why CM and AOSP theme are more beautiful than touchwiz themes - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hey guys i envy the cm and aosp themes as they are really beautiful compared to the boring Samsung touch wiz themes,
black exodus theme looks so cool wish it worked on Samsung touch wiz

Why envy? Just flash CM or AOSP then u get want you want. Right?
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Indeed, why settle for something you don't like? you are the one looking at it, don't like it then change it :good:

Whatever floats your boat the ugliness of AOSP stops me using them .
jje

JJEgan said:
Whatever floats your boat the ugliness of AOSP stops me using them
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Give me the pure clean lines of ICS / Jelly Bean any day over the stuck-on-Froyo appearance of TouchWizz.
But like you say, whatever floats your boat!

what exactly is this place, miss S3 2012?!

reprazent said:
Indeed, why settle for something you don't like? you are the one looking at it, don't like it then change it :good:
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Because AOSP sucks. Force closes everywhere, almost unusable touch sensitivity. Themes don't apply everywhere anyway, if you really need good looks I'd say MIUI is the only way to go. I can deal with all of the above but definitely not shiitty touch sensitivity. TW roms tend to be a lot better in that regard, so I'm stuck there until they fix the shiitty sensitivity that ICS and JB have (JB is a bit better), with the next android version.

VanillaCracker said:
Because AOSP sucks. Force closes everywhere, almost unusable touch sensitivity. Themes don't apply everywhere anyway, if you really need good looks I'd say MIUI is the only way to go. I can deal with all of the above but definitely not shiitty touch sensitivity. TW roms tend to be a lot better in that regard, so I'm stuck there until they fix the shiitty sensitivity that ICS and JB have (JB is a bit better), with the next android version.
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[sarcasm]That's why CM is one of the most popular and sought out ROMs.. because it sucks and the touch sensitivity is way off.[/sarcasm]
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You can always use Nova or Apex or any of the other launchers and download a theme and/or fabricate your own theme.

Coreym said:
[sarcasm]That's why CM is one of the most popular and sought out ROMs.. because it sucks and the touch sensitivity is way off.[/sarcasm]
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Lol it's popular because they are a very efficient team, known for making the most stable of roms for AOSP. If you compare CM to almost ANY random hacked up TW rom they're probably about just as stable. If you compare TW to any hacked up AOSP rom it's definitely not the same... But yeah, na do some research corey touch sensitivity is soo shiitty on AOSP ICS. I noticed it the second I flashed CM9, and then even more noticible on other AOSP ICS roms. A kernel's senstivity can only change so much...it doesn't change touch response though.

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Lol it's popular because they are a very efficient team, known for making the most stable of roms for AOSP. If you compare CM to almost ANY random hacked up TW rom they're probably about just as stable. If you compare TW to any hacked up AOSP rom it's definitely not the same... But yeah, na do some research corey touch sensitivity is soo shiitty on AOSP ICS. I noticed it the second I flashed CM9, and then even more noticible on other AOSP ICS roms. A kernel's senstivity can only change so much...it doesn't change touch response though.
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I've not noticed but to be fair I haven't used CM9 since my S2, and maybe its changed but my last experience was quite pleasant. And I'm just thinking out loud here, but if it was so crappy it probably wouldn't get the attention it gets. After all I think you are the first person I've seen complain about AOSP being sh**** and poor touch sensitivity. To each his own I guess.
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VanillaCracker said:
it doesn't change touch response though.
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You should try CM10 and compare its touch response to TW. It's a great improvement compared to ICS.

if you don't like it, change it!

Coreym said:
I've not noticed but to be fair I haven't used CM9 since my S2, and maybe its changed but my last experience was quite pleasant. And I'm just thinking out loud here, but if it was so crappy it probably wouldn't get the attention it gets. After all I think you are the first person I've seen complain about AOSP being sh**** and poor touch sensitivity. To each his own I guess.
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Lol yeah na I'm just being over-critical but for real it's terrible for me. It is popular because it is a very good rom, but despite all the good aspects it provides and has, it makes MY user experience a lot worse than it was on GB, so I have to knock it. It's gotten a hell of a lot smoother, but there's nothing they can do about AOSP ICS' touch sensitivity.
kostastoupas said:
You should try CM10 and compare its touch response to TW. It's a great improvement compared to ICS.
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I have good sir! I'm one of those people that flashes and tries everything, waiting for the perfect rom and always looking to see what's new and good. I've tried all 6 or so of the JB previews. CM10 is the best IMO, and it has been improved a bunch, it is now on par with TW ICS imo, but that does not make it nearly as good as GB's touch sensitivity was.
gianrossi said:
if you don't like it, change it!
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I have, I've now forced myself to give up AOSP dispite how much I liked it and moved back to TW ICS where I can actually text full speed and have the rom registers my taps! Even though the styling sucks and there are less options, I can use my phone again without restraint . Now just waiting for Key Lime Pie MIUI

