This is my first post @ xda-develpers forum.
I just got my Samsung Galaxy S3 moving from Blackberry 9900. I would like ROM that is closest to the the orginal ICS. Overall, I dont like those bloat-ware on my phone. If on a PC, the first thing I'll do is to format the computer and reinstall Windows.
So for Samsung Galaxy S3, I am finding a lot of installed software pretty much useless. So can you guys recommend me a ROM out there that is closest to the original ICS from Nexus?
Thanks.
- Charles
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1685
jje
JJEgan said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1685
jje
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Way to be helpful.
OP:
I find VillainROM is quite close and from what I've read Revolution HD is fairly close also. You can also just use a stock ROM, as well, and use tools like Titanium to take out the crap you don't need or want and use an insecure kernel to root the device.
Kryten2k35 said:
Way to be helpful.
OP:
I find VillainROM is quite close and from what I've read Revolution HD is fairly close also. You can also just use a stock ROM, as well, and use tools like Titanium to take out the crap you don't need or want and use an insecure kernel to root the device.
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How is that in any remote way NOT helpful? it points him to the thread of AOSP development i.e. Closest to ICS.
bortak said:
How is that in any remote way NOT helpful? it points him to the thread of AOSP development i.e. Closest to ICS.
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What? No it just points him to the Development forum. It doesn't give any specific ideas or recommendations. I'm pretty sure the OP could've looked through there if they wanted to, but instead chose to ASK for advice.
Also, yeah, my advice is moot, then, cause I recommended Sammy ROM's by mistake.
Kryten2k35 said:
Way to be helpful.
OP:
I find VillainROM is quite close and from what I've read Revolution HD is fairly close also. You can also just use a stock ROM, as well, and use tools like Titanium to take out the crap you don't need or want and use an insecure kernel to root the device.
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Fairly useless answer Villain = Samsung rom Revolution = Samsung rom .
OP AOSP based roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27583422&postcount=2
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JJEgan said:
Fairly useless answer Villain = Samsung rom Revolution = Samsung rom .
OP AOSP based roms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27583422&postcount=2
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That's more like it. And yes, I caught and mentioned that
Thanks you all. This being my first time into the Android world and into xda forum, there are a lot of unfamiliar things I am learning here.
Regarding Stock ROM, I am just unfamiliar with what to remove and what not to remove. Also, I think no matter how much app you remove, its just still boatware.
REgarding the AOSP based ROM, there are 6 different types. All seems to have some major bug.
For example, the CyanogenMod9:GT-I9300 contains the following known bugs
FM Radio: currently not supported, try Spirit FM from market
TVOut: unsupported and will probably never be
Wakeing the device up using volume keys might not work because the device is sleeping to deep and doesn't recognize key presses
You must use the LFB modem to have in-voice calls
First call might not work, subsequent calls works fine then.
Bluetooth does not work well if the distance is over 1 meter to the connected Bluetooth device
Others also have some camera issues etc.
So there aren't any ROM out there that is "virtually" problem free. I don't mind small problem but camera not working, bluetooth not working seems pretty major for me.
I assume there aren't any Galaxy Nexus ICS on Samsung Galaxy S3 that is problem free???
- Charles
Slim is aosp with some choice picks from aokp and cm9, very stable, lightweight Rom
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You could also use the Jelly Bean Domination theme in my sig. It's aim is to remain Samsung but look like ICS. Also, some ROMS remove the bloat for you (like Omega) and have the option to add it back.
Why don't you try Faryaabs aokp milestone port. Its a kang project ICS rom that is very stable and haven't had problems with so far .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1716001
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Try cm9 (ics) or cm10 (jelly bean).
Guys, I just tried the ROM][AOSP][JB][4.1.1][STABLE] Android 4.1.1 JellyBean - BUILD 3 [31-07-12] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1737449 which claim to be stable and no much issue other than Memory Leaked.. I wanted to post comments there but due to my low forum post count, I can't post reply.
Apparently, there seems to be a lot of problems that I am facing. I can't have Google account to link to my Gmail account to restore all my contacts. I tried installing Google Play Store 3.7.15 but the App just can't launch as it keeps exciting itself.
I am not sure if I am doing anything wrong here....
- Charles
slaphead20 said:
Slim is aosp with some choice picks from aokp and cm9, very stable, lightweight Rom
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Just tried the Slim but I guess not my preference. Its just too simple!! Its like the world is on Windows 7 but I am going back to Windows 98 for the sake of bring slim
- Charles
Related
I had started a thread I just got the official ICS Upgrade
In that thread some had indicated that a custom ROM should
be used and not the the official ICS Upgrade from AT&T.
In an effort to not get that thread of track i will ask here:
What is the real difference with the AT&T Official ICS ROM and the Custom ROMs?
I am fully aware AT&T has loaded a bunch of junk in,
and I went through and disables and deleted much of it.
But what truly is so awful about it?
And if it truly is so bad, what is the "Correct" ROM to use?
