I've had a combination of two weird / PITA problems since upgrading past LE6 leak:
1. Slow to lock GPS
2. REALLY bad battery life (losing 10% an hour while idle in some cases).
In the last few days I was at a conference with known poor signal indoors, so I started toggling Airplane mode on during some of the sessions. I noticed a DRAMATIC change in battery life. I thought the improvement was too good for just having disabled for about 2 hours each day, so the last two days I've toggled Airplane mode on and immediately back off after heavy use... I've done this today and after frequent use repeated the toggle routine. At the time of this posting I'm sitting at 70% at a time of day I'd usually be around half that.
Anyone willing to try this and let me know if I've just been lucky the last few days?
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I've run CPU Spy and I know my phone isn't going to deep sleep as frequently as it should. I installed better battery stats and nothing was causing partial or kernel wakes so I was about to give up.
I believe this may stem from the GPS having crappy lock time, since I frequently use Facebook on the phone and it activates GPS (and doesn't F'n lock) I figured airplane mode after use couldn't hurt.
Qualifiers for a valid test include the two problems I mentioned above. If you're lucky enough to not have these issues, please recommend your settings... WiFi is off with screen off, i'm using screen filter at 38%... I've tried task killers, I've tried many different ROMs... this is the first time I've seen any noticeable improvement.
I heard that powering down your phone completely works even better...not sure though, might need to test it.
Jk. But yeah, it's well known that the radios are one of the biggest drains of battery besides the screen. Turning them off will obviously increase battery life, but it also turns your phone into a big iPod touch, as you can't receive calls, texts, etc. Add for the GPS issue, several roms have zero GPS issues, try them out, see which gives you best GPS. And turn it off when you're not using it.
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welchertc said:
I heard that powering down your phone completely works even better...not sure though, might need to test it.
Jk. But yeah, it's well known that the radios are one of the biggest drains of battery besides the screen. Turning them off will obviously increase battery life, but it also turns your phone into a big iPod touch, as you can't receive calls, texts, etc. Add for the GPS issue, several roms have zero GPS issues, try them out, see which gives you best GPS. And turn it off when you're not using it.
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The battery life advantage exists even when the radio was only toggled off for about 1s. I'm no longer leaving it off for hours.
Yeah, probably because it kills the GPS searching for satellites. So either flash a new modem or ROM. I leave my GPS on 100 percent of the time, as when it works properly there is no battery drain when an app isn't using it. The GPS is known to be hit or miss with lf6, so take that and fix it with a modem flash.
Edit: in other words, your toggle method won't improve battery anymore than a properly working modem, and it's a lot more of a hassle to you to keep toggling instead of trying different modems
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Yeah, probably because it kills the GPS searching for satellites. So either flash a new modem or ROM. I leave my GPS on 100 percent of the time, as when it works properly there is no battery drain when an app isn't using it. The GPS is known to be hit or miss with lf6, so take that and fix it with a modem flash.
Edit: in other words, your toggle method won't improve battery anymore than a properly working modem, and it's a lot more of a hassle to you to keep toggling instead of trying different modems
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Do you have a recommendation on a modem then? I'm currently using King-Kang (love AOKP and Paranoid Android... Dagr8 did one hell of an integration). I've left the kernel and modem alone since then.
I'm using LE2, you really just have to try them and see what works best for you.
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Hi,
I just flashed SuperClean 2.9.2 (non-voodoo) yesterday, and I love the speed, but it really drains the battery pretty fast. For example, with minimal usage it drains from 100 to 82 in less than two hours. That's a lot worse than the stock settings I had on there before. Since I'm new at this, is that normal? If I switch to a better kernel would that fix it? Any suggestions on what to do or tweak?
Thanks!
[Update] 3/30/11
So after a full day of observation, I've noticed that it seems to go from 100 to 80 fairly quickly (less than 2 hours), but then the rate slows down. It took 4 hours to go from 80 to 62. Then last night I left it on all night, starting at 78 and it is now at 48 (almost 12 hours). Obviously I wasn't using it much overnight, but I wasn't using it much when the initial drain from 100 to 80 happened. Might just be that the meter is not consistent? But at least I know that it's not draining faster than the old setup.
Still looking into the idea of an undervolted kernel. Any good suggestions?
Thanks!