VanillaCracker said:
Because AOSP sucks. Force closes everywhere, almost unusable touch sensitivity. Themes don't apply everywhere anyway, if you really need good looks I'd say MIUI is the only way to go. I can deal with all of the above but definitely not shiitty touch sensitivity. TW roms tend to be a lot better in that regard, so I'm stuck there until they fix the shiitty sensitivity that ICS and JB have (JB is a bit better), with the next android version.
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You realize MIUI is based on AOSP?
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joshnichols189 said:
You realize MIUI is based on AOSP?
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GB MIUI was, yeah. V4 is based on Samsung. Although there are builds like cMIUI...which are more unique (like my signature).

VanillaCracker said:
GB MIUI was, yeah. V4 is based on Samsung. Although there are builds like cMIUI...which are more unique (like my signature).
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For this phone they are based off of Samsung.. but for other phones they are AOSP based like in your signature.

A clean look is best. Less is more.
I prefer the stock look of ICS/Jellybean and even CM since they're resource lite and very appealing.

joshnichols189 said:
For this phone they are based off of Samsung.. but for other phones they are AOSP based like in your signature.
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Why the hell would I be talking about any other phone? Haha. I have a GSII and it's also based on Samsung. Anyway I don't know anything about other phones, I don't see why I would, or why I would need to.

VanillaCracker said:
Why the hell would I be talking about any other phone? Haha. I have a GSII and it's also based on Samsung. Anyway I don't know anything about other phones, I don't see why I would, or why I would need to.
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I think you're being unfair calling AOSP **** and the like. Of course AOSP-based ROMs aren't running so good since it's not that easy getting everything to work.
The CM team don't even have the jellybean kernel source code from Samsung or the proprietary drives to make everything behave like the stock Samsung firmware.

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Gingerbread Scrolling Vs ICS