Thank you
No such thing as correct or incorrect, it is all personal taste. Some might like one ROM over another. Does that make it better than another? Nope.
Take cars for example. Some people like to leave it stock. Some might like to increase its performance and add engine modifications. Some might like it to handle the roads better so they might upgrade its suspension. Others might like to change its appearance and paint it and add body-kits. Is one car better than the other? Depends on who you ask.
Harry_Y said:
I had started a thread I just got the official ICS Upgrade
In that thread some had indicated that a custom ROM should
be used and not the the official ICS Upgrade from AT&T.
In an effort to not get that thread of track i will ask here:
What is the real difference with the AT&T Official ICS ROM and the Custom ROMs?
I am fully aware AT&T has loaded a bunch of junk in,
and I went through and disables and deleted much of it.
But what truly is so awful about it?
And if it truly is so bad, what is the "Correct" ROM to use?
Thank you
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This thread will get real out of hand.
But before it dissapears. the main reason most of us say its bad, is with the history of At&t's releases. They mess stuff up, have issues within the kernals, and a big BIG issue with them right now that w/o source, we dont know if its fixed.
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gsrrr said:
No such thing as correct or incorrect, it is all personal taste. Some might like one ROM over another. Does that make it better than another? Nope. .
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not taste/opinion in the fact(from their history) that the coding is a mess. and broken everywhere.
You come to a developer forum to run fully stock?
That's what goes through my head when I see people afraid of flashing.
If you want the AT&T firmware at least wait for somebody to post a debloated version since your going to disable them anyways or actually learn how to do it yourself. Since you have access to the forum with so much information.
Maybe take it 1 step further and grab the AT&T firmware and customize it to your liking, you don't even have to post it just use it.
This isn't a great thread cause Versus threads go nowhere...
MotoMudder77 said:
This thread will get real out of hand.
But before it dissapears. the main reason most of us say its bad, is with the history of At&t's releases.
They mess stuff up, have issues within the kernals, and a big BIG issue with them right now that w/o source, we dont know if its fixed.
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Thank you
Harry_Y said:
I had started a thread I just got the official ICS Upgrade
In that thread some had indicated that a custom ROM should
be used and not the the official ICS Upgrade from AT&T.
In an effort to not get that thread of track i will ask here:
What is the real difference with the AT&T Official ICS ROM and the Custom ROMs?
I am fully aware AT&T has loaded a bunch of junk in,
and I went through and disables and deleted much of it.
But what truly is so awful about it?
And if it truly is so bad, what is the "Correct" ROM to use?
Thank you
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Dude. Do the math. You're posting in a development forum that strives on customizing, building, and creating custom sh$t for our devices. Why would you think that 90% of the people here are looking for and using custom roms?
gsrrr said:
No such thing as correct or incorrect, it is all personal taste.
Some might like one ROM over another. Does that make it better than another? Nope.
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I can appreciate people wanting to customize their devices.
That being said customizing just for the sake of customizing is not really
of interest to me; Increased functionality or an issue being corrected is.
So the real question for me would be what real issues with the
Stock ROM get corrected? and what Real features get added.
Thank you
task650 said:
Dude. Do the math. You're posting in a development forum that strives on customizing, building, and creating custom sh$t for our devices. Why would you think that 90% of the people here are looking for and using custom roms?
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I fully understand that, I also realize people get emotionally attached to things.
What I'm trying to learn is what is the Real advantage with the custom ROM.
Thank you
Harry_Y said:
I fully understand that, I also realize people get emotionally attached to things.
What I'm trying to learn is what is the Real advantage with the custom ROM.
Thank you
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Go to the dev section, pick a random rom thread and look at the features.
That is just an example of what is beneficial.
Harry_Y said:
I fully understand that, I also realize people get emotionally attached to things.
What I'm trying to learn is what is the Real advantage with the custom ROM.
Thank you
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There are many different things. Mods add to the functionality of the phone. Take the 14 toggle mod for instance, no need to enter settings to change common things. Skip tracks with volume buttons. You can also increase battery life with various kernels by UV/uc. It allows you to make your phone function and do what you want it to. The stock firmware is too limiting in this ability
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Harry_Y said:
I can appreciate people wanting to customize their devices.
That being said customizing just for the sake of customizing is not really
of interest to me; Increased functionality or an issue being corrected is.
So the real question for me would be what real issues with the
Stock ROM get corrected? and what Real features get added.
Thank you
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Of course there is an increase in functionality or else why would devs create custom ROMs. What each ROM has that differs from others are listed in their respective threads. Check it out and see if any interest you. If you are satisfied with stock, stay stock. Not a big deal.
LiLChris06 said:
You come to a developer forum to run fully stock?
That's what goes through my head when I see people afraid of flashing.
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Honestly, I used to hang around here for the community - but that's quickly turning me into a simple lurker.
I'm extremely interested in the developers work. However, I find that the stock factory firmwares are every bit as good or stable as anything that gets turned out in the dev areas. The stock ROMs also do everything I need and want. Plus, I don't like AOSP Android, and that seems to be what everybody is focusing on these days. Also, the 3rd party roms generally have too much changed, removed or added for my tastes.
