so do i need to wipe b4 a flash even if after the last ROM loaded i immediately re-flashed cuz i hated the the ROM? also is wipe necessary if TB really wipes every re-boot?
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so do i need to wipe b4 a flash even if after the last ROM loaded i immediately re-flashed cuz i hated the the ROM? also is wipe necessary if TB really wipes every re-boot?
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I always wipe. Period. I just find it more reliable that way. Just use Titanium Backup Pro and it makes your life very easy.
Edit: and a lot of ROM makers want you to wipe data/davlik/cache before you report a bug.
k ive been using CRW n wiping cache/factory reset then wiping dalvik wut does "wipe cache partition" do? also how does CWM recovery work as it doesn't seem to work from rom manager_ oh it seems i figured it out ,sorry stiil a little fresh
Hello guys,
My question is what the usefull solution for backup and restore the rom? CWM backup / restore seems not really working well. Xda and custom rom's dev always remind to make a backup, but when u face a problem after flashing rom, you cannot access CWM if you got bootloop, then how to restore? And if you dont like the custom rom that you just flashed for some reason, you might want to restore back to your 'fav' rom.. but unfortunately it's not work as you thought. Sometimes restore failed. Im looking the solution for this..
-restore / backup anywhere without using pc.
-not reflash the rom, this will need to customize it again.. Hassle.
-any android app or android system ability to handle this. If CWM can handle this, then tell me how to restore when u got bootloop and cannot access the recovery mod.
-if there's any other app or method, please suggest them to me.
Any help or idea will be appreciated. Thanks.
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When ever Ive made a backup Ive always booted to recovery,"backup and restore" and then "backup".That gives me a full Nandroid backup.As far as the bootloop goes Ive never had a problem to boot to recovery with the 3 button combo.If the 3 button combo works,and its never failed for me then select "backup and restore","restore".Ive also read that reflashing your kernel can solve the problem.I know a simple factory reset can,but not always.
nandroid backup is the best
You can always restore the rom when you can access the recovery mod. If you are a flasholic, you cant escape from bootloop and no recovery mod. My odin binary counter now up to 539.. Nandroid backup sometimes got problem.. Let say i made a backup a checkrom, the i flashed miui, suddenly miui got problem, and i get into recoverymod to restore back my checkrom.. When u done restoring, you will be in checkrom but this time its got many problems. Flashing compatible kernel will not solve the problem. The only solution fot me is to reflash it again.
Im not looking for this way, reflash the rom is hassle, sometimes u got bootloop and cant access recovery, then u need to get back home to use computer with odin to flash only kernel.
What else backup method other than nandroid backup.
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When ever Ive made a backup Ive always booted to recovery,"backup and restore" and then "backup".That gives me a full Nandroid backup.As far as the bootloop goes Ive never had a problem to boot to recovery with the 3 button combo.If the 3 button combo works,and its never failed for me then select "backup and restore","restore".Ive also read that reflashing your kernel can solve the problem.I know a simple factory reset can,but not always.
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How if 3button combo no longer work as it always? When theres no recovery mod for you, what will you do then?
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How if 3button combo no longer work as it always? When theres no recovery mod for you, what will you do then?
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Normally when I flash a ROM over top of another and I know,from other threads,that they are not compatable in terms of insalation and basic use(FCs)then I always do a full wipe (format system/data/cache,battery stats and fact. reset) prior to instalation.With Titanium it only takes a few minutes to reinstall my apps and during instalation there is no conflicting data between the old and new ROM which would cause a major failer to occur.Thats why if something happens the 3 button combo always works cos nothing major has happened.A factory reset and Im done,althought very rare and the nandroid backup is still in the SD if needed.The problem is when there is to many ROMs cluttering the devices system.Ive read that flashing over top of CM7,Lightning and Miui can sometimes be problamatic.
cooza said:
Normally when I flash a ROM over top of another and I know,from other threads,that they are not compatable in terms of insalation and basic use(FCs)then I always do a full wipe (format system/data/cache,battery stats and fact. reset) prior to instalation.With Titanium it only takes a few minutes to reinstall my apps and during instalation there is no conflicting data between the old and new ROM which would cause a major failer to occur.Thats why if something happens the 3 button combo always works cos nothing major has happened.A factory reset and Im done,althought very rare and the nandroid backup is still in the SD if needed.The problem is when there is to many ROMs cluttering the devices system.Ive read that flashing over top of CM7,Lightning and Miui can sometimes be problamatic.
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Ahaaa! Your description attract me, i think you're right, base on the way you explained about full wipe does make sense to me. The real interpretation of 'full wipe' is including formatting the system?
Maybe I'm doing it wrong here, flashing another rom on top of another. What usually i did is 'full wipe'... This is my step :
1 - clear data/factory reset
2 - clear cache
3 - advance > clear dalvik cache
4 - flash new rom
This is what i did, i didn't format anything as you mentioned above. Is your full wipe method lead to 'fresh install'? Well buddy, could you please note down your full wipe method step by step including format the system? Which step should i do 1st and what step next? Could you?
Thanks, highly appreciated.
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Cool.The thing is not all ROMs are compatablie and therefore can cause problems between each other.Your phone holds data from the previous ROM and also your battery collects info and data from each ROM.All this data and info if not cleaned up (and if from various non-compatablie ROMs) will most likely always result in problems.A full wipe,that I will write below is like installing your ROM on a completely clean devive.First of all a nandroid and titanium backup which i explained ealier,I think?
