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Right now I've been happy running the Droid X2's stock Motorola Android 2.3.4 (rooted). That has met my needs (and wants) but only in a "meh" kind of way. After seeing some of the screenshots and user reviews about some alternative Android builds out there, I decided it's time to give one a try. Awhile ago, there were only one or two different ROMs for the X2 so the choices were limited, but simple. Now, I'm seeing some awesome things like CM7 running on the X2.
I'd really like to dual boot, if possible. That way, if the other ROM is crashing too much, or killing the battery, I can switch back when I need to. Is this possible with, say, CM7? I've also heard some good things about Eclipse. Namely stability. Stability isn't the highest priority for me, as long as it works most of the time.
So, what do you think is the best alternative ROM out there for the X2 for someone who is willing to try something unstable but still usable? If it can dual boot (if that's even possible on the X2) with my currently installed stock ROM, that'd be a big plus.
EDIT: I've also been looking into MIUI, but I'm not sure if the nice design is enough to sway me.
There isn't really anything you can do as far as dual booting goes with the x2. What you could do, is create a backup using BSR and then flash between those backups. You'd still need to have a wall charger to change between the two, but it works. it's what I've been doing with MIUI because I still want HDMI mirroring.
Cm7 is very stable and it's what i use. There are only a few things that aren't functioning, but they are minor and won't cause any frustration for most. If you were satisfied with stock blur then you will love cm7. My first choice for blur based roms is eclipse. Very stable, very reliable and an overall great experience.
Dual booting would essentially be nandroiding like skel said. I've run into issues doing this with cm7 though, md5 got messed up but it works for most and has worked for me before.
Enjoy flashing your new roms, it becomes an addiction quickly.
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That's probably what I'll do. Make a backup and start the adventure. Haha.
Just installed CM7. What a beast.
Its incredible isn't it. Like one of the worlds wonders but in electronic form.
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cm7 is indeed a beast. took my phone a few days a wipes to get used to it but im running strong now.
My only concern with it right now is battery performance.
Go to the market and download Battery Calibration. Once downloaded charge all the way to 100% and run the app. I was on Eclipse and now run CM7 and will never look back. It's way faster and my battery life is great.
Thanks, I'll give it a go.
I'm with you; I am ready to try something new. I hope to be running CM7 by this weekend if not sooner. We have so many good choices right now compared to a few months ago. I think I will stick with 2.3.4 based ROM's for now of which CM7 is one. It seems the Eclipse is now based on 2.3.5. Since there is no official release of this yet I plan to wait on it. Enjoy the awesome cheap upgrade for your phone; I know I will.
Leland
Getting fairly good battery on this ROM too. Pleasantly surprised.
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I'm with you; I am ready to try something new. I hope to be running CM7 by this weekend if not sooner. We have so many good choices right now compared to a few months ago. I think I will stick with 2.3.4 based ROM's for now of which CM7 is one. It seems the Eclipse is now based on 2.3.5. Since there is no official release of this yet I plan to wait on it. Enjoy the awesome cheap upgrade for your phone; I know I will.
Leland
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Eclipse works fine for me on 2.3.4 not much of anything really changed from 2.3.4 to 2.3.5 basically the same thing
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Hi, I haven't been an xda user in a while , I used to love tinkering around with my phones all day long.
now, I life has been taking over and I don't have the time to try out new stuff all day long.
that being said, the last rom I tried was a team whiskey bionix v1.3.1 sometime in early 2011 . I don't even think I wiped anything since.
I want a new rom, I feel like my phone is getting sluggish. I don't want to try roms that is going to make the phone slower, or is made for a faster phone (assuming ICS would be out of the question for me)
should I just stick with my current rom and wipe everything? I didn't have any complaints with it.
or are there better ones out now that wont compromise performance.
also another important thing for me is audio quality and saw many recommendations for voodoo sound. I don't have a kernal that supports it. I am running 2.6.32.9 jaeyoon.yoon
so pretty much what is the best rom and kernal combination for me that has no bugs, everything will run nice and snappy on. I don't want to experiment around anymore. I will straight up run the most recommended one.
many thanks in advance
I was in the same boat as you. I loaded Bionix back in February of last year and hadn't touched my phone's ROM since. For some reason I decided to see if there was anything new and sure enough ICS ROMs were available.
I love being on the cutting edge but my phone has to work too. I travel a lot and when I'm on the road I need to be able to depend on the phone working reliably. Looking at the ROMs available I went with the one with the most forum activity - that was ICS Passion. I flashed it first and was immediately impressed. Most everything works with the exception of the speakerphone which, while it does work, it seems like it picks up a lot of background noise.
