I found this article while surfing around today. What do you think?
http://www.slashgear.com/motorola-to-unlock-bootloaders-starting-with-the-photon-q-26240460/
Motorola sponsored bootloader unlock. Would be nice. Wonder if it'll only apply to any new phone only. HTC applied it to almost all previous phones but what incentive does Motorola have to put work into phones that are no longer being sold?
mrf582 said:
Motorola sponsored bootloader unlock. Would be nice. Wonder if it'll only apply to any new phone only. HTC applied it to almost all previous phones but what incentive does Motorola have to put work into phones that are no longer being sold?
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oh i could almost bet itll be for newer phones only, but itd be nice if we could use that **** for the x2
My biggest wretched is will this happen with VZW. Look what happened with the SGSIII.
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Work? What work.... Give us the dang encryption key and we will say thanks/bye
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Work? What work.... Give us the dang encryption key and we will say thanks/bye
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It really shouldn't be a huge deal, but they have to create a small bit of software that wipes the device, unlocks the bootloader, and marks that the warranty is void somehow.
And what they have not said that perhaps the phone would have to be bought at full price. You have to wonder how they plan to put the catch in there.
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so i saw this tweet interaction on Motorola's website and followed it to a twitter user who asks about a RAZR user and it doesn't look like it will happen (for any of us). If they do release some downloadable tool maybe there's a hope it can be exploited. Other than that don't hold your breath.
This is only for the new Moto Q (or whatever it's called) and currently, it's only for Sprint customers. No unlocking of older phones, especially on Big Red.
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This is only for the new Moto Q (or whatever it's called) and currently, it's only for Sprint customers. No unlocking of older phones, especially on Big Red.
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we may be able to use the tool in some way though..
but im just excited for possible kexec on the dx2
Yeah way too good to be true and not coming to Dx2 , Verizon already nixed plans for moto unlocks on some devices. Big V wants to suck you dry and they don;t want any "unauthorized " features being added . They want a dime for every Facebook message you send , mark my words, that will be coming soon to a phone near you.
Yeah I call bs... moto never gonna gas about you ke or any one .... especialy "laura" ...lmao .
I had a good laugh at that screen shot especially when the bot gavevher the same bs generic protocol answer second time around.
We are on our own. Just accept it.
Even if they do start allowing unlocking via their version of unlock tool.... yoy think big red gonna allow that?
Just look at htc ...." from now on all our phones will be unlockable ..."
(Crowd cheers)
Few minutes later...
"Except all our new flagship phones on att.. and maybe some on verizon... ok ok maybe so truth is we have unlock tool but you can't use it..."
One day..
One day
Some dev is going to figure out some kind of universal unlock tool...
Until that day ....were just slaves.
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Who watched the ICS launch and is even more angry about having a locked bootloader?
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I watched the event. Now hoping that the X2 is on the list to get the update.
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I am going to say that the X2 wont get it, at least not anytime soon until Moto breaks it down and skins it(so maybe next summer). The fact that there is so much built into the phone to function without buttons means that Moto has to build in and map their functionality. And, since supposedly the Xoom is the first to get it on tablet, you would think it would go to the Razr, then Bionic/Atrix 2/Photon 4g, THEN the lower end devices. Needless to say, I don't think you should get your hopes up.
I watched it though. I was VERY impressed with some of the things I saw! The lock screen portion with the video was really cool! However, I don't think I would want my phone to do that everytime, seems too tedious still. Maybe after the phone has been passive for 20 minutes or something like that.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
fargles said:
is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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I think the "thing" is Google wanting to buy Motorola Mobility
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Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1309629
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
Where can I watch a replay of the event?
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How creditable is that fella, wolfe? 31 posts w/ 8 thx. If he had a connection like that you'd think his post count would be retarded with threads on unlocks since his buddy "...would come over to my house and unlock my bootloader".
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Yeah, take it with a grain of salt for sure. Worth a read at least.
Here is why it had me thinking. Moto always blames Verizon for the BL. HTC and Sammy phones get unlocked all day. So why would Verizon bias Moto? It gets the gears churning boys...
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I don't believe any Moto phone has their bl unlocked, do they? The lock is all Moto. My gut is telling me if it were up to Google they would have all phones
unlocked and completely open.
Either way, thx for sharing! Good to see you lingering around here yet.