Why scrolling on ICS roms (sammy and aosp) are worse than on Gingerbread? It really sucks. I just don't get it since ICS is supposed to have hardware acceleration and all. It stutters a lot and is not as smooth as gb. I've been using paranoid rom for some time now and I've tried almost everything available on xda and while ICS has clear advantages over gb, scrolling is not one of them. I just went back to cm7 just to make sure (it'd been a long time since I'd used it and I didn't remember very well) and scrolling is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy better. Isn't it possible to make ics scrolling better? Am I missing some config or tweak that fixes this?
ICS has only recently been shipped out, give Samsung some time and they'll iron out these things
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I can only agree. The scrolling in ICS on Galaxy S2 is poor. It is stuttering and this makes it unpredictable and very unpleasant to look at. The latest (XWLPG) firmware doesn't help at all. In my view, ICS is a beta product due to this single flaw. It may be functional, but not as good as GB good.
I am therefore running GB again.
galmok said:
I can only agree. The scrolling in ICS on Galaxy S2 is poor. It is stuttering and this makes it unpredictable and very unpleasant to look at. The latest (XWLPG) firmware doesn't help at all. In my view, ICS is a beta product due to this single flaw. It may be functional, but not as good as GB good.
I am therefore running GB again.
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As they said - "TO EACH IS OWN". it really is a preference for the user if they want ICS or GB. Feature wise, ICS offers a lot more than GB. Stability wise, yes its GB. Just my two cents
Agreed. The scrolling sucks. Stutter, stu stu stutter...
I never knew how bad scrolling could be until these stock-based Samsung ICS ROMs came out. As you lift your finger off the screen, the tracking is way too sensitive and sometimes this causes the scrolling to go flinging off into the opposite direction, or too far in the same direction you were traveling before you lifted your finger. This isn't necessarily an ICS problem, because CM9 and AOKP based ROMs on the SGS2 don't suffer from this issue, so it's obviously something Samsung is doing. Changing kernels and playing around with different touch sensitivity / vitalij settings doesn't really help. I'll be curious to see if the stock-based ROMs on the SGS3 do the same thing.
I'm having the exact same problem. Tried everything from pure stripped down ICS ROMS to heavily customized ones and the scrolling sucks as compared to GB. It's a shame the UI experience is worse on ICS when it is the biggest factor in user experience. The SGS2 has very powerful hardware (even by today's standards) and shouldn't stutter while simply scrolling between homescreens or app menus. It really just ruins the experience for me.
Any new on the next android update? I hope they're not stopping at 4.0.4 cus there's a lot more to be done.
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OriginsOfLewis said:
ICS has only recently been shipped out, give Samsung some time and they'll iron out these things
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It has nothing to do with samsung. It's ICS itself. Using custom non-samsung ICS roms (even pure google ICS experience ones) stutters just as much.
DanDroidian said:
Agreed. The scrolling sucks. Stutter, stu stu stutter...
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Samsung-based ICS Roms are buttery smooth. All AOxP Roms are not.
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Samsung-based ICS Roms are buttery smooth. All AOxP Roms are not.
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Check out the aosp kernel Fluxxi, which has a setting in its xx tweaks application to mimic scrolling to the old GB way. Problem solved
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Pfeffernuss said:
Samsung-based ICS Roms are buttery smooth. All AOxP Roms are not.
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I'm on LPG with SpeedMod...
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I'm on LPG with SpeedMod...
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I tried wanam LPG with both siyha and cf-root and they stuttered the same....maybe i'll try with speedmod.
kitecarl said:
Check out the aosp kernel Fluxxi, which has a setting in its xx tweaks application to mimic scrolling to the old GB way. Problem solved
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Has anyone tried this???
I tried, and yes, it is way better !
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I'm using XX series of ROMs and with exception of the first one (LPQ) scrolling is perfect, especially on XXLPW. I read somewhere on this forum that Samsung implemented different scrolling engine on ICS ROMs so actually we shouldn't much compare these two stock ROMs families. ICS was supposed to behave a little different from the beginning. Anyway, I've noticed the differences in scrolling mechanism on ICS but cannot say single bad word about its fluency nor speed.
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legsim said:
I tried, and yes, it is way better !
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Glad you liked! Funny thing is I never even used GB on my S2. Brought my used one home from the shop in early Jan, flashed an early version of CM9 and never looked back Now I'm a devout Slim ICS user. Highly recommended.
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Pfeffernuss said:
Samsung-based ICS Roms are buttery smooth. All AOxP Roms are not.
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I have only used official samsung roms and ICS stutters a lot. Use GB and ICS next to each other and you can't help thinking ICS is a step back when it comes to scrolling.

CM or AOKP (Not a Complaint Thread)

