CyanogenMod no longer delivers support for devices with snapdragons 1 - Galaxy Ace S5830 General

Hey guys!
Yesterday I read an article about "CyanogenMod no longer delivers support for devices with snapdragons 1"
And as our device is a "cooper one", it seems we are not gonna make it..
Source 1: "CyanogenMod ya no entregará soporte para equipos con Snapdragon S1" - bitly.com/MCS7bU
Source 2: "CyanogenMod formally confirms ceased support for Snapdragon S1 devices past Gingerbread" - bitly.com/MCSGT5
And here is the official post of Cyanogenmod's Team (from Google+):
CyanogenMod 01/08/2012
CM 9+, N1 (and other S1 SoC)
The Nexus One, along with the other first generation Snapdragon devices (devices with the QSD8x50, MSM7x25, MSM7x27 and MSM7x27T SoCs), will not be supported beyond the CM 7.x (Gingerbread) branch.
We’ve been holding off on finalizing this, looking for ways that we could make this work and be happy with the release. Sadly, it never panned out, and we’ve decided that it’s time to stop our efforts.
The Nexus One in particular would have required a custom hboot to repartition the internal memory (which itself was limited to 512 MB, like most devices of that generation) and the proprietary libs available (from 2.3) would have required compromises in the CyanogenMod code that we are not willing to make. The wide variety of MSM7x2x(T) devices, on top of these problems, also have a complete lack of media libraries that are compatible with the new APIs introduced in ICS (video decoding and encoding, specifically). The pieces just aren’t there.
Does the capability to run ICS or Jellybean exist on these devices? Yes, with enough time, effort, and hacks it can be made to work. Do we feel the experience is worth all of that? No.
To measure our releases, we use the same subjective criteria as users do: “speed”, “jank”, “butter”, but also factor in user experience (UX) and other intangibles. However, beyond this is something that we can (and do) use as a ‘pass or fail’ mechanism, the Android Compatibility Test Suite. The CTS is used by device manufacturers to ensure that their changes to Android source do not break Android API, platform and other standards. This, in turn, brings stability to the Play Store for app developers. Breaking CTS would lead to a bad and inconsistent experience for app devs, which in turn would lead to a bad experience for you guys as users. If CyanogenMod was perceived to be blatantly violating CTS, developers could eventually blacklist CyanogenMod users from using their apps (or worse, Google could blacklist CyanogenMod from the Play Store altogether). No one would win by going down that path.
If, in the future, a solution is found that passes CTS, we will revisit the topic.
For users that are adamant about trying to run ICS and beyond, options exist. We are not going to recommend other builds however, as they are more than likely breaking CTS, and therefore our quality assurance standards as well. You can find them if you look in the usual places.
-The CyanogenMod Team
Edit The list of affected devices are as follows: blade, bravo, bravoc, buzz, c660, click, cooper, desirec, e510, e720, es209ra, espresso, hero, heroc, inc, legend, liberty, morrisson, motus, one, p500, passion, robym, s5670, supersonic, tass, u8150, u8220, z71, zero
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Source: bitly.com/MCSZxf
So... What do you think ?...

Damnit...
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How bout this? That is ICS

Shadow xD said:
How bout this? That is ICS
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He means future support, that means future updates will take longer because now porting is needed to make it work.

The title is wrong.
You should say we won't get future support from Cyanogenmod.
AOSP still can be compile from source I guess.
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galaxyace152 said:
The title is wrong.
You should say we won't get future support from Cyanogenmod.
AOSP still can be compile from source I guess.
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How can I edit it ?....

EDIT>Go Advanced. Be more careful next time.

eagleeyetom said:
EDIT>Go Advanced. Be more careful next time.
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ok, understood =/..
¬¬

We never had and never will have OFFICIAL CM9+ support. UNOFFICIAL builds are what we'll have to live on..

Is this just saying that we wont have official CM9/CM10 support (which we all knew)?
Or is it saying that we will no longer get support from them for CM7?
Sent from the cracked screen of my GALAXY Ace.

tomb20 said:
Is this just saying that we wont have official CM9/CM10 support (which we all knew)?
Or is it saying that we will no longer get support from them for CM7?
Sent from the cracked screen of my GALAXY Ace.
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I think CM 7.2 cooper is the last rom they do for Gingerbread.....
I mean... No more Official Roms for Galaxy Ace

JuampyXnaker said:
I think CM 7.2 cooper is the last rom they do for Gingerbread.....
I mean... No more Official Roms for Galaxy Ace
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We will get GB roms.
We just won't get official CM9/10 and support from them for the above.
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Yup.. CM7.x is after which the support ends.