An undervolted kernel might help but who knows... if I get over 5 hours I usually consider myself lucky.
i updated this morning, have an extended battery, and seem to notice massive drains, but i guess with power comes sacrifices
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An undervolted kernel might help but who knows... if I get over 5 hours I usually consider myself lucky.
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5 hours?! Dude, that totally sucks! Hmmmm, maybe it's time for a new battery?
Mine lasted about 6 and a half hrs then was at 8%
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5 hours?! Dude, that totally sucks! Hmmmm, maybe it's time for a new battery?
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It's brand new.
Dude this battery is acting like the Droid incredible batterry that's bad
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Not sure why this double posted. Must have been my frustration waiting 5 minutes just to edit an already posted post to correct the name of the app....
Each phone reacts differently to ROMs / Kernels when it comes to battery life. Same setup shows different battery life for different people.
First I would use the "Spare Parts" app and see if you can find any app taking up a lot of your battery life and remove it. (included in SC ROMs)
People also report different battery life with different Kernels. You can flash different Kernels that work with your ROM to see if you can get better battery life.
You also may need to remap your battery. There are posts on how to do so. Basically you charge to 100%, shut down and wait for it to show 100% with power off, then boot, go into Terminal gain SU and type bstats. Phone will reboot. This should be done anytime you flash a new Kernel and some do it with ROM flashes too.
Also don't run screen at 100% bright, use auto or something at or less than 30% unless you are in sunlight.
When not in use turn off WiFi and GPS as well.
All I can think of right now
acarter316 said:
i updated this morning, have an extended battery, and seem to notice massive drains, but i guess with power comes sacrifices
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I know some of the kernels are designed to recognize an aftermarket battery (see link below)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012571
Each phone is different, but when you are getting 18+ hours with dj05 then you go to sc 2.9.2 and only get 5 hours after you follow the directions there is a problem
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Running not even 2 hrs yet and mines at 70% right now from a full charge, so I feel your guys(gals)' pain. I checked with Spare Parts and noticed that under "Network Usage" there is a "0" that seems to be using up a LOT of juice. Searching it up on google brought me to a possible issue with GSM/CDMA (Time w/o signal issue). I remember issues with this with the D1 and the Eris, usually you could fix it on those phones by turning on Airplane Mode for a little while, then turning it back off.
EC10 is based off a GSM SGS phone if I'm not mistaken, and because of that may make the phone try to find a GSM signal. My time without signal was around 45% this morning so I dug around threads with similar issues with other phones brought me to this Hero CDMA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651848 .
Now we do have the same menu as shown here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sung_Galaxy_S_Series&oldid=13336#Secret_Codes
My thing is that I can't access it using SC 2.9.2. It doesn't automatically go to any of the menus. Anyone else have an issue getting into any of the secret menus?
It also looks like turning the airplane mode on and off seems to work for now.
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Running not even 2 hrs yet and mines at 70% right now from a full charge, so I feel your guys(gals)' pain. I checked with Spare Parts and noticed that under "Network Usage" there is a "0" that seems to be using up a LOT of juice. Searching it up on google brought me to a possible issue with GSM/CDMA (Time w/o signal issue). I remember issues with this with the D1 and the Eris, usually you could fix it on those phones by turning on Airplane Mode for a little while, then turning it back off.
EC10 is based off a GSM SGS phone if I'm not mistaken, and because of that may make the phone try to find a GSM signal. My time without signal was around 45% this morning so I dug around threads with similar issues with other phones brought me to this Hero CDMA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651848 .
Now we do have the same menu as shown here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sung_Galaxy_S_Series&oldid=13336#Secret_Codes
My thing is that I can't access it using SC 2.9.2. It doesn't automatically go to any of the menus. Anyone else have an issue getting into any of the secret menus?
It also looks like turning the airplane mode on and off seems to work for now.
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so a solution for now would be a stock rom? Or an aosp?
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selvikin said:
Running not even 2 hrs yet and mines at 70% right now from a full charge, so I feel your guys(gals)' pain. I checked with Spare Parts and noticed that under "Network Usage" there is a "0" that seems to be using up a LOT of juice. Searching it up on google brought me to a possible issue with GSM/CDMA (Time w/o signal issue). I remember issues with this with the D1 and the Eris, usually you could fix it on those phones by turning on Airplane Mode for a little while, then turning it back off.
EC10 is based off a GSM SGS phone if I'm not mistaken, and because of that may make the phone try to find a GSM signal. My time without signal was around 45% this morning so I dug around threads with similar issues with other phones brought me to this Hero CDMA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651848 .