Just wondering if anybody else out there is strange like me and actually prefer CyanogenMod over AOKP. This is based on past experiences. I know AOKP is new to this device and is still buggy. This is not a complaint thread. Awesome job to the devs for getting us this far..
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I thought the hivemind was in favor of CyanogenMod. At least, that is the preference I've generally seen. I haven't tried AOKP though, so I'm looking forward to trying it.
So far, yes. But, keep in mind aosp is still in very early development.
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In terms of finished aosp, AOKP IS way better than CM9 . More features, way more. Aokp is stable as cm is. I know since im on the nexus but as a finished product the aokp will be the favorite, youll see. But i guess since aosp is early on this device you think cm is better cause of its name and past success. I think they failed at CM9.. they were really slow with deving and features
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AOKP seems like it's not very mature. CM on the other hand has been around for a while, so I'm more inclined to use CM. I don't really care about extra features, I just want the basic "Google experience."
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AOKP seems like it's not very mature. CM on the other hand has been around for a while, so I'm more inclined to use CM. I don't really care about extra features, I just want the basic "Google experience."
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same here for my nexus i tried cm and aokp and bamf but the features are well kinda unnecesary to me.....i like the basic cleaness of stock aosp maybe with limited features like theme manager would make for a great rom
Cool.. I didn't say anything about this device.. My preference has nothing to do with Devin's AOKP build. I am just referring to past devices and experiences. I know AOSP is brand new to Rezound and I am not putting down anybody's work.
I prefer CM myself. I wouldn't have any problem settling on AOKP if I had to though (well, except for the unicorns)
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Just wondering if anybody else out there is strange like me and actually prefer CyanogenMod over AOKP. This is based on past experiences. I know AOKP is new to this device and is still buggy. This is not a complaint thread. Awesome job to the devs for getting us this far..
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I have a nexus and I always preferred CM9 to AOKP, as well as on my DInc. CM9 doesn't looks a lot cleaner and more professional throughout the ROM, and doesn't have all the gay unicorn crap
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I have a nexus and I always preferred CM9 to AOKP, as well as on my DInc. CM9 doesn't looks a lot cleaner and more professional throughout the ROM, and doesn't have all the gay unicorn crap
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lol.. yeah the Unicorns are a little too much and agree with Joel on the features that I haven't used and probably will never use.
I don't get the AOKP hate.
1) Unicorns you can ignore them. Change the bootanimation.zip. The rest of them you never see until you change your wallpaper. You can even delete it all from the ROM.zip if you want.
2) Extra features- you don't have to use them. Having the code in them doesn't slow the ROM down or affect you. If you don't open ROM Control, you never see them.
con247 said:
I don't get the AOKP hate.
1) Unicorns you can ignore them. Change the bootanimation.zip. The rest of them you never see until you change your wallpaper. You can even delete it all from the ROM.zip if you want.
2) Extra features- you don't have to use them. Having the code in them doesn't slow the ROM down or affect you. If you don't open ROM Control, you never see them.
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amen. personally, i think the unicorns are a good conversation stater
I prefer AOKP, though I have a special place in my heart for CM. Its really funny actually. Last year at this time exactly my Droid 2 got cm7 and my Rezound has AOKP and CM9 at the same time a year later. I run AOKP because I'm a tweak *****, but I do really like CM's no BS no frills attitude. I'm mainly running aokp because I've never tried it before. Aside from heating and the usual issues, I've been pretty happy. Soft keys are buggy though.
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JoelZ9614 said:
same here for my nexus i tried cm and aokp and bamf but the features are well kinda unnecesary to me.....i like the basic cleaness of stock aosp maybe with limited features like theme manager would make for a great rom
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This is why I love "you jelly huh". It's perfect for people that aren't as nerdy and/or needy as most people here. Thank you for work Joel! All my friend knows is that his nexus has never been faster and more stable :thumbup:
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uToTMeH8 said:
This is why I love "you jelly huh". It's perfect for people that aren't as nerdy and/or needy as most people here. Thank you for work Joel! All my friend knows is that his nexus has never been faster and more stable :thumbup:
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yeah, jelly is a great rom. so is paradigm, as well. bamf=quality.
but yeah, i put CM9 on the rezound after trying AOKP and i just like the feel of CM9 more.
Unicorns
The additional features of AOKP can be enticing but they tend to come at the expense of battery life and overall smoothness when compared to CM9. I've yet to run either on my rezound but that was my general experience on other devices.
Furthermore, unicorns are mythical creatures devoid of genitalia that transcend the petty realm of sexuality. See Donnie Darko's explanation of smurfs for further reference.
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The additional features of AOKP can be enticing but they tend to come at the expense of battery life and overall smoothness when compared to CM9. I've yet to run either on my rezound but that was my general experience on other devices.
Furthermore, unicorns are mythical creatures devoid of genitalia that transcend the petty realm of sexuality. See Donnie Darko's explanation of smurfs for further reference.
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read cons post about the extra features
con247 said:
I don't get the AOKP hate.
1) Unicorns you can ignore them. Change the bootanimation.zip. The rest of them you never see until you change your wallpaper. You can even delete it all from the ROM.zip if you want.build/core/product_config.mk:205: *** No matches for product "vigor". Stop.
2) Extra features- you don't have to use them. Having the code in them doesn't slow the ROM down or affect you. If you don't open ROM Control, you never see them.
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I did. With the droid 3 AOKP was a bigger burden on my battery than cm9, that said I still preferred AOKP. Majestic unicorns and all.
Edddit
I'm excited to try aosp out when I get the chance, get it all rojo'd out to match the rezzy.
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brandonmangan said:
I did. With the droid 3 AOKP was a bigger burden on my battery than cm9, that said I still preferred AOKP. Gay unicorns and all.
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fixed that for you
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fixed that for you
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Why you hatin?
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beans vs cleanrom