Edit: Oh, and while I generally like the OEMs code, I have no problem using a good 3rd party kernel.
AT&T releases are typically buggy. The developers here either fix those bugs, or use firmware bases from the international version that are more robust and stable. It is too early to know what bugs this UCLE5 release may contain, but the original AT&T UCKH7 firmware had lockscreen security issues, the official AT&T update UCKK6 broken bluetooth hid and serious power management issues. The AT&T ICS leaks leading up to this version, UCLD3 and UCLD4 had a very serious flaw in the kernel which caused several people with the I777 to lose their device due to eMMC chip damage. Since the kernel source code for the current official AT&T UCLE5 has not been released yet, it is not possible to confirm that the kernel supplied with the UCLE5 release is free of this serious issue. Therefore, it would be advisable to either not run this firmware, or use a modified rooted version in which the kernel is replaced with a known safe kernel.
creepyncrawly said:
AT&T releases are typically buggy. The developers here either fix those bugs, or use firmware bases from the international version that are more robust and stable. It is too early to know what bugs this UCLE5 release may contain, but the original AT&T UCKH7 firmware had lockscreen security issues, the official AT&T update UCKK6 broken bluetooth hid and serious power management issues. The AT&T ICS leaks leading up to this version, UCLD3 and UCLD4 had a very serious flaw in the kernel which caused several people with the I777 to lose their device due to eMMC chip damage. Since the kernel source code for the current official AT&T UCLE5 has not been released yet, it is not possible to confirm that the kernel supplied with the UCLE5 release is free of this serious issue. Therefore, it would be advisable to either not run this firmware, or use a modified rooted version in which the kernel is replaced with a known safe kernel.
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Thank you for a very clear explanation.
raduque said:
Honestly, I used to hang around here for the community - but that's quickly turning me into a simple lurker.
I'm extremely interested in the developers work. However, I find that the stock factory firmwares are every bit as good or stable as anything that gets turned out in the dev areas. The stock ROMs also do everything I need and want. Plus, I don't like AOSP Android, and that seems to be what everybody is focusing on these days. Also, the 3rd party roms generally have too much changed, removed or added for my tastes.
Edit: Oh, and while I generally like the OEMs code, I have no problem using a good 3rd party kernel.
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you definitely haven't been running an android device if you say this (marked in BOLD). Considering the fact that for our device in particular, they have released BS that is not only buggy as hell, but has bricked a ton of devices. I think you should probably do a little research before making such bold comments. :laugh:
I got board enough to try the full LE5 including kernel. So far better than D4 and previous ics. Tegrak works as it does on the 9100 base kernels so that tells me i777 is catching up or has caught up. Could be just odex, but all benchmarks higher than on any of the aokp or 9100 sammy roms I've tried.
I'd like to see someone customize this if it remains stable. I've added 15 toggle from other roms, but I jusy like having firmware meant for device.
I-777 UCLE5
Tegrak oc/uv 1.452 ghz
Stable & Fast
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you definitely haven't been running an android device if you say this (marked in BOLD). Considering the fact that for our device in particular, they have released BS that is not only buggy as hell, but has bricked a ton of devices. I think you should probably do a little research before making such bold comments. :laugh:
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lol
I've been running Android devices and flashing firmwares since 2009.
I also haven't seen any of the bugs or issues mentioned on this forum. Doesn't mean they don't exist. The stock 2.3 rom that came with my GS2 from AT&T was amazingly, impressively stable compared to what came with my Vibrant, or even ANY of the community roms for it.
UCLE5 bug:
unable to use wide image for wallpaper, so you can only get a fixed wallpaper, not a scrolling wallpaper. This bug was present in the leaks, and has not been fixed in the official release.
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UCLE5 bug:
unable to use wide image for wallpaper, so you can only get a fixed wallpaper, not a scrolling wallpaper. This bug was present in the leaks, and has not been fixed in the official release.
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IMO, non issue.
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IMO, non issue.
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Yes, many would not care. Many would. Ask AT&T or Samsung, and they will probably say it is a feature.
I upgraded to the official ICS through kies, and have to say am not impressed at all by it. I waited for the official update and didnt root my phone to get ICS earlier. so now since i dislike the official, i want to go with a custom. now i have never rooted a phone before, but i have found some steps online on how to root a galaxy s2. The link is galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-ics-on-att-galaxy-s2-sgh-i777/
I have heard there are many ways to root the same device, where one may work better than another. So should i follow these steps, or does anyone recommend another way? is it even true there are more than one ways to root?
I'm just used to iphones one click jailbreaks.
