Hey everybody,
Since flashing 3.14.605.10 firmware my phone has been pretty hot. Also, the battery life has been absolutely terrible. Should I flash back to an older radio (even though the radios i am using ended up being the ones used in OTA)? And if that is what I should try, is there a link to the next latest radio? I am newly s-off so i assume i just use a PH98IMG file with only the radio.img in it? Not sure what to try so any suggestions would be great!
altvisionx said:
Hey everybody,
Since flashing 3.14.605.10 firmware my phone has been pretty hot. Also, the battery life has been absolutely terrible. Should I flash back to an older radio (even though the radios i am using ended up being the ones used in OTA)? And if that is what I should try, is there a link to the next latest radio? I am newly s-off so i assume i just use a PH98IMG file with only the radio.img in it? Not sure what to try so any suggestions would be great!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You already have the latest radios but the heat is most likely a kernel problem I've heard you can fastboot flash the kernel from 3.14.605.7 ruu that should fix it. Some devices are just heaters! Lol which hurts battery life since the phone is wasting energy by heating up. I've personally never had that problem
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
Try flashing the 3.13 kernel. You can download it from nils' thread, the sense 3.6 one. I was having the same problem, but I flashed that kernel two days ago, so far the heat levels are down and even battery life is better.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
Related
After rooting my Thunderbolt I'm having the random reboot issue. I've read several threads using google, but none really specify a fix. I haven't done anything to the phone since rooting it, so my radio/rom are still the same. Phone rebooted three times yesterday during casual usage.
Any ideas?
Menu, setting, about phone, baseband version. What's it say on there under baseband version?
Do you know how to use ADB?
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA Premium App
1.16.00.0402w_1
Yes. Well, however much one gets familiarized by rooting.
Seems like we found the problem to your reboots. Flash the newest radio.
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?1240-RADIO-LEAK-New-MR2-Release-Radio-1.39.00.0627r
Be sure your rom supports the radio most new gb bamf and CM7 mr2 version support the radio. Flash rom in recovery then radio. The radio can not be flashed in recovery. Using adb type in adb reboot bootloader and go into fastboot and install it.
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA Premium App
ddgarcia05 said:
Seems like we found the problem to your reboots. Flash the newest radio.
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?1240-RADIO-LEAK-New-MR2-Release-Radio-1.39.00.0627r
Be sure your rom supports the radio most new gb bamf and CM7 mr2 version support the radio. Flash rom in recovery then radio. The radio can not be flashed in recovery. Using adb type in adb reboot bootloader and go into fastboot and install it.
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah, I see. Is this the "MR2" radio? And, is it only the new OTA update that will brick your phone if you flash it over a rooted phone?
I've been looking through roms trying to find the closest thing to what I have now. When I make up my mind I'll flash a new rom and then upgrade the radio.
I'll post my results.
Thank you for your help.
Do you want to froyo (android 2.2) or gingerbread (2.3)? The new radio i linked doesn't brick phones. Its an official radio not a leaked radio which caused the bricks a while back.
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA Premium App
I've had trouble deciding. Part of me wants to stick to Froyo because I'm not sure what Gingerbread really does. Are there any glaring differences that make it worth upgrading to GB?
GB offers more eye candy and bragging rights to say you're rocking the latest android OS. Otherwise, no real benefits over froyo. Some ppl say froyo roms have slightly better battery life, but that is debatable.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA App
Bricks are result of user error or hardware. Period. You will not brick from flashing a radio unless you screw it up.
courtesy of my rooted bolt
ILMF said:
Bricks are result of user error or hardware. Period. You will not brick from flashing a radio unless you screw it up.
courtesy of my rooted bolt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I read somewhere that if you flash the leaked OTA update over a rooted TB it would brick it. Not sure if the page was reliable or if things have changed since then.
Dont flash the whole ota update. Most developers will include the update into there custom rom minus the radio. The latest ota mainly addressed the reboot issue and horrible battery life.
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA Premium App
ddgarcia05 said:
Dont flash the whole ota update. Most developers will include the update into there custom rom minus the radio. The latest ota mainly addressed the reboot issue and horrible battery life.
Sent from my ThunderBolt using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will do.
I appreciate everyone's input. I will probably flash in the next day or so.
I'll follow up with how things turn out.
Flashed the new BAMF Sense 3.0 RC4.9 last night along with the new radio that was recommended. So far so good. No random reboots although I haven't been in a spot in town where the radio alternates between 3G/4G yet like before. I'll be able to fully test at that point.
Sweet ROM so far!
Thanks to all for the valuable info.
