I have honestly tried searching and can't seem to find anything that answers this question. My i777 is, and always has been completely stock and is not rooted. It came with Gingerbread 2.3.6 (I think that's right) and before I was aware of the problem with the eMMC bug, I did the official upgrade to ICS 4.0.3. I've read everything I can about the eMMC bug and my chip is 0x19, so I am at risk especially since I have the AT&T official ICS rom. I can't recall if I've ever done a reset / wipe since ICS was installed, but I suspect that I did when I first installed it. When I open task manager and look under storage, I have the following:
System storage: 350MB/1.97GB
USB storage: 2.10GB/11.36GB
The used and available USB storage should add up to close to 16GB. Combined, I only have 13.46GB.
At first I figured that that must be the way it's supposed to be, but I've seen other screen shots (on other i777s) of this same screen and those two did add up to nearly 16GB. Can some of you check your phones to see what you have? The reason I'm concerned is about the possibility of damage to some of the internal memory caused by the eMMC bug. I was planning on returning to a stock GB rom until all of this gets resolved, but if I already have damage, I thought I would see about a replacement. Thanks for your help.
Mine is exactly the same as yours and has never been wiped and reset back to factory specs since updating to stock ICS 4.0.3 with stock kernel. Came from GB 2.3.4
Thanks for checking. I just found where I saw the Galaxy S2 that had almost 16GB. It was in a Youtube video comparing the International version S2 and S3. I would think that the memory should have been the same for the AT&T model. This S2 shows 5.44GB/11.49GB.
I just realized my mistake. I was thinking that this was showing 5.44GB used and 11.49GB free. It must mean 5.44GB used out of a total of 11.49GB.
Thanks again for checking.
My guess would be something similar to computers, you may be rated at 250g, but after you've installed your OS out shows you only having 243g free. It doesn't show the other available storage because it's (should be anyhow) a separate, hidden, partition you only see when you need to do a reformat out anything of the like.
[EDIT]... Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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On that, I'm sure you are correct. the 11.36GB is probably what is left out of 16GB after all of the operating system is installed.
The problem was my interpretation of what the numbers indicated. I mistakenly thought that the first number was the amount used (which is is) and the second number was the amount free (which it is not). The second number was the total, which also included the amount already being used.
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so just read up on swap and had a couple more questions. i understand that it changes the way your phone handles the ram different apps use but still not understanding the specifics. if someone could clear that up it would be wonderful also will this affect battery life at all? and last question will this work on the kernel that comes with das bamf remix 1.6.3? ( i think my phone info says dirty by adrynalyne #1 ) or do i need to use the one suggested in the instructions --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106420 here?
It turns a set amount of your sd card memory into ram essentially, and the less frequently accessed files are written to the sdcard swap partition instead of the ram, essentially freeing up the ram for the more frequently read and written data. I didnt notice any effect on battery life, and i guess the only way it would...was if it drew more power to write to sd...i believe you need to use a kernel with swap enabled like the one by imoseyon
Thanks a ton! that perfectly answered my question as for the kernel i figured as much. does anyone know if the kernel i mentioned supports swap?
Swap is created on internal space, the emmc not the SD card.
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Pretty sure I read from Adrynalyne that his kernels all had swap enabled even though he doesn't believe it works.
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For windows users, swap is like your page file (just better managed). I see very little ever use swap on android though.
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Swap is created on internal space, the emmc not the SD card.
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First off love your signature and after reading some more it is definitely on emmc. which is fine cuz the thunderbolt has like what 16gb of it?
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First off love your signature and after reading some more it is definitely on emmc. which is fine cuz the thunderbolt has like what 16gb of it?
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There are also whispers going about that doing this "could" stress the emmc too much and cause your phone to an hero itself. The emmc is also possibly the leading culprit in the GB reboot of doom. Too lazy to point to source but seen this about the forums.