I searched the forums but it seems no one really needs help with simple rooting anymore. My goal is to install Google Now onto my device. Thanks.
xnotoriouzpakix said:
I upgraded to the official ICS through kies, and have to say am not impressed at all by it. I waited for the official update and didnt root my phone to get ICS earlier. so now since i dislike the official, i want to go with a custom. now i have never rooted a phone before, but i have found some steps online on how to root a galaxy s2. The link is galaxys2root.com/galaxy-s2-root/how-to-root-ics-on-att-galaxy-s2-sgh-i777/
I have heard there are many ways to root the same device, where one may work better than another. So should i follow these steps, or does anyone recommend another way? is it even true there are more than one ways to root?
I'm just used to iphones one click jailbreaks.
I searched the forums but it seems no one really needs help with simple rooting anymore. My goal is to install Google Now onto my device. Thanks.
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I'm sorry but everything is wrong about your post. You need to do some research before you root. NEVER use galaxys2root.com for anything. Google now only fully works on jellybean and until those roms come out you're out of luck.
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Nick281051 said:
I'm sorry but everything is wrong about your post. You need to do some research before you root. NEVER use galaxys2root.com for anything. Google now only fully works on jellybean and until those roms come out you're out of luck.
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I did alot of research, i didnt know galaxys2root wasnt a trustworthy site. Can you please recommend another way i could root after upgrading to official ICS? I have read a few articles about a port onto ICS devices. But if you dont recommend to do that just yet, i still want to flash a custom rom onto my device. i really hate the official at&t ics compared to the customs i have tried on other peoples phones.
I have read articles of how to root on here as well, but they are years old so im not sure if they are still the best method and are compatible for ICS.
xnotoriouzpakix said:
I did alot of research, i didnt know galaxys2root wasnt a trustworthy site. Can you please recommend another way i could root after upgrading to official ICS? I have read a few articles about a port onto ICS devices. But if you dont recommend to do that just yet, i still want to flash a custom rom onto my device. i really hate the official at&t ics compared to the customs i have tried on other peoples phones.
I have read articles of how to root on here as well, but they are years old so im not sure if they are still the best method and are compatible for ICS.
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got my answer forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746181 .if i dont know which kernel to choose should i be rooting my device? after rreading i was thinking to go with NEAK but then there are more options for AOSP/AOKP kernel, WITH mic swap, and WITHOUT mic swap. I know for i777 i need a without mic swap kenel, but whats the difference if i do the AOSP/AOKP kernel from the mic swaps?
xnotoriouzpakix said:
got my answer forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1746181 .if i dont know which kernel to choose should i be rooting my device? after rreading i was thinking to go with NEAK but then there are more options for AOSP/AOKP kernel, WITH mic swap, and WITHOUT mic swap. I know for i777 i need a without mic swap kenel, but whats the difference if i do the AOSP/AOKP kernel from the mic swaps?
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Any of the four kernels linked in the OP of the thread you referenced will do. I don't think there are any other appropriate kernels anyway.
The kernel you need will be no mike swap, since this is not a converted I9100 rom. And it must work with Samsung roms, so AOSP/AOKP only kernels will not work.
It doesn't really matter much which one you choose, if you are going to flash a rom, since the rom will come with the rom developers preferred kernel anyway.
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Any of the four kernels linked in the OP of the thread you referenced will do. I don't think there are any other appropriate kernels anyway.
The kernel you need will be no mike swap, since this is not a converted I9100 rom. And it must work with Samsung roms, so AOSP/AOKP only kernels will not work.
It doesn't really matter much which one you choose, if you are going to flash a rom, since the rom will come with the rom developers preferred kernel anyway.
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whats the difference between mic swap and no mic swap anyway besides that one is for 9100 and others for i777. just curiousity.
thanks for the help.
xnotoriouzpakix said:
whats the difference between mic swap and no mic swap anyway besides that one is for 9100 and others for i777. just curiousity.
thanks for the help.
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Exactly what it sounds like, the mic gets swapped
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xnotoriouzpakix said:
whats the difference between mic swap and no mic swap anyway besides that one is for 9100 and others for i777. just curiousity.
thanks for the help.
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The i9100 ROMS that are ported to the i777 need the mic swap because the i9100 mics and ear piece are swapped. So you don't have to talk in to the ear piece on the i777....
Happy victim of galaxys2root, lol
ok beaches.... cannot open bad is what it is... BAD... downloading the zips again and installing worked!!!! Happy Joy joy!
So... thinking.. yes where I first went wrong... with having aokp running I thought sweet, I've got my big boy pants on and I'll just try and update to the latest AOKP... again not knowing my ass from my head I'm getting cannot open emmc bull....
For the lameo that I must be for nut finding the solution after trying for an hour somebody throw me a freaking bone.... with 50K people online here surely someone can hold my hand and tell me what to do so i can drull on my att gs2 with the latest AOKP running on it
Please hurry with a reply and thank you in advance... your Mom would be proud you helped an old man that needs help crossing the rom...
--Barry
Nick281051 said:
I'm sorry but everything is wrong about your post. You need to do some research before you root. NEVER use galaxys2root.com for anything. Google now only fully works on jellybean and until those roms come out you're out of luck.