Cm7.3 ?
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CoolCatGetHome said:
Cm7.3 ?
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They've moved on from CM7, lol

King ACE said:
They've moved on from CM7, lol
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Nope they are further developing cm7 for the devices wich dont get official cm9/cm10 support
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CoolCatGetHome said:
Nope they are further developing cm7 for the devices wich dont get official cm9/cm10 support
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That will be awesome as Gingerbread is best for the Ace.
ICS slows it down like hell!

galaxyace152 said:
That will be awesome as Gingerbread is best for the Ace.
ICS slows it down like hell!
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agree, ICS+ was made for better devices than the ace.
Gingerbread works better for the ace.

tomb20 said:
Gingerbread works better for the ace.
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and aosp GB works hell smoother.. even at this moment cm7 lags in front of aosp :silly::laugh:
cm7 may not see cm7.3 but it is alive for patches to existing system not further features

madman said:
and aosp GB works hell smoother.. even at this moment cm7 lags in front of aosp :silly::laugh:
cm7 may not see cm7.3 but it is alive for patches to existing system not further features
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Yeah! I saw the quadrant for AOSP in Ace! It was some 2100 or something!

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[WIP/ROM/DEV/UNOFFICIAL] Android 4.0 (Ice cream sandwich) AOSP Porting (.32)