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ATRIX, photon (aka MoPho), OG Droid, XOOM, and a couple more I believe.
Unlocked.
Edit: eris = HTC. Garbage phone btw.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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My thoughts are, with the patent wars, Google is trying to cover their ass right now. Until the proposed deal is approved, they are wanting to make sure that nothing slips thru the cracks that could be harmful to their cause in the hands of the opposition. Not to mention, they probably have some new devices in testing along with new hardware components that would be in Google's best interest not to have leaked until they are certified by the FCC. I am going to have to give Google the benefit of the doubt, and say until the deal is approved, they are doing what they can to cover their asses.
As far as VZW being to blame for Moto, I think it has to do with the fact that Moto is an American company, and they can be pressured by big Red. Whereas HTC and Samsung typically have a broader market share outside of the US. Especially with Sammy being a monstrosity of a Korean company in all terms. I lived in Korea for 2 years(Army), LG and Sammy run their world over their! LG is even the biggest ISP! They are leaps and bounds beyond what we have in the US over there though. Thanks to the FCC and FTC! My computer monitors are 2 Innopix 24" OLED 1920x1200 and I bought them there almost 4 years ago for $150/ea! I built my entire computer setup there Feb 2008, I still score a 6.8 on Windows experience index. Cost me less than $1,500 for what would have cost $4,000 easily to buy off of Best Buys shelf... Not to mention Apple, ugh.
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Back on topic, I heard that all phones running 2.3 will get ics...that means us. So I have my hopes up. I also have my hopes that moto will make good on their deadline to unlock their devices.
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The simple fact that they locked the Razr before it is even released, lends me to believe your hopes will be crushed. Sorry man, no reason to lock a phone during the same period you stated you would unlock them.
Now, if 4.0 is still a "Google Experience" as other phones update to it, without their blur's and sense's like honeycomb was for tablets, MAYBE.
Didn't I read ICS requires 1G of RAM?
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is the "thing" that was announced the Nexus?
Why was Moto stuff being locked down?
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According to a spokesman, the lockdown was at the request of the carrier -- VZW, in this case. I am so sick of the shenanigans ...
I sent a tweet to moto asking if they have a list of phones that is going to get the ICS update. Maybe they will respond.
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I read somewhere that ice cream sandwich has hardware acceleration. Yay! Lol
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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I understand the locked bootloaders because VZW probably spends thousands of dollars replacing phones for people who don't know what they are doing, just trying to impress friends. But still, we payed for it, its ours, we should be able to break it if we want
And I think we will get ICS, it just might take longer than expected.
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Yea If I want to ruin my phone that should be my life choice.
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Motorola said that within 6 weeks after the release of ICS they would announce what phones will get the ICS update.
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We need your help to unlock all Motorola bootloaders.
Help us by signing the petition to achieve 7500 signatures.
http://www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
Regards.
With the upcoming release of the razr dev edition, maybe we actually stand a chance of getting the unlock from motorola!
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Signed, though it honestly won't make a bit of difference.
Jlewis894 said:
With the upcoming release of the razr dev edition, maybe we actually stand a chance of getting the unlock from motorola!
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this has already made its way through here
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Signed, though it honestly won't make a bit of difference.
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That's the spirit!
Don't be so pessimistic. Motorola will listen when they realize how many millions they lose when people switch to a different manufacturer.
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That's the spirit!
Don't be so pessimistic. Motorola will listen when they realize how many millions they lose when people switch to a different manufacturer.
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..this isn't the first petition I've signed regarding the locked bootloader, the last one I signed had well over 10 thousand signatures over a year ago. You confusing pessimism with a sense of reality.
They don't care what you think, and at the end of the day it's Verizon's call, why else would they claim by the end of 2011 they'd be releasing unlocked phones yet do exactly the opposite?
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this has already made its way through here
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Ohh i knoww just a thought that popped in my head when i saw the new thread lol
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..this isn't the first petition I've signed regarding the locked bootloader, the last one I signed had well over 10 thousand signatures over a year ago. You confusing pessimism with a sense of reality.
They don't care what you think, and at the end of the day it's Verizon's call, why else would they claim by the end of 2011 they'd be releasing unlocked phones yet do exactly the opposite?
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Then why did HTC get Verizon to allow them to unlock boot loaders? In the end, Motorola could force Verizon's hand. Somehow HTC did.