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I'm strangely happy about finding galaxys2root... I wished I'd started here so that my understanding of rooting , kernels, roms and all the tips and tricks made some sort of sense to me....
With that said w/o the sells pitch of the AOKP and the video from that website I wouldn't have chanced "brick'n" my GS2(at&ti777) for the AOKP and luckily i got it working and love it so much it had me searching more about it and found XDA; TASK650, WONNER... I'd love to say I'm going to read 1000's of post a day to get caught up to speed but there's going to be probably 10X more post a day than i can read so I'll just keep falling behind...
What I'd like to know is now that someone(me) has done the half/hazard root job and has a functioning rom/phone... exactly in really boring spoon feeding language and pretty pictures go about getting everything needed to get to the latest kernels/roms for AOKP
Here's my current settings thanks to outdated rootgs2....
About phone
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Model number: SGH-I777
Android version: 4.0.4
Baseband version: I777UCLE5
Kernel version: 3.0.28-Wurd-CM-gaaa0e0b-dirty [email protected]****-You#1 SMP PREEMPT Mon May 14 06:27:46 PDT 2012 (FU dirty?)
Build number: Task650's AOKP
Mod version: AOKP i777 Build 36​
Feel free to point and laugh... but i love my Samsung Galaxy S2 more than ever now... so excited to have it better, just don't know what to do next....
Which way do i go for getting my phone up to date with AOKP... please type slowly
--Barry
Do I need a new kernel???
I've got the newest AOKP... do I need to change my kernel or is it ok...
K Version... 3.0.28-CM-gaaa0e0b task650-****You #1
--Barry
bjsexpress said:
I've got the newest AOKP... do I need to change my kernel or is it ok...
K Version... 3.0.28-CM-gaaa0e0b task650-****You #1
--Barry
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You don't need to but many like fluxxi
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Fluxxi Me...
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You don't need to but many like fluxxi
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So... I'm proud I got the latest AOKP on my AT&T GS2... so what would I do to get fluxxi around here???
I feel like it's Russian roulette every time i try something with my phone... exciting but not so much if i f'up... in easy steps can the kernel be replaced from the current rom without restarting all over again? What would fluxxi do for me being I don't know what day it is???
--Barry
You shouldn't install fluxi until you know why you want it.
In the mean time, the kernel you installed with your AOKP is just fine.
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You shouldn't install fluxi until you know why you want it.
In the mean time, the kernel you installed with your AOKP is just fine.
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This, if you don't know how or why then don't
Sent from my Sony Xperia Ion
WELCOME! I see alot of noobs here and i would suggest that you take some time to READ READ READ, here on xda. There are stickies in every sub-section worth reading. ALL.. and i mean ALL your questions have been asked at least 1000 times, any information you need is right here in these threads. You will def. get ALOT more help if you just take your time and read the threads, We were all noobs once... and for gods sake use the thanks button if someone has given you information, or helped in anyway!
If i were to recommend a rom to anyone that wants the ICS experience, i would have to go with TASK650&Ktoonsez AOKP. It is simple enough for someone who is new to set up and as you learn more things you will be able to discover you can pretty much customize anything you'd like with it. As far as Kernels go, everyone experiences different results. One may yield great battery life and be as smooth as butter for me, and the same one might not play nice with yours. So the best advice is to Flash all of them (not at once:laugh and let it settle in (usually like 3 charge cycles) and make your decision off of that.
Hope this helps some...
Thanks for the input... I'd only seen one thing that made me want aokp without a clue of what else it may have/do. After installing it... I needed private time alone with all of the wonderful finger strokes I'd given my screen
I'll reluctantly read what I can find on what the geek the flux capacitor does... but please feel free to give out the high lights to why you have it or had it installed and if there's reasons you don't have it any more then number one con to not use the fluxster.
Thanks again xda masters!
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After months of convincing her how much better Android is then the iPhone (and buying her a Nexus 7 tablet - which finally pushed her over the edge) she has picked up a SIII.
Now, my first instinct is to grab the sucker, root it, put CyanogenMOD on it. But, that is the "hacker" in me talking.
I don't want to "ruin" her experience. So, do I leave the phone "as is" with the TouchWiz on it? Do I install a custom ROM?
I know ZERO about the phone as I've only purchased Nexus devices for myself (Yes, I have a N4 - complete with broken glass back already).
So I am turning to you all, that have the phone, to help me help her.
Any tips, recommendations, experiences, hacks, ROMs, Apps, etc..etc.. that you can share would be helpful.
Thanks all!
Same with my other half, I ended up leaving Touchwiz on it as everything else was too difficult for her and I suppose Touchwiz is simple, isn't it?
Ask her if she wants the phone rooted
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She knows nothing about that... remember she is coming from an iPhone. So iPhone users aren't really as technical / geeky as us Android users are. :good:
I am going to have to root it though. I just realized that Google Wallet is not allowed to be installed on the device. She REALLY wants that. So a "root" is a definite now at this point.