Hi there guys,
I just read about Android 4.0,released today. As I promised from june,I wil try to port it to you guys (even because I'm not working at any project now).
The first alpha will be available in few days (if all goes well),maybe one week. I already got the SDK dump,so i could try to make it boot,but I prefer using sources. BTW,when CyanogenMod 9 will be released(CM8 is some crappy Honeycomb),I'll make CM9 port.
EDIT: I can't make the SDK boot. Libs are built from ARMv7,but we're ARMv6. So wait for sources to be released.
SOME INFOS:
ROM will be based on .32 kernel tree,then I'll switch to .35
Nothing in mind now.
Current status: Planning to download sources. I need to ask some help too,because I don't know for good this AOSP stuff. Will probably ask to lupohirp
ciaox said:
Hi there guys,
I just read about Android 4.0,released today. As I promised from june,I wil try to port it to you guys (even because I'm not working at any project now.
The first alpha will be available in few days (if all goes well),maybe one week. I already got the SDK dump,so i could try to make it boot,but I prefer using sources. BTW,when CyanogenMod 8 will be released,I'll make CM8 port.
SOME INFOS:
ROM will be based on .32 kernel tree,then I'll switch to .35
Nothing in mind now.
Current status: Planning to download sources. I need to ask some help too,because I don't know for good this AOSP stuff. Will probably ask to lupohirp
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all d very best mate!!!hope u succeed in the first try itself
if you need help ciaox i'm in! i'm installing ubuntu 11.10 right now!
lupohirp said:
if you need help ciaox i'm in! i'm installing ubuntu 11.10 right now!
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I LOVE OCTOBER THIS YEAR (Ubuntu,ICS,but Steve Jobs death. Kinda sad isn't it?)
ciaox said:
I LOVE OCTOBER THIS YEAR (Ubuntu,ICS,but Steve Jobs death. Kinda sad isn't it?)
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a little of topic
it's also sad denis ritchie death is not mentioned as much as job's death
Let the ics battle begin!!!
Ding ding ding! Correction! Its CyanogenMod 9 not 8... CM8 is a corrupted Honeycomb...
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well waiting for ur rom
hope you get it before sweattaiami does
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mDroidd said:
hope you get it before sweattaiami does
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I'm thinking of reporting it,but I don't know. He/She litterally took my project.
BTW,sources out in end of october,and first days of november. So now working on making closed source rom boot,because I can't wait to see how ICS looks on LG P500. Will post a video soon,currently doing other stuff not related to this.
ciaox said:
I'm thinking of reporting it,but I don't know. He/She litterally took my project.
BTW,sources out in end of october,and first days of november. So now working on making closed source rom boot,because I can't wait to see how ICS looks on LG P500. Will post a video soon,currently doing other stuff not related to this.
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It will looks horrible becuz is too small to our screens?!
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Ah well ciaox,
just ignore SWEATTAIMI, nothing usefull came from there, just crap threads and posts, just don't understand why some noobs call him/her their hero .
Reported several times, requested to remove those useless threads, but still no reaction.
Anyway, good luck on your project
DaxElectro said:
It will looks horrible becuz is too small to our screens?!
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No it wont!! It has been made up for all devices... not just hdpi... it has compatibility with our mdpi resolution... i checked the framework in the system dump to confirm... it has mdpi support...
BTW dax, you could create a themed rom of ICS?? you have the framework now... plus a few leaked appz...
Sorry for off topic..
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Rockr172 said:
No it wont!! It has been made up for all devices... not just hdpi... it has compatibility with our mdpi resolution... i checked the framework in the system dump to confirm... it has mdpi support...
BTW dax, you could create a themed rom of ICS?? you have the framework now... plus a few leaked appz...
Sorry for off topic..
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right!!!also he has something in framework/systemUI code that can fit UI in all screen (also qvga) so we will haven't bad icons or something like that
