before you go into sarcasm-mode and start posting lmgtfy links, I've read this and this, but I need more info.
So, what's to lose by unlocking my bootloader using the official method?
Unlocking with the Test Point didn't work and it's getting on my nerves. Every tutorial I've read, and every video I've watched, all followed step by step, word by word, didn't work for my phone, but that's not relevant now.
Most of the time people say TrackID and Gracenote Music Info services (which I can't use anyways) cease to work without DRM keys, but some members have reported otherwise. I don't use/buy/have DRM'd content so I'm not worried about that.
All in all, it seems I stand to lose nothing, and being able to flash whatever I want seems so damn worth a try.
eagerly waiting for your answers
ur ri8 dude!!!
INDEED THERE IS NOTHING TO LOSE AND UNLOCKING BY OFFICIAL METHOD IS FAR MORE SAFE AND EASY
Hell wid DRM Keys
Thanks for your input, bud :good:
However, due to a very restricted mobile data cap (no DSL/Cable here), I'll have to wait till tomorrow. Not because of the unlock procedure, it's just I don't have any custom ROM worth flashing at the moment, and most of them are 100mb+
Hopefully, more members will drop by and post some thoughts (yeah, thoughts, because there seems to be no end-all-be-all concensus on this).
Well i'll make also oficial one and after month of use still dont missing nothing.
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Try out cm10 with KrSH kernel
Enjoy d benefit of unlocking bootloader
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redij59 said:
Try out cm10 with KrSH kernel
Enjoy d benefit of unlocking bootloader
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This is my only "reliable" phone at the moment and I want it to stay that way, so CM10 remains a no-go until it's stable enough for a daily driver.
BTW, I don't feel like I'm missing anything from JB right now. Quite a bunch of it's new features are merely internet services (which sucks in my area). Don't care that much about Project Butter either 'cause my XMP is smooth enough already
Pixelado said:
before you go into sarcasm-mode and start posting lmgtfy links, I've read this and this, but I need more info.
So, what's to lose by unlocking my bootloader using the official method?
Unlocking with the Test Point didn't work and it's getting on my nerves. Every tutorial I've read, and every video I've watched, all followed step by step, word by word, didn't work for my phone, but that's not relevant now.
Most of the time people say TrackID and Gracenote Music Info services (which I can't use anyways) cease to work without DRM keys, but some members have reported otherwise. I don't use/buy/have DRM'd content so I'm not worried about that.
All in all, it seems I stand to lose nothing, and being able to flash whatever I want seems so damn worth a try.
eagerly waiting for your answers
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I believe there's at least a slight change of retaining your warranty if you unlock it via TP method, since you can relock it while still having DRM keys intact, where unlocking with official method, you leave significantly bigger footprint (SE site + no DRM keys), and there's no way Sony will cover any hardware damage to your phone afterwards.
And about TrackID, i never used it, and I consider it nothing more than a bloatware
Nothing but this
Hi budd
1st :: DRM and S*** like that I guess can be replaced with SoundHound or Shazam
2nd :: As for Warranty ,hmm ,I unlocked my XMP 30 minutes after I bought it:laugh: ,Warranty is only for software or Factory building Mistakes ,it does't cover any hardware damage if it's done by you (I don't know if this is the situation in your country),so no need to it(as you're gonna pay to have it fixed if it got broken) ,every software problem is fixable be flashing a stock .ftf
3rd :: The only concern is This
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But I think FlashTool Is more than Enough ,It can do the same functions as PC Companion and SUS ,and even have a lot more than that ,(+ a Log):good:
4th :: on the long term ,UnLocked Bootloader gives you a lot of Flexibility
Like U don't have to root after Flashing Stocks ,just flashing Kernels will do ,custom Kernels ,CWM ..... etc etc:victory:
Try Real ICS r5.2 with KrSH Kernel 3.0
Or Stock .431 firmware with MESA 1.6
These are great Mix I think:highfive:
Or you can Flash FXP-132
Happy UnLocking & Flashing
Now you can use trackID without any DRM on your phone. I agree with Un.Knowen trackID is garbage it could barely recognize my songs.
For my part I suggest real ICS lite r2 + KrSH Kernel V2! For stability and battery life
voyé dépi on ti SK17i!!
Pixelado said:
Unlocking with the Test Point didn't work and it's getting on my nerves. Every tutorial I've read, and every video I've watched, all followed step by step, word by word, didn't work for my phone, but that's not relevant now.
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I just last week used the test point method to unlock the bl of my Mini (ST15i). I was having a ton of issues and totally unable to go through with it using the tool under Windows 7 but when i booted into Windows XP, was able to accomplish it in the first go, so that's a consideration as well. I'd still recommend you give it one more shot but only for the following reason, not the DRM keys
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rahimali said:
I just last week used the test point method to unlock the bl of my Mini (ST15i). I was having a ton of issues and totally unable to go through with it using the tool under Windows 7 but when i booted into Windows XP, was able to accomplish it in the first go, so that's a consideration as well. I'd still recommend you give it one more shot but only for the following reason, not the DRM keys
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No matter what tho, flashtool always saves the day so really, no point. I mean one more go sure but if you run into problems then meh who cares more on to the official method.