I have been running cleanrom 3.5 for a few weeks and have been very happy. Tonight I'm either going to flash beans 5 or cleanrom 4. Any advice as to what's more stable and smooth? I think the features are pretty similar aside from the aosp theme of beans.
themichael said:
I have been running cleanrom 3.5 for a few weeks and have been very happy. Tonight I'm either going to flash beans 5 or cleanrom 4. Any advice as to what's more stable and smooth? I think the features are pretty similar aside from the aosp theme of beans.
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I would imagine that CleanROM 4.0 is more stable, considering many use CleanROM as there daily driver. Last night I flashed CleanROM 4.0, and haven't had any problems so far. I'm using Verizon Note 2.
themichael said:
I have been running cleanrom 3.5 for a few weeks and have been very happy. Tonight I'm either going to flash beans 5 or cleanrom 4. Any advice as to what's more stable and smooth? I think the features are pretty similar aside from the aosp theme of beans.
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They are both stable and smooth. Can't go wrong with either. Its just personal preference.
Beans is also a stable daily driver.
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They are both 100% stable as a DD, I have never had a single problem with either one.
Ive run both and I honestly cant make up my mind which to stay with both have been great for me.
Decisions decisions
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Try both and make your own decision. I like both.
I have to vote for Beans here, very stable, and fast, and he is a great dev also.
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I have to vote for Beans here, very stable, and fast, and he is a great dev also.
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If you want more of an AOSP look to your Note 2, then Beans is the way to go -- he themes his ROM's to give you that AOSP look.
CleanROM is not themed, but very light weight in terms of removed bloatware and other tweaks that the dev has done to the ROM.
I prefer CleanROM since I'm not really a big fan of the AOSP look/feel (I know.. I'm in the minority here).
But as others have said, you can't go wrong with either ROM, they are fantastic. I'm just hoping some of the themer's out there come to this phone as they did on the S3.
I roll my own.
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If you want more of an AOSP look to your Note 2, then Beans is the way to go -- he themes his ROM's to give you that AOSP look.
CleanROM is not themed, but very light weight in terms of removed bloatware and other tweaks that the dev has done to the ROM.
I prefer CleanROM since I'm not really a big fan of the AOSP look/feel (I know.. I'm in the minority here).
But as others have said, you can't go wrong with either ROM, they are fantastic. I'm just hoping some of the themer's out there come to this phone as they did on the S3.
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Agreed completely. But the opposite for me, I'm using beans for that AOSP look, coming from the Gnexus, can't go back from it. Plus it's amazingly smooth and stable. Battery life has been great, too.
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Agreed completely. But the opposite for me, I'm using beans for that AOSP look, coming from the Gnexus, can't go back from it. Plus it's amazingly smooth and stable. Battery life has been great, too.
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+1 for Beans! I didnt want the N2 until I saw a vid with the AOSP look. Pretty much ran right out and got it after that! :good:
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I roll my own.
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So will we be seeing a BAMF rom? BAMF roms was the only thing that made my thunderbolts bearable. I loved the BAMF Stripped V1.8 Froyo the best.
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So will we be seeing a BAMF rom? BAMF roms was the only thing that made my thunderbolts bearable. I loved the BAMF Stripped V1.8 Froyo the best.
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I don't know. I am the only member with a Note 2 and the abuse seen from some people lately has put off other members. The sense of entitlement from the Android community chases off more talent than anything else.
So, I won't say no, but will leave it as a fading hope, that is still in 'maybe' status but could change to a resounding 'NO'.
Wintrmte said:
If you want more of an AOSP look to your Note 2, then Beans is the way to go -- he themes his ROM's to give you that AOSP look.
CleanROM is not themed, but very light weight in terms of removed bloatware and other tweaks that the dev has done to the ROM.
I prefer CleanROM since I'm not really a big fan of the AOSP look/feel (I know.. I'm in the minority here).
But as others have said, you can't go wrong with either ROM, they are fantastic. I'm just hoping some of the themer's out there come to this phone as they did on the S3.
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Beans is actually smaller than clean rom. As far as light weight.
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adrynalyne said:
I don't know. I am the only member with a Note 2 and the abuse seen from some people lately has put off other members. The sense of entitlement from the Android community chases off more talent than anything else.
So, I won't say no, but will leave it as a fading hope, that is still in 'maybe' status but could change to a resounding 'NO'.
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I've seen a lot of devs stop releasing stuff because of all the bs. I wish most devs would just post a "this is my rom, take it or leave it but don't B!TCH!" and just release it as they built it for themselves and let others create mods instead of trying to cater to everyone.
Can we please keep on topic for a change.
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Can we please keep on topic for a change.
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Pot, meet kettle?
adrynalyne said:
I roll my own.
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I loved your roms on the Alltel HTC Touch (Vogue). You gave us a lot of things to play with on that phone.