_Arjen_ said:
Ah well ciaox,
just ignore SWEATTAIMI, nothing usefull came from there, just crap threads and posts, just don't understand why some noobs call him/her their hero .
Reported several times, requested to remove those useless threads, but still no reaction.
Anyway, good luck on your project
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Took the words outta my mouth..
Rockr172 said:
No it wont!! It has been made up for all devices... not just hdpi... it has compatibility with our mdpi resolution... i checked the framework in the system dump to confirm... it has mdpi support...
BTW dax, you could create a themed rom of ICS?? you have the framework now... plus a few leaked appz...
Sorry for off topic..
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Im planning that for gbs rom update next week...
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_Arjen_ said:
Ah well ciaox,
just ignore SWEATTAIMI, nothing usefull came from there, just crap threads and posts, just don't understand why some noobs call him/her their hero .
Reported several times, requested to remove those useless threads, but still no reaction.
Anyway, good luck on your project
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Agree, agree and agree with all this
Good luck ciaox
Enviado desde mi LG-P500
Great News!
a big project ciaox! any help or test that you will need to do, count me... i've the sdk system.img decompiled... if i can help you with something... please tell me...
DaxElectro said:
It will looks horrible becuz is too small to our screens?!
Sent from my Nexus One using MIUI 1.10.14 AND IT LOOKS LIKE ICS
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What? ICS is for tablets as well as phones. I don't see any reason for it to look bad because of a small screen size.
I've been playing around with ICS in the emulator, and I've been wondering what the advantages will be for us over Gingerbread.
The UI overhaul seems nice enough, though ICS seems to be designed for devices with no hardware menu button. In the native apps included, there is a bar at the bottom which has buttons that were normally hidden and accessed by the menu button.
This basically means we'll be losing screen space in ICS, unless this bar can be hidden for devices that do have a dedicated menu button, though I couldn't find the option in the emulator.
The ram usage is more than double that of Gingerbread (45MB vs 98MB). Luckily our O1 phones will be able to manage this fine (mine is currently using 159MB, with 243MB free) but for other phones the upgrade is going to render them useless.
The big problem is going to be the sheer size of ICS. In the Gingerbread emulator the system.img is 89MB but for ICS it is 167MB. Which is of course the bare minimum for the emulator, 'real' Android with Gapps etc is bigger. CM7.1 takes up 154MB of the 190MB /system partition on my phone. To get ICS on our O1 we'll probably have to do some partition resizing, which means a smaller /data partition for our installed apps.
adfad666 said:
I've been playing around with ICS in the emulator, and I've been wondering what the advantages will be for us over Gingerbread.
The UI overhaul seems nice enough, though ICS seems to be designed for devices with no hardware menu button. In the native apps included, there is a bar at the bottom which has buttons that were normally hidden and accessed by the menu button.
This basically means we'll be losing screen space in ICS, unless this bar can be hidden for devices that do have a dedicated menu button, though I couldn't find the option in the emulator.
The ram usage is more than double that of Gingerbread (45MB vs 98MB). Luckily our O1 phones will be able to manage this fine (mine is currently using 159MB, with 243MB free) but for other phones the upgrade is going to render them useless.
The big problem is going to be the sheer size of ICS. In the Gingerbread emulator the system.img is 89MB but for ICS it is 167MB. Which is of course the bare minimum for the emulator, 'real' Android with Gapps etc is bigger. CM7.1 takes up 154MB of the 190MB /system partition on my phone. To get ICS on our O1 we'll probably have to do some partition resizing, which means a smaller /data partition for our installed apps.
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Oh well, we'll have to wait and see how CM team is gonna handle the buttons on the screen.
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No official cyanogenmod 9 for galaxy ace.