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Hi budd
2nd :: As for Warranty ,hmm ,I unlocked my XMP 30 minutes after I bought it:laugh: ,Warranty is only for software or Factory building Mistakes ,it does't cover any hardware damage if it's done by you (I don't know if this is the situation in your country),so no need to it(as you're gonna pay to have it fixed if it got broken) ,every software problem is fixable be flashing a stock .ftf
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I disagree, i had hardware damage, got it repaired free of charge thanks to warranty.
Un.Knowen said:
Try Real ICS r5.2 with KrSH Kernel 3.0
Or Stock .431 firmware with MESA 1.6
These are great Mix I think:highfive:
Or you can Flash FXP-132
Happy UnLocking & Flashing
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Real ICS is basically stock rom with mods installed... I have already almost all of those mods installed on my stock rom Also, i believe you can install RealICS on device with locked bootloader.
Only reason i would ever consider unlocking bootloader would be to put better kernel (better: i would expect at least 20% performance boost, and longer battery life), or perhaps some bug-free version of JB
Keeping a locked bootloader just for the sake of using OTAs and official updates is just silly IMO. It's not like Sony delivers updates faster than this community does, right?
Well, screw DRM, I'll do it tonight
I used test point method with omnius during free easter holiday promotion.
Managed to do it myself. Don't be confused with no indication or visible sign that test point is pressed. Just connect dot and sim card holder, remove connection, plug phone and send unlock by program. (from my memory). That's it. Yes and drivers.
Now I'm free (unlocked bootloader) and DRM still there. Best combination.
You loose repair with pc companion or updater also.
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loCe45 said:
I disagree, i had hardware damage, got it repaired free of charge thanks to warranty.
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Well ,I was saying if your warranty is SoftWare Only (like me) ,then FlashTool Is all you need ,If it was Hardware (Not just Factory Mistakes) then it's worthy thinking about
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vr5411 said:
You loose repair with pc companion or updater also.
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No You Don't if you used Test.Point Method ,See the Picture I Attached Above
I took it from official sony blog
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Pixelado said:
It's not like Sony delivers updates faster than this community does, right?
Well, screw DRM, I'll do it tonight
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That Is the sweet of Android ,that It have a community Like this:good:
ViVa XDA:highfive:
any way ,try the Test.Point Method ,Make sure you Installed every Driver
PS : some times it just doesn't work ,shows error in s1tool
when that happens use another computer (Friend ,Relatives ,etc)or format yours
you need a system that doesn't have a previous installation of any sonys progs or s1tool
I think It's a Complicated Drivers Mix issue ,It faced this issue twice ,but any way I formated the system part of my Laptop and that solved the problem (FormatAholic + FlashAholic)
Oh ,See those Yummies :
Lasan Mods||Walkman Player||NXT apps||NXT For MDPI||Xperia S Fonts||Xperia S Home Launcher||Beats.By.Dre and sound Impovment
ps ;If you want to flash them all and got bootloop ,PM me (I figured how to do'em all)
Thank Every Contributor for their contributions:good:
By the Way ,Thanks For The Links in your signature Pixelado
Well, I'm free now
Running Rage kernel v3.2. I don't think I'll go full-force with custom ROMs though.
Pixelado said:
Well, I'm free now
Running Rage kernel v3.2. I don't think I'll go full-force with custom ROMs though.
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Congratulations Mate
Good for you
thanks.
BTW I already have most of the mods you listed (or at least some similar alternatives), but I feel like I could use a new dialing screen
What if I unlock my bootloader with sony and for some reason I need the warranty, then I relock bootloader. What will happen if I send it to the store?
amnher said:
What if I unlock my bootloader with sony and for some reason I need the warranty, then I relock bootloader. What will happen if I send it to the store?
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The store will repair it under warranty...
And after relocking the bootloader... Your warranty will be back
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First I'm not noob (look how much posts I have),horewer I found most topics for Xperian Mini so if someone could give links to topics how to unlock bootloader and root.
Thanks,XperianPro.
EDIT:It's my 1111 post!
Here u go Bro .
Unlocked Boot loader : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
Root : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346198
AcreaperJB said:
Here u go Bro .
Unlocked Boot loader : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
Root : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346198
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Already tryed rooting and didnt work and bootloader unlock will try later.
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same here I've developed for galaxy 3 and can't find anything usefull for this phone since its all MINI/PRO/Active
Also did anyone test bootloader unlock on Xperia Live?
How come none of you realised that Mini/MiniPro/Active/Live ARE THE SAME INTERNALLY?
All of these ways to root, unlock bootloaders etc. are almost universal amongst these devices.
If you want to unlock the Bootloader you either do it the Sony Ericsson way by going to their site, Or you do it the Test Point way.
Sony Ericsson way: http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
Test Point: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
Location of the Test Point on the Live:
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I honestly expected more of members with more than a double digit on their post count. You don't need to be a developer to be resourceful :S
dumraden said:
How come none of you realised that Mini/MiniPro/Active/Live ARE THE SAME INTERNALLY?
