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Hey guys, we did a great job the first time around (thanks ckoadyin!!!) But sources say this could be voted on as early as next week! http://americancensorship.org/ for more info and to sign the petition again! I believe if you provide information to where you live when signing that it will automatically send email to your local congressmen, but on top of that we want as many emails and calls as possible. Worst case scenario for a filibuster to be initiated. We have a little more time this time around, so sign, call, spread the word to every social network possible, and to every forum here on xda. I can't tell you how important this is, specially considering this is being advertised as an anti piracy measure (which is total crap!), it gives law makers and large corporations tons of power to censor the internet!
Thanks for reading guys, act fast, power to the people!
I'm surprised there hasn't been any reply to this, this is so scary. I don't want my freedom to obtain or distribute information taken away
Sad Panda said:
I'm surprised there hasn't been any reply to this, this is so scary. I don't want my freedom to obtain or distribute information taken away
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Is panda sad?
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Step 1) Wait for bill to pass
Step 2) Post illegal links all over government sites
Step 3) Win?
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Is panda sad?
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Panda so sad
yousefak said:
Step 1) Wait for bill to pass
Step 2) Post illegal links all over government sites
Step 3) Win?
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you are full of win
does this mean google will be taken down because illegal links and information can be accessed through the search? hope not but i chuckle at the thought
Dude, the 3 major internet giants (Google, yahoo, Bing) are all AGAINST the bill, trust me, after a couple of friends and ke kinda compared the conditions of this bill to the bill of rights in the constitution alone, it would spit all over it! By shutting down Google, you shut down blogger (freedom of speech, press, religion, peaceful assembly cut) Google ads (pretty much all rights since Google Taylor's ads to what type of site u use), and by doing that, you will probably shutdown the android project, because all major funding for Google and its servers are gone! (Freedom of expression infringed) and various other things! This bill wouldn't stand a chance!!!!!!
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Dude, the 3 major internet giants (Google, yahoo, Bing) are all AGAINST the bill, trust me, after a couple of friends and ke kinda compared the conditions of this bill to the bill of rights in the constitution alone, it would spit all over it! By shutting down Google, you shut down blogger (freedom of speech, press, religion, peaceful assembly cut) Google ads (pretty much all rights since Google Taylor's ads to what type of site u use), and by doing that, you will probably shutdown the android project, because all major funding for Google and its servers are gone! (Freedom of expression infringed) and various other things! This bill wouldn't stand a chance!!!!!!
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Although the bill won't pass, here's a more accurate depiction:
1 - They shut down thepiratebay and other torrent sites
2 - Reddit, 4chan, etc. get extremely angry
3 - they shut down 4chan
4 - users of 4chan hack government websites, start riots, god knows what they are capable of...
But the SOPA bill is probably there to make the Protect-IP thing sound reasonable even though it is still crazy.
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Although the bill won't pass, here's a more accurate depiction:
1 - They shut down thepiratebay and other torrent sites
2 - Reddit, 4chan, etc. get extremely angry
3 - they shut down 4chan
4 - users of 4chan hack government websites, start riots, god knows what they are potential of...
But the SOPA bill is probably there to make the Protect-IP thing sound reasonable even though it is still crazy.
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I think torrent sites suck anyway.! Lol
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Sexual Harassment Panda
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Sexual Harassment Panda
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I'm strangely aroused.
While there is opposition from large companies there is also major support from large companies too. There are over 30 senators just sponsoring the damn thing, and many more supporting it. So you will have to excuse my pessimism, I believe it has a very good chance of passing despite huge opposition from the masses. The companies that are supporting the bill are dumping a lot of money into the pockets of the very senators voting to pass it, therefore it really doesn't matter that it is unpopular.
We have to send the message that if you vote in support you will be trading your political career for it. The only way we do that is by sending emails and calling BEFORE the vote.
So please sign the petition again! If possible call your state representatives too, but at very least sign the petition!!
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Step 1) Wait for bill to pass
Step 2) Post illegal links all over government sites
Step 3) Win?