Now we do have the same menu as shown here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sung_Galaxy_S_Series&oldid=13336#Secret_Codes
My thing is that I can't access it using SC 2.9.2. It doesn't automatically go to any of the menus. Anyone else have an issue getting into any of the secret menus?
It also looks like turning the airplane mode on and off seems to work for now.
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Read like 20 threads about the "0" and came to no conclusion haha. People just said it means root... and it could mean any app that requests Super User/Root permissions. Who knows though... I'm about to wipe date and reinstall afresh.
I hate to start a new battery thread but I've searched, read all the ones out there, and nothing seems to have helped. I just got this phone late last week and I first upgraded it to the latest OTA, then odin cww and finally installed com rom 1.3. Let me just say I've never seen a battery drop this quick. I haven't even activated the phone on my account because I'm so scared of how quickly I see it dropping without touching a thing on the phone. I also noticed the following:
baseband version
S:i500.04 V.ED03
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9
Build Number SCH-I500.ED01
The baseband and build ED0? don't seem to match up. Would this cause the problem? How do I fix that?
Just so that you get an idea, I've had the phone disconnected for 5hr 30min and I'm down to 55% battery with a fresh clean install of com rom 1.3. I did the battery calibration and that's about the only thing I've even installed on the phone. When I hit batt use here's what I get.
Display: 52%
WiFi 26%
cell standby 15%
Phone Idle 7%
I've had android for about a year and have an incredible that I love so I know that something just isn't right with this fascinate. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mike
my understanding is that the build and baseband don;t have to be equal, baseband is modem/radio and build is just the rom i believe.
From what I hear, the only thing you have to keep track of is using an eclair modem with a froyo rom as there will be issues...
You can try going to the ED01 modem (works better for me vs ed03)
I also had battery "problems".. barely get through 12 hours without needed charge with little use.
I just installed Green power app from market.. it seems to work similarly to juice defender, just is easier to configure for the noob like me, and is MUCH more limited. works on the basis of only turning on transmission intermittently.
Now I can go 18+ hours and remain above 50%.. 80% if I don't touch my phone.
Turn off wifi when you're not connected, my phone lasts 36 hours using juice defender to turn off radios when screen is off
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The radio firmware makes or breaks the battery life on this phone. I've tried every combo of roms and radio firmwares. Go back to the DL09 or EA28 (my preference) radio firmware and recalibrate your battery bro. The eclair-era radio firmwares have proven to be much better than the newer ones.
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Com Rom is built off of ED01 so it will say that.
ED03 is the latest build basically the same as ED01 just 3 fixed some bug that had a few phones stuck on EA28 if I remember correctly.
I haven't noticed much battery difference between the different modem/radios, personally it seems like the kernels make a bigger difference to me.
Also if you just clear the battery stars to calibrate the battery the battery gauge will be messed up for a couple cycles, best if you run it all the way down too. One of tie batteries I was calibrating in my phone said 0% for almost an hour before it actually turned off.
These phones aren't great on battery life anyways. One of the good things about using a kernel like OTB included in com rom is it allows you to use aftermarket batteries and still charge then in the phone. I get the Samsung batteries (I think they are technically for the epic), out of China for $2 each. Have 5 of them right now the wife and I rotate through. We also have two external chargers, we both just carry a spare battery to use if our phones die during the day.
Thanks for the tips. I think I'm going to try the different radio files and see if that helps. I guess I was just wondering why my display shows as if it's using so much battery and if that was caused by some other conflict. I've had phones with bad battery life but this is just crazy. From the time I wrote the first post (a little less than 2 hrs ago) I've gone from 56% to 36% with nothing installed or running. That's just beyond bad battery life. Something is hosed. I'll try the radios and cross my fingers.
Have you tried under the task manager and choose the ram manager do the level 2 clear, should close everything that is running, that helps me quite a bit. Also auto rotate can be turned off when you aren't using it that will help battery life too.
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Thanks for the tips. I think I'm going to try the different radio files and see if that helps. I guess I was just wondering why my display shows as if it's using so much battery and if that was caused by some other conflict. I've had phones with bad battery life but this is just crazy. From the time I wrote the first post (a little less than 2 hrs ago) I've gone from 56% to 36% with nothing installed or running. That's just beyond bad battery life. Something is hosed. I'll try the radios and cross my fingers.