Touchwiz Vs. AOSP

This is it, touchwiz vs aosp. Its all about who can make the best claim.
If so, what roms are you using? I've tried them all and i can't decide!!!!
here are my thoughts...
touchwiz, everything works but i dont care for anything.
aosp.... I like having all the extra stuff and dont have to customize anything.
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roms i liked were hyperdrive, cleanrom, liquid, aokp, cm10.1
I use CM10 on mine for one reason PDroid. I use Open-PDroid with AFWall+ and Adfree. Can have ultimate control of my phone. I really don't care about the gimmicks (Air touch, etc) Played with them for the first hour I had my phone, then rooted, ROM'd and moved on.
I like Touch Wiz. Coming from aokp, I'm bored with aosp (stilll like aokp), and the nav bar on the s4 (and s3) is goofy imo. TW is a nice change and it's clean. With tw what do you need to customize? A battery icon is about all, It's all done for you imo...of course, I'm using CLEAN 1.3, but to each his own...
I would like to try aosp but last I heard they were still having issues with GPS and Bluetooth. I like my phone to function fully. Once that's ironed out I'll make the switch.
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Well ive tried them all... and i dont care to customize. i am getting bored with aosp as well. im gonna try out beans to say ive tried them all... but might just stick to cleanrom which has always been my go to rom.
I'm running clean rom and I love it. Since I'm on Verizon it added the wifi toggle and got rid of a ****load of bloatware. Then I just used file explorer and finished the rest of myself. I like the samsung apps so I don't want a rom that gets rid of them
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Touchwiz is functional, intuitive, and looks better.
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Touchwiz is functional, intuitive, and looks better.
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im getting pretty set on TW, but now im thinking jelly beans or cleanrom. but who knows
I like aosp simply because touchwiz looks hideous
After rooting my s3 and playing with Touchwiz and AOSP I've opted to keep my S4 stock and have yet to root the device. I can use Nova Launcher and use a few other programs to get the AOSP look I need. Plus I have the added benefit of the camera features and no GPS issues. We'll see if the AOSP ROM for the Nexus Edition S4 helps with those issues but until then... It's TW for me.
bsimpson1 said:
I like aosp simply because touchwiz looks hideous
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ive got kind of the opposite thought. i dont mind the touchwiz look. i dont care for the fancy features much, but i do like how everything works... especially the IR.
bsimpson1 said:
I like aosp simply because touchwiz looks hideous
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I wouldn't call it hideous. It just lacks eye candy. I used to like aosp alot but it never changes and looks the same. I'm bored of all the themes for it too aosp is insanely fast on this device and If the IR blaster is implemented someday, I'll leave aosp on my phone for more than 15 minutes
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Evocm7 said:
I wouldn't call it hideous. It just lacks eye candy. I used to like aosp alot but it never changes and looks the same. I'm bored of all the themes for it too aosp is insanely fast on this device and If the IR blaster is implemented someday, I'll leave aosp on my phone for more than 15 minutes
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agreed. TW does look very cartoonish, but i got bored of aosp. im happy to be back on android though.... i was on apple for a few months.
After having smart stay, air gesture, and the ir remote, I won't go to AOSP based roms until they add those options. I can make TW look better by theming it.
thanx.
I typically run AOKP, but bounce around between the AOSPs a bit. I wasn't minding TW on this device so much, especially with some of the cool tweaks, but I cannot stand having both the quick toggles (which are way too huge) and the toggles page.
Weird as it is... the clunkyness of the notifications pull down is probably what makes TW a non-contender for me.
Edit: Oh, and some weird Bluetooth issue between the S4 and my car that only exists with TW and causes skipping in the sound unless I make a phone call first... lol.
theidoctor said:
agreed. TW does look very cartoonish, but i got bored of aosp. im happy to be back on android though.... i was on apple for a few months.
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You know, I thought tw on the note 2 looked cartoonish. It definitely seems more "serious" on the s4. Btw, sorry to hear about your Apple moment...lol
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Am able to replicate enough of the AOSP experience using a few apps to keep myself happy.
Will wait and see what ROMs we get after the AOSP SGS4 is released.
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Btw, sorry to hear about your Apple moment...lol
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Haha! Agreed. I was going to say the same thing
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Haha! Agreed. I was going to say the same thing
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lol... im glad some of you guys can sympathize for me!

