeStrap.

I got the RAZR Maxx CDMA Verizon Wireless. Which recovery do I use and how do I install it?
I use to have a GS2 so I'm use to using clockworkmod.
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This is a QA thread and should be moved to QA. There is no dev going on.
Thanks

Fwiw - I'm using bootstrap on my razr Maxx with no problems. Btw, I'm on Verizon CDMA.
And, in my opinion, I see no reason to use rom manager since everything in it either needs cwm (which says it isn't supported) or premium acct. I do use rom toolbox for some changes, but not much. Bootstrap gets me into a recovery so I can do backups and recovery. Backup apps via titanium backup for best coverage, imo.
Is that wrong? I I figure if it works, don't fix it. Lol

HSD-Pilot said:
If you use an XT912 you have to use Safestrap (2.0 if you're on ICS)
If you got an XT910 you can't use the regular Safestrap. Instead you have to use Bootstrap (ClockWorkMod)
Best way to flash on XT910 is the Boot Menu Manager (based on ClockWorkMod with an lot of features)
XT910 = Bootstrap / BootMenu
XT912 = Safestrap
That's all
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Thanks for confirming the point about Safestrap...
After rooting my GSM XT910 MAXX I could not find the Boot Menu Manager in the the Play ... when I check on-line it said it was not compatible with my device. Should I go ahead and download/install the apk?
cheers -james

jmcqup said:
Thanks for confirming the point about Safestrap...
After rooting my GSM XT910 MAXX I could not find the Boot Menu Manager in the the Play ... when I check on-line it said it was not compatible with my device. Should I go ahead and download/install the apk?
cheers -james
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BootMenu - ICS only
Works for XT909,XT910,XT912 (including maxx)

whirleyes said:
BootMenu - ICS only
Works for XT909,XT910,XT912 (including maxx)
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yup.
this is what i use on my XT910: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDMsImNvbS5wcm9qZWN0bGVuc2UuYm9vdG1lbnUiXQ..

HSD-Pilot said:
If you use an XT912 you have to use Safestrap (2.0 if you're on ICS)
If you got an XT910 you can't use the regular Safestrap. Instead you have to use Bootstrap (ClockWorkMod)
Best way to flash on XT910 is the Boot Menu Manager (based on ClockWorkMod with an lot of features)
XT910 = Bootstrap / BootMenu
XT912 = Safestrap
That's all
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Florestan2 said:
Fwiw - I'm using bootstrap on my razr Maxx with no problems. Btw, I'm on Verizon CDMA.
And, in my opinion, I see no reason to use rom manager since everything in it either needs cwm (which says it isn't supported) or premium acct. I do use rom toolbox for some changes, but not much. Bootstrap gets me into a recovery so I can do backups and recovery. Backup apps via titanium backup for best coverage, imo.
Is that wrong? I I figure if it works, don't fix it. Lol
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Ok - I'm going to amend my previous post. I've since updated to JB this month, and haven't put Bootstrap or Safestrap back on yet. Right before I updated to JB, though, I noticed I couldn't restore my nand backup throught BS though. Did some digging around online, and found this was a common problem. No matter what I tried, it was unsuccessful. Oh well, there went that process.
However, I've never been a fan SafeStrap (or dual booting in general). I'm hesistant to install SS because I don't understand how it works (compared to BStrap). I'm already at the point where my system ROM (stock) has a mere 2kB left of free space. Don't ask how that happened, I don't know. And I wish there were more, honestly.
So if I install SafeStrap - what about my storage issues? Where does slot 0, slot 1, slot 2 reside? Are they on the system ROM partition? Or stored on the SD Card? Or in built in memory? See attached for amount of space available... you can see why I'm concerned about space availability!

Personally, I think Safestrap is superior and it has saved my phone on numerous occasions. I'm not sure how similar the underlying processes are, but dual booting my phone is similar to dual booting my computer. Safestrap is phenomenal because it boots before either rom does, so if there is an issue with one installation, then you can reinstall it from a backup, etc. The latest Safestrap is based off of TWRP I believe. The system works very well, has a lot of features and supports touch.
As far as your problem booting your custom ROM is concerned (if I read your post correctly), it may be because when you updated to JB, your kernel was updated as well, so you can only use ROMs compatible with your current kernel.

Thanks for the vote of confidence. I don't have a custom ROM though. I'm still stock, rooted.

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How do I change rom after root?

I've rooted my phone, and looked for a guide on how to change rom and I didnt find one.
Can anyone link me a guide on how to change rom on RAZR?
Thanks in advance.
You need to install bootstrap recovery and then install CWM on boot package. After you've done that you can download a custom rom and install it via recovery. I wrote an article about this on my blog, here is the link
http://aashrey99razr.wordpress.com/roms/how-to-flash/
You can also use safe strap.
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flashman2002 said:
You can also use safe strap.
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isnt SafeStrap for CMDA users only?
Mobzter said:
isnt SafeStrap for CMDA users only?
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I don't know. But the OP didn't specify so that's why I mentioned it.
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Can i flash a eclipse on 181?