Edit 3: Well more news. I have found that it's a problem with OTA and the new base with ICS builds. Seems like the cpu settings aren't wanting to stick at all. It's min/max is set at 100%. Disabling Perflock with Antutu and Setcpu seem to not be working as well. I saw on a different forum that someone else was having this same problem and was suggested to flash BAMF's new sense boot img. This unfortunately did nothing. Am and two other people only having this issue? If so, man i'm unlucky
So I ran the OTA from Con247's thread here And now I am having crazy issues:
Code:
1) Battery is overheating like crazy. Staying at 114F consistently
2) Had the "Dead Battery + CWM" issue like seen [URL="forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1489687"]here[/URL]
Now I have resolved the second issue, pain in the ass but solved. I was wondering if anyone had any advice for the first problem? Or if running an older RUU I'm thinking RUU_Vigor_VERIZON_WWE_1.02.605.6_Radio_RS_0.95.00.1013r_3161E_9K_NV_8k_1.12_9k_1.83_V_APT_release_221502_signed.exe
Any issues with going back? Is it even possible? This is a good arguement for having S-off so I can flash whatever I want. Thanks for the help!
Edit1: After further testing I have found that I can run GB with the battery hovering around 88F-92F while doing nothing and about 94F-96F while syncing. (Just flashed CleanROM GBE 1.7.5 for testing) Stock (from RUU) is running cool at 82F-86F
Edit2: Can anyone also give me some insight to normal battery temperatures? OC, stock, Heavy Use w/4g, Heavy Use Wifi, Screenoff... ect.)
My experience was similar. I think something in the OTA kernel is eating battery and causing heat. When I used that same process it didn't work quite right for me. I ended up RUUing to the latest official build and that helped some. Con's process does update your boot loader though and the old RUU will see that and fail. Your mainver should be updated too... So that can cause problems going back too.
I went to an ICS from and that helped my overheat issue some. I recommend the RUU and checking out one of those . You should see some improvement.
a-jive said:
My experience was similar. I think something in the OTA kernel is eating battery and causing heat. When I used that same process it didn't work quite right for me. I ended up RUUing to the latest official build and that helped some. Con's process does update your boot loader though and the old RUU will see that and fail. Your mainver should be updated too... So that can cause problems going back too.
I went to an ICS from and that helped my overheat issue some. I recommend the RUU and checking out one of those . You should see some improvement.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So run the acutal RUU? The latest or an older version?
If you took the OTA, you have to run the latest RUU. 2.01.xxx.xx.
So it seems that running the older RUU wouldn't work because it detects your version and will tell you that you have a newer version.
There's a new tool from drellisdee that will change your mainver using a script.
HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1526316
So... I think you can use that and put yourself back to 1.x and run the 1.x RUU. You might want to check in that thread though. Also, I don't know for sure that it will revert your hboot and radios and such by running the older RUU or not. Worth a try though.
I also think I've read something about being able to revert the radios back to the original ones, not sure where that was though, and may have just been a post of someone else who thought it was possible.
Yeah good idea, I was thinking that too. I unfortunately cannot find an older RUU that isn't uploaded to FileFactory. Man that place is the worst. So what if every other uploader has shutdown in fear of persecution. And because of that they're severely overloaded. I need my RUU's dammit.
Can anyone also give me some insight to normal battery temperatures? OC, stock, Heavy Use w/4g, Heavy Use Wifi, Screenoff... ect.)
I mis spoke above... When I used Con's manual method it updated my HBOOT (not bootloader) which caused the 1. RUU to fail (I was using an older method to rewrite my mainver to 1.000.00.000, or whatever).
I used the newest official RUU which I found on football's sticky'd post in the dev section. If that's missing now let me know and I can hook you up the flash able RUU file.
As for norms, there a a few threads on the topic, but I usually max out at like 125 when playing games or surfing on 3G 4G. That's too hot IMO, but I saw 140 once playing GTA when I was in the same place you are now.
nolimit78 said:
Yeah good idea, I was thinking that too. I unfortunately cannot find an older RUU that isn't uploaded to FileFactory. Man that place is the worst. So what if every other uploader has shutdown in fear of persecution. And because of that they're severely overloaded. I need my RUU's dammit.
Can anyone also give me some insight to normal battery temperatures? OC, stock, Heavy Use w/4g, Heavy Use Wifi, Screenoff... ect.)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't know what to tell you. You can't run the older RUU even if you set your main version back. It will see the newer hboot and fail.