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Ask her if she wants the phone rooted
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I'd say go with the Sammy-based ROMs (the ones in the regular development section) so it has all the TW features, but put Domination theme on it to give it an AOSP look, as I hate the TW design. You can try null rom, it has domination included. Also check out JKay framework in original development and see if you want to use that as well, it's included in the null rom too.
dont make her to escape from touchwhiz...its actually a nice launcher for someone who started it....its nice and simple with all the stuff thats needed for a user...
also, check what all apps are synced with network all the time, so that she is not frustrated by the battery usage...sync apps only that are required...by default some of the unwanted apps will be synced...
also, if you are rooting, make take off all the crappy apps...i think that should make it to be a good experience for her n you... have a nice journey with sgs3 and N4..
Yup, since I am rooting it, off comes all the 'bloatware' installed on the phone.
How does that effect OTA from Sammie though? If an update comes out and I have removed the 'bloatware' will the OTA still come through and update without getting the "Red Android Exclamation" mark ?
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dont make her to escape from touchwhiz...its actually a nice launcher for someone who started it....its nice and simple with all the stuff thats needed for a user...
also, check what all apps are synced with network all the time, so that she is not frustrated by the battery usage...sync apps only that are required...by default some of the unwanted apps will be synced...
also, if you are rooting, make take off all the crappy apps...i think that should make it to be a good experience for her n you... have a nice journey with sgs3 and N4..
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You can have UltimaROM. It is a Sammy based ROM with JB Domination theme- looks beautiful. It has wide open choice of menus in the AROMA Installer that can let you not to install bloatware. You can have Nova Launcher within that installation to not have Touchwiz also . I am running this ROM for almost 3 months.
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You can have UltimaROM. It is a sammy based ROM with JB Domination theme- looks beautiful. It has wide open choice of menus in the AROMA Installer that can let you not to install bloatware. You can have Nova Launcher within that installation to not have Touchwiz also . I am running this ROM for almost 4 months.
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Ultimarom is sammy or aosp ?
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sammy
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Official XXELLA 4.1.2 Jellybean.
Jelly Bean Domination - True AOSP style
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i thought ... so is just ... style
Girls like simple stock, but root and a decent kernel will help her (no ads etc and better sound/performance)
I have a N7 and love it. For the S3, try the most popular rom with lots of support and gui installer (omega v37) to start with. It has lots of different themes to try from the kitchen as well as mods etc. It's very stable. I use the boeffla kernel, close to stock, fantastic sound enhancements, she'll love it... Don't forget to remove the bloat!
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usafle said:
Yup, since I am rooting it, off comes all the 'bloatware' installed on the phone.
How does that effect OTA from Sammie though? If an update comes out and I have removed the 'bloatware' will the OTA still come through and update without getting the "Red Android Exclamation" mark ?
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The moment you root it, thr device status will change to "modified" n from that moment you wont get any official updates, you have to rely on XDA, n must say XDA is not doing bad for updates...
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usafle said:
After months of convincing her how much better Android is then the iPhone (and buying her a Nexus 7 tablet - which finally pushed her over the edge) she has picked up a SIII.
....I don't want to "ruin" her experience. ....
So I am turning to you all, that have the phone, to help me help her.
Any tips, recommendations, experiences, hacks, ROMs, Apps, etc..etc.. that you can share would be helpful.
Thanks all!
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As you may know, the XDA community is ALWAYS keen to make ANY sacrifice to help another user.
As this time it is my turn, and noone offered this earlier, I think that the easiest for you way would be if you'll send your girl with her phone to me for about two-three weeks.
I can ensure you that it will not ruin her (and I hope mine as well) experiences< and I can assure you- it will be plenty of rooting...
I would suggest keeping it stock so it has all the features but putting nova launcher on to keep it a consistent user experience with her nexus 7.
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As you may know, the XDA community is ALWAYS keen to make ANY sacrifice to help another user.
As this time it is my turn, and noone offered this earlier, I think that the easiest for you way would be if you'll send your girl with her phone to me for about two-three weeks.
I can ensure you that it will not ruin her (and I hope mine as well) experiences< and I can assure you- it will be plenty of rooting...
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When he gets it back, though, it'll be obvious it's been modified and the guy won't get any more support. The phone will probably behave differently too.
Cyanogenmod might be a little too intimate for an android virgin, stick to only touchwiz.
And getting the xella kernel is recommended to be on the safe-er side of the sudden death bug (or any other kernel with the bug fix).
You my friend, have issues! LOL
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As you may know, the XDA community is ALWAYS keen to make ANY sacrifice to help another user.
As this time it is my turn, and noone offered this earlier, I think that the easiest for you way would be if you'll send your girl with her phone to me for about two-three weeks.
I can ensure you that it will not ruin her (and I hope mine as well) experiences< and I can assure you- it will be plenty of rooting...
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I recommend the crDroid rom. This one has a lot of options to choose, so you can install only what you need.