I have the 181 update installed but seems like waiting for Ics on RAZR is going to take way longer than expected. I want to switch to something new like eclipse....Ics leak had too many issues for me. So can i flash a rom while running on 181?
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Absolutely, I flashed on .181 and have had zero problems. Eclipse is even a little more battery efficient.
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Awesome I cannot wait to flash later. What's best way to go about this?
Bootstrap or safestrap?
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If you're an XT912(CDMA-Verizon) owner go safestrap as its safer,no bootlooops, switching between ROMs. Sadly, if you're an XT910(GSM) owner you'll have to use bootstrap.
Here's a website with some helpful guides on how to install either one of them, how to install ROM and more.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...3JnkDA&usg=AFQjCNGZeJwX4LU_VEBRk0JxcfiburW23Q

SafeStrap

I have a rooted razr, with safestrap installed. Is there a way to use cwm recovery instead? I see that you can install cwm using bootstrap, but everyone seems to like safestrap better. well from what i have read. Any input would be great.
Thanks
brex2040 said:
I have a rooted razr, with safestrap installed. Is there a way to use cwm recovery instead? I see that you can install cwm using bootstrap, but everyone seems to like safestrap better. well from what i have read. Any input would be great.
Thanks
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Safestrap and bootstrap are cwm scripts.
Bootstrap is for motorola Razr abd Safestrap for Droid Razr and Maxx from verizon..
Cheers
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Which is better to run with Verizon Droid Razr?
brex2040 said:
Which is better to run with Verizon Droid Razr?
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Safestrap.
look at the back of ur phone. if it says XT912 (it's CDMA) use SafeStrap.
if it says XT910 (it's GSM) use BootStrap.
R3dbeaver said:
Safestrap.
look at the back of ur phone. if it says XT912 (it's CDMA) use SafeStrap.
if it says XT910 (it's GSM) use BootStrap.
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Uhhh, you can use either recoveries with the cdma razor.
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flashman2002 said:
Uhhh, you can use either recoveries with the cdma razor.
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He's just saying that safestrap is safer.
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Why would one be more safer then the other? I installed CWT (ClockworkMod Touch) before hearing about Safestrap, should I install safestrap and forget CWT? I much prefer CWT to anything else I've ever used... But I will stick with whatever is recommended
Safestrap
I have used both Bootstrap and Safestrap. I prefer Bootstrap, because it doesn't show up at the beginning of a boot up. If you want to get into the recovery, then you go to the app and select too. Right now i am using Safestrap v2.

Unrooted, but forgot to uninstall/remove SafeStrap Recovery.

I want to fully unroot my Droid Razr, and thought I was fine, but the Recovery splash screen continues to show up. I did a factory reset...still showing. I tried to reinstall Safestrap 3.11, but it force closes before it can do anything.
Can I get some help from you guys? Please?
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You need to root again, install the apk, uninstall recovery, uninstall the apk, then unroot once again
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Thank You! I'll report back.
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It doesn't work...no matter what. I found the error during the exclamation point death... missing "guide to urs." Guide to Use?
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Bump for help. I am no unrooted, and I don't have any worries about losing data or anything. I just want to get the phone up to Jelly Bean.
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AW: Unrooted, but forgot to uninstall/remove SafeStrap Recovery.
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/cdma_spyder/cdma_spyder_9.8.2O-72_VZW-16_1ff.xml.zip
Flash it with RSD Lite.
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Flash it with RSD Lite
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Could you explain how this will help? I would obviously have to reroot.
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bigpapajon said:
Could you explain how this will help? I would obviously have to reroot.
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Root has nothing to do with this. A fastboot flash overwrites everything on the phone and starts fresh. You can root after you flash using razr_blade or Matt's 1.90 utility. The .16 OTA has a root path already.
Awesome. I just need to read up about fastboot flashing.
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RSD Lite didn't work for me, but Matt's Razr app worked like a charm!
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[Q] Install custom ROM as stock

I have a Verizon cdma Droid Razr Maxx xt912 that I've gained root access on using the BLADE exploit. I installed safestrap v3.11 and have been using it to try out a few ROMS, my favorite of which is Liquidsmooth v2.9 (it was the only one that worked 100%). I would like to completely remove all traces of the STOCK Motorola/Verizon Jellybean and install Liquidsmooth as the sole operating system. Is this even possible?
Yes,it is possible, but not recommended, because it is based on CM 10.1 and it has bugs,but you could do it using BMM,just keep a nandroid backup of your stock system for when you need stability,believe me it will happen.
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+1, Aztek. I wouldn't RSD anything except stock. Best off BMM or Safestrapping and using a separate partition. Believe me when I say- you will, at some point, want to start over from scratch...and for it to be easy.

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