Since then I've tried a few others but based on reliability and some UI preferences I went back to Passion. There are several battery mods which is nice, I like the Newborn3 battery style myself.
The other thing I've experimented with is the Kernel. I settled on the Glitch kernel because it seems the fastest to me and has no problem with the lock screen. It has Voodoo stuff which I honestly don't use much. The kernel does have issues creating a Nandoid backup but I never use those either ;-)
After using ICS I will not go back. In fact even the newer phones such as the SGS2 hold no attraction for me until there is a good ICS ROM available.
Hope that helps.
First off thank you bigjoe87865 for posting your question as I was in a similar situation. I previously had Axura and it was way too buggy and slugish. I finally had it the other night and started researching posts on the best rom and saw your question.
Second, atatistcheff, you installed ICS Passion and eventually you put the Glitch kernel. What was the reasoning in going about in installing this kernel and not using what was supplied with ICS passion? Would I enjoy my phone with just using ICS?
Was in the same boat as you until this week - long time Froyo user (Trigger and Bi-winning) for the past year. The GB roms always seemed to be too much trouble and not very practical.
After seeing all the positive feedback on the ICS ROMs, I figured I'd give it a shot and installed ICS Passion this week. Was immediately impressed with the speed, stability and functionality. Only problem I has was the battery life - it was simply awful. Saw posts regarding the battery life of SlimICS and flashed it on Friday. Works just as well as Passion, with the battery life I'm used from my Froyo ROMs. My single complaint is that the stock kernel doesn't support Voodoo sound, but I can do without that for the time being.
Long answer short: there's pretty much no reason to avoid ICS at this point - I'm a very light GPS user, so this is not a priority for me.
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Second, atatistcheff, you installed ICS Passion and eventually you put the Glitch kernel. What was the reasoning in going about in installing this kernel and not using what was supplied with ICS passion? Would I enjoy my phone with just using ICS?
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Passion always had a nagging issue with the lock screen for me. That is every few times when I pressed the power button to wake the phone up it would not respond. I'd have to press several times to get it to wake up. I've seen this issue posted about several times. It's really not serious and as with most issues YMMV. I think you'd be fine with Passion and the stock kernel. I like Glitch because the lock screen issue is non-existant and it seems to work fine with Passion.
You guys want a good ICS rom, flash ICZenwich 1.4, you'll thank me later
For those that want a very good froyo rom then I would go with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1441976
It is based off the bionix with the fisherman mod It is Rock Solid
Hey guys, just jumped ship from Sprint and put an X2 on PagePlus. I'm on day 2 with this phone and it's not bad... I'm coming from an EVO 3d and was running MIUI latest.. I'm seeing with all the roms posted here they all have querks. I'm wondering if there are any stable roms that have fully working MMS, camera, vid cam, FM, sleep, etc? I'll keep reading on my own but just curious what you guys might recommend?
I'd love to be on a stable ICS build if there is one floating around.
This really belongs in Q&A. As far as REALLY stable stuff, your best bet is a GB rom like eclipse or CM7. Everything works really nicely on those roms. The CM10 rom that Dragonzkiller ported over isn't bad, but it's got its issues. Just check out his thread.
CM7 is VERY stable. I never ran Eclipse. I will say that I have ran CM7, 9, and 10 and also ran ParanoidAndroid on CM9 and CM7 is by far the most stable and snappiest. Unfortunately I do believe this phone is starting to become obsolete and work is starting to cease on making CM9 and 10 fully stable.
Eclipse 1.3 is rock solid and I get almost 2 days of battery use out of it with a few tweaks.
Agreed, Eclipse is the most stable and all-around polished ROM for the X2. CM7 is nice, but I use my HDMI from time to time and it isn't supported.
I think I have tried them all and for me Eclipse is the best. or stock. even those have some issues. Eclipse does a reboot occasionally say once a day or two, and it has a quirk about wifi that sometimes it just goes away until i open the settings then it connects again.
I have tried eclipse 2.3, cm7 and cm10. I had wifi issues with both cm7 and cm10. I have never had a problem with eclipse 2.3. Fully functionable. Fm, mms, camera, camcorder. They all work. As for issues with wifi. Never had any. Haven't experienced any random reboots. There are also plenty of themes via adw or Holo. It just takes time searching for what you like. I'd highly recommend eclipse 2.3 though.
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I just wanted to echo the votes above for Eclipse.