All of these ways to root, unlock bootloaders etc. are almost universal amongst these devices.
If you want to unlock the Bootloader you either do it the Sony Ericsson way by going to their site, Or you do it the Test Point way.
Sony Ericsson way: http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/
Test Point: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285285
Location of the Test Point on the Live:
I honestly expected more of members with more than a double digit on their post count. You don't need to be a developer to be resourceful :S
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so what you are saying is i can flash a MINI ROM on my Live?
Sure you can. You will most probably end with a fixed landscape though, like i did with my Active when i tried to flash a Mini Pro rom for the lulz.
Most mods and fixes especially between Mini/Active/Live are interchangable. If you check the Themes and Apps subforum you will see that most mods are for all the "mini's", or at least compatible with them.
Plus making a Rom for the Live is pretty easy. Just download dsixda's Kitchen. Unpack the FTF file and retrieve system.sin . Convert it into .img with SIN2IMG ( to be honest that was the biggest pain in the ass, to find a SIN2IMG that wouldn't go fubar on me). And you're done!
If you have been using dsixda's kitchen before its pretty much straightforward. If you want some links just PM me.
dumraden said:
Sure you can. You will most probably end with a fixed landscape though, like i did with my Active when i tried to flash a Mini Pro rom for the lulz.
Most mods and fixes especially between Mini/Active/Live are interchangable. If you check the Themes and Apps subforum you will see that most mods are for all the "mini's", or at least compatible with them.
Plus making a Rom for the Live is pretty easy. Just download dsixda's Kitchen. Unpack the FTF file and retrieve system.sin . Convert it into .img with SIN2IMG ( to be honest that was the biggest pain in the ass, to find a SIN2IMG that wouldn't go fubar on me). And you're done!
If you have been using dsixda's kitchen before its pretty much straightforward. If you want some links just PM me.
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thanks this really helps, i just can't seem to figure out the unlock bootloader, whats with the paperclip thing someone got a video tut or pic i dont get it.
It's no secret that the Live/Mini/Mini pro/Active/Ray had the same chipset but it doesn't hurt to double check since not all of them hv the same Camera/Display. It beats having to not double check and end up bricking ur phone. But Thnx 4 pointing it out bro
All i did was strip a cable on both ends, one long one short. Wrap the long part around a needle, and the short part on the Ground of the phone. ( i think its the middle single metal). Then all you have to do is what you are being told in s1tool. Its pretty easy. I had goosebumps when i first tried it but its a lot easier than it seems.
dumraden said:
Sure you can. You will most probably end with a fixed landscape though, like i did with my Active when i tried to flash a Mini Pro rom for the lulz.
Most mods and fixes especially between Mini/Active/Live are interchangable. If you check the Themes and Apps subforum you will see that most mods are for all the "mini's", or at least compatible with them.
Plus making a Rom for the Live is pretty easy. Just download dsixda's Kitchen. Unpack the FTF file and retrieve system.sin . Convert it into .img with SIN2IMG ( to be honest that was the biggest pain in the ass, to find a SIN2IMG that wouldn't go fubar on me). And you're done!
If you have been using dsixda's kitchen before its pretty much straightforward. If you want some links just PM me.
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Here's a SIN2IMG tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=952732
AcreaperJB said:
It's no secret that the Live/Mini/Mini pro/Active/Ray had the same chipset but it doesn't hurt to double check since not all of them hv the same Camera/Display. It beats having to not double check and end up bricking ur phone. But Thnx 4 pointing it out bro
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Well "bro", you wont end up bricking your phone. As long as you have a working Fastboot you're gonna be just fine. Even if you screw up fastboot ( i dont know how that can happen) all you have to do is a rescue on the Flashtool, in order to revert to the locked bootloader and start all over again.
About the SIN2IMG... I have tried over 7 different SIN2IMG.exe's Most of them failed. I couldnt even bother with compiling the sin2img on linux. I have a working one for Windows7 x64, but i need to find it in the mess i have made of my files
This one says it works specifically for xperias.. but haven't tried it yet so i'll try
last thing I'm asking how the hell do i get the sticker off without damaging it? and put it on the right place of course
oh what are the chances that it fails
I recommend the SE website method mostly bcuz you can re-lock the bootloader with this method after unlocking and its much simpler in my opinion
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I recommend the SE website method mostly bcuz you can re-lock the bootloader with this method after unlocking and its much simpler in my opinion
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ok but you need to give your Imei (SE method ) and if its bricked you can't go to service center or am i wrong, how can you relock it btw?
If its Bricked you can Flash with with the SE Flasher tool method ( search if interested )
Here's the link for the Re-lock bootloader http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1134335
ok i unlocked it now where can i get the stock roms just in case and how do i need to install cyanogenmod?
FXP050 - REQURES SEMC 4.0.2.A.0.42 rom ?
so i need to downgrade?
Flash this with the Flashtool when ready
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343529
And use this for the FXP Rom
http://hotfile.com/dl/132985913/55726f8/Xperia_Live_(WT19i)_4.0.2.A.0.42_UA.ftf.7z.html
Please, forgive if this post does not go here, sorry!!!