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Collect underpants?
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http://americancensorship.org/
sign up to call your senator people and leave them a message saying you oppose this bill!!!
do it again they will connect you with your senator! on the spot
ckoadiyn said:
http://americancensorship.org/
sign up to call your senator people and leave them a message saying you oppose this bill!!!
do it again they will connect you with your senator! on the spot
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ahhhhh sweet ck! Thanks for the info, there is no excuse now, half the work is done for you. Let's get on this people. There are two bills we have to kill! SOPA and that internet IP BS.
this is the most ridiculous bill iv ever seen in my life, just the idea of it stomps on our freedom =\
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this is the most ridiculous bill iv ever seen in my life, just the idea of it stomps on our freedom =\
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Thanks for your reply. I have to agree, and it is a potentially scary thought. It is written, and so is the protect IP bill, under the guise that it combats piracy. Except it gives so much power to large companies and the government that it would not be impossible to censor unrelated material! I think Americans like their freedom to obtain information via internet like they like their second amendment rights, which is deal with the consequences of not having that right controlled, rather than lose the freedom altogether. I think it is the responsibility of individual companies to protect their intellectual property themselves, not rely on the government to do it, and in the mean time censor information we have access to.
Am I right?
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Thanks for your reply. I have to agree, and it is a potentially scary thought. It is written, and so is the protect IP bill, under the guise that it combats piracy. Except it gives so much power to large companies and the government that it would not be impossible to censor unrelated material! I think Americans like their freedom to obtain information via internet like they like their second amendment rights, which is deal with the consequences of not having that right controlled, rather than lose the freedom altogether. I think it is the responsibility of individual companies to protect their intellectual property themselves, not rely on the government to do it, and in the mean time censor information we have access to.
Am I right?
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Yep I agree
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I like hitting the thank button just for agreeing with me, lol!
It is absolutely crazy right now. In reality it has been this way for the last 150 years, but the media is focusing so much on the same topic right now it appears as if this crap has just started. With large corporations like general electric not paying taxes and receiving a 3.2 billion dollar tax credit while the lower and middle class get raped with taxes, over regulation on the wrong things, this ciq privacy SNAFU, laws being enacted taking away even our most basic rights....
I mean you can't even throw a stone in any direction and not hit a topic in the news where we actually have real freedom, aren't getting stolen from and cheated by large business and government, ad infinitum! Bah!
Lol so true panda so true n so sad
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Hey guys,
Recently there's been talks about piracy on Android and how developers seem to shy away from it and produce games for iOS. That's actually the reason why developers of Infinite Blade refuses to port the game to Android. I've recently gotten the chance to speak with the creative director Matt Small of Vector Unit (Riptide GP). In this interview he talks about piracy and how its equal on both sides of the os. You guys really think its that bad? In truth when GTA 3 came out today someone already posted the apk on this forums mere hours it showed up in the market.
Anyway check it out:
http://droidgamers.com/index.php/ga...-unit-talks-piracy-tegra-and-of-course-games-
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Piracy is always present in some form and amount on all devices. Windows Phone for example is pretty much closed platform, thus very unsuccessful to make bigger impact on the market. There is always "awareness" in big % of the consumers that think that piracy is bad and illegal, so software market is never that hurt. Some polls says that no platform has piracy more than a 10% (except PC of course), so it is not an issue and reason for someone not to port a good game on all the platforms. PC market is the biggest on the planet, so bigger amount of piracy is actually lower in numbers comparing to the others (more than 1.3 Bilion people are using Windows).
Piracy happens on iOS too. It just takes slightly longer, but every paid app that's worth getting gets pirated sooner or later.
The attitudes towards piracy on iOS versus Android are what I find most interesting though. When I was on iOS, pirating expensive apps was almost chic. It was talked about openly on some sites and seriously everyone I knew with an iPhone had stuff like sinful and hackulous in their Cydia repos. Now that I'm on Android, the online community is all about supporting the devs and pirating is looked down upon (at least openly).