Truthfully I don't understand why people are putting their phones through this. EMMC is limited to how many times you can write to it. Just like a SSD drive. The first thing people do with SSD's is to either disable the swap file (page file) or move it to another drive. Putting a swap file on your EMMC is just killing the life of your EMMC even sooner. People say that you'll never kill your EMMC chip within the lifetime of your phone. But the fact is, no one knows how many writes your EMMC chip will take before degradation occurs. It's all up to the user though. Just wish people would do some research and fully understand the technology within their phones.
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Truthfully I don't understand why people are putting their phones through this. EMMC is limited to how many times you can write to it. Just like a SSD drive. The first thing people do with SSD's is to either disable the swap file (page file) or move it to another drive. Putting a swap file on your EMMC is just killing the life of your EMMC even sooner. People say that you'll never kill your EMMC chip within the lifetime of your phone. But the fact is, no one knows how many writes your EMMC chip will take before degradation occurs. It's all up to the user though. Just wish people would do some research and fully understand the technology within their phones.
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+1....Adreylane himself declared that he would not create swap on the EEMC. If he does not recommend it, I am not doing it.
I would like to, however, figure how people have so much RAM remaining on their phones safely. I only get about 120/600 free 98% of the times without having to constantly close out tasks. People in the dev forum are reporting they have had 300-400 free on Froyo. We all know GB takes more but I am on Froyo still and only have seen my aforementioned numbers.
id heard of some problems on emmc but didnt realize it was such a big deal. thanks for clearing that up before i tried it out. and im having the same issue im only getting between 100-200 free mb of ram without a task killer. is there something were doing wrong?
Bought my i9100 second hand and it looks like the previous owner changed the partition sizes. I have 2 partitions on the internal storage (1.97GB and 11.5GB) and I am hoping that someone could tell me what the usual configuration these phones are in. Screenshot is below to demonstrate what I mean.
http://i.imgur.com/9xJ0RGY.png
Haven't been concerned about it previously as it never caused any problems with ROM's but I'm having some major issues with CM at the moment so I want to get it as close back to stock as possible. CWM is loaded and installing ROM's fine (have been running various distro's for the last 6 months) and I have Odin as well.
Don't worry about it, android takes some SD space in order to do it's thing.
You can enjoy those 11.5 + 32 from an external SD.
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Cheers for the prompt response! So having 2 system partitions like that is the norm?
Yeap, one for system and one for you to store s#!t.
The same goes for RAM.
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Well, the partition structure of the Nexus devices (/data as a sub-directory of /sdcard) I like a bit more, because it's more flexible, but nevertheless with moving apps / dara to SD one can live also with the S2 partition layout.
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Cheers, at least I know that's not the cause of my problems with CM!
Hey folks. Having a real issue with this. My s3 keeps freezing at random intervals for anywhere up to 25-30 mins. Getting really annoying now and I hope someone can help me stop it from happening. Recently rooted and flashed sentinel rom on but thought was that so flashed official touchwiz back on but still happening!
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Go and search in the general forum for the freezing thread. There are a couple of things to try before applying for a warranty repair.
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Hey folks. Having a real issue with this. My s3 keeps freezing at random intervals for anywhere up to 25-30 mins. Getting really annoying now and I hope someone can help me stop it from happening. Recently rooted and flashed sentinel rom on but thought was that so flashed official touchwiz back on but still happening!
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This is most likely sectors in eMMC going bad. My advice would be to have at least 4GB free on internal SD at all times. Backup weekly to external SD. Avoid writing to internal SD as much as possible. (also be 100% certain that you have multiple EFS backups). If you are using a dual-boot kernel - try to do most of your extensive work in a ROM that you install as second (and keep 1st as emergency backup).
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This is most likely sectors in eMMC going bad. My advice would be to have at least 4GB free on internal SD at all times. Backup weekly to external SD. Avoid writing to internal SD as much as possible. (also be 100% certain that you have multiple EFS backups). If you are using a dual-boot kernel - try to do most of your extensive work in a ROM that you install as second (and keep 1st as emergency backup).