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
BraeA said:
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
Drew
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and questions go to the questions section
Glebun said:
and questions go to the questions section
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And I missed that fundamental point lol
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BraeA said:
Hey guys. Im not trying to be that guy that bothers everyone Im just looking for a few simple answers and tips. I have always had iphones, I just switched to a S3 due to apple lack of changes. I have been debating on rooting in order to get the super necxus project rom(you can youtube it) What im looking for is good reason on why I should root my s3 and why I shouldnt. I know if I do it will void warrenty ect, That does not bother me. What iam worried about is the phone slowing down, Losing battery life, crashing, and bricking. And lastly whats nightly version mean?
Thanks guys.
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Rooting on it's own will not brick, slow down or loose battery life etc, it's what you do with the phone after you root that can do this, things like overclocking will affect battery, undervolting and underclocking will affect performance, but what you can do after rooting is things like use faster fix to slightly increase gps fix time, you can block ads, you can modify any system file etc etc, you can essentially do anything.
Latest Nightly is a term used for the latest version of CyanogenMod, which is an aftermarket firmware (custom ROM) new versions are built on their servers every night hence the name Nightly.
drew071 said:
First of all welcome to the forums and we'll done for leaving Apple lol.
Nightly is a term given for a Rom that is released every night.mostly new mods and tweaks to improve or intend to improve on from the last nightly.these are seen as betas and every now and again a stable or milestone version will be released.
There is no real reason why you should root. It's whether you want to benefit from having full system control or not that you would do it. It's up to you.
Flashing roms such as super nexus does have its downside as it's built from open source. As Samsung do not release all of their sources some parts are taken from the open source project. This means they do not always take full advantage of the hardware. An example of this is the camera in aosp/aokp/cm roms is not as good as the stock camera in touch wiz roms.
Battery life is also reported to be better in stock Roms than on aokp/aosp/cm and from personal experience I'd have to agree.
Hope this helps a little.
There is a lot that can be done when rooted but if you're not fussed about messing with the system then dont do it.
Drew
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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CM10.1 is very smooth and in my opinion even smoother compared to Stock TouchWiz. Just flash it and if you for some reason don`t like it, you can always go back to a Stock TouchWiz ROM. There are plenty to choose from here at XDA. Oh and don`t ask what`s the best ROM around here, just try them out yourself
Oh and if you deside to Root and to flash a ROM on your device then read every little detail on how to do it. I`ve seen plenty of cases here, where people screwed up their devices because they flashed wrong stuff on their phone.
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Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Its considerably smoother! If CM10.1 is hot butter, then TouchWiz is cold syrup.
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BraeA said:
Tank you Drew, The CM10.1, How smooth is that compared to the stock os on my s3?
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Theshawty said:
Aosp looks considerably better than the stock firmwares also known as TouchWiz (Samsung's ghastly user interface)
But aosp-based roms for this phone sucks plain abs simple because Samsung doesn't hand out the source code for their SoC (System on a chip)
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It is smooth but as theshawty had pointed out it's not as good as it could be due to Sammy.
If you want a mix of both worlds you would do better looking for a stable stock based Rom and then theming it to suit. There isn't much to gain from flashing cm atm. If you want the launcher just download nova, apex or halo as these are the same as stock Google launcher used in cm builds.
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Rooting itself does not do much difference unless you flash roms. I suggest you try Cyanogenmod, AOKP for starters. Then you can go with others like RootBox, PAC man ROm or ParanoidKangdroid which for me are the best there are. Other ROMs like Carbon and Liquidsmooth are pretty good too.
I suggest you download Goomanager first and browse between compatible Roms. Also learn how to do Nandroid backups and regular. Trust me, you're gonna need them.
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As mentioned in previous posts cyanogen based roms FOR S3 in my opinion are not as smooth as expected. If u install a custom samsung based rom and a good kernel, i find that they are as smooth or sometimes smoother than cyanogen. Also the latest full stock samsung roms and kernels are really smooth and battery friendly.
As u dont have an issue in rooting. u should try all roms n decide.
And rooting does have many benefits. Especially the audio mods will completely change the audio quality of your phone. ACID with boeffla sound control is amazing. Get good quality earphones also to experience this.
Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
Jellybean Sandwich is really fantastic. It's based on ICS, so if you require Jellybean specific features it might not be for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356408
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How would one "qualify" their opinion with "crash frequency" if the rom they are using doesn't crash? There are many more roms than the ones you have listed.
Also, it has been my exprience that the 4.3 roms are very stable.
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I also second Jellybean sandwhich. It's great for stability, and since you would like to know to what extent I mean "stable" then this is what I mean...this ROM has NEVER crashed or rebooted on me, and for countless other users. It is an ICS based rom, with added jellybean features. It's a lightweight ROM, with not as many features as say AOKP, but many of those features can be added with "Xposed Mod" if you've ever used it. So you get the "speed" of jellybean, with the absolute stability of ICS. I highly recommend you try it out. People who have had trouble with the ROM (there are very few) have all induced the problems on their own, or probably have faulty hardware. I can vouch that if you wipe clean, and flash correctly everything will work right out of the box, except USB mount (which there is a fix to make it work), and a bug that gives you and "sd card damaged" notification when nothing is really wrong.