Oh yes there is plenty of piracy going around in the android community. I've been doing some "research" on this topic and have discovered sites like Applanet, Blapkmarket, Snappzmarket, etc. Thrive in third party distribution of both free and paid apps. Though it is frowned upon in the general android population, i understand the people that use these sites when it comes down to not being able to spend hard earned money on overpriced apps in this ridiculous economy. (Not saying i support them, i just understand). Maybe we can make a compromise one day, who knows?
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Pirated apps arenpirated for one main reason. To install some sort malware or keylogger onto your phone. Use a pirated app and enjoy what it brings.
As for apps not being ported because of it is just a cop out. It is everywhere no matter what OS it is.
There is one additional unpleasant thing in market. In some stores (not android market) people steal applications, changes its name (without changing application itself), after that they sell it from their name.
it exist in every OS you can imagine, even something ancient like Atari, or as new as Windows 8
as long as there are humans, you can never get away from it
just like the recent SOPA bill even if it passes, it means nothing as people already have work around and anti SOPA internet ready to deploy the moment it hits
that's why the best way to prevent piracy is to offer the App for free, and make them pay as they use it for additional features
this is becoming a very common practice in a lot of games, even Gameloft has joined the play
they all learned that from the MMO free to play, but pay to upgrade schemes
it's a very "honest" movement, and people will certainly pay to get what they want, as there is no way to dupe, hack, crack, stuff that is only available on the server side.
else they get banned
AllGamer said:
it exist in every OS you can imagine, even something ancient like Atari, or as new as Windows 8
as long as there are humans, you can never get away from it
just like the recent SOPA bill even if it passes, it means nothing as people already have work around and anti SOPA internet ready to deploy the moment it hits
that's why the best way to prevent piracy is to offer the App for free, and make them pay as they use it for additional features
this is becoming a very common practice in a lot of games, even Gameloft has joined the play
they all learned that from the MMO free to play, but pay to upgrade schemes
it's a very "honest" movement, and people will certainly pay to get what they want, as there is no way to dupe, hack, crack, stuff that is only available on the server side.
else they get banned
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''Freemium" or pay to play games is a great alternatives, but is in the brink of oversaturation. Its great that we receive games for free, but the micro transaction will only hurt if every single developer jumps in. I'm sure most will charge you for small ridiculous trinkets.
Take a look at Blood and Glory for example. Great gameplay and graphics. But almost impossible to play without purchasing something. I'd rather pay full price just to have everything available. Its breaks immersion when your trying to play and a box pops out asking you a dollar to unlock a level. Game developers should give us an option for a full game.Sad to see vector unit thinking of going that route.
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Isn't piracy even worse on iOS with stuff like Installous? I think developers should just jump on on board - by joining android they're going to make more money anyway aren't they?
Im not saying piracy isn't a problem on Android, but it's much more of a problem on iOS. Google have license checks with the market, which I don't believe exist on iOS. Saying you wont make an app for Android because of piracy is complete ********
I don't get it. Why not just install the free versions and deal with the ads? It's not that expensive to pay for the full app, not most apps anyways? I think pirating apps is more of an "because I can" and less of an "I can't afford it."
The worst is buying an app that receives no updates , becomes obselete and then just sits in your app list forever.....
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But equally, when you put the word "open" in open source, this is something google should have been prepared for. They even give the tools for piraters to pirate files. For example, if I'm rooted and know a package name of an APK, then all I have to do is adb pull the file, and upload it. It is sad that people go out and pirate games because it does discourage devs, but they know the wolves are in the den ahead before they walk into the forest. Apple is jailbreakable, but that takes for-freaking-ever, webOS is now open source, so its gonna have some miiiinor issues, and Windows basically hits the idea of open source with a giant middle finger, so it is horrible, but its one of those things you don't have a choice to do but accept.!
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just make all games pay as you go like sleepy jack and cordy or the many many many MMO "free" to play, but pay to be elite
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I don't get it. Why not just install the free versions and deal with the ads? It's not that expensive to pay for the full app, not most apps anyways? I think pirating apps is more of an "because I can" and less of an "I can't afford it."