I have a Sony Live Walkman that I bought without any phone company in between. (Sorry my English doesn't help, don't know the exact term for that).
I checked, and it says that it is allowed to unlock bootloader.
But my question is, what is the benefit in my case? I don't have any garbage from any company loaded on my phone, the loader image is from Sony.
I can't grasp really well why is there the need to unlock bootloader. I'm new to Sony, I just had a LG - and the only concern was to ROOT and nothing else.
My Sony is rooted already. Do I need to unlock bootloader? (I'm just repeating myself a lot, lol) - and let's supossed I do unlock it: what happens? what new things I can/cannot do/break/etc?
Thanks a lot in advance for any info you could provide me, I learnt a lot in these last months, and with this Sony things are.... different....
Kisses
Unlocking bootloader lets you install custom kernels and ROMs. If you do it via official way, you lose your guarantee and your DRM keys, that means you will not be able to use TrackID and some other little features. If you patch it via unofficial way (test point method) you lose nothing. Anyway, if you don't intend to change your ROM, don't unlock it
Sorry that I'm a bit slow , but what is the "unofficial way" to do it?
I don't plan to install any custom ROM, but would like to try some new Kernel - and I believe I have to unlock bootloader for that?
I managed to root without unlock it, I wish I could flash a new kernel the same way
Unfortunately, you can't flash custom kernels without unlocking the bootloader. Check THIS thread, you'll find useful information
Well the unofficial way will allow you to keep your drm information and you will be able to keep using the track id app. here is a video of the method you need to follow to unlock it the unofficial way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgYAZoqsk9E, the video it's from fast gsm but it is the basic procedure of the test point method the only difference it's the software you will use and of course that it is free.
Thanks guys, very useful info. Just one last thing, cause one of your responses confused me:
The official method will let me flash Kernel
the UN official method won't
is that right?
Thanks again, promise I'll read all those articles now.
any method will let you flash a custom kernel the only difference is that using the official method you will lose your drm (digital rights management) for protected music, the usage of the track id app and any way of officially update your phone (over the air, ppc or sus) and using the unofficial way (test point method) you will keep the drm, track id and you will be able to update your phone using ppc or sus.
ginryu said:
any method will let you flash a custom kernel the only difference is that using the official method you will lose your drm (digital rights management) for protected music, the usage of the track id app and any way of officially update your phone (over the air, ppc or sus) and using the unofficial way (test point method) you will keep the drm, track id and you will be able to update your phone using ppc or sus.
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Perfectly clear.
Thanks a bunch!
Perfectly welcome!
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.
The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?
I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
Did official method also.
It is much more simple, just on the computer.
You will loose the track id feature, never used it anyway.
ChicaAndroid said:
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.
The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?
I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
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Lol... I just tried via test point method, and you know what? Only thing I couldn't do is remove that damn layer covering the test point...
I gave up u.u
ChicaAndroid said:
Well, I been finally reading about this unlocking booloader stuff.
The so called " via unofficial way (test point method)" looks very complicated, like I could really break something. I mean, wires? Needles?
I think I will go for the official way., even if i don't like the idea.
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do it if u really use it atmost.
i think u wish to install custom kernel right?? but not custom rom!! most of the custom kernels support only custom roms only few support stock.
well at the end it's up to you but the test point it's not really that complicated i did it with a paperclip jejeje
ginryu said:
well at the end it's up to you but the test point it's not really that complicated i did it with a paperclip jejeje
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I'm sure of that... but I haven't found a way to uncover the test point yet, lol
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.
The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.
Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.
I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.
The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too....
Feanor88 said:
I'm sure of that... but I haven't found a way to uncover the test point yet, lol
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The trick is to use a hair dryer to take out the back stick (under the battery) and then you will find the tp I posted a video before.
ChicaAndroid said:
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.
The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.
Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.
I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.
The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too....
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Girl I think I told you before that you can pm if you needed anything right?
ginryu said:
The trick is to use a hair dryer to take out the back stick (under the battery) and then you will find the tp I posted a video before.
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Mmm... Ill try
But does it return to its place once I've finished, or will I have to use glue?
I know, weird question
Feanor88 said:
Mmm... Ill try
But does it return to its place once I've finished, or will I have to use glue?
I know, weird question
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Nah it's not weird i was felling the same way but no you don't have to use glue it will stick back alone, just do it with ease ok??
ChicaAndroid said:
Oh well, I may be a bit slow - but couldn't do it. Any method.
The test one, I tried, but could understand the dynamics with the program, and got lost.
Te official one, couldn't follow the instruccione given on the Sony site. All those commands (fastload.exe bla bla bla) didn't work, and the Pc never asked for any driver.
I only hope someone could upload a guide step by step, that would be wonderful.
The guys that did the step by step for rooting ICS was just genius - if he could only do this too....
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its for u... test point method with detailed discription and video.. go with this LINK
Hello everyone.