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Thanks for the advice. Is there a fix for this? My internal storage is already below 4gb and nearly everything writes to the sd card (32gb).
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Thanks for the advice. Is there a fix for this? My internal storage is already below 4gb and nearly everything writes to the sd card (32gb).
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I doubt - that aging is "normal" with any flash memory (but much less likely with high-end SLC vs low-cost MLC; I am also EXTREMELY curious if the same problems are seen on the 32GB or 64GB versions of the phone - but that could just apparent be since on those you will always have huge amounts of free flash). It was extra-bad with the buggy SDS firmware in the eMMC, but once you do have enough free space the huge lag when multiple-sector relocation takes place becomes far, far less obvious. There are mentions of some tools to improve things but I doubt that anything can do miracles. If the phone is still under warranty from a serious vendor and it dies you will most likely get a replacement.
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I doubt - that aging is "normal" with any flash memory (but much less likely with high-end SLC vs low-cost MLC; I am also EXTREMELY curious if the same problems are seen on the 32GB or 64GB versions of the phone - but that could just apparent be since on those you will always have huge amounts of free flash). It was extra-bad with the buggy SDS firmware in the eMMC, but once you do have enough free space the huge lag when multiple-sector relocation takes place becomes far, far less obvious. There are mentions of some tools to improve things but I doubt that anything can do miracles. If the phone is still under warranty from a serious vendor and it dies you will most likely get a replacement.
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Its on warrenty until mid sept. I might just clear the binary count and bring it to the o2 store to send off.
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Its on warrenty until mid sept.
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Why? Is it a refurb? EU has 2 years warranty, so April-May 2014 should be when the first non-refurb units start losing warranty
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Why? Is it a refurb? EU has 2 years warranty, so April-May 2014 should be when the first non-refurb units start losing warranty
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Not a refurb. I thought was a one year warranty. Will have to bring it in to them once I reset the binary count
UK SOGA warranty from the vendor usually one year. Samsung offer a 24 month limited warranty on top of that .
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A little while ago, I'm not really sure when but my Wifi stopped working. If I tried to enable it, it would just grey out and look like it was enabling but eventually just returned to not on. I've tried flashing new kernals, new roms, new modems, and currently sitting on stock 2.3.4. I've factory reset, (without wiping sdcard data) on stock. Tried to see if there was an update (saw a post that had said if you update to 2.3.6 over the air it will fix wifi, however no such update exists) I've searched and searched and searched and I cannot seem to find any information regarding whats wrong or how to fix this.
Any input would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
It may be hardware failure. The normal test for hardware/firmware issues is to flash back to stock. You have tried everything that I would suggest for such an issue, except perhaps flashing the latest stock. However, wifi works on all stock versions, so... your troubleshooting steps point to likely hardware failure.
Actually, there is one more step I can suggest. Install a custom kernel, and re-format everything, including USB memory (internal sd card- be sure to back up anything you don't want to lose) and remove any external card. Mr-cook has some scripts that can make the process easier. This is a little more thorough than just erasing the data from the partitions. Then install the stock firmware, preferably the latest stock UCMD8.
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It may be hardware failure. The normal test for hardware/firmware issues is to flash back to stock. You have tried everything that I would suggest for such an issue, except perhaps flashing the latest stock. However, wifi works on all stock versions, so... your troubleshooting steps point to likely hardware failure.
Actually, there is one more step I can suggest. Install a custom kernel, and re-format everything, including USB memory (internal sd card- be sure to back up anything you don't want to lose) and remove any external card. Mr-cook has some scripts that can make the process easier. This is a little more thorough than just erasing the data from the partitions. Then install the stock firmware, preferably the latest stock UCMD8.
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Which of those scripts do you suggest using?
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Which of those scripts do you suggest using?
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Hopefully, you have a basic understanding of memory partitioning. It is best to understand what you are doing, and not just follow someone else's recipe. That being said, you can use the first one, cook's rom wipe, which will format the system, preload, data, and cache partitions. If you also want to format the USB memory, you will need to do that from within recovery of the custom kernel: from the "mounts and storage" option, select "format /sdcard".