From coolya's google+,
I am sorry to say, but I won't put any work in ICS on the Galaxy Ace. I have tried some proof of concept stuff but it isn't worth the work.
I don't say that is will be impossible but, it will be pain to get everything working, especially camera and openGL. Since there is no sign of a official release from samsung this is way to much work.
Also the the UX won't be what I will call good, the device has to less ram.
But stay tunes from nice changes to the gingerbread release for that, there will definitively be a "official" release for it.
There will still be a official gingerbeard version of cyanogenmod.
This info is already shared by SuperAce609.
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Who cares officiall or unofficiall
because of officiall news like we did it lol officiall coming to town thread grif07 stop supporting his rom and still no sign of officiall
thanks axell2033 he working now for cm unofficiall
nims11 said:
Who cares officiall or unofficiall
because of officiall news like we did it lol officiall coming to town thread grif07 stop supporting his rom and still no sign of officiall
thanks axell2033 he working now for cm unofficiall
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Do you know if he is using the armv5 cyanogen tree to build?
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link or it didn't happen.
I'll clean up his ass for him
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EmoBoiix3 said:
I'll clean up his ass for him
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There should be a like button on xda, instead of thanks.
sdotmouse said:
Do you know if he is using the armv5 cyanogen tree to build?
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Cooper has 2 ways of being built , one being Armv6-vfp , the other being Armv5te-vfp
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Am I weird??
Is it really that bad? I mean, yes, it'd be nice to have the latest android version, but not at any price (not working camera? C'mon!). I'd rather have a good and polished phone with android 2.3 than a buggy and resource-hungry 4.0.
I'm pretty much content with my phone right now, but I think there's still room for improvements: we desperately need a better battery management; we still suffer from _huge_ lags. And what about Wifi?? We deserve a reliable wireless connection (for god sake, somebody fix the wpa_supplicant already so I can connect to my University's network!! )
I know many of you won't share my opinion, but I can't be the only one who thinks this way
alexnm said:
Is it really that bad? I mean, yes, it'd be nice to have the latest android version, but not at any price (not working camera? C'mon!). I'd rather have a good and polished phone with android 2.3 than a buggy and resource-hungry 4.0.
I'm pretty much content with my phone right now, but I think there's still room for improvements: we desperately need a better battery management; we still suffer from _huge_ lags. And what about Wifi?? We deserve a reliable wireless connection (for god sake, somebody fix the wpa_supplicant already so I can connect to my University's network!! )
I know many of you won't share my opinion, but I can't be the only one who thinks this way
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Well , it's either performance or eye-candy
alexnm said:
Is it really that bad? I mean, yes, it'd be nice to have the latest android version, but not at any price (not working camera? C'mon!). I'd rather have a good and polished phone with android 2.3 than a buggy and resource-hungry 4.0.
I'm pretty much content with my phone right now, but I think there's still room for improvements: we desperately need a better battery management; we still suffer from _huge_ lags. And what about Wifi?? We deserve a reliable wireless connection (for god sake, somebody fix the wpa_supplicant already so I can connect to my University's network!! )
I know many of you won't share my opinion, but I can't be the only one who thinks this way
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I agree with every word you said(or wrote).
at least we will get an official version and that's the juice. We have to be aware that ACE is not a top performance phone and what's all that hype with ICS anyway? If we'll get an official gingerbread/cyanogenmod rom I bet all of us we'll be happy.
So any news of the official release timeline? Think is going to be after Christmas/New Year or we'll get it as a holiday present?
Speculation Threads.... Sigh
itasoulas said:
At least we will get an official version and that's the juice. We have to be aware that ACE is not a top performance phone and what's all that hype with ICS anyway? If we'll get an official gingerbread/cyanogenmod rom I bet all of us we'll be happy.
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I have to admit, but most of the ICS features wouldn't work on the Ace anyway, for example, Android Beam (No NFC on Ace), Face Unlock (No front facing camera)
However, I have heard that ICS uses less system resources, and a source at Google told me...
"Any device that runs Gingerbread is more than likely to ported over to ICS and will function just as fast"
NathanBookham said:
I have to admit, but most of the ICS features wouldn't work on the Ace anyway, for example, Android Beam (No NFC on Ace), Face Unlock (No front facing camera)
However, I have heard that ICS uses less system resources, and a source at Google told me...
"Any device that runs Gingerbread is more than likely to ported over to ICS and will function just as fast"
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Right but the truth is that samsung is not gonna do it.So it is difficult for devs.
doctorace92 said:
Right but the truth is that samsung is not gonna do it.
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Maybe samsung wont port ICS, bt d devs mite port it.
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EmoBoiix3 said:
Cooper has 2 ways of being built , one being Armv6-vfp , the other being Armv5te-vfp
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I asked because as far as I was aware support for armv6 was being dropped.
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Maybe! Cyanogenmod7.2 is coming today or tomorrow :D