Personally, I think the older versions were slightly faster and better on battery life, but you really can't go wrong with Eclipse. v 2.3 has some very nice features, and I doubt you'll have many (if any) quirks with it. All the features work fine for me, with no problems. That includes all those mentioned (fully working MMS, camera, vid cam, FM, sleep) as well as HDMI, application install and storage on SD cards, etc. It's truly a wonderfully built ROM, and a lot of time has been put into making it fast, clean, and functional.
As several mentioned above, there are some other very nice ROMs out there, based on AOSP. These definitely DO have merit, but I'm not really sure if the people posting them actually read and understood the OP's question. "Stability" might be a subjective term, and in many respects those ROMS could be considered more stable than Blur or Blur-based ROMs, But it's misleading to say that those ROMs don't have glitches. AOSP ROMs have issues with MMS, camcorder, HDMI, etc. There are imperfect fixes and workarounds for some of these issues, but certainly not all.
I don't want to discourage you from trying CM7, 9, 10, AOKP or Paranoid Android ROMS. These are each amazing in their own rights. I just installed AOKP and it is absolutely beautiful!! It's smooth, and has many of the options I've always been looking for on this phone. The flip-side is that there are SO many things that just do not work or that have "quirks". Each of these roms lists the known issues, but with AOKP, I've found that there are pretty significant problems with all of the following: MMS, Google Now, input (keyboard) glitches, voice recognition/voice dialing, HDMI, SD-card apps (and SD-storage in general--don't expect backed-up app-data to be recognized by most programs), tethering (wifi-AP), camera, video camera, many apps have "texturing" that causes crashes (e.g. chrome), etc.
But I think it's important to note that DESPITE all these significant problems, the OS is so amazing and fast and beautiful, that it is really hard to decide whether or not to switch back to Eclipse, especially since it doesn't seem to have been updated in a while (at least based on the xda post...not sure about twitter and nitro's eclipse website)
Good luck flashing (ROMs) and have fun!
I've tried them all and suggest that you do the same and find out what suits you best for me it's cm7 but I do keep nanos of them all in case I start having flash withdrawals or find a new mod to try
don't be scared it's only a phone
ogd x d2g x2 sg3
old ladies ^
ive tried most of them and cm7 is probably the most stable. Im running cm10 right now and it runs pretty good considering the circumstances. yes the x2 is becoming obsolete but its still a good phone with good hardware, unfortunately its true potential is locked in a cage.
Thanks for all the replies guys, I flashed Ecplise and played with it for a bit and not bad. I played around with SBF which is a new concept to me coming from yeaaaars of HTC devices.
I can't get CM10 to install I think I need to SBF to 2.3.4 before BSR. In recovery it says the zip is invalid.. I even tried downloading it again. I'll keep messing with it but yeah, trying every rom I can that looks promising.
Right now I'm back on stock rooted (nandroid backup) of 2.3.5
Last question, does data tether work if rooted?
Most roms have it baked in so yep
don't be scared it's only a phone
ogd x d2g x2 sg3
old ladies ^
Hurry take it back!!!
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I flashed Ecplise and played with it for a bit and not bad. I played around with SBF which is a new concept to me coming from yeaaaars of HTC devices.
I can't get CM10 to install I think I need to SBF to 2.3.4 before BSR. In recovery it says the zip is invalid.. I even tried downloading it again. I'll keep messing with it but yeah, trying every rom I can that looks promising.
Right now I'm back on stock rooted (nandroid backup) of 2.3.5
Last question, does data tether work if rooted?
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You must be on 2.3.4 for cm10 to work. Eclipse is the only rom out there that requires you to be on 2.3.5.
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Also tethering does work if you're rooted.
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Hey guys my dad just got a Fascinate for his work phone and it's currently running Android version 2.3.5.. When I checked for a software update it said that was the newest version. Really? It never got ICS at least?
Now if this were my phone I would root it immediately and flash something newer onto it but it's my dad's, and he honestly does not need that many cool features and all that. Still, if the process was simple and the features were worth it, then I would be glad to do it for him.
I've been looking through the Fascinate forums and it doesn't look like any promising Jelly Bean ROMs are out. Maybe I am mistaken?
What is the most stable ROM you can recommend me that is relatively "new" as far as Android goes, as this Fascinate is still 2.3.5. I would just like something relatively new that is still being developed/updated, and is stable as it's my dad's phone and I can't constantly be babysitting it and fixing any issues.
Thanks guys (I have a feeling CM10 or so is the ROM I am looking for, as 10.1 doesn't seem to be up, but just let me know what is your opinion.)
Unfortunately yes, after the 2.3.5 update the Fascinate was completely left out in the cold and never got any further official updates. Lucky for us though, we have some extremely talented developers that have done far better than any crap Verizon might have pushed out on us.