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As was stated earlier, turn off wifi when you are not using it, that will help a lot. Also under wifi settings, advanced, and change the wifi sleep policy to when screen is turned off. And when you look at those percentages under battery use are not a percentage of the total battery, just a percentage of whatever battery use there is. So if you are losing 8% of your battery per hour, that 52% next to display just means display is draining 52% of that 8% per hour drain. Display is almost always going to be the top drain because of the super amoled screen.
^^^ Yeah, display is most of it. Turn brightness down (as opposed to automatic or full brightness) and see how that helps. If that doesn't help, turn off mobile data until needed, if that doesn't help (should do this anyway) recalibrate your battery and cycle it like 2 times. Give it a couple days, it will go back to normal.
Radios are the biggest battery drain, not the screen, I've used airplane mode and watched movies with four hours of screen on time and used 20% battery, all you need to do is keep wifi off when not in use, it pings something like every 20s trying to find when you're in range of networks, 3g is your second biggest killer...also do not use auto task killers, for reasons I'm too lazy to get into...lowest screen brightness setting helps some but I've found it a pain going into bright sun and having to change it, the auto dimmer works rather well
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Click on the items in battery stats and tell us how long your display has actually been on. The display on this phone can fairly easily burn through 1%/minute of being on (in fact, doing the math, my phone's display is at just under 1%/minute right now).
And, personally, I hate JuiceDefender and those apps. They're not fixing the source of the problem, just doing a half assed job of duct taping over what might be tangentally related (while doing horrible things to syncing). Try to find what is _actually_ trying to keep the network awake if that is actually what is going on (the Facebook widget is known to utterly destroy battery life). Make sure apps are using Push instead of Pull notifications where ever possible (Pull uses an astronomically large amount of battery life in comparison to Push).
I get around 15 hours on any other radio than dl09, on which I get around 24-36 hours depending on how much I'm using to phone. Also make sure you turn off wifi when you aren't using it.
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I get around 15 hours on any other radio than dl09, on which I get around 24-36 hours depending on how much I'm using to phone. Also make sure you turn off wifi when you aren't using it.
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Ok, thanks to everyone. I wanted to give you all a quick update in the hopes that this will help someone in the future. I replaced the radio file with EA28 and wow what a difference it made. I now don't see the percentages drop right before my eye and I have a shot of making it through the day. I'm also pretty surprised by the amount of battery the screen uses up. My AMOLED droid incredible usually shows the display as using the least percentage of battery. I guess the super really isn't that super.
One question I do have is if I go back down to DL09 to get the better battery life, what's the trade off?
I haven't noticed any differences between the DL09 radio and any Froyo radio.
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Some one just tonite asked me how I can possibly get 15+ hours on a single charge using my new Amaze 4G. Just to give you a bit of background, since having the vibrant and the unofficial leaks of Froyo that popped up here and there I was always looking to improve my battery life in every which way while not comprimising my user experiance. For those that dont know, the Vibrant was stuck on Eclair for a really really long time and we resorted to building Froyo roms using the i9000 source which for some reason killed battery like you would believe. After weeks of playing and testing I came to a few generic tips that seem to drastically help (beyond the obvious things you normally would expect).
This is what I personally do and have found to work, you take them or leave them makes no differance to me whatsoever, just friendly suggestions.
The Super Duper Number 1 thing I've found to HUGELY improve my battery life was instead of using gsm (4g/3g/edge) I use Wifi whenever possible. Most of my time is spent at home or work where I have routers. For whatever reason using wifi is less taxing on the battery then gsm. Also changing the wifi sleep policy to never will add to this.
Since i spend most my day inside i keep my brightness relatively low. I do not use auto brightness unless I really need to.
Obviously I keep my gps off unless I absolutely need it.
Sense has some neat power saving features to help with sync settings at certain times... i.e. during my sleeping time, it automatically change my sync to every 2 hours rather then every 15 min like its typically set to during the day.