Hey guys
I just noticed one thing
If you go http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable
It says "website offline ....."
This is the place you can download cyanogenmod rom for your rom
It might be they are uploading cyanogenmod 7.2.0
What do you say ?
Sorry if I was wrong ,just wanted to share what I felt
Edit : it's seems site was down for maintenance sorry for this silly thread
I do hope so. But I dont think Ace has been merged yet... has it? IDK
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Meh its not yet there >.<
Doo:DAce said:
I do hope so. But I dont think Ace has been merged yet... has it? IDK
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Ace has been added to changelog
It is coming for sure ...but when ? That no one knows
Hope so it comes fast
Ayushbhatiapro said:
Ace has been added to changelog
It is coming for sure ...but when ? That no one knows
Hope so it comes fast
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uhm
yes 3 people or more know it
the developers and creators of cm7
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spacecaker said:
uhm
yes 3 people or more know it
the developers and creators of cm7
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Ya they know it
Quite excited about this. It's getting a bit stale with the same type of themed roms at the moment. They all based on stock or Kang cm's with the same scripts just differently themed. (I'm not ungrateful for the hard work that goes into them by the way) just nice to see something new is all.
PJ147 said:
Quite excited about this. It's getting a bit stale with the same type of themed roms at the moment. They all based on stock or Kang cm's with the same scripts just differently themed. (I'm not ungrateful for the hard work that goes into them by the way) just nice to see something new is all.
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That's because we don't have much choice with scripts...Only really awesome scripts we have are Turbo boost and all the other scripts from slaid480.Also,i think pyronia released some scripts recently...If you think those are enough,then go check the forums of other devices like SGS.they have many many awesome scripts...We have some good roms but not much scripts and i am pretty happy with what we have,both Turbo boost and all of slaid's scripts are awesome...
Btw,hope we get the official version soon..
Sent from my SamsungGalaxyAce with my hands,take it or leave it
Ayushbhatiapro said:
Hey guys
I just noticed one thing
If you go http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable
It says "website offline ....."
This is the place you can download cyanogenmod rom for your rom
It might be they are uploading cyanogenmod 7.2.0
What do you say ?
Sorry if I was wrong ,just wanted to share what I felt
Edit : it's seems site was down for maintenance sorry for this silly thread
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HaHa i like ur enthusiasm but the released cm7 would come in the form of a nightly or maybe rc1, devices are added through an automated buildbot which then updates that website on the fly. If the site goes down it would more likely be for maintenance purposes. Fingers crossed though
Prawesome said:
That's because we don't have much choice with scripts...Only really awesome scripts we have are Turbo boost and all the other scripts from slaid480.Also,i think pyronia released some scripts recently...If you think those are enough,then go check the forums of other devices like SGS.they have many many awesome scripts...We have some good roms but not much scripts and i am pretty happy with what we have,both Turbo boost and all of slaid's scripts are awesome...
Btw,hope we get the official version soon..
Sent from my SamsungGalaxyAce with my hands,take it or leave it
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I fully agree, was just saying something different will be nice! The work that has gone into the ace here is fantastic. Wasn't trying to take that away from anyone.
djsky2011 said:
HaHa i like ur enthusiasm but the released cm7 would come in the form of a nightly or maybe rc1, devices are added through an automated buildbot which then updates that website on the fly. If the site goes down it would more likely be for maintenance purposes. Fingers crossed though
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According to Kolja Dummann,there will be no Nighty for cooper
he stated it somewhere in his GOOGLE plus account,
saying "there will be NO nighty for ace , due to less computing power"
There will be NO nighty for Cooper!
originally posted by Kolja Dummann (in his Google plus account )
"Kolja Dummann - +Daniel Correia the device is merged so the next official release will support cooper, but we have no nighlies cause of not enough computing power available."
link - https://plus.google.com/109560348209955703361/posts/VWHrcxx9bxn
On Cyanogenmod's official site "ACE" refers to HTC Desire HD aka HTC Ace. I don't think they will ever merge our SGA on their site now. If they wanted to they would have done it already.
Rushyang said:
On Cyanogenmod's official site "ACE" refers to HTC Desire HD aka HTC Ace. I don't think they will ever merge our SGA on their site now. If they wanted to they would have done it already.
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if cyanogenmod developer says there would be official release then whats point in your thinking so much on it?? galaxy ace is not gonna be named 'ACE' btw..
So any major difference between that coming official version and the one (unofficial) version which is available in development section ?
chuang1989 said:
So any major difference between that coming official version and the one (unofficial) version which is available in development section ?
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yes there will be some bugfixes which you should expect in official ones... no one knows .. so waiting is best option at this point of time
Rushyang said:
On Cyanogenmod's official site "ACE" refers to HTC Desire HD aka HTC Ace. I don't think they will ever merge our SGA on their site now. If they wanted to they would have done it already.
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We already know Galaxy ace codename is cooper ....
Why will they NOT merge cooper ?
What did Kolja Dummann say ?
He said "official cyanogenmod 7.2 will suppport cooper"
So did cyangenmod "offical" 7.2 release for any phone ????
No right so wait
chuang1989 said:
So any major difference between that coming official version and the one (unofficial) version which is available in development section ?
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Offical release will be always better than unofficial release
Well ,it will be more stable