I tried rooting my Xperia ray today using this guide: http://mytechencounters.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/root-your-xperia-phone-without-voiding-warranty/
Bear with me, you might find all of this tedious to read. My phone came with GB 2.3.4 build .62 which is hard to root. So as the above guide directed, I downloaded a .42 build firmware, CE(Central Europe perhaps? I don't know) and tried to flash it using flashtool. I disconnected the phone from the PC in between. My phone wouldn't boot. Then I used SUS and updated it to ICS, making the phone work. I then flashed it to GB .42 patiently, and with success. Alas, problems started immediately. Many processes such as media, calender storage, acro etc came up as stopped working. Even after selecting force close they would keep appearing. I cleared the respective cache/data and the notifications stopped. Then I rooted it using Doomlord's toolkit, and updated to .62 via OTA, keeping my root. A few things have changed. The keyboard name is the same, International keyboard, but it is different and I don't like it. Camera is not working. Screen goes blank if I open the camera. Messaging does not work and the messaging app crashes as soon as I open it. No contacts are found, despite importing them again. (They all show up when using the import from SIM option, it says importing is done but they are nowhere to be found). I called someone manually. While calling his name shows up but my contacts is completely blank. Google search is not working and it crashes too. There might be other problems, but I haven't checked. Anything in particular to check? Please help me solve all these issues. I'm glad my phone is rooted now, but it's next to useless due to all this. Please help me.
Great. Even the screen unlock security seems to not work. No slide to unlock. No pattern unlock even though I saved a pattern. I press the power button, the phone just shows the home. No security. How do I fix all this? PC Companion? SUS? And I don't want ICS so I won't use them if that's what they're going to update my phone to rather than fix it.
Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
mihahn said:
Do a complete wipe data/factory reset or flash .42 again, if this won't work take it to a service center cause it's a hardware issue
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
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No problem, hope it's going well now :good:
1. Overclocking can destroy your phone/phone's hardware. I've never overclocked and I wouldn't do it...
2. DRM are not important and trackid should work with the latest version. Not sure about timescape, maybe with an updated version it works
3. You can just keep your warranty by unlocking with testpoint method. Here is a great tutorial and sony won't notice it, only when your phone is bricked up
But testpoint is just working until a specific build number of the hardware, it should be mentioned somewhere in the thread!
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Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
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Alright, thanks. I've decided to not unlock the bootloader, because all I wanted to do was overclock but I guess that's harmful.
Another side not: Have you bought an Xperia Sola yet? I read that you wanted to
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Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
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Nope, after unlocking my bootloader and having Android 4.2.1 on phone I don't need a sola anymore. I would go for a Nexus 4, or in future for another nexus device :good:
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Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
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Android 4.2.1? Oh just saw your sig you have CM 10.1. I've heard that Android 4.0 and above versions don't work well on 2011 Xperia devices.
How's it running? Is it better than the stock GB ROM? How's the gaming performance? If that's fine, I might install the ROM in the near future. Also, do you use Chainfire 3D? V6 Supercharger? Any other apps that enhance performance? Sorry for asking so many questions
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For me it's better than gingerbread, but I don't often play games on phone, only somteims, but the games are going well :good:
The rom is only for unlocked bootloader and I didn't upload, but another member in development section did
No I'm not using any mods or tweaks, just sd maid to clean my sd sometimes, but jellybean is running smooth without any tweaks
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Oh my God. Yet again, a small step proved to be highly useful. I can't thank you enough! :good::good::good::good::good::good:
Side note: I'm thinking about unlocking my bootloader, mainly for installing a custom kernel to overclock and probably for using custom ROMs in the future. I know that I will lose my DRM, so I can't run trackid and timescape. What else wont I be able to run? Is DRM that important? Can I unlock the bootloader with a method that will keep my warranty? Thanks in advance.
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I think you have gotten a lot of good advice from Mihahn and I just wanted to add some suggestions before you unlock your bootloader...you probably want to get comfortable working with CWM Recovery. It has been a while since I did this on GB but there are a bunch of tools that you can use to put recovery onto GB stock roms and a good place to start is this thread in Ray Dev: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426912
Also before you decide you just gotta have a certain ROM, take a good look at the OP for the ROM....there may be something not working correctly that would be a deal breaker for you....there are some features that only work properly on a stock based ROM. This is particularly true of the Jelly Bean 4.2 build for the Ray....the 4.1 ROMs are working pretty good.....but if you absolutely love the sony camera app then you have to stay on a stock ROM.
Have fun!
Hi guys,
What is the best way to root this beautiful device? Currently my Z Ultra is using stock rom, I'm happy with it but I want to root so I can add on a few things like App 2 SD, titanium backup etc with the possibility of maybe adding on a ROM once development kicks off for Sony Z Ultra Roms.
When I had my Note 2, I backed up the EFS with the rooting tool as I was told this was where all my IMEI and serial were housed in case the device got bricked - Therefore, I want to find out what the same kind of thing with the Z ultra is. I've heard that you should back up the TA partition but that's for the Bravia engine keys if I'm not mistaken? Will that also backup the IMEI and any other important bits of info like the serial?
Long story short, I want to know what the safest way to root is please and how I can backup all the neccessary things so that if God forbid my device does get bricked etc, I can go back and still have a fully functional device.