For installing the stock firmware, Odin3 v1.85 is recommended. Download the file from the Download Repository, extract the .tar.md5 file, and put that in the pda slot.
I actually have narrowed it down to a hardware issue, apparently I have the battery leaking issue. I've removed the corroded battery, and cleaned up the area which was effected. The phone still operates, however I still do not have Wifi. Is there something I can do to further fix the issue? I am missing a few tiny resistors in that area could they missing be the issue? I heard they just filtered the signal or something along those lines. What can I check or do before finally just needing a new mainboard.
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I actually have narrowed it down to a hardware issue, apparently I have the battery leaking issue. I've removed the corroded battery, and cleaned up the area which was effected. The phone still operates, however I still do not have Wifi. Is there something I can do to further fix the issue? I am missing a few tiny resistors in that area could they missing be the issue? I heard they just filtered the signal or something along those lines. What can I check or do before finally just needing a new mainboard.
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I bought a phone cheap from the Swappa boneyard with a good screen but with the wifi not working to go with another phone I acquired which had a cracked screen but fully working main board. I combined the two into a fully working phone, and a phone with cracked screen and no wifi. The second phone sat in a box for a long time. Not too long ago, I read about the battery leaking issue, so I pulled that second phone apart and looked at the main board. Sure enough, the battery and the area around it was corroded. The phone was fully functioning except for the wifi.
I didn't play with it too much, but it looked to me like the battery was soldered onto the main board. Did you have to de-solder it to get it off? I believe that the battery is necessary for the wifi to work. I build electronics, but not on the miniature scale of a phone pcb. I have a professional soldering station, but I wouldn't attempt to work on a board like that myself. Unless you have the right equipment, and the experience to go with it...
I think you would need to replace the main board. You could try buying a phone with a broken screen that is otherwise working. It might be fairly cheap. But the I777 is getting old enough that it will be experiencing various kinds of failure, so it is a crap shoot.
I gave my original I777 to my wife, and bought one for myself on swappa over a year ago. The one I bought just went dark one day a few months ago. I don't know what part failed, but it was completely non-responsive, a true brick. My son had an I777 also, and he had cracked the screen, so I bought him an S4 for Christmas. I got his i777 and combined the main board with the good screen from my dead phone, to make a fully functioning phone. After setting that phone up and using it for a couple of weeks, one day the power switch failed. I'm still using that phone as my main phone, with gravity screen to overcome the failed power button, since I don't want to spend another $40 on it to get the power button replaced. The point of relating this is just to show how likely failures are.
Actually I just pulled it off, and cleaned the area. I've been reading that its suppose to keep the date and time, and I've also read that people don't actually know what its for. However I do know that since i pulled it my phone seems to heat up less. (It was getting rather hot) However wifi still does not work.
I'm rather a noob with Android and could use some help as I've only had my Verizon Galaxy S4 64GB since February. I'll try and provide as much information as I can so that I can get the proper help.
The problem I am having is that my internal memory is not calculating correctly. Instead of saying 64GB (minus GB for stock ROM size) it calculates to 32.00GB evenly. The phone was previously rooted via this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I am not sure what I might have done to cause the incorrect storage amount so I'll mention some steps I took that could have been the underlying culprit to the problem.
While my phone was rooted I experienced problems with certain apps that were installed on the phone not being able to update due to the "insufficient storage" error. When this happened I would uninstall the app and re-install it which sometimes worked and other times the storage error continued and I would reinstall the app and all of its data via Titanium Backup.
After getting sick and tired with the "insufficient storage" error I tried clearing the cache for these apps both in application manager and also wiping the cache partition in recovery mode. When that didn't work I tried using the "wipe data/factory reset" option thinking that I could just re-install all my apps fresh and clean,...hopefully without the "insufficient storage" error.
