Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
If you realy want to delete touch wiz, you'll have to root your phone otherwise you can't get rid of touch wiz, however you can run a different launcher and having touch wiz on your phone.
Hi Viletung. In WebOS, it takes me about 30 seconds to root the phone.
Yet that retains all the phone settings unchanged, while allowing me to install packages, manipulate data, etc. Is it the same thing with SGS2?
I guess my question is: is it recommended to root the phone? I'm curious if most of Android users root their phone. I know I rooted my Palm Pre/Pre2 phones 5min after I got them. I read on the Internet that certain ROM's are built on stock Gingerbread (without TouchWiz), allowing the phone to save on battery and run much smoother with less used resources. Obviously, if you install a new ROM it will void the warranty.
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
Hello!
I've installed Lite'ning rom 1.5, which has root access. And to flash it takes about one minute!
When I got this phone, I knew it was possible to root my phone, but I was scared that I would screw something up and break the device.
Now, it's about one month after I got this phone and I must say after rooting the device, deleting some standard Samsung **** (Social Hubs etc..), my SGSII isn't draining battery as it used to do before I deleted some stuff. (Including TouchWiz)
But I have also a JIG, to reset the custom kernel counter, just incase I need my warranty back.
So my final conclusion is; I can't life without root! I like to edit the system icons (battery-, wifi icon and much more).
If you have any questions, I'll try to help you
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
Most dont root but most are not on XDA and dont know anything bar stock . I would guess most XDA users root .
I'm at a point where I'm learning the basics, so any advice is appreciated.
To a certain extent its been a learning curve for the devs as SGS 2 is different to SGS1 .Expect even more development as the days go by .
jje
Thanks a lot guys for the info.
prodygee said:
Rooting, yes do it. It's easy, does no harm, and opens up neat options.
Just get Villainrom which is updated to version 2.0. It's built on android 2.3.4, fixing the 2.3.3 battery drain bug (which occured on all phones running 2.3.3).
If you want your stock gingerbread experience, there is a rom out there which tries to replicate this, but I recommend using a 'better' rom with a custom launcher mimicking Gingerbread. Since there's not a lot of difference than just a different launcher (home-menu).
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Thanks for the info. I want to have the latest version of Android, I don't really care about Gingerbread. How do updates work on Android (i.e. updating to Ice Cream Sandwich eventually)? On WebOS, updates are done automatically from your carrier or Palm/HP (if you had an unlocked phone like myself). Even if I rooted my phone, I would be able to update the phone firmware with a simple download and retain the rooted aspect of the phone.
About rooting, what did you used? I'm looking at Odin and SuperOneClick... is there something better/safer? One more time, thank you.
Official updates via Kies over PC only .
Rooting is usually lost on update .
Rooting via Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
jje
yqed said:
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock.
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Why don't you use it for a least a few seconds before ditching it, there's no aosp gingerbread anyway so you're stuck with it until cm7 comes along.
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
yqed said:
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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That's correct, and is one of the main reasons people root their Androids so that when a new version comes out we can download it straight away and don't have to wait for the carrier to officially release it, which usually takes a lot longer than it does for the devs here to put something together. E.g. there are a few ROMs already in the dev forum based on 2.3.4, but there is not yet any official update.
Thanks guys much appreciated. I will probably have more questions, once I have the phone on hand.
yqed said:
I want to root the phone and replace the ROM mainly because I heard that TouchWiz is running on top of current OS. I could disable TouchWiz, indeed. The issue is: I do not know how upgrades are performed into phone. From the above posts, I have to do it myself is not an automated download/install like WebOS does it.
So, if a new Android version is released, I have to download it myself? For example, my phone comes with 2.3.3 installed but 2.3.4 is released already. Will my phone ask me to download the latest version automatically upon release? I presume not, I have to download and install it myself. Using logic, that is done by either installing a ROM or getting the upgrade from mobile provider.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android phones get new updates over the air when available, just like web os. Only Samsung does their own thing which is different on the sgs2 than on normal android devices. .
Which is, providing updates through an unnecessary software suite called KIES. You won't see an update available message on your phone.
yqed said:
Hi guys,
I plan to buy on June 14th the Galaxy S2 on Bell Canada network, it will replace my Pre2.