Thanks all
HamzaB
well..there is no need to write another four pages long explanation and guide. Everything you need to know is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446502
And some more good reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428590
And please scroll through the forum and read the other threads
It's safe. Use vRoot, and it'll be over after 10 seconds. It's also almost impossible to hard brick it unless you throw it into a volcano or something. You might soft brick it, like I did last week, but it's simple to get it up and running again.
One question though. Are you currently running firmware version 532 or 257?
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It's safe. Use vRoot, and it'll be over after 10 seconds. It's also almost impossible to hard brick it unless you throw it into a volcano or something. You might soft brick it, like I did last week, but it's simple to get it up and running again.
One question though. Are you currently running firmware version 532 or 257?
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..lol yeah I forgot to mention the 257 firmware :silly: hmm I haven't bricked mine yet but its good to know flashtool will recover the phone from almost about anything
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It's safe. Use vRoot, and it'll be over after 10 seconds. It's also almost impossible to hard brick it unless you throw it into a volcano or something. You might soft brick it, like I did last week, but it's simple to get it up and running again.
One question though. Are you currently running firmware version 532 or 257?
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Since this thread has already been stared...i am on a c6806 with the i think 257 update ....can i use vroot as well ?
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..lol yeah I forgot to mention the 257 firmware :silly: hmm I haven't bricked mine yet but its good to know flashtool will recover the phone from almost about anything
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That is, everything except for volcano drops. Or can it? To the lab! Hawaii!
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Since this thread has already been stared...i am on a c6806 with the i think 257 update ....can i use vroot as well ?
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From everything that I have read on this forum, VRoot does NOT appear to work with .257.
The only way to root .257 at the moment seems to be to revert to .532, root it, and then use a root-keeper while you do an OTA upgrade to .257.
that's correct, and you can revert your firmware without unlocking your bootloader, which doesn't void your warranty too. yay to sony
I promise you it's easier than you think.
It's also very easy to recover your phone. I got a couple bootloops and then I did something so my navbar disappeared.
I just re-flashed .352 -> 257 and that was that.
I love how easy it is.
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It's safe. Use vRoot, and it'll be over after 10 seconds. It's also almost impossible to hard brick it unless you throw it into a volcano or something. You might soft brick it, like I did last week, but it's simple to get it up and running again.
One question though. Are you currently running firmware version 532 or 257?
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one sec Vroot is working again ?
avetny said:
one sec Vroot is working again ?
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Not for 257, pretty sure he meant for 352?
SweFox said:
Not for 257, pretty sure he meant for 352?
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got it. Thanks
SÜPERUSER said:
well..there is no need to write another four pages long explanation and guide. Everything you need to know is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446502
And some more good reading
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428590
And please scroll through the forum and read the other threads
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Thank you for your reply and everyone else who replied.
I will follow the vroot method as someone mentioned on this thread, however, I've read to backup TA partition to backup DRM Bravia keys or something, however, how can I backup things like IMEI/Serial etc (things that were kept on EFS on Note devices)
Thanks
READ THIS FIRST
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Ah, wow. Thanks for that. Literally an hour away from rooting.
What other methods can i use?
EDIT: What is the difference between unlocking and locking bootloader?
hamzab said:
Ah, wow. Thanks for that. Literally an hour away from rooting.
What other methods can i use?
EDIT: What is the difference between unlocking and locking bootloader?
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I'm not sure. I think there was an alternative, albeit much longer and complicated rooting guide back on 475 or something (that should still work on 532?). The rooting scene ain't pretty from now on. We don't have any other "one click root" solutions at the moment, so we're properly f*****, unless you want to give the vRoot people your information, like a lot of us have already done
The difference between unlocked bootloader and locked bootloader is that the unlocked bootloader is unlocked. Just kidding. I literally just unlocked my bootloader, and it allows me to install Recovery and flash custom ROMs like CM, PAC-ROM, PA etc. You'll lose X-Reality though, so you might want to think about it before you do it, but it's revertible (i.e you can lock it again) and get X-Reality back as long as you've backed up your TA folder!
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I'm not sure. I think there was an alternative, albeit much longer and complicated rooting guide back on 475 or something (that should still work on 532?). The rooting scene ain't pretty from now on. We don't have any other "one click root" solutions at the moment, so we're properly f*****, unless you want to give the vRoot people your information, like a lot of us have already done
The difference between unlocked bootloader and locked bootloader is that the unlocked bootloader is unlocked. Just kidding. I literally just unlocked my bootloader, and it allows me to install Recovery and flash custom ROMs like CM, PAC-ROM, PA etc. You'll lose X-Reality though, so you might want to think about it before you do it, but it's revertible (i.e you can lock it again) and get X-Reality back as long as you've backed up your TA folder!
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Ah so you have to unlock boot loader for pretty much anything.
I'm not really interested in installing custom ROMs, I think Sony have actually done quite a good job, I only installed custom roms on my note because samsung was so bloated.
Do I have to unlock bootloader if all I want to do is add a few things like awesome beats, titanium backup pro etc? I don't want to install a ROM.
Hopefully someone somewhere comes up with a new rooting method soonish. Would even donate.
EDIT: In theory then, can I unlock the boot loader, install a custom rom, then relock it so I get x reality back etc?