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Because not every application has a free ad-supported version
Simple reason google checkout not supported by all banks, the transfer is declined,in india hence we cant buy any app...
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Ok, here I go....I'm sure I'll get mega-flamed for this but..I don't care. I pirate. Alot. Why? Because I'm poor. Seriously. I feel like, its not fair that only those that have money get to enjoy everything. Typically, if an app is good and really proves itself useful, I will eventually buy it when I'm able. Same goes for PC software, movies, music, etc. Why the hell would I wanna waste money I don't have on something that turns out to be worthless crap. And furthermore, the rights holders that seem to ***** the most tend to be (typically but not always) those that are most well off. I'm sorry, but I don't feel bad because I didn't put another dollar in some rich [email protected]%k's pocket. Like I said, if its worthy, I'll eventually buy it. I have paid for all the must have paid apps that I use for rooting my phone and tweaking it etc. Which brings me to another point, the fact that so many seem to believe that the rooting community as a whole only root so we can pirate...pure BS. As someone who admits to pirating, I root my phone for the pure and simple reason of installing custom ROMS and tweaking my phone. I can do all the pirating I want on my PC, I don't need my phone for that. I do try to support devs that provide quality and useful apps, because I know they are working hard to try and earn a buck, just like me...but all the rich conglomerates can kiss my @ss. If I had plenty of money, I wouldn't pirate...honestly, what would be the point? But I don't. So for now I'm just a little dog trying to enjoy myself in world made for big dogs. And that's considered a crime...that's a crying shame.
And on a side note, I'm really not trying to be offensive, just being honest...
I can get any app i want on my iphone for free if I were so inclinded.
reality is app makers make more with ios apps. end of story
UPDATE: SOPA HAS BEEN POSTPONED TILL' 2012 (Read here)
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After a bit of research on a bill that could possibly be passed dubbed "SOPA" I wanted to share what I've learned/found, and then get the opinion on the matter from the Vibrant community...
INFO ON SOPA:
You maybe haven't heard of SOPA, it's not like the news is covering it, or in general very much discussed about considering how big of an effect it can have on the world. Well, if you haven't already heard about SOPA then you're going to be in for a very big surprise today. SOPA stands for the Stop Online Piracy Act- Now wait. Stopping piracy? That actually doesn't sound to bad. Pirating a movie for example is stealing, so this bill would be a good thing? No. No. It wouldn't.
SOPA (if passed) would allow for the government to block any website that contains copyrighted material. What do I mean by that? Say some little Bieber fan girl on YouTube posts a download link to a new song of his. Well, that's actually not legal, so YouTube is now in jeopardy of being shutdown. I'm not even being over dramatic, this is a fact. Sites like Facebook, Twitter, even XDA would have to censor their millions users or risk getting shutdown. Although any website, foreign or domestic, big or a small start up, can get shutdown I just want to emphasize that all those very popular sites (Twitter, YouTube, Facebook, XDA) are by no means outside of the bills laws.
That's not the end of it though, there is more! SOPA can also ban generic drugs! Maybe to most of us that just means coughing up a buck or two more for real Tylenol instead of buying the cheaper (yet just as effective) Target brand one. Maybe so. But what about people who can't afford that buck or two more? That means people in need who can't afford name brand medicine are completely out of luck...
This bill also goes by the name H.R.3261 and the Protect IP Act.
EDUCATE YOURSELF ON SOPA!Now that I've given you a taste of what SOPA is about, I suggest you go and educate yourself on SOPA. Understand it, maybe even read the full text (link in "Useful Links" section). Then, if you can, spend twenty minutes and watch this video on YouTube about SOPA. It's very informal...
USEFUL LINKS:
(Originally posted by XDA member "jamRwoo")
"Contacting The Congress" - Easily lookup the names/contact information of your Reps/Senators.
SOPA Wikipedia Article - References - These references link to a variety of websites/articles that are both for and against this bill. I would like to personally point out how most of those in support are entities of a political nature, while those against are largely non-political technology-oriented entities.