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Then why did HTC get Verizon to allow them to unlock boot loaders? In the end, Motorola could force Verizon's hand. Somehow HTC did.
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Because Moto is Verizon's little baby and they want it as locked down as possible?
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Because Moto is Verizon's little baby and they want it as locked down as possible?
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doesnt their contract end soon? i figure right now theyre tied down to vzw through it, but hopefully moto will unlock after the contract ends, weve just gotta be perseverant and keep hitting moto where it hurts
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im all for it, F the feds man. fight the power
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..this isn't the first petition I've signed regarding the locked bootloader, the last one I signed had well over 10 thousand signatures over a year ago. You confusing pessimism with a sense of reality.
They don't care what you think, and at the end of the day it's Verizon's call, why else would they claim by the end of 2011 they'd be releasing unlocked phones yet do exactly the opposite?
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Here's an avenue that could possibly be pursued - forward a copy of the petition to the Federal Trade Commission for their input. Put it as a restraint of trade issue and you might get somewhere. If HTC/Samsung/LG phones are being unlocked, then it stands to reason that Verizon is keeping Motorola on a short leash and interfering with consumers rights.
I have participated in the soaks tests and it seems to me they do it more as a formality rather than caring on input. I say what I think there but I never see any changes that come from that input. It seems the soaks are released whether there are problems with them or not.
I can see why some would take a realistic view. Now if the deal for Google to buy Motorola gets approved I expect we will see some good changes. I am still hoping that makes it through. So I would say I am cautiously optimistic. Maybe the petition will help too though I expect the deal they have with Verizon might get in the way.
*Ignore*
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Well let it circulate more. Foe the newbs. And maybe we need to spam Verizon too...
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It has been mentioned somewhere recently that the Motorola lockdown has.to do with obligations to some international contracts or some garbage.
Doesn't.Motorola make phones for the U.S gov't?
Maybe that's their "international overseas obligations "
Sounds very reasonable and likely
Any else been keeping up with this petition Its less than 100 signatures from the 10,000 mark. Take a look...www.change.org/petitions/motorola-mobility-inc-unlock-all-smartphone-bootloaders-2
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Bump, I signed.
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Done and done
like to see this hit the 10,000 mark -
http://www.androidhubnetwork.com/20...ces-will-not-receive-bootloader-unlock-tools/
F U too moto (and Google too since you now own them?)
Thanks Google !.......Jackasses !
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We've gone over this already. It is Google not moto. Google bought moto just for patents they stay out of the operations side. Blame is squarely moto. It really surprises me people haven't accepted yet that we wont ever get an officially unlocked bl.
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Bastards.... at least we have people working on a kexex
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Actually Verizon loves to slow it down so they can figure out how to nickel and dime customers to rake in more $$$. That's it. After all, the Big V would not want you to install any "unauthorized" enhancements would they? No Sir, they want to make sure and get every dime they can out of you for their poor services.
Guess this is another example of Motorola and Verizon selfishness..... dish out a phone that has so much potential and control every damn aspect of the phone YOU PAID for... then release a slightly modified version of the same product that you regret buying but can't do anything because of your 2 years contract.... All because these bastards just wanna squeeze every penny out of your pocket.
Not to mention not standing by your phone that's barely a year old and ditching it in every single way possible is plain unfair... no ics for dx2 officially, now we can't even have an option of unlocking our phones because we want to renew its life and open up its potentials? Denied by those bastards
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Retweet this https://twitter.com/xboxfanj/status/263413673643630593
And send this to all applicable LG support channels
Why are you alienating the development enthusiasts with your Optimus G? It has unparalleled hardware, but the locked bootloader makes it a tough sell for myself and the development enthusiasts at XDA, RootzWiki, and many more sites, and it also makes me unlikely to recommend it to my friends and family who go to me for advice on their technological purchases (and people who go to other development experts around the world). Samsung has unlocked bootloaders. Motorola and HTC have unlockable bootloaders. Now, it's time to step it up, LG and follow suit. I know you don't want me and millions of people like me to buy from your competitors. So fix it!
I really want to buy your Optimus G and have the beautiful design and amazing S4 Pro processor, but if I have to forfeit that to be able to use my phone how I would like, that's a sacrifice I am willing to make.
