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Hey Everyone,
basically on my new thunderbolt i don't have a texting plan but unlimited 4g lte data plan.
I started using google voice and sent out hundreds of texts, using it.
My question is will verizon CHARGE me for these texts? It'll be crudload of money....I read somewhere that they will? or is that just a silly rumor...
i dont make phone calls using google voice either, just use it to send text messages.
I also would like to know the answer to that question, as I want to do the same thing
If you're doing it over data i.e. they aren't being forwarded to your phone via text from google then no Verizon won't charge you.
nope. there is no charge for sms text message sent via google voice.
i have always thought about switching to using GV for texting, but than that would involve telling all of my friends and family to using my GV # for texting and my regular cell # for phone calls. i think that's too much trouble and people would probably end up always sending it to the wrong number.
shock2sys said:
nope. there is no charge for sms text message sent via google voice.
i have always thought about switching to using GV for texting, but than that would involve telling all of my friends and family to using my GV # for texting and my regular cell # for phone calls. i think that's too much trouble and people would probably end up always sending it to the wrong number.
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Yeah, it's nice to know I'm saving so much money by not paying VZW for texting. Luckily for me, when I moved from my iPhone on AT&T to my ThunderBolt on Verizon, I ported my old AT&T number to Google Voice...so now I'll be able to keep my number forever, as long as Google Voice doesn't get axed.
So all of a sudden I can't send Mms over wifi. Seriously??? What the hell. This isn't incredible sense 3 rims anymore god damnit
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Two minutes later it started sending. Wtf really?
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I never knew you could send over WiFi in the first place. You turn off all of your cell antenna's?
Mms is sent through data, always has been. You've probably never noticed when you've sent before a 3g or 4g signal pops up next to your wifi icon to allow sending and then disappears when done sending.
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I never knew you could send over WiFi in the first place. You turn off all of your cell antenna's?
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I have my old TBolt that is not activated (replaced with my Rezound). With a couple of market apps I can send email, text, and make calls all over wi-fi with the TBolt.
no, dear sirs, i must correct my statement, for you see i posted in a fit of rage.
lol but really, 3g always turns on when wifi is on to send an MMS. today, it woudln't, even though mobile network was on....then 3 minutes later, it just turned on and started to send lol but i HAD 3g the whole time in my house. i turned off wifi for 1 pic, and it sent...so it was a problem with the phone turning the 3g radio on to send.
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Mms is sent through data, always has been. You've probably never noticed when you've sent before a 3g or 4g signal pops up next to your wifi icon to allow sending and then disappears when done sending.
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jbh00jh said:
I have my old TBolt that is not activated (replaced with my Rezound). With a couple of market apps I can send email, text, and make calls all over wi-fi with the TBolt.
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Does any of this mean the messages are not counting towards your texting totals? I don't see why they charge extra for texting, especially the amount that they charge. Does it put a big strain on the network or is a completely different thing or is it just because they can?
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Totally free. Use google voice to do it.
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jbh00jh said:
Totally free. Use google voice to do it.
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Yeah, I've got two tabs open in Firefox now reading about google voice. I'm worried about the whole phone number thing. I don't want to possibly lose it somehow by porting it over and I also read that I may be breaking my contract with Verizon by porting it and don't want those fees for sure.
I'm new to Verizon as of 11/23 and bought my phone from Amazon. I'll have to see what they say about porting it to google voice. Still looking into it but I think I need the unlimited texting and that's $20/mo which seems excessive to me.
Would it work to test out google voice with their assigned number and forward calls there just to try it out? Would texts forward? I know I'd still get charged for the texting doing it that way. Where do you see/get the texts? Same as usual or is there a different interface?
You will have a location like you would in Gmail, etc. where all the texts would show up. Believe me, a lot of people use this and never have any problems with vzw. Of cource you don't tell vzw you are doing this. If you root your phone you don't tell vzw you did it. My daughter took a rooted phone to a vzw store this weekend to get it activated. It had a sense 3.5 rom on it and they didn't say a thing to her. VZW employees root their phones.
But if you are worried, don't do it.
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When you sign up for Google Voice they'll assign you a different phone number. This is your Google Voice number, and is only used for Google Voice calls and texts (more on that in a bit.) You can port your existing number, but I believe you'll need to pay the ETF as you're basically cancelling service on that line through Verizon. Probably not a good idea. If you don't port, you must associate the GV number with an existing phone number (probably your current mobile number.)
You can set this new Google Voice number up to transfer all incoming calls to the phone number you registered with GV. You can add other phone lines to the account, as well, and set up rules as to who gets forwarded to which number (also by time, I believe, but never tried that.) You can set up your voicemail on your phone to use GV as the voicemail provider. This means when your phone rings for an incoming call, instead of going to Verizon's voicemail, it transfers it to your GV number's voicemail, which you can read either through an app on your phone, or by using your phone's voicemail dial, if you set it up in Phone options.