In hindsight, that may not have been the best way to solve the problem. It was after doing all these steps that I first noticed my internal memory now read 32.00GB instead of a higher amount closer to 64GB.
Searching the web and these forums yielded no results to solving the problem,...only a few threads about SD card sizes not calculating correctly. (In case it matters, my SD card's total space is calculating correctly at 7.40GB available on a 8GB card.)
Then the KitKat update from Verizon came out and I decided to install it in hopes of it fixing the problem. In order to upgrade from Android 4.3 to Android 4.4.2 I had to unroot the phone because the upgrade wouldn't work on the phone when rooted. I unrooted using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
I had trouble doing the No-Wipe method (2 failed attempts) and had to use the Full Wipe method. My SCH-I545 runs on VRUEMK2 and I was very careful in choosing the correct files (well, as certain as I can be). It successfully unrooted. However, the Full Wipe method did not help fix the internal memory problem once the phone was restored to its stock setting.
I installed Android 4.4.2 successfully but, again, the internal memory is not showing the right amount.
So,...can any of you wise and benevolent gurus help or have any ideas? It would be much appreciated.
My phone reads as follows:
Baseband version: I545VRUFNC5 (I noticed this is not VRUEMK2 as before. Is this due to the KitKat upgrade?)
Kernel version: 3.4.0
Build Number: KOT49H.I545VRUFNC5
Thanks in advance for your help. Let me know if you need any more information I might have missed.
I never heard of a 64 gb s4
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I never heard of a 64 gb s4
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Hi, decaturbob! I purchased the 64GB through my local Verizon Wireless store. They had to send away for it but they did have it. I don't know if it is something that is newly offered or by request but I did buy it quite recently (middle of February, 2014). I promise that the Total Space did read higher than 32.00GB before (and, yes, I know the difference between the internal memory and the SD card memory, in case anyone wonders). I just want to recover that space since I paid extra for it.
Decaturbob is right. There is no version on Verizon that has 64Gb of storage. They only have 16 and 32. My guess is that You have a 32gb s4 and an extra sd card installed which caused you to think you had higher than 32gb internal storage.
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Decaturbob is right. There is no version on Verizon that has 64GB of storage. They only have 16 and 32. My guess is that You have a 32GB S4 and an extra SD card installed which caused you to think you had higher than 32GB internal storage.
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OK, I am not saying that isn't possible because I want to be open to all possibilities (including the notion that I really don't know what the hell I am talking about).
But if what you say is true, then why do I not see this extra SD card slot in the Storage menu? (My SD card currently reads 7.40GB available which is correct.) And why was my Total Space showing more than 32GB when I first bought the phone? Perhaps this hypothetical extra SD card was linked to the internal memory so they showed up as 64GB combined? If so, then I want that back! I can always go back to the guy who sold it to me, I guess, and see about replacing it,...although it WAS rooted and that may pose a problem even after I returned to the stock ROM, unrooted.
Or, let's put it this way,...if this was a 32GB phone that incorrectly calculated only 16GB of internal memory what would you advise that person to do?
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OK, I am not saying that isn't possible because I want to be open to all possibilities (including the notion that I really don't know what the hell I am talking about).
But if what you say is true, then why do I not see this extra SD card slot in the Storage menu? (My SD card currently reads 7.40GB available which is correct.) And why was my Total Space showing more than 32GB when I first bought the phone? Perhaps this hypothetical extra SD card was linked to the internal memory so they showed up as 64GB combined? If so, then I want that back! I can always go back to the guy who sold it to me, I guess, and see about replacing it,...although it WAS rooted and that may pose a problem even after I returned to the stock ROM, unrooted.
Or, let's put it this way,...if this was a 32GB phone that incorrectly calculated only 16GB of internal memory what would you advise that person to do?