I was wondering if you can recommend me a specific ROM that will get rid of TouchWiz and allow me to run Gingerbread stock. I'm not familiar at all with Android, as I never use it before. That is the main reason why I rather ask the question here instead of searching, as I would not know what to search for.
A little about myself: I'm a Linux head (Redhat advanced + Ubuntu).
Thank you for your your help.
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Just install a launcher fromthe Android Store. There's plenty of good ones like LauncherPro, GX Launcher, 7 launcher. Their all relatively good and fully functional.
OK, I got the phone (16GB model) today from FutureShop and played with it a bit. It is a great phone indeed...
Phone Info (might be useful for devs)
Network: Bell Canada
Model: GT-I9100M
Android Version: 2.3.3
Baseband Version: I9100MUGKG2
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-I9100MUGKG2-CL371789 [email protected] #2
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.UGKG2
Now, on with the usual:
Bell bundled the phone with several crap apps like Self Serve, TeleNav GPS (how stupid is that on an Android), Remote PVR, etc.
I will follow your advice and use the phone for now as is, without any fancy stuff done to it (like a new ROM). I would like to get rid of the Bell proprietary apps (physical delete), let me know if is possible. I guess if the phone is rooted it should be easy, the trick is to know how to delete the apps from the phone.
Another question: How do I install the Samsung drivers, without installing the blotted KIES?
I looked for a clean package with SGS2 drivers only but I could not find anything... All I want is to go to Device Manager and point a directory.
I must admit that Android is a totally new experience, coming from WebOS. I'm pretty much lost, heh. I know I sound like a noob, so please forgive me if I ask some simple questions that I can get the answer with a search or just by reading the phone instructions (haven't had the time to read the documentation).
I'm thinking of buying a tab but don't like that samsung has "branded" the OS now with touchwiz, is it possible to android, without samsung stuff, so as to get the updates ota when they're released? For example 3.2 is released but haven't made it to galaxy 10.1 yet?
Does one need to root the tablet to do this?
Are there any nice how-tos?
Buying a tablet or waiting for google to release their own depends on if this is possible.
Thanks for any help!
Dashu2 said:
I'm thinking of buying a tab but don't like that samsung has "branded" the OS now with touchwiz, is it possible to android, without samsung stuff, so as to get the updates ota when they're released? For example 3.2 is released but haven't made it to galaxy 10.1 yet?
Does one need to root the tablet to do this?
Are there any nice how-tos?
Buying a tablet or waiting for google to release their own depends on if this is possible.
Thanks for any help!
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Yes you have to root to get 3.2 honeycomb. Right now some developers are developing vanilla 3.2 ROM for Gtab 10.1. And each time an update is released for honeycomb we have to wait for the developers to update their ROM, so that we can flash the ROM.
Another thing is that honey comb wont be seeing much updates as IceCream sandwich is just about to be released.
If you want to get updates directly from Google then you have to buy a Google Experience Device. but right now there is no pure google experience tablet (AFAIK).
I think I'm looking for the same thing, I want a 10.1 tab but without the Touchwiz mods..
But just to confirm that I understand you correctly, If I purchase one of these tablets it would be possible to de-brand it and remove the Samsung bloatware/Touchwiz stuff and thus run the basic stock Android by using one of the ROMS posted throughout the forums, which I'm assuming is limited to 3.1 as you say 3.2 is in development, not that version makes any difference to myself.
dc10555 said:
I think I'm looking for the same thing, I want a 10.1 tab but without the Touchwiz mods..
But just to confirm that I understand you correctly, If I purchase one of these tablets it would be possible to de-brand it and remove the Samsung bloatware/Touchwiz stuff and thus run the basic stock Android by using one of the ROMS posted throughout the forums, which I'm assuming is limited to 3.1 as you say 3.2 is in development, not that version makes any difference to myself.