I did not change anything from the OTA update package. I just added root and turned it into a flashable rom. Any problems that you have are likely due the new radios or the new OTA rom itself. Alot of people have had back luck with the OTA rom and new radios/firmware. That is HTC's fault. All I did was simplify the install for rooted users.
con247 said:
Don't know what to tell you. You can't run the older RUU even if you set your main version back. It will see the newer hboot and fail.
I did not change anything from the OTA update package. I just added root and turned it into a flashable rom. Any problems that you have are likely due the new radios or the new OTA rom itself. Alot of people have had back luck with the OTA rom and new radios/firmware. That is HTC's fault. All I did was simplify the install for rooted users.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
con... I read a post by someone who thought you had a method to go back to the old radios... Was that incorrect?
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk
No I don't have one. It is not possible without S-OFF. Whoever posted that does not know what they are talking about.
con247 said:
Don't know what to tell you. You can't run the older RUU even if you set your main version back. It will see the newer hboot and fail.
I did not change anything from the OTA update package. I just added root and turned it into a flashable rom. Any problems that you have are likely due the new radios or the new OTA rom itself. Alot of people have had back luck with the OTA rom and new radios/firmware. That is HTC's fault. All I did was simplify the install for rooted users.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For the record, I wasn't hating on what you put together, I had an error during my first try, and once I got it to take something was just still off. I'm sure it was a user error!
a-jive said:
For the record, I wasn't hating on what you put together, I had an error during my first try, and once I got it to take something was just still off. I'm sure it was a user error!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am fully aware that you aren't hating lol... I was just making sure that you know that you would have had the same experience if you had installed from the RUU.
con247 said:
No I don't have one. It is not possible without S-OFF. Whoever posted that does not know what they are talking about.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I think they were mistaking what your Stock OTA ROM was for. Thanks for clarifying.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk
OP updated with more findings. Also I re-read some of what I posted. I wasn't trying to place any blame on any one. Especially con247. You've, from what I've been seeing, have been a huge help around the community and I meant no disrespect.
Also-- coming from the 3D forums have really made me post apologies just to make sure nothing is taken the wrong way. I don't want to piss anyone off and have them not participate anymore. Effin haters are driving devs from our forums..
i am having the same problem with new new radios and firmware. nothing i have tried has given me the good battery life and low temps i had before the new radios. i really want s-off or someway of flashing the old radios. i was even wondering if ou could add the radio from the old ota to the new leak ruu and trick it into flashing the old radios but i doubt that would work.
Try using Scotts super wipe tool and re flashing the ROM. That's what helped me, I think my manual wipes kept missing things and freaking my phone out. Also reinstall everything from the market, my experience with restoring backup apps on a new rom has caused problems. Anyway these are all just suggestions that have helped me! Good luck!
Edit: since doing the above steps my Rezound hardly ever goes above 100 unless I'm tethering on 4g. And my battery life is good enough to get me through the day on the stock battery
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA
Esandorf said:
Try using Scotts super wipe tool and re flashing the ROM. That's what helped me, I think my manual wipes kept missing things and freaking my phone out. Also reinstall everything from the market, my experience with restoring backup apps on a new rom has caused problems. Anyway these are all just suggestions that have helped me! Good luck!
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thanks I'm going to try them.
Sent from my HTC Rezound
nev310 said:
thanks I'm going to try them.
Sent from my HTC Rezound
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Scott is testing a new kernel in the dev forum to try and help address the issues if what I already suggested doesn't work, check it out!
Esandorf said:
Scott is testing a new kernel in the dev forum to try and help address the issues if what I already suggested doesn't work, check it out!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ive been trying the kernel he posted and I'm still haveing the same issues.
Sent from my ThinkPad Tablet using xda premium
The main reason I did not flash the leaked firmware is fear of the long process of going back or not really being used to flashing new firmware. Now that we have s-off is the process easier and if so what is it exactly?
EDIT: Also is there anything I'm missing by just flashing the patch for old firmware versus the upgrade itself...
From reading other posts, I don't believe that S-Off makes flashing firmware any easier. It just enables you to actually RUU back to an earlier version, which you could not do before. (Just be careful and follow steps other members have outlined in flashing back, especially if your 4G connectivity drops. Lots of threads on this issue.) That being said, I have not done S-Off myself (I haven't felt the risk was worth the reward yet), so I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
Unless you have some burning need to flash a new firmware, I would suggest against it. Some users have reported better signal and battery life, while many others have reported terrible battery life and overheating. I'm on the GB OTA firmware, and flashed CleanROM 4.2.2 with the old firmware patch. Based on other users' posts, ICS runs as well on my Rezound as those with updated firmware.
destro158 said:
From reading other posts, I don't believe that S-Off makes flashing firmware any easier. It just enables you to actually RUU back to an earlier version, which you could not do before. (Just be careful and follow steps other members have outlined in flashing back, especially if your 4G connectivity drops. Lots of threads on this issue.) That being said, I have not done S-Off myself (I haven't felt the risk was worth the reward yet), so I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.