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Ah so you have to unlock boot loader for pretty much anything.
I'm not really interested in installing custom ROMs, I think Sony have actually done quite a good job, I only installed custom roms on my note because samsung was so bloated.
Do I have to unlock bootloader if all I want to do is add a few things like awesome beats, titanium backup pro etc? I don't want to install a ROM.
Hopefully someone somewhere comes up with a new rooting method soonish. Would even donate.
EDIT: In theory then, can I unlock the boot loader, install a custom rom, then relock it so I get x reality back etc?
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You don't have to unlock the bootloader if you just want to root and install Titanium etc. You only need to unlock it if you want to flash a custom ROM. People are trying to find a root exploit in 257, but it looks like it's really hard to do, so we just have to wait.
And that won't work. You need to have Recovery installed to flash custom ROMs, and Recovery requires root.
So, my little brother opened one of the waterproof flaps on my sony Xperia Z in the pool the other day. I would have been sad, but I saw it as an excuse to buy a Z ultra GPE. Luckily, a week after I ordered the Z Ultra GPE, the original Z started working again with no problems (despite the 3 red LDI's) but thats another story... :laugh: Anyways, I've ordered the GPE edition of the Z ultra, and I'm having trouble discovering rom compatibility. I've had trouble finding any info about this in the forums so I thought I'd ask. Are the steps to root the phone the same? Do any of the LTE supported roms work? Do I still need to backup the keys so I don't lose things like the bravia engine?
TLDR: Xperia Z ultra GPE rom compatibility.
EDIT: I know that most of you with a vanilla Z ultra really want the GPE rom, so I should clarify that the only reason I'm interested is in hopes of getting a kitkat cyanogen or pac-man rom running.
Congrats, and welcome! You can root it by following these steps (jump down to "rooting GPe"). I'll be honest and tell you that i'm actually not that sure about the first question. I want to say "go nuts" with the AOSP ROMs (do not flash Sony ROMs), but i'm not 100% sure. I'm around 95% sure.
I think i'll summon @hamdogg @blueether @ChillyChan and @jackie099 and see what these guys say.
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Congrats, and welcome! You can root it by following these steps (jump down to "rooting GPe"). I'll be honest and tell you that i'm actually not that sure about the first question. I want to say "go nuts" with the AOSP ROMs (do not flash Sony ROMs), but i'm not 100% sure. I'm around 95% sure.
I think i'll summon @hamdogg @blueether @ChillyChan and @jackie099 and see what these guys say.
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I assumed the sony roms wouldn't work. That alone made it a tough decision to chose the GPE because I really like some of what timescape has to offer. That being said, my biggest frustration with my Xperia Z (on T-Mobile USA) was that the bootloader was locked. As someone who has flashed custom roms/kernels on every android phone I've ever owned I really felt "stuck" on the T-Mo Z. Getting A GPE ensured I can have my fun. (Plus. You know. Kitkat.)
Here's CM11 for the GPe version at least.
LordManhattan said:
Congrats, and welcome! You can root it by following these steps (jump down to "rooting GPe"). I'll be honest and tell you that i'm actually not that sure about the first question. I want to say "go nuts" with the AOSP ROMs (do not flash Sony ROMs), but i'm not 100% sure. I'm around 95% sure.
I think i'll summon @hamdogg @blueether @ChillyChan and @jackie099 and see what these guys say.
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I'm not 100%... but I think that a GPe will be fine to flash a Sony ROM... however I think that once you do you are stuck?!!?
Or perhaps that was because at the time there were no GPe ROM's available...
The steps to root the GPe are different. The kernel isn't the same as the Sony kernel, so to root will require a different method.
I've not investigated this so can't help.
Ham, I actually laughed out loud when I read the first part. Excellent!
Didn't someone around here say that GPe people shouldn't flash Sony ROMs or something? And CM has its own CM11 branch for the GPe, so I'm actually not sure what's true anymore
The rooting though is pretty straight forward, and the method in my guide is taken from the guy that dumped the GPe ROM when he got it, so that should work just fine.
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Ham, I actually laughed out loud when I read the first part. Excellent!
Didn't someone around here say that GPe people shouldn't flash Sony ROMs or something? And CM has its own CM11 branch for the GPe, so I'm actually not sure what's true anymore
The rooting though is pretty straight forward, and the method in my guide is taken from the guy that dumped the GPe ROM when he got it, so that should work just fine.
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I'm not a rom master, but I cant see why you couldn't flash any AOSP ROM (or even Sony, but I cant see the latter booting at all without some kernel work). Surly a AOSP Rom is only is only going to flash /system and boot.img, then you would just need to reflash @DooMLoRD's kernel/recovery (or better yet swapout the boot.img in the zip)
The questions are, are the partitions the same for /system /data and boot?
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The questions are, are the partitions the same for /system /data and boot?
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Hahah, you see? There are too many unanswered questions, so I'm not putting my stamp on anything in this thread
But I agree, all AOSP ROMs around here should work just fine, but why does CM have its own Togari GPe version of CM11? What's the difference between the XZU and GPe? I know there are some differences in the bootloader and stuff like that but...