You are certainly mistaken about the Jelly Bean Roms, there are a few really good options. Personally I'm running AOKP Milestone 1 (4.1.2) with Devil kernel and that's been my daily driver for a while now. CM10 would probably be your best bet for a 'stable' rom, although nothing is broken on AOKP too, so it's more a personal preference. The biggest issues that I see on here are related to phone calls (speakerphone, ringtone not playing, etc) so if he's to be on the phone a lot then you should probably skip JB honestly. This isn't to say there are workarounds and fixes but as you said, you don't want to be consistently fixing it, so...
Anyway, if it's his work phone and he values stability above all else and doesn't care about bells and whistles then perhaps staying with a good Gingerbread rom would actually be the best way to go.... Superclean and TSM Resurrection come to mind.
Search for JT's cm10.1 (Android v4.2.1) for fascinatemtd over on rootzwiki. I've been running this as my daily driver for the past month or two. It hasn't been updated for a couple weeks, probably because nothing is broken (nothing that I can find...)
My wife has a fascinate that I have running the cm10 nightlies (android jb 4.1). I'm in a similar situation as you in that my family member primarily needs a reliable phone, they won't really appreciate how cool it is that they're running the latest version of android, and I'll need to help out if anything doesn't work...
I haven't updated her phone for a month or two, but when I do it's a simple matter to update it via cmupdater. Very slick.
The safest option would probably be the gingerbread-based GeeWiz 2.9. The dev is awesome and has recently updated the build just to make it neat and tidy.
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Search for JT's cm10.1 (Android v4.2.1) for fascinatemtd over on rootzwiki. I've been running this as my daily driver for the past month or two. It hasn't been updated for a couple weeks, probably because nothing is broken (nothing that I can find...)
My wife has a fascinate that I have running the cm10 nightlies (android jb 4.1). I'm in a similar situation as you in that my family member primarily needs a reliable phone, they won't really appreciate how cool it is that they're running the latest version of android, and I'll need to help out if anything doesn't work...
I haven't updated her phone for a month or two, but when I do it's a simple matter to update it via cmupdater. Very slick.
The safest option would probably be the gingerbread-based GeeWiz 2.9. The dev is awesome and has recently updated the build just to make it neat and tidy.
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Ah yeah I forgot about geewiz. Another amazingly talented dev we're lucky enough to have, and better yet extremely active on these forums still. Do you have the link to the 2.9 thread? I can only find the 3.3.3 thread (JB) for some reason.
I personally don't like the changes in 4.2 over 4.1 so I went back to 4.1.2 for the time being. It's only little things like the notifications and lock screen, but for some reason I like the layout of 4.1 better... but that's just me. I have yet to try CM10.1 though so I may just give that a go in the future to see how it is.
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Ah yeah I forgot about geewiz. Another amazingly talented dev we're lucky enough to have, and better yet extremely active on these forums still. Do you have the link to the 2.9 thread? I can only find the 3.3.3 thread (JB) for some reason.
I personally don't like the changes in 4.2 over 4.1 so I went back to 4.1.2 for the time being. It's only little things like the notifications and lock screen, but for some reason I like the layout of 4.1 better... but that's just me. I have yet to try CM10.1 though so I may just give that a go in the future to see how it is.
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Here's the link to the GeeWiz 2.9 thread. I point out GeeWiz 2.9 since it's the closest to what Verizon last delivered as "stock" (Gingerbread) for the fascinate that has also received recent support/attention. Back in the day, I was partial to the final SuperClean3 Milestone 2 release (albeit for some esoteric reasons around the illumination behavior of the hardware keys that I believe have since been addressed in GeeWiz).
On the CM10 vs. CM10.1 question, I've had the (purely subjective) impression that latter is a bit faster...
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Here's the link to the GeeWiz 2.9 thread. I point out GeeWiz 2.9 since it's the closest to what Verizon last delivered as "stock" (Gingerbread) for the fascinate that has also received recent support/attention. Back in the day, I was partial to the final SuperClean3 Milestone 2 release (albeit for some esoteric reasons around the illumination behavior of the hardware keys that I believe have since been addressed in GeeWiz).
On the CM10 vs. CM10.1 question, I've had the (purely subjective) impression that latter is a bit faster...
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I also think that 4.2 was a little snappier, although I didn't do any actual testing to verify that. I just get annoyed really easy by the little things that I don't like, like the new notifications, and I think for now I'll deal with 4.1 because it's still plenty fast for my needs (using SmartassV2 and Zen seems to help a lot). Hopefully in the future CM or AOKP will add some features to make 4.2 feel like 4.1 (kinda like how there was some older ICS options in the JB AOKP).