Question about the best rom

thinking about rooting and installing ROM][09/09/2013]M7WLV Port is ths rom TOTALLY BUG FREE??
I've been using it for a few weeks now and haven't found a problem yet.
I'm not sure that any of the Rom's are totally bug free. Most of the sense based ROMs are pretty good! I'm not a big sense user but the ones I have tried work really well.
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Cool thanks guys
There is no "best" ROM. Every ROM is great, as we have some rockin' awesome devs. It just boils down to preference.
Sense based:
Software designed for our hardware, less bugs, not many features, but things just.... Work.... You want to stay sense but want a metric S*** ton of features? Try Viper DNA, if you want a little less features, try NOS.
AOSP based:
Made for all iterations of Android devices, more prone to bugs, limited by software (I noticed AOSP camera compared to Sense on this device is a joke IMO, as Sense camera is MADE for this brand of phone, AOSP is made for a plethora of devices). You get nice features with no loss of performance (to a degree). With AOSP you get that Stock Android feel Google intends without OEM putting their skin on top of it.
It really boils down to the features you want, and the way you want your phone to act. Some Roms fly, some don't. It all is just the nature of the beast. Best to try a few out, just be sure to search that ROM's thread for any bugs, reviews, and features.
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droidboy80 said:
thinking about rooting and installing ROM][09/09/2013]M7WLV Port is ths rom TOTALLY BUG FREE??
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i've been running it for a while pretty bug free lol, i also run viperdna also pretty bug free, depends on what im feeling, clean stock vs super customization
ABFP (Android Bug Free Project). Just kidding. Anyway, Sense ROMs definitely have the least bugs, but the AOSP ROMs are pretty good too, mostly everything works. I suggest you give the Google Play Edition ROM a try though, It's got all the benefits of being a sense-based ROM but it feels like pure AOSP. It doesn't have all the cool features of the real AOSP ROMs though.
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My answer to this question is simple.. Though there are many great roms based on AOSP, they are all based on the CM 10.2 source.. For me, there are still too many bugs that I consider to be showstoppers ... I love AOSP and always will.. but I've been running Sense 5 since Joelz released just the rom OP is asking about.. now I've moved to Venom since I'm a tester and it frankly just works. Battery life is good, performance.. etc. It's all there.. I think there is a strange issue with Skype, but I don't use it.. those that do I feel bad, especially those that use it for phone calls, Venom will fix it.. just in time. :good: ... But honestly, this question can't be answered by anyone but you. Flash all the roms available, give them 3 days each.. operate like you normally do on your phone and see.. Really the only way.. But the most 'bug fee' will always be on Sense based roms.. :highfive:
Running gpe right now because I needed to use viber. With xposed it looks just like any other aosp rom. Maybe I'm just biased, but it doesn't feel as snappy as the proper cm/aosp roms.
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danjull said:
Running gpe right now because I needed to use viber. With xposed it looks just like any other aosp rom. Maybe I'm just biased, but it doesn't feel as snappy as the proper cm/aosp roms.
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I've noticed it doesn't feel as snappy, but I think it feels smoother if that makes any sense.
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