Android 4.4 is here and will work well in our devices too.

Dear Devs,
Android 4.4 is out and will support our devices too. Any one to work on to support our beloved Optimus One or All developers moved to a high end device already.
Thanks,
Kiran Kumar
Ya Google said that the low end android smartphones having at least 512mb of ram can run Kitkat smoothly. It will be new birth to our beloved Lg optimus one
Waiting for our developers reaction.
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Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Here's a portion of what cyanogenmod posted on facebook..
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But... what about porting AOSP rom ?)
OMG, but one problem all developers are to lazy work with this legacy device! Sorry am bad English
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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that's not a problem.
-_-
You are like "I want that new 4.4 thingy, i don't know the new features but who cares cos it's New! Yeee ^_^ make it work make it".
Don't get me wrong but,
GB or 2.3.x was the best Android OS for our p500, well i still believe it is.
Why?
Cos there wasn't any Fc's, no post like "oh nooo camera image sh1ty", no malfunction on hardware level nor software,
Some dev, cavemen i believe was his name, fixed our multitouch problem, i don't think this fix was implemented on ics or jb since i've never found any evidence for it, test with "multitouch app" see what i mean.
The ICS is still in development, 4.2 JB has reached his final build, 4.3 has started it's dev.
With ICS we got less free ram, less free storage space but we gained better UI, kinda, and most important better system compatibility. Battery was somewhat intact.
With JB 4.2 we got the 3.0 kernel, more functionality and great battery drain but huge with wifi on. Less ram again, less space, new bugs, and the end of p500 gaming era xD.
Custom Rom numbers have fallen a lot too.
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
(i find Talho and Ginger DX best Roms, Talho as you know for gaming and Ginger as the best customized rom, so much functionality. But I'm running JB only cos gives me the BEST sound quality.)
Cheers.
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Is the new google experience launcher work? I mean does it at least work at the basic level?
please don't expect nexus 4 or nexus 5 functions shinny gimmick but if at least the basic feature of a launcher works then it is little improvement
to experience the feel of newer OS
as for the comment about perfecting 4.0 or 4.2
I am a bit in the middle with that .
because usually newer code is cleaner, thus more efficient, and who knows it maybe backward port friendly
and I think our development for 4.0 and 4.2 has reached is max because of the kernel limitation (correct me if I am wrong)
trying to port 4.4 would be an interesting hack In my opinion . a challange
and proof of concept I know software developer / programmer likes to proof their concept
they like challenge
try and get the google experience launcher here
http://phandroid.com/2013/10/31/download-and-install-the-new-google-experience-launcher/
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Guys
We got a new problem .
Google's new launcher doesn't work without google now
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Velvet will fix this
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Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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Interesting. Since I have few months only testing roms, i think that every new android version has to wait, is like mw sais, is not a race to get it first, is to wait until a well done version being released. And (in my case) can't urge the developers to get new roms if we only wait for it and don't help with the build. If you want a 4.4 version now, start studying, learning and do it for yourself. Other people have different priorities.
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But the source is not available for armv6 devices ...so we have to wait
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I think that cm will be habit late so why don't you drvs start with another ROM! Maybe simple aosp or a better one slimkat which is already out for nexus 4. I believe that slimkat will fit our phone perfectly as it is slim and needs less system storage.
Thx in advance! Devs are making a valuable effort! Hats off for them!
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another version of google launcher
this time it is XDA version
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506488
Velvet FCs for me. Problem may well be an armv7 jni once again. Those FCs make the launcher really fun.
There is a launcher3.apk around which bypasses the Google Now business.
Will 4.4 run on our devices? Really?
Two problems:
Armv6! Pre-compiled closed source stuff for armv7. Just like before.
Room on /system for various new libraries. I am trying them on sdext with symlinks. This is Linux so this should work. This is Android so who knows?
Newer gapps and components are bigger than ever. Sort of contradicts all the buzz.
I was wrong ..
Most of the people are using it as a primary phones :thumbup::thumbup:
Thats good
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Left4DeadMW said:
My point was,
Isn't better to optimize / perfect the ICS and Jb for our p500 instead of demanding new builds?
New doesn't mean better trough
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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3ncrypt3d_Droid said:
Here's an interesting article : http://www.phonearena.com/news/Andr...rtably-on-512MB-RAM-devices-heres-how_id49099
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Exactly. Project Svelte is what I was referring to. So we should see some better performance than with Jelly Bean.
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But I think that this time it will mean better. Because this version has been made to run on lower end devices, devices with less RAM and processing power. If Dev's are trying to create the perfect 4.x.x ROM for the P500: this very well might be it.
I think we'll have to wait before judging 4.4 as a just a bloated resource hog on this device. It may very well be the complete opposite.
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Perhaps.
Never said something like useless.
And getting high expect = won't get disappointed at the end.
So kitkat4.4 would have better performance then JB?
I mean, CM team spend time porting/dev JB ROM to our, well I might as say old, p500 and couldn't perfect it, greatest issues still are camera/battery/more space same storage, as android versions progress more and more storage space is taken, as well as ram usage.
And now somehow, google will make 4.4 universal build with all features from previous versions?
Google hasn't made any ICS or JB p500 specific ROM then it would take so much time.
But, making universal builds for phones-alike would be better option but builds won't be phone specific optimized.
I doubt kitkat's realization. It's a nice though but imagine the number of phones that still run on ROMs under JB.
EDIT: (source: xda and wiki)
"video playback performance issues due to missing libraries for hardware assisted decoding since ICS"
Would this be fixed? I remember now, I could never watched those Naruto downloaded ep's, video playback was like 1frame-per-sec (online streaming still fine)

[Q] Is Quincyatt (I717) Further Development Stopped/delayed/suspended ?