You can use your GV number for SMS (not MMS, yet!) You can either have SMS to your existing number forwarded to your GV number, or the other way around, if you prefer. You can even have SMS to your GV number sent to an email address. You read/send SMS via the Google Voice app which is available on the Market. Yes, it is a different app and not the standard Messages app. You also get your voicemails through that app.
Now, here's the interesting thing, if you want to completely mask your "real" phone number on your phone, you can have Google Voice set up all your outgoing calls to go through your Google Voice number. They will still use Verizon's minutes, as I'm pretty sure all they are doing is having Verizon transfer the call directly into Google's telecom network which then "places" the call to whatever number you're calling. So by forwarding incoming calls people make to your GV number to your phone, and by making all your outgoing calls originate from your GV number, essentially you are hiding your mobile number, and providing yourself an extra layer of protection.
I don't think you can get full protection if you are using SMS, because while SMS to your GV number can forward to your phone, you can't "bounce" SMS from your phone through your GV number. If you reply to one of those, I believe it will go directly to the original sender. However, I haven't tested this, so I'm interested if anyone can confirm this or not.
And I say "protection" because Google Voice allows you to completely blacklist certain numbers. They will never be able to contact you via phone or text, if they don't know your real phone number. Useful if you have ex's that won't go away, or if you're just paranoid, like me.
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When you sign up for Google Voice they'll assign you a different phone number. This is your Google Voice number, and is only used for Google Voice calls and texts (more on that in a bit.) You can port your existing number, but I believe you'll need to pay the ETF as you're basically cancelling service on that line through Verizon. Probably not a good idea. If you don't port, you must associate the GV number with an existing phone number (probably your current mobile number.)
You can set this new Google Voice number up to transfer all incoming calls to the phone number you registered with GV. You can add other phone lines to the account, as well, and set up rules as to who gets forwarded to which number (also by time, I believe, but never tried that.) You can set up your voicemail on your phone to use GV as the voicemail provider. This means when your phone rings for an incoming call, instead of going to Verizon's voicemail, it transfers it to your GV number's voicemail, which you can read either through an app on your phone, or by using your phone's voicemail dial, if you set it up in Phone options.
You can use your GV number for SMS (not MMS, yet!) You can either have SMS to your existing number forwarded to your GV number, or the other way around, if you prefer. You can even have SMS to your GV number sent to an email address. You read/send SMS via the Google Voice app which is available on the Market. Yes, it is a different app and not the standard Messages app. You also get your voicemails through that app.
Now, here's the interesting thing, if you want to completely mask your "real" phone number on your phone, you can have Google Voice set up all your outgoing calls to go through your Google Voice number. They will still use Verizon's minutes, as I'm pretty sure all they are doing is having Verizon transfer the call directly into Google's telecom network which then "places" the call to whatever number you're calling. So by forwarding incoming calls people make to your GV number to your phone, and by making all your outgoing calls originate from your GV number, essentially you are hiding your mobile number, and providing yourself an extra layer of protection.
I don't think you can get full protection if you are using SMS, because while SMS to your GV number can forward to your phone, you can't "bounce" SMS from your phone through your GV number. If you reply to one of those, I believe it will go directly to the original sender. However, I haven't tested this, so I'm interested if anyone can confirm this or not.
And I say "protection" because Google Voice allows you to completely blacklist certain numbers. They will never be able to contact you via phone or text, if they don't know your real phone number. Useful if you have ex's that won't go away, or if you're just paranoid, like me.
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On some networks, GV outgoing calls (using your GV number as your caller ID number) are counted as call forwarding minutes. They were on T-Mobile. I can't say for sure that they are on VZW because I don't use my VZW account enough (I just pay the bill )
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On some networks, GV outgoing calls (using your GV number as your caller ID number) are counted as call forwarding minutes. They were on T-Mobile. I can't say for sure that they are on VZW because I don't use my VZW account enough (I just pay the bill )
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I don't think Big Red distinguishes those minutes from regular airtime minutes. I've made GV calls and seen the minutes show up as calls to my GV number.
lol we completely derailed the **** out of this thread ;D
but whatever, it must've just been a glitch..hasn't done it since!
jayochs said:
lol we completely derailed the **** out of this thread ;D
but whatever, it must've just been a glitch..hasn't done it since!
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Sorry jayochs! I blame jbhooh or whatever his name is, he brought it up.
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You can port your existing number, but I believe you'll need to pay the ETF as you're basically cancelling service on that line through Verizon. Probably not a good idea. If you don't port, you must associate the GV number with an existing phone number (probably your current mobile number.)
yackety yack...
You can use your GV number for SMS (not MMS, yet!) You can either have SMS to your existing number forwarded to your GV number, or the other way around, if you prefer. You can even have SMS to your GV number sent to an email address. You read/send SMS via the Google Voice app which is available on the Market. Yes, it is a different app and not the standard Messages app. You also get your voicemails through that app.
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j/k with the blahs and the yackety
Figured I didn't need to quote the whole thing but it was very useful info.
So yeah, I'm worried about ETF and not having to change my number with all my friends etc...