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Yes. You can install any non-touchwiz ROM in the dev section(Blazer is the only one i guess) or use the 3.1 stock ROM
Im a student and im planing on using my tab for classes (taking notes, etc). I found this really good app https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad but it says that galaxy 10.1 owners must root their device to install (touchscreen tune) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vital&hl=en
I really need this app, but i don't know if once rooted I'll be able to update to ice cream sandwich or any other future updates. Can anyone tell me if I'll be able to update?? Any help will be great!
realmadrid1013 said:
Im a student and im planing on using my tab for classes (taking notes, etc). I found this really good app https://market.android.com/details?id=com.writepad but it says that galaxy 10.1 owners must root their device to install (touchscreen tune) https://market.android.com/details?id=com.vital&hl=en
I really need this app, but i don't know if once rooted I'll be able to update to ice cream sandwich or any other future updates. Can anyone tell me if I'll be able to update?? Any help will be great!
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If you root you will not get the OTA updates. CM9 will be out for rooted tabs way before the OTA update (not to mention that it will probably be vastly superior), so you'll get ICS, just not from Samsung...
I was able to update from 3.1 to 3.2 via Kies' after rooting. I just lost root, had to reroot... Though, honestly, I cannot fathom a reason to take an update loaded with tons of bloat when there are 100% better roms available here to flash in - and painlessley I might add.
Thanks for the answers, do you know if a rom for ics is abailable? and do uknow of any good roms?
realmadrid1013 said:
Thanks for the answers, do you know if a rom for ics is abailable? and do uknow of any good roms?
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No stable ICS ROMS yet - keep an eye in the Development section below for updates.
You have to match the ROM with your device. I have a wifi only Tab, so I use Galaxy Task V10.
there are ics roms....just have some bugs...
take a look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425631
I really think about it a lot, but i cant find an answer.
Is it possible to Port an Android 2.2 ROM to a Device that was delivered with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
Please don´t ask why anybody would do that, because i have no idea
Possible? Sure. But if you cannot see a reason for doing so, why even suggest it? And seeing as actually porting a ROM is a LOT more effort than posting on a forum, no one will do such a thing, as it is completely pointless. If the device can run 2.3, run 2.3.
Maybe some Retro Fan would like it
If the device was shipped with 2.3, it probably has sufficient resources to run it. On older phones I can see why you'd install an older version.
But sure, everything is possible (ICS on dream).
I think Froyo on e.g Galaxy s Plus would be awesome.
Gonna try it
Sad that i dont have much experience :/
I have Spice MI 280 with 2.3.4 pre-installed.
I want to update my device to a higher version, maybe 2.3.7 which will be compatible for my device.
Please help! I am new to all this and bought a cheap phone only to learn these things. Besides, its my first Android phone and one month old. I have rooted it.
Please help me update it to a version that will be stable for my device.
650 mHz processor
150 mb RAM
sorry, i think, there is no update for your phone.
Not official Updates
Ironic138 said:
sorry, i think, there is no update for your phone.
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Hey Ironic138! I know there aint any official update from the manufacturer.
I was wondering if there is any way to update my OS to the Google Android ver 2.3.x
Not for any specific manufacturer. Just the one that Google provides as Spice didn't launch any updates for ANY of its device...
Thanks!
Sorry, but i dont get the point. Do you mean a custom rom?
Exactly! That's the term!
Ironic138 said:
Sorry, but i dont get the point. Do you mean a custom rom?
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I know there is no official update but i still want to update the phone.Any chance?
Why do you need the update? Whats wrong with 2.3.4?
I think, you have to talk to the user rjunraj, he is also searching for a way to update his phone!
CynogenMod?
Pr4bhas said:
I know there is no official update but i still want to update the phone.Any chance?
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In few forums I saw that CynogenMOD works for most devices but then how do I know it will work for me? Whether it will be stable or not.
I know these must be Noob questions for the pro so guys please save the harsh comments. I am looking fwd to learn how on this "now-feeling-crap" phone
First of all you need the CWM Recovery. Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26406717
Thats all what i can do for you!
Well your phone can defienetly not get ICS, and I don't think there is any differense between 2.3.X versions, the only thing would be if you could find a good CyanogenMod 7 custom ROM.
Thats the point, the phone has less ram and the CPU is not fast enough for ICS.
I don't really the problem with 2.3.4?!