There are 1,310 people and counting who have signed this petition asking for an unlockable bootloader, so get your act together, LG.
http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
This could propel you ahead of Samsung, Apple, and HTC, since your hardware at the moment is by far the best, but your software, updates, and developer support are lacking. An unlockable bootloader would end these complaints and make hundreds of thousands of people more likely to buy an Optimus G.
And don't forget to sign this petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/lg-...opportunity-to-unlock-bootloader-in-lg-phones
Together, we can make LG change.
Together, we can make the Optimus G a better phone.
Let's unite and make LG unlock those bootloaders, just as consumers have made HTC and Motorola do the same.
This too: https://twitter.com/xboxfanj/status/263415788218753024
And send that to their other channels as well. The more people that send this, the more likely it is that LG will acquiesce.
Here is the response I got from LG's email:
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The bootloader is locked, Jake, at the Carrier's request I'm afraid.
If you are looking for a Developer device, however, then you can look forward to a device that Google should be announcing sometime this week.
So sorry about the inconvenience this has caused, and I hope you have a great day!
That's BS since Sprint, my carrier, doesn't have any locked devices.
I told them that and haven't heard back yet.
Yes! we need this to get in the google search rankings, so android owners (non lg) can even participate. If anyone has some clout with any android news sites, etc, please flex that muscle!!
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Yes! we need this to get in the google search rankings, so android owners (non lg) can even participate. If anyone has some clout with any android news sites, etc, please flex that muscle!!
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Ooh great idea. I will try to take care of that.
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Over on the LG optimus g forum a few spots above thus in they are really close to unlocking this. They have everything so it's a matter of time now. I don't do this stuff anymore but I'm happy for this.
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Over on the LG optimus g forum a few spots above thus in they are really close to unlocking this. They have everything so it's a matter of time now. I don't do this stuff anymore but I'm happy for this.
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Yep. Its almost unlocked. Sextape hooked thecubed up with some leaked files and thecubed is using those to hack the bootloader.
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Yep. Its almost unlocked. Sextape hooked thecubed up with some leaked files and thecubed is using those to hack the bootloader.
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The minute after it DOES get unlocked, LG gets some of my money. Of course, the Nexus 4 is right around the corner, but I figure buying this model is the better long-term acquisition because of the massive upside.
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The minute after it DOES get unlocked, LG gets some of my money. Of course, the Nexus 4 is right around the corner, but I figure buying this model is the better long-term acquisition because of the massive upside.
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If you feel generous, maybe support the people who helped make it happen: primarily thecubed and sextape and also kmdm and shellnut2 and one more guy, who I forget.
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If you feel generous, maybe support the people who helped make it happen: primarily thecubed and sextape and also kmdm and shellnut2 and one more guy, who I forget.
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I will probably do so next week. The wife gets a little angry when I donate too often, and I donated to help a guy who got scammed in the MP this week.
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I will probably do so next week. The wife gets a little angry when I donate too often, and I donated to help a guy who got scammed in the MP this week.
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That's very nice of you.
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Locked bootloader eh? That's a deal breaker.
And if they do unlock it eventually they'll probably impose some method of being able to tell it's been unlocked, like my Vivid's "relocked" text if you relock voiding any chance of a warranty claim if it breaks.
Bummer. Really figured this phone might be better than the nexus 4 since it's pretty much identical but has more storage, an sd and lte. If it was unlocked, you could pretty much make it a nexus with no compromises.
Also pretty pathetic it only has 4.03 on it. What's with manufacturers releasing new phones with outdated oses on it?
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Need some advice; should I buy the Motorola Atrix 4G or Sony Xperia Sola? I plan to use it with Straight Talk AT&T.
I'd go with the xperia if you have no other option. The Atrix has better specs but you'll at least start out with ICS on that and likely get JB later on. Moto has all nut abandoned the Atrix and aside from a small patch coming soon it has little life left before it's ancient history.
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I'd go with the xperia if you have no other option. The Atrix has better specs but you'll at least start out with ICS on that and likely get JB later on. Moto has all nut abandoned the Atrix and aside from a small patch coming soon it has little life left before it's ancient history.
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Interesting, so you have the Atrix but you'd rather have the Sola?
I posted the same thread in the Sola forum and 2 voted for the Atrix while 2 voted for the Sola. I suppose it's a toss-up
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Interesting, so you have the Atrix but you'd rather have the Sola?