EDIT: If you want a fast touchwiz based ROM that is not necessarily Jellybean. I recommend Novena ROM. It's an older ROM but one of the fastest ROMs you can get for our phone. You may have to look on the second page in the development section as it hasn't been updated in months
Go to an ICS rom if you want speed and stability. No matter what anyone on these forums will say, you cannot, cannot, cannot find speed and stability in ANY jb rom. Some may have stability, but lack speed. If you just use them [jb roms] for a while, you can forget that they aren't fast and become accustomed to them, but if you touch an ICS ROM or a newer galaxy phone, you'll quickly be reminded that you're delusional.
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
Honestly, I'm using a stock deodexed/debloated ROM. Works just fine for me.
SkeletonKey, Padawan, JellyBeer, Prophylactic are all also great ones that I personally used a lot.
Your mileage may vary though.
captemo said:
both Touchwiz Rom's are stable. they are rocks and will not give you a random reboot. if you have read like you said, than you may have even seen one of several postings in the Padawan tread. if you haven't.......p355-378 is a good read and will lay out some solid fundamental settings which would lead you to nirvana.
many also seem to overlook one 4.2 rom, as even I did for the longest time. Sons of Android or SOA is the ONLY 4.2 rom out there that I got no randoms with and did not need to seek an alternate kernel.
those are just 2 roms. everyone will tell you, every phone is a bit different. finding a rom that is going to satisfy everyone the same. its like voting for a President now and days. you don't really vote for the one you want anymore, its voting for the lesser of two evils. everybody knows, you cant have good without evil.
you are getting some good personal opinions here. it sounds like you know what your looking for, but you have yet to decide as to what you are willing to tolerate. we all tolerate something for the rom that we want. what evil are you willing to tolerate? only you can answer
me........stability is what I seek, and lack of some bells and whistles is what I tolerate. as mentioned previously, I get some of that back with Xposed and keep my stability.
good luck my friend
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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You know Cap, speaking of Sons of Android, you wouldn't happen to have that zip would you? that may be one of the only ROMs I don't seem to have on my computer. would love to give it a reflash.
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PM sent my friend
I've been on Revolt for 2 weeks and no crashes. The only 'bug' is that sometimes when you press PWR to activate the phone, the capacitive buttons highlight but the screen stays blank. Press PWR twice (once to turn 'off' and again to turn back on) and you'll see the lock screen.
I was playing with the tweaks a lot, so this 'bug' could just be from something I did. Other than that it's blistering fast compared to Bell stock (yes, I'm on Bell too and feel your pain) and I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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Hey All,
First, and most importantly, I would like to say hello and THANKS to all of the people on this forum and devs who put together and support CFW's. You all do great jobs, and should be proud of your work.
Second, I have not posted here before since my questions were always answered with a search of the forums. This time it is not the case as I will explain.
I have a Galaxy note from Bell and I think it is an awesome piece of hardware (so much so I also bought a Note 10.1). I was quite happy with it for a long time but my patience for touchwiz eventually wore thin. Turning on the phone to make a call or text and having to wait while the phone finishes some phantom background task was incredibly annoying. Why does Samsung make great hardware and then ruin it with bloatware and junk?
This led me to to find a CFW which did not have this issue. I tried several and was blown away by the quality and completeness of these roms. They solved so many problems and did things the way the should have been done in the first place. I was in heaven. There was just one problem...stability. None of them slowed to a crawl and were always blisteringly fast, but the phone would lock up and reboot once every day or 2. This was not acceptable for a phone which is needed for work and emergencies. I would assume that the small number of these phones makes it less likely for the roms to be tested with them to the same extent as for a Note 2 or S3. I have even tried touchwiz-based roms which do not crash, but have the same occasional unresponsiveness of the samsung original.
So here is my question: has anyone found a rom which is STABLE in a real way? When I search I see people who say roms are stable but they never qualify their opinion with crash frequency so it remains a purely relative term. I love this phone and would really love to have a rom like PAC with all of its awesomeness but stability is king for me.
Here is what I have tried, full wipes done before each flash:
Cyanogenmod 10.0, 10.1
PAC rom
Padawan
Blackstar Blackjelly, 2 different versions
Thanks.
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Revolt is really good for me , you should this one
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Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
shayneflashindaily said:
Isn't soa in the development section?
2$HAYNE
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
ZacksBuilds said:
Could you also send that to me please and thank you?
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Thanks man.
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The current beanstalk is smooth and stable.
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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nah. All of Pt's links are down.
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thanks bro
Really now said:
There is also a new 4.3 ROM in the Q&A section that has been extremely stable on my phone the past two days. The kernel built into the ROM is a version I beleive of the Cl3Kener kernel and can be OC'd and what not. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448069
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Wasn't so stable on my part....But everyone's phone works in misterous wayssssss
2$HAYNE
I'm going to flash helly right now.
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