Full Text of H.R.3261 [PDF] - A relatively "short" 78 pages.
Hearing Information - House Judiciary Committee - This bill is on "the fastrack," meaning its authors are trying to push it through as quickly as possible...This hearing is where the bill began it's journey today (11/16/11).
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If you think SOPA will only cause trouble, contact congress! This website is a great tool at doing such.
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Feel free to reply with your opinion on the matter and/or participate in the poll at the top of the post.
this thread is so bias its just too ridiculous to take seriously. you're title itself pushes public opinion towards the censorship route (so I see you edite the title now -_-). Also in the sources you posted it specifically says that sites like youtube will not be held liable if they act promptly to take away the copyrighted material. do I think it's all BS? hells ye, but it doesn't mean they're not wrong. piracy is stealing period, regardless of your philosophical views that music and games should be free. if somebody wants to charge for their product you don't have to buy it, but you shouldn't be stealing it either.
I think the videogame, music and movie industry need a new format to publish their media and need to be more open and fair in terms of pricing because thats whats allowed these peer to peer sharing sites to soar in popularity. people are just fed up with the bull**** prices of subpar products, ie CODMW3 and the fact that it cost 60 bucks while offering nothing new = complete ripoff, while you can get BF3 for less = heaven.
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this thread is so bias its just too ridiculous to take seriously. you're title itself pushes public opinion towards the censorship route (so I see you edite the title now -_-). Also in the sources you posted it specifically says that sites like youtube will not be held liable if they act promptly to take away the copyrighted material. do I think it's all BS? hells ye, but it doesn't mean they're not wrong. piracy is stealing period, regardless of your philosophical views that music and games should be free. if somebody wants to charge for their product you don't have to buy it, but you shouldn't be stealing it either.
I think the videogame, music and movie industry need a new format to publish their media and need to be more open and fair in terms of pricing because thats whats allowed these peer to peer sharing sites to soar in popularity. people are just fed up with the bull**** prices of subpar products, ie CODMW3 and the fact that it cost 60 bucks while offering nothing new = complete ripoff, while you can get BF3 for less = heaven.
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The mw3 thing is frustrating me >.< mw3 is a great game: a full new campaign, new spec ops missions, a survival mode, 16 new maps and a refresh in terms of weapons etc, as well as countless improvements and fixs... im more tthan happy with my purchase, 60$ was fine...
As for piracy, i agree, high prices isnt an excuse for stealing but assuming that you own rights to text or music has always seems incredibly dumb to me... i write something and suddenly no one can ever write that again without consulting me??? **** no... i say that if you want to sell books or recordings, thats one thing but once it becomes illegal for someone to publicly perform a song because "i thought of it first", theres something really wrong here...
Then theres 1$ for a 4 minute loop of 4 chords and a juvenile melody line and a sung poem about love, loss or "the skeletons in my closet", "this life i regret", "the fingernails in my eyes"...
So what if i claimed rrights to love as aa topic for music.. can i sue all the music that talks about it???
To conclude my rant... if you cant protect it, its not yours; dont try to sell it and then abuse an incredibly idiotic system of law to strong-arm anyone who gets in your way.
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@dardani89
Yes, I changed the title because you were right. It was biased. You do make a good point.
However, YouTube censoring the material is pretty bad in itself. For example if someone makes a video with copyrighted music playing (even in the background) then either one of a few things would happen...
1. The video would be removed
2. The audio would be removed
3. The user will get banned
But if YouTube doesn't take action then it's at risk of being shutdown.
Also, it's not that part of the bill that truly bothers me. It's the part about generic drugs. Because in my opinion, that where it crosses the line.
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sopa and protect ip are retarded. it's just a bunch of inept politicians making ineffective policy about something they don't understand.
Hell, you didn't even cover the fact that if passed, it could alter the foundation of how the internet works for americans. other countries are threatening to actually cut us off if these bills pass into law(they are actually two separate proposals, looks like big business isnt taking any chances).