I posted the same thread in the Sola forum and 2 voted for the Atrix while 2 voted for the Sola. I suppose it's a toss-up
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No, I'd rather have a phone that can be upgraded. I love the Atrix but for 'financial reasons' it's been ditched by it's manufacturer offering virtually no further support.
Although there is a slight possibility of an agreement whereby we may be able to get source for the upgrades, there won't be any official upgrades. To me there is no excuse for such poor support of a device. Particularly when you consider far more complex computers receiving updates sometimes a decade or more after it's release. I do give at least some respect (even though I shouldn't) for the fact that they dug themselves a hole to support far too many devices at once with a runaway release of newer ones each year which makes it logistically impossible to support them.
Get neither, wait for Motorola X. Should be as cheap as Nexus 4 if rumors are true.
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Get neither, wait for Motorola X. Should be as cheap as Nexus 4 if rumors are true.
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Definitely not the direction I'm going in. Seems a bit too much like rewarding them for failing to deliver on the updates and gives them more incentive to do the same thing all over again knowing that people will still keep buying regardless of how much they fail to deliver.
Matrix is a good phone Motorola threw it away I got HTC Onex on Att bench mark stock 7600 never got close to that with. Atrix
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absolutely SONY，MOTO had lost customer‘s trust.
Xperia Sola.
Sony or Samsung.
Xperia Sola. It have much better support, plus, it will get ported stock JB.
If you seek for a latest update, minimal usage(surfing,text,mainstream games)get the Sola. Overall experience, I'd go for Atrix eventho it got left behind with Gingy..
The Atrix have tons of awesome hardware (fingerprint sensor etc) , nice build quality and better audio. If you're much of a customizing and not afraid of unlocking your phone, go for Atrix
Don't buy an operator branded Sony handset! Unbranded ones are great, and very well supported but going by my experience with a friend's Xperia U, branded handsets are locked down like Fort Knox.
Why not an atrix2?
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Definitely not the direction I'm going in. Seems a bit too much like rewarding them for failing to deliver on the updates and gives them more incentive to do the same thing all over again knowing that people will still keep buying regardless of how much they fail to deliver.
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Motorola isn't the only company that has screwed someone over. Anyways the Motorola X is going to be the first phone released with Key Lime Pie. So technically it's a Nexus without its branding, like the Xoom which got updates all the way til 4.1
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Motorola isn't the only company that has screwed someone over. Anyways the Motorola X is going to be the first phone released with Key Lime Pie. So technically it's a Nexus without its branding, like the Xoom which got updates all the way til 4.1
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They may not be the only company that screwed anyone over, but for a number of people, they are the one that made the device that people are currently stuck with no updates and the only reward for brand loyalty is mixing some shards of glass into the lube on your next purchase. What incentive do I or anyone else have to take another chance on Motorola?
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Motorola isn't the only company that has screwed someone over. Anyways the Motorola X is going to be the first phone released with Key Lime Pie. So technically it's a Nexus without its branding, like the Xoom which got updates all the way til 4.1
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I'm sure the AT&T Motorola X will come especially locked to prevent you accidentally installing a 'software update' if such a thing even exists. and for those who like to dig deeper, a special feature to shoot you in the face if you try to unlock the bootloader.
No thanks, never again. I won't give the company any money on principal, even if the next Nexus is a Motorola, and it's otherwise great.
That's why I'm going with the T-Mobile unsubsidized plans, and if it's as cheap as the Nexus 4 unlocked I'm going to get it.
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That's why I'm going with the T-Mobile unsubsidized plans, and if it's as cheap as the Nexus 4 unlocked I'm going to get it.
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Sad Motorola boycotter is sad to hear that XDA members will not be boycotting crappy companies who need to apologise for their crappy ways and sort this situation out by releasing kernel source at the very least.
They'll do it again, I'm sure. Don't get burned. I mean, they promised to change their ways just before cancelling the Atrix update.
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Sad Motorola boycotter is sad to hear that XDA members will not be boycotting crappy companies who need to apologise for their crappy ways and sort this situation out by releasing kernel source at the very least.
They'll do it again, I'm sure. Don't get burned. I mean, they promised to change their ways just before cancelling the Atrix update.
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Agreed. However, I was just looking at AT&T's current offerings, with the exception of a couple devices, their Android lineup is the most underwhelming thing I've seen since my LG Vu.
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T-Mobile's lineup doesn't look much better.