1.Pass the new ROM to internal-SD
2.boot to recovery and wipe cache partition,dalvik cache,battery stats(go back)
3.select "mounts and storage"
4.format cache,system and data (go back)
5.now wipe data/factory reset and your phone is now completely clean
6.now just install your ROM from the internal-SD as normal and I also do another factory reset to avoid possible bootloops and reboot device but if you get one pull the battery or use the 3 button combo to do one.
this full wipe will clean up all system data but will not touch your SD card so your titanium and nandroid backups will not be touched if you should choose to use them.Once I reinstall all my apps again with titanium its a good idea to reboot to recovery and wipe cache partition and dalvik cache then reboot phone.This will help avoid market connetion problems.
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Cool.The thing is not all ROMs are compatablie and therefore can cause problems between each other.Your phone holds data from the previous ROM and also your battery collects info and data from each ROM.All this data and info if not cleaned up (and if from various non-compatablie ROMs) will most likely always result in problems.A full wipe,that I will write below is like installing your ROM on a completely clean devive.First of all a nandroid and titanium backup which i explained ealier,I think?
1.Pass the new ROM to internal-SD
2.boot to recovery and wipe cache partition,dalvik cache,battery stats(go back)
3.select "mounts and storage"
4.format cache,system and data (go back)
5.now wipe data/factory reset and your phone is now completely clean
6.now just install your ROM from the internal-SD as normal and I also do another factory reset to avoid possible bootloops and reboot device but if you get one pull the battery or use the 3 button combo to do one.
this full wipe will clean up all system data but will not touch your SD card so your titanium and nandroid backups will not be touched if you should choose to use them.Once I reinstall all my apps again with titanium its a good idea to reboot to recovery and wipe cache partition and dalvik cache then reboot phone.This will help avoid market connetion problems.
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Omg! I thought you not gonna reply me anymore. Dude, i even copy and paste the whole texts in my note app as my reference on the future. I highly appreciated for your efforts into this. Thanks for those details.
Check your PM.
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Wasnt going to leave out in the cold mate,was just a bit busy.Thanks for the PM.Glad I could help
Hello,
My question is, if I want to go from a custom rom (ICS Stock V2 in this case) to a stock ROM flashing by Odin, do I need to wipe something from Recovery? If the answer is yes, which wipes?
just wipe cache after u flash with odin
Then no wipes before. so I won't lose any app, right?
Actually if u do that y will have a lot of issues. I recommend you to formatting all. If y don't want to lose your apps use appbrain to do a online backup. Is very easy. And y will have a clean install
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I suggest wiping everything to prevent bugs. TRUST ME everything will FC
Hi yesterday I flashed the stock 4.1.2 update to my rooted s3 and I had expected to lose all my data and apps so I backed everything up with titanium ready to restore it after the update, surprisingly I didn't lose anything after flashing.
I was just wondering if I was to flash cyanogenmod 4.1.2 would I lose all data and apps this time?
Thanks
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No - all your data/apps will stay unless you do a full wipe/factory reset in recovery.
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No - all your data/apps will stay unless you do a full wipe/factory reset in recovery.
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The data will remain, but it is a granted prerequisite to flashing that one must do a factory reset before flashing a new rom. Note: this applies only for a new rom altogether, not updates to the same one!
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You won't lose your apps/data unless you do a wipedata/factory reset . Also some roms pre-request a full wipe in order to the rom to boot .
Wipe may be asked for by the rom maker to avoid conflicts and stop users posting my app stopped this rom working .
Rom may be a wipe rom but not usually .
Personally i never full wipe unless problems but do wipe cache dalvik and system only before any instal .
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So technically should I be able to flash cyanogenmod without doing anything but wipe cache and davlik cache?
Thanks again for the help
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yes, you should be able to.
if you encounter any problems then a full wipe is recommended.
I'd back up your apps/data just in case.
Updgraded to Jelly Bean 4.1.2 via Kies. Un-rooted, stock SGH-I777. Stuck in bootloop now at AT&T logo. I already did the wipe data cache in recovery mode with no luck so it leaves me to factory reset as my next option. I've spent several hours browsing through the forum already. Do any of the below allow me to keep data?
1) Use Odin and stock firmware - downloaded the UCMD8 tar file
2) Root, install kernel w/ CWM to use backup functionality. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894)
Just need a point in the direction I need to go, I'll handle the rest.
If the result is all the same (i.e. data loss), I'll use this issue as an opportunity to put a custom ROM on my phone.
Thanks!
Yes, most likely a wipe data/factory reset performed in recovery would correct the problem, but you will lose some system data. Which specific things are you worried about losing? You won't lose your photos, or any data from applications installed from the play store.
You are going to have to perform a wipe data/factory reset to use odin and the stock UCMD8 firmware. In fact, at this point it is probably the only way out.
U could try to re Odin the firmware first. Not sure where ya got it from, but it should be a no wipe. But if that doesn't solve ur problem, then ya have a few options--- Odin a custom kernel (like AJK), and then u could Mount usb storage through recovery and backup ur stuff to ur pc. Then try to see if it will boot up without looping. If it still loops then u need to go back into recovery and wipe data/factory reset. Reboot. And it should be good. Or if ya don't care about ur data, then just reboot to recovery and wipe data and reboot.
Edit: Ninja'd by creepyncrawly !
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mostly just concerned with losing SMS but i have a backup from a few weeks ago so im not out much.
thanks for the answers! I guess i'll just have to make the plunge on one of the options.