Also as far as I know or have read the offending sites are reachable you just have to find out thier ip address and type it in manually(or alter your hosts file)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1w6GtwOvnWM
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Hell, you didn't even cover the fact that if passed, it could alter the foundation of how the internet works for americans. other countries are threatening to actually cut us off if these bills pass into law(they are actually two separate proposals, looks like big business isnt taking any chances).
Also as far as I know or have read the offending sites are reachable you just have to find out thier ip address and type it in manually(or alter your hosts file)
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There's a video that talks briefly about the bill changing the internet's foundation and reaching the site by knowing it's IP address: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLYgs0xMDm0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1w6GtwOvnWM
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Watched that video earlier today. Very catchy song.
I havent read the part about this bill banning generic drugs but if thats the case then I highly doubt it will pass with that text included. Generic drugs are one of the facets of the medical system that keeps medicare prices from getting higher than they would be. Imagine the government paying brand name prices for millions of seniors on blood pressure/heart/cholesterol medication, it would be so absurd that it would automatically bankrupt the government with an insane automatic increase of healthcare spending. remember that entitlement programs rise in cost due to self regulating formulas, not through legislators. So with that text in the bill and the budgetary mindset right now, I doubt any serious legislator would support a ban in generic drugs. Let alone the popular opinion that would rip it apart in a matter of days.
As Nilay Patel said on TWIT: It's a terrible solution to a real problem.
Down with SOPA
http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/megaupload_seizure/?source=fb
Just thought people should know!
I find it very entertaining it occurred the day after the SOPA blackout protests. Anonymous seems to have taken a jump on it too and taken down the DOJ's site and some major record sites as well.
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I find it very entertaining it occurred the day after the SOPA blackout protests. Anonymous seems to have taken a jump on it too and taken down the DOJ's site and some major record sites as well.
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Anonymous is ex government officials best believe, they always seem to be on top of everything
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I'm glad it was shut down. Everyone uses that garbage site to host files and the download speeds were horrid not to mention the waiting times and ads.
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Seeing this in the news really set me off.
There are plenty of worse hosts out there.
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WOW. That is BS... I cannot believe it. What site is next? This is PURE CRAP. And I did not prefer this site but sometimes it worked to get what I needed. F The Government. I thought in H.S. over 20 years ago we would of had a civil war due to the goverment. I thought after all this time we had passed that point. But HOW the goverment and the obama admin is taking away our rights and what we are used to I can see it happening at some point as this crap continues....
Just saying, MegaVideo is down, too.
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Just saying, MegaVideo is down, too.
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They are the same site...
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WOW. That is BS... I cannot believe it. What site is next? This is PURE CRAP. And I did not prefer this site but sometimes it worked to get what I needed. F The Government. I thought in H.S. over 20 years ago we would of had a civil war due to the goverment. I thought after all this time we had passed that point. But HOW the goverment and the obama admin is taking away our rights and what we are used to I can see it happening at some point as this crap continues....
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We don't have a right to steal the IP of others. While I do not want more government in my life, the problem of piracy is very real and one that is getting worse with each generation. The ease with which we can do it has caused whole generations of kids to grow up with no respect for the property of others. All they understand is that if they can download it, they can do with it as they please. They have almost no concept of what IP and copyright are. Something has to be done not just to protect companies from unscrupulous Americans with entitlement attitudes, but from countries like China that are stealing billions from us with no controls whatsoever. Piracy costs us all in some way.
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We don't have a right to steal the IP of others. While I do not want more government in my life, the problem of piracy is very real and one that is getting worse with each generation. The ease with which we can do it has caused whole generations of kids to grow up with no respect for the property of others. All they understand is that if they can download it, they can do with it as they please. They have almost no concept of what IP and copyright are. Something has to be done not just to protect companies from unscrupulous Americans with entitlement attitudes, but from countries like China that are stealing billions from us with no controls whatsoever. Piracy costs us all in some way.
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well put!