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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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look one thread down from yours, tell me what you see.
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Jamie you the man.
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stimur said:
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Hi everyone,
I wonder if there any plans to support ATT version of Galaxy Note ?
all recent updates are minor and I don't have any hope that CM10.2 (not even mentioning CM11) will be ported to it which is kind of sad.
I understand that there are some issues with stability and drivers. Does that mean I need to get other hardware to continue using CM ?
Due to all those problems I switched back to stock image and not happy with it, but it is damn stable ((
Thanks for any update from the team.
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so what i am reading here is you have 6 posts. i understand that you cannot post in development yet, but that does not slow you from reading.
i am not a technical brainchild and lack the ability to understand some of the terminology, so you will have to give me a little leeway.
development may have appeared to have slowed, but take into consideration the age of our device and the rate manufacturers are producing devices. we may not ever get another official upgrade for our Note, but my phone has ran better in the last few months than previous 8 months. there are some brilliant folks out there working selflessly for us. you may not find much in the straight CM development department, but since release of 10.2/ 4.3 roms, it is much more stable than 4.2 ever was. it runs smooth and effortless with none of the random reboots which plagued 4.2.
now we have quickly bumped to the 4.4 development which is still in its infancy. give it time. there are 2 Alpha/Preview releases right now, with at least another in the works that i know of. my guess is someone will have a Beta or full release by the end of the week at the rate these guys go. cant hold me to it as i am just a recipient who benefits from their deeds. that's just my guess from what i see as far as their work pace.
so excuse me now, i have to put some Kit Kat 4.4 on my phone, which has only been approval to run official 4.1.2 JB.
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
i am sure this is going to prove to be a good conversation starter here. thank you
take the tour here and ask your question again
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Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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Yes, thanks for pointing that out, I will try your builds.
I will be grumpy user, I promise
stimur said:
Thanks for your reply, captemo.
I'm sure there are brilliant people in CM team and they are doing amazing job, this is doubtless.
This is the only reason I'm trying to get back to CM world and get any word on further development.
My only source of information on the releases are:
http://10.1.cmxlog.com/?device=quincyatt
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/hudson/blob/master/cm-build-targets
http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=quincyatt&type=
and xda of course
First three show very little progress on this particular device. I'm not complaining, but just trying to understand current state of I717 support.
In comparison with I717 twin - N9000, we get less updates.
I saw 10.2 builds in XDA forum threads, but I consider them as unofficial builds, and I know nothing about them, how well they are performing, etc. I will try them for sure, thanks for pointing that out.
All my question is about is future support of this hardware, should I think about upgrade or just give up and use stock ...
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as i said take the tour, take some roms for a test drive. i don't know what you consider your experience level is........
everything runs a bit different on everybodys phone. for example, the Carbon rom has lots of cool features, but it just doesn't seem to want to work on my phone. i just don't want you to label all roms on the basis of one. Hellybean runs great on my phone. there are some here that wont give a phone or rom time to settle in. they make so many tweaks and adjustments in a rapid amount of time, they don't know if there adjustments actually did anything.
so be patient......if its not compatible for your phone, you will probably know right away. if it works, give it some time. there are good and helpful people here. just try and help yourself first and read.
getting ready to slam some Kit Kat on my phone right now with Jaime's CM11 preview 4.
As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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As cyanogenmod seems to have dropped us for 10.2, we are unlikely to see official CM11 support. Our hope for further development lies in unofficial builds from Jamie and Patch who have been kind enough to build from source and share their talents with us.
Normally, I would accept that, at some point, you have to stop beating a dead horse. It's unrealistic to expect a 2 year old device to be supported with the latest and greatest - especially in an environment like Android which seems to have such a quick cycle.
The alpha builds, however, have proven to be more stable on my device than anything 4.2 or 4.3. My question is whether or not we will see some important functionality (like TTS and video camera) restored on OUR device if it is not being supported by CM officially?
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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You say this but look at the craptivate and how much development it's getting
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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You have a good point, at least 4.4 will probably run better than any other 4.x before it
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Your just crying for some slimkat
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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Break me a piece of that slimkat! Cm is nice but slim is still slim :3
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Yeah I know
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Captivate also probably sold 50 million more devices then the i717 so there is your reasoning
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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So it would be better to get some of popular devices and use it, because "million flies can not be wrong" ?
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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More devices in hand means more users and devs, dunno why that's hard to understand
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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All 4.4 Roms right now are pretty much the same aosp 4.4, no rush on getting things rolling till things change and merge
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Personally, I'm loving the AOSP feel of 4.4 in a way that I have never really cared for it in Android versions prior. The way Google now is integrated into the GEL is how I would use Nova Launcher to setup previous versions.
With it's super stability, I am really praying that you give us something akin to your Nexus or Evervolv roms...Hell if we can just get working TTS and Video camera on top of what you've given us with your alpha, I'm done...............
.......until my next phone.
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oh, no, don't get me wrong, I do understand that.
What I'm also trying to understand what would be a better strategy to have decent device with enough attention from developers...
There should be some balance here, since advanced devices are good in performance, but expensive and not widely used.
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What are you talking about? What strategy? What balance?
Devs are also users. Almost all of the devs work on the devices that they own. We may not have the quantity of devs for other devices, but we definitely have quality devs. I also have GTab 2, and LG Optimus and Galaxy S2 LTE, which I manage for my family. Some have very active devs, some don't, but they all have good devs.
I don't know what you mean by "enough attention from developers", but we are getting plenty from our devs even if we don't deserve them. Whatever we are getting beyond the official 4.1.2 is all gravy. Jamie's CM11 preview is running awesome, and I haven't tried Patch's 4.4 rom, but I expect the same.
What more are you asking for?

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