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I also think that 4.2 was a little snappier, although I didn't do any actual testing to verify that. I just get annoyed really easy by the little things that I don't like, like the new notifications, and I think for now I'll deal with 4.1 because it's still plenty fast for my needs (using SmartassV2 and Zen seems to help a lot). Hopefully in the future CM or AOKP will add some features to make 4.2 feel like 4.1 (kinda like how there was some older ICS options in the JB AOKP).
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sorry for off-topic, but what is your cpu OCd to if OCd at all
I've been running 200MHz min / 1200MHz max and screen off 200MHz min / 800MHz max (normal OC, not LiveOC). Battery life has been pretty good with it and it seems to be less sluggish vs stock. I also undervolt quite heavily too, you can check my thread I made about it in General a while back for my settings. I'm certainly not one of those people who want to squeeze every last drop of performance from their phones because I personally value battery life above performance, but I certainly don't want a sluggish phone either so I've tried to find a good balance
Alright guys thanks a lot for the suggestions I saw several of these myself and did the reading it was just hard to decipher it all considering I was new to the Fascinate
I've tried most of the jb ROMs for fascinate and settled for baked black bean v6 with devil kernel 1.9.5. Runs great but been having issues with MMS.
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Same here bbb6 with devil 1.9.5. But to fix my issues with MMS I just move to using "go SMS" with custom MMS setting and removed the stock app.
Side note: I do find "go SMS" to be horrible app along with the dev team. I mean yes the app works and yes I use it. But only because I have too. The is always nagging me to go try another theme, to get there launcher, or its sending me fake chat messages about how I should there go chat feature. I mean I have a list of things I dislike about it. But again it does get the job done....
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So what doesn't work about your guys MMS,,, and are you Verizon or someone else
Mine has always worked fine,,, I'm page plus through Verizon
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Power washed is a good 2.3 rom
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I'm using revol wireless. And I can get MMS to work. But it's way slower sending through the stock app then when I send through go SMS. Plus go allows me to rotate my PICs before I send them.
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I'm surprised that there isn't one of these for Droid X2 yet. So what ROM do you plan to use and why did you chose it over others?
Molten
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I'm surprised that there isn't one of these for Droid X2 yet. So what ROM do you plan to use and why did you chose it over others?
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I'm using Molten 2.3 Redux because I think it is very stable, everything works.
I'll start, haha. I used to use CM7, but when I got a hankering for something a little updated, I switched to CM10. 7 was quite a bit quicker, but 10 makes up for it with JB. I've tried out the other big gingerbread ones (molten, liberty) and ics roms (cm9, pa) but I really like cm10 as my daily now. Anyway, theres my spiel. If you have any questions I'm still on the dx2 and I'd like to connect with the few users still out there.
I just replaced my x2 with a gnexus (woo cheap new old phones). Used a bunch of roms, from eclipse 1.1 to 2.3 to cm7 9 and 10. Currently I'm on Liberty because it seems like the fastest stable phone (which is what I want from my soon to be backup phone). Overall though, I'd say my go to ROM is cm7. It's stable enough and is still full of features. cm9 and 10 are amazing glimpses into ics and jb but it honestly is just too slow/full of problems that I can't stomach it.
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I'll start, haha. I used to use CM7, but when I got a hankering for something a little updated, I switched to CM10. 7 was quite a bit quicker, but 10 makes up for it with JB. I've tried out the other big gingerbread ones (molten, liberty) and ics roms (cm9, pa) but I really like cm10 as my daily now. Anyway, theres my spiel. If you have any questions I'm still on the dx2 and I'd like to connect with the few users still out there.
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if there was some solution to the phone call issue (losing audio/call after proximity sensor turns screen off), i would have stayed on cm10 as well. i use cm9 instead because of battery life (being about twice as long as cm10) and the issue i just mentioned. i also like to use chrome, and falcon pro. besides those, i dont use many apps, so cm9 is pretty stable for me. occasionally , it will reboot when overloaded. but that is not more than once every couple days. not to mention the reboot thing has been an issue on every rom i have ever tried on this phone. including all of the GB ones. :silly:
honsestly, regardless of what rom you are using, this phone runs SO SO / kinda crappy at best. it is just lacking hardware wise, which is why it will never see an update, and for the most part developers have abandoned it. it was fun while it lasted though. it wasnt a horrible enough experience to turn me away from android. but god has it been dissapointing.