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We don't have a right to steal the IP of others. While I do not want more government in my life, the problem of piracy is very real and one that is getting worse with each generation. The ease with which we can do it has caused whole generations of kids to grow up with no respect for the property of others. All they understand is that if they can download it, they can do with it as they please. They have almost no concept of what IP and copyright are. Something has to be done not just to protect companies from unscrupulous Americans with entitlement attitudes, but from countries like China that are stealing billions from us with no controls whatsoever. Piracy costs us all in some way.
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THIS^^^ Just because they did some proper services such as file hosting, they should not be allowed to pirate. One thing has nothing to do with the other. Sharing free information is one thing selling stolen info is quite the other
I dont think there will ever be a way to stop piracy. Sure they may make it harder but dont think it will ever stop. Just my 2 cents.
There is a difference between stopping piracy and giving our government the ability to police the internet in this fashion. If you give them an inch they're gonna take a mile. This is not communist China, it's the FREE USA. Do not give our government this power.
I have no quims about shutting it down if they are guilty. My thing is if they can do this without sopa, and they can, what is the need for sopa? It's just for the government to have more power as they see fit. F*ing lobbyist! More reason to fight sopa.
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Have you guys ever noticed that all the devs on the i9100 section here use MegaUpload? That **** used to piss me off. Why use such a crappy service when you can easily host it on Dropbox for free and much more easily.
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There is a difference between stopping piracy and giving our government the ability to police the internet in this fashion. If you give them an inch they're gonna take a mile. This is not communist China, it's the FREE USA. Do not give our government this power.
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Very true!
MegaUpload, like other filesharing websites, had no control over what users upload. They also complied with DMCA takedown notices.
So, the actual story behind the Megaupload thing had to do with the Megaupload song they posted, sang by people like Will.I.Am, Kanye West, and some others. What ended up happening was the record company that owned some of these singers, Universal Music Group or w/e, was pissed off and demanded the song be removed off Youtube and it was just going back and forth for a while. In the end, they really took action against Megaupload and now that's why they're currently down. The real war isn't between the artists and people downloading music, it's between the record companies who are apparently being retarded and abusing their power or w/e.
http://torrentfreak.com/universal-censors-megaupload-song-gets-branded-a-rogue-label-111210/
http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/01/20/swizz-beatz-and-the-mystery-of-megaupload/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204616504577171060611948408.html?KEYWORDS=megaupload
if people stopped putting out bad movies, music, and games then I wouldn't pirate so much. who protects my money when I don't like what I paid for? I buy records of music I like and have over 600. I keep a long list of movies I like for a future shelf filled with 100s of them. I'm in school and making 12k per year. I pirate everything. we don't have imax, arthouse theaters, or good music here. I have to drive 6 hours out then back for a good time. if some rich person can't afford to keep their planes, boats, second and onward homes, and lot of cars - I will not lose sleep. we don't need anti piracy. we need quality control and bigger paychecks.
Obviously its illegal to distribute apps that have a price attached to them in the Google Market, my question is in regards to using such an app?...would I be breaking the law by using such an app solely for my own use? Considering how easy it is to get hold of these sorts of apps compared to Apple apps, I don't want to say that its normal or right to do such a thing.
Yeah its just as bad to use them because you're pretty much stealing
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Piracy laws depend on the country. In a lot of countries, distributing piracy is an offence (fines, community service), making profit from the distribution of pirated goods is a serious offence (many years in jail), pirating a particular good is also an offence, but owning piracy isn't (they must prove you pirated the good in the first place).
Not sticking my head up for piracy, but its actually different from stealing (morally and legally different).
Stealing means you took something from someone without their consent, the good changed hands (it was someone else's, now its yours).
Piracy is for intellectual property, which doesn't change hands. By downloading free mp3 I'm not taking the song away from the songwriter, for example. Piracy is the illegal act of copying, distributing, and/or selling copyrighted material without the author's consent. That's why its called copyrighted, just some people have the right to copy it, and this is generally what you pay for, the right to copy.
Hence why I said 'pretty much' stealing
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