I'm kind of interested in the voicemail aspects but mostly I'm hoping to save the $20/mo. for texting. It really irks me that any carrier charges for text messages. So if I keep my number with Verizon I would still incur message charges through them, right?
Too bad I didn't know about this before, I could have ported my real number to google voice before I switched to Verizon from AT&T. Seems weird that they tie it to the number and not that I'm still keeping the line active. I'm going to confirm that with them.
google voice callback- not the most convenient method, but free calls. I use it when I get too close to overage.
feralicious said:
j/k with the blahs and the yackety
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I like words. I use too many of them, often.
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I like words. I use too many of them, often.
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I like your words.
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really annoying, i'm STILL getting issues where 3g will NOT kick in when wifi is on, to recieve or send. it's pissing me off now; this is JUST how the roms acted on the increidble. wtf?
Anybody else having weird problems when dialing through Google voice, it shows as dialing some weird number instead of actual recepient number, it connects fine though but both while dialing and in call log it shows as some random number.
Mine does the same thing. When I call it shows some weird number in the voice notification. But connects to the number i called.
Only difference is mine shows shows the right number while in the call and in the call log.
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Google Voice has always done this for me on my Droid X. On the DX it would be a white popup over the dialer saying it was connecting to some odd number. Sometimes it would be the same number in succession but it seems to change every now and again. It was never in the same area code as my VZW number.
Honestly, I don't know if I've made an out going call on my S3 yet! My GV number rings through to my office phone, the S3, and Google Talk/sipdroid (for IP phone goodness on the retired DX).
I have noticed that I've been able to txt someone from GV and the conversation picks up in the stock messaging app. I'm on VZW and this was NOT the case with the DX. It wouldn't pick up a reply to GV txt in stock messaging. I don't know about initiating the msg from the stock app though. I'll have to test that.
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You know I'm not sure what my old Inc does. I'll have to see if it has that weird number as well.
And as for receiving them in the stock messaging app as opposed to the voice app there is a setting in the voice app under "sync and notification" to change between the two. I've never used it through the stock messaging app so have no idea about it.
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I read somewhere that it has something to do with (at least in ATTs case) that they don't include the gvoice api. Might be the same for Verizon.
Hopefully some talented dev. will be able to make a simple CWM fix for this annoying problem.
I'm only going to be able to get it if it works on Verizon since I'm in a combined plan with my family in the US. If it is possible what version of the phone would it be, from research I've seen some sites saying it works and others saying it doesn't. It seems that the Chinese version for sure doesn't, but I hope others will, thanks!
I'm using the Chinese model on Verizon right now. Voice call won't work, but you can use it with data. Once the SIM is insert, wait for about 5-10 min, it will pick up Verizon signal. After that you will have to go into *#*=4636#*#* and set it to CDMA/LTE or LTE only for it to work with data. I'm using it with Google "hang out and hang out dialer" to make voip call (works flawlessly, the sound is just like regular phone call). Make sure to set hang out to always running in the back ground and LOCK it in the recent running app. and of course, all notification on.
Good luck!
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duybinh said:
I'm using the Chinese model on Verizon right now. Voice call won't work, but you can use it with data. Once the SIM is insert, wait for about 5-10 min, it will pick up Verizon signal. After that you will have to go into *#*=4636#*#* and set it to CDMA/LTE or LTE only for it to work with data. I'm using it with Google "hang out and hang out dialer" to make voip call (works flawlessly, the sound is just like regular phone call). Make sure to set hang out to always running in the back ground and LOCK it in the recent running app. and of course, all notification on.
Good luck!
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So can I use my Verizon number as my google hangouts/dialer number? Does everyone I know have to switch to google hangouts over texting? Do I have to give everyone I know a new phone number that is google hangouts/dialer? Do texts go to google hangouts and you can respond to them there (the people don't have google hangouts)?
EDIT: Yes, No, No, Yes
Fireflykid said:
So can I use my Verizon number as my google hangouts/dialer number? Does everyone I know have to switch to google hangouts over texting? Do I have to give everyone I know a new phone number that is google hangouts/dialer? Do texts go to google hangouts and you can respond to them there (the people don't have google hangouts)?
EDIT: Yes, No, No, Yes
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You can have your Verizon number forward to hang out number and everyone can call you on that. They don't have to switch, texting with hang out is like normal. You can give your hang out phone number only for texting, because you cannot forward text message. In short, it is not a seamless transition. If you do not want to use 2 separate numbers, the only way is to give everyone the new hangout number for both call and text
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You can have your Verizon number forward to hang out number and everyone can call you on that. They don't have to switch, texting with hang out is like normal. You can give your hang out phone number only for texting, because you cannot forward text message. In short, it is not a seamless transition. If you do not want to use 2 separate numbers, the only way is to give everyone the new hangout number for both call and text
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This is all true; however, you can port your Verizon number to Google voice (including google messenger and dialer) for a one time $20 fee; a.k.a keep your number but use google instead of Verizon.