Unless you have some burning need to flash a new firmware, I would suggest against it. Some users have reported better signal and battery life, while many others have reported terrible battery life and overheating. I'm on the GB OTA firmware, and flashed CleanROM 4.2.2 with the old firmware patch. Based on other users' posts, ICS runs as well on my Rezound as those with updated firmware.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool. That is exactly what I wanted to know thanks. Sounds like I'll be using the patch as well.
cstrife999 said:
Cool. That is exactly what I wanted to know thanks. Sounds like I'll be using the patch as well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The 4G issue has been resolved all thanks to a factory reset after you RUU. So the process of downgrading and upgrading RUU is very simple now. The only difference really is you will have newer radios.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using XDA
i ran the leaked ICS OTA on the old firmware for about two weeks. Then i tried out Joelz Evita ROM and had to flash the Sense4 firmware. I tried it for a few days but still too many bugs with it, so i restored the ICS leak, then rebooted into hboot and ran the new firmware. I think my signal, download speed and battery all are better now. I'm loving the leak. If the leak is this good, I cant wait for the final.
ok i rooted a friends rezound before i got mine as of yesterday and i put new leaked radios and new firmware and chingys ICS build rom but his battery liffe is horrid and he has a extended battery but a older phone he got his when they released
I just got mine and extended battery and i just rooted and S-offed mine and thats it and my battery life is amazing but its stock GB
Anyways with that being said he wants my setup so if i RUU him to my build GB will the RUU cover the firmware also or do i need to go get the old GB firmware ?? and i guess i would have to get the radios also right??
I guess what im asking does RUU's get firmware,rom,radios,recovery,bootloader or only a few??? and how do you tell what firmware version you are on?
RUU is one stop shopping. Everything you need will be in the RUU.
You are going to have to S-Off his phone though if it is not already done since the leaked radios and firmware are newer.
his phone is S-OFF so just getting it super straight
the 2.01.605.11 RUU will give him the rom,firmware,recovery,radios, all
AWESOME
Yep. Everything you need.
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda premium
haha, rule of thumb when your working on another android users phone, know how to get back before doing anything
but yeah, you need s-off and there are some guides after that on how to return
the battery life is only horrid when screen is on if you ask me, otherwise the deep sleep is much more effective than gingerbread
Just curious, if I'm s-off and can/have flashed new radio and kernel is there still any reason to install the latest and greatest ruu? Are there any other benefits? Maybe I'm missing something but the latest roms from our awesome devs are being rebased on the latest leaks...I just don't see why flashing a ruu is needed. If I'm wrong or missing something please let me know. Thanks in advance.
Sent from my Rezound
Nah its has the same fw as last one just few bug fixed in software level
I'm not saying specifically the last one, I mean in general as new ruus come out. If vzw doesn't eol us that is. Thanks though.
Sent from my Rezound
in term of battery life i would stick to gb fw
but u can ics with patch and still got nice battery life
I've been rooted day one and s-off from the first day it was available and running cleanrom ics. GB sucked with sense for the half a day I used it. This was just an overall general question of "what's the point" and i'm sure others had similar thoughts. I'd hate for anyone to run a ruu for no reason just to have to re-setup their "got it the way I want it" rom of choice.
Sent from my Rezound
If you're flashing the radio and perhaps hboot updates every time, probably not. I guess the good thing about the RUU is that you flash everything together in a package that is known with some certainty by the manufacturer to all play nice. You can always nandroid your custom ROM back on afterwards.
That said...I independently flashed hboot once or twice, and radio several times, on my old Incredible without incident. I've only done the RUU, and only one time, on the Rez.
bluetooth_decay said:
If you're flashing the radio and perhaps hboot updates every time, probably not. I guess the good thing about the RUU is that you flash everything together in a package that is known with some certainty by the manufacturer to all play nice. You can always nandroid your custom ROM back on afterwards.
That said...I independently flashed hboot once or twice, and radio several times, on my old Incredible without incident. I've only done the RUU, and only one time, on the Rez.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I've update the hboot with latest jb and flashed the latest radio and kernel, no issues thus far and all is well...so I conclude ruus are a waste unless that's what you want to roll with is stock
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app