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Hahah, you see? There are too many unanswered questions, so I'm not putting my stamp on anything in this thread
But I agree, all AOSP ROMs around here should work just fine, but why does CM have its own Togari GPe version of CM11? What's the difference between the XZU and GPe? I know there are some differences in the bootloader and stuff like that but...
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maybe just because of the differing kernel and some of the low level partitions?
another question, could we use adb to dd the raw disk image to a normal ZU. yes I know that this is a failsafe way to brick the phone is you get it even slightly wrong...
blueether said:
I'm not a rom master, but I cant see why you couldn't flash any AOSP ROM (or even Sony, but I cant see the latter booting at all without some kernel work). Surly a AOSP Rom is only is only going to flash /system and boot.img, then you would just need to reflash @DooMLoRD's kernel/recovery (or better yet swapout the boot.img in the zip)
The questions are, are the partitions the same for /system /data and boot?
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Ok, so I'm am totally willing to help with development on my phone in any way I can. I LOVE the XDA community. If anyone wants to test roms, needs a system dump, anything at all I can help. Hell, I'd even let someone remote into my desktop to poke around in the phone over ADB. Anything that can help the community with this simply awesome phone.
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Ok, so I'm am totally willing to help with development on my phone in any way I can. I LOVE the XDA community. If anyone wants to test roms, needs a system dump, anything at all I can help. Hell, I'd even let someone remote into my desktop to poke around in the phone over ADB. Anything that can help the community with this simply awesome phone.
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there is already a system dump and I think partition layout, so my questions are for the real DEVs to answer... Don't play too much as there has already been one or two dead GPe phones
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there is already a system dump and I think partition layout, so my questions are for the real DEVs to answer... Don't play too much as there has already been one or two dead GPe phones
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Fair enough. Just trying to help. My main goal is the pac-man rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508281 I'd rather run a jellybean pacman than a stock kitkat if I'm honest.
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Fair enough. Just trying to help. My main goal is the pac-man rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508281 I'd rather run a jellybean pacman than a stock kitkat if I'm honest.
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I guess you can PM @BLOWNCO (the PAC dev) and ask him if he's interested?
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I guess you can PM @BLOWNCO (the PAC dev) and ask him if he's interested?
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PM Sent! Although it isn't showing up in my "sent" for some reason. We'll see what he says. =) You guys have all been awesome btw! Thank you for all the great replies. :cyclops:
If the Sony rom is Cwm flashable then it should be flashable I guess.
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If the Sony rom is Cwm flashable then it should be flashable I guess.
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Please don't assume things. I haven't seen a single GPe owner flash a Sony ROM, and I think I've read that it won't work. The difference between "yes" and "no" around here is around $600, so don't say that something will probably work, and then the other person will sit there with a brick in his hands, just because you assumed something.
Remember that this is a public forum, and people from all over the place are reading and following everything we say, so when you write stuff like that, little Timmy might take your word on it and do it - and then brick it.
So stop assume things, please.
(This might look like an angry post, but it isn't. Just be careful about what you say when it comes to high risk stuff)
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Please don't assume things. I haven't seen a single GPe owner flash a Sony ROM, and I think I've read that it won't work. The difference between "yes" and "no" around here is around $600, so don't say that something will probably work, and then the other person will sit there with a brick in his hands, just because you assumed something.
Remember that this is a public forum, and people from all over the place are reading and following everything we say, so when you write stuff like that, little Timmy might take your word on it and do it - and then brick it.
So stop assume things, please.
(This might look like an angry post, but it isn't. Just be careful about what you say when it comes to high risk stuff)
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I agree with LordManhatton here, and I was in two mind to post what I dad for that reason.
BTW it will flash, as the only check in the model # and the GPe ships with the same (c6806). Whether it will boot is another question, and will it write everything to the correct partitions is another and more serious question. Then there is can you get back to a real GPe once you have flashed non real GPe ROMs?
Too many ifs for me
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Please don't assume things. I haven't seen a single GPe owner flash a Sony ROM, and I think I've read that it won't work. The difference between "yes" and "no" around here is around $600, so don't say that something will probably work, and then the other person will sit there with a brick in his hands, just because you assumed something.
Remember that this is a public forum, and people from all over the place are reading and following everything we say, so when you write stuff like that, little Timmy might take your word on it and do it - and then brick it.
So stop assume things, please.
(This might look like an angry post, but it isn't. Just be careful about what you say when it comes to high risk stuff)
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I have a logic for the assumption and that is because the only chance that the device will be bricked is when the S1 bootloader is changed. As far as I know that is only achievable via ftf flash.
I said CWM flash files is because Rom files dun override that part and even it doesnt boot up or ended in a loop, you can easily undo it.
I did not advise any GPE device to flash via ftf because that will definitely end up as an expensive paper weight.
I hope my logic makes sense. We are all here to learn
So after reading every post, it seems that CM11 is the only ROM available for us GPE guys?
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So after reading every post, it seems that CM11 is the only ROM available for us GPE guys?
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That we're aware of, yes But we still don't know if you guys can flash regular custom ROMs like the rest of us (PAC, Slimkat etc), so don't do that quite yet.