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install diskusage, it will show you where files are on internal sd card as well as your extsd card
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install diskusage, it will show you where files are on internal sd card as well as your extsd card
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Thanks, decaturbob. I installed diskusage and it showed 24747MiB for Storage Card and 7577MiB for /storage/extSdCard. No other cards were detected (as I didn't think there would be). Well, I am willing to accept that my phone is really a 32GB phone and not a 64GB as I have believed since purchase. Only one thing bothers me,...why did it read over 32GB when I first purchased the phone? Seriously, that was the first thing I checked when I got the phone was the storage capacity because that is what I wanted - 64GB. It makes no sense. And I don't do drugs. Really! I was very explicit about what I wanted with the Verizon rep and I paid an extra $200 over the 32GB model for it as I understood at the time. I just don't get it. I plan on taking it to Verizon after work and finding out exactly what the hell I payed for and received.
Thanks anyways to those of you willing to help. If anything you either got a good laugh out of this or, like me, will wake up screaming in the night over it. I suspect the first is more likely with you guys. :laugh:
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Thanks, decaturbob. I installed diskusage and it showed 24747MiB for Storage Card and 7577MiB for /storage/extSdCard. No other cards were detected (as I didn't think there would be). Well, I am willing to accept that my phone is really a 32GB phone and not a 64GB as I have believed since purchase. Only one thing bothers me,...why did it read over 32GB when I first purchased the phone? Seriously, that was the first thing I checked when I got the phone was the storage capacity because that is what I wanted - 64GB. It makes no sense. And I don't do drugs. Really! I was very explicit about what I wanted with the Verizon rep and I paid an extra $200 over the 32GB model for it as I understood at the time. I just don't get it. I plan on taking it to Verizon after work and finding out exactly what the hell I payed for and received.
Thanks anyways to those of you willing to help. If anything you either got a good laugh out of this or, like me, will wake up screaming in the night over it. I suspect the first is more likely with you guys. :laugh:
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Take a look at your receipt...The 32gb s4 was a bunch more
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Not sure if this will work, but from an adb shell, do "su", then "cat /proc/partitions" and see what size mmcblk0 is reported to be. On my 16GB unit, it's 15388672 (1024 byte blocks = a bit less than 16 GB).
There's a VERY remote possibility that you flashed a 32 GB partition table (PIT) onto your phone, causing it to lose half the storage.
Why I say "very" is because Verizon never sold a 64 GB SCH-i545 to my knowledge, just 16 and 32 GB models.
And I think you would have remembered using ODIN to flash a new PIT file. Rooting alone didn't do this.
Any way that you could check the serial number to find out if it was a 64Gb?
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@matteber
Have you looked on your receipt or the side of the box the phone came in? It should say either 16 or 32
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@matteber
Have you looked on your receipt or the side of the box the phone came in? It should say either 16 or 32
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I took the phone back to Verizon Wireless. It is a 32GB phone according to the serial number. They said that they keep stock of both 16 and 32GB phones and that the sales rep who took three days and supposedly ordered the 64GB model for me was fired a few weeks back for rooting (or offering to root) customer phones on the side. I don't really know what is up with the whole thing but they did give me $300+ back that I was apparently overcharged. Whatever. I'll just buy a 32 or 64GB SD Card for the extra memory I wanted. Not the way I wanted to do it but,...oh well.
Thanks to all who gave ideas, suggestions and other input.
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I took the phone back to Verizon Wireless. It is a 32GB phone according to the serial number. They said that they keep stock of both 16 and 32GB phones and that the sales rep who took three days and supposedly ordered the 64GB model for me was fired a few weeks back for rooting (or offering to root) customer phones on the side. I don't really know what is up with the whole thing but they did give me $300+ back that I was apparently overcharged. Whatever. I'll just buy a 32 or 64GB SD Card for the extra memory I wanted. Not the way I wanted to do it but,...oh well.
Thanks to all who gave ideas, suggestions and other input.
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Wow huh what a shady deal that all turned out to be. That's great you got money back though. I use both a Transcend and SanDisk 64g cards in both S4's I have. Both cards have treated me very well. Got them in Amazon for cheap too
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