The few steps above have helped me acheive 15+ hours on a single charge. Some other things that should help even more would be:
Limit the number of widgets you run (especially the ones that constantly update)
Dont use Live Wallpaper
Extend your sync intervals on email and social apps... instead of every 10 move to every 20
make sure when you are away from wifi you turn your wifi off
If you are in an area with poor coverage (especially 4g) turn your data to edge only
Not sure about LCD but on my samoled keeping screen colors to darkest possible (black wallpapers, etc) helps conserve a bit
Change you timeout setting to the lowest you can stand possible (15sec, 30sec)
Avoid task killer apps... let the system do its job or use the built in task killer for those apps you wish to close. (I know the verdict is out on whether they help or not, but I believe using auto app killers does more damage then good, they were designed for old android versions that didnt function the way GB does now)
That's it for now... if I can remember or think of any more I will def post. Like I said you can take or leave my advice. Please do me one favor.... if you DO NOT HAVE ANYTHING POSITIVE TO ADD THEN KEEP YOUR NEGATIVTY TO YOURSELF. It makes for a happier forum! Thanks
how do you access the internal task killer? i havent seen it.. but i see it in the applications when i manage my apps.
and i think the one thing i do wrong is never switch to wifi lol
my previous devices would drain faster on wifi than gsm
but i will give it a try
thanks
I've heard this also WiFi + radio drains more than just radio unless you have a crappy connection then you are better.off with wifi. Gr8 guide tho .... Use less sync people the weather is the same as it was 2h ago.... Unless its raining
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WiFi barely uses any battery. I can 24 hours out my amaze with only WiFi. 4G is a real battery drain
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This is from the Evo forums here>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 <<<
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well.
This was [op]'d by OneStepAhead and take no credit, just reposting to try and help.
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how do you access the internal task killer? i havent seen it.. but i see it in the applications when i manage my apps.
and i think the one thing i do wrong is never switch to wifi lol
my previous devices would drain faster on wifi than gsm
but i will give it a try
thanks
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drag down the notification tab click on quick settings click on total memory.
Radio by itself drains more battery then using wifi + radio... trust me i've been doing it for 2+ years. also had all my team mates do the same and they all confirmed a huge boost in battery. as long as you are CONNECTED to a wifi router it will not drain. now if you leave the wifi and keep it on along with radio on, that will totally demolish your battery. its the constant searching on both parts that eats the most battery. if youre solid connected... its no longer searching.
I did all that and then some and my battery shows 120 to 200 MA in standby . I used to have htc hd2 and it had 3 to 5 MA in standby . I don't know what to disable anymore , Or is this normal for this phone ?
Juice Defender is the best way to conserve battery on any android phone.... try it out on the app market. doing all these other tips you mentioned does help very little. but if you wish to have your battery last a lot longer then Juice Defender is the way to go...
Thanks!! I did all this and got juice defender ultimate
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This is from the Evo forums here>>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712990 <<<
To also help with Battery Life you can do these steps exactly: 1) Turn your device ON and Charge the device for 8 hours or more 2) Unplug the device and Turn the phone OFF and charge for 1 hour 3) Unplug the device Turn ON wait 2 minutes and Turn OFF and charge for another hour Your battery life should almost double, we have tested this on our devices and other agents have seen a major difference as well.
This was [op]'d by OneStepAhead and take no credit, just reposting to try and help.
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I was going to post the same thing, and found this here - lol. I have been trying this for a few days already.
I will add some minor modifications though. The above was done when devices and batteries were smaller. The 8 hours might be enough - see if the light changes from amber to green by then (or the battery indicator) - otherwise wait.
Then also wait on the 1st 1 hour charge while off if the light is still amber at one hour - wait until it is green. Ditto on the second one.
I did it just like the original above, and when I turned my phone on at the end - it was at 93%, so I plugged it in until it hit 100% for a while, disconnected, and then did a battery calibration (APP) at 100%
Again - I think with the bigger battery it takes longer. on a MT4G, the light was green at the end of each hour (smaller battery).
I have seen a significant improvement - and I already had battery saving profiles set up with SETCPU. I may do it one more time the way I modified it above.
PS - I always get better life on WiFi (If connected). Also, a friend lives in a weak (data) signal area, and when not on WiFi, keeping it on 2g (edge) really upped her life on a MT4G
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Thanks!! I did all this and got juice defender ultimate
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If anyone else is interested, you can get JuiceDefender Ultimate from the Amazon App Store for $1.99 right now.
Yeah i just got that one earlier
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I mainly posted that for proof of concept. The only way I ever got what I wanted out of a battery was through SBC kernels. That's one reason way I am leaving the Evo and switching to the Amaze, outside of the crap Sprint puts customers through.
Is the Ultimate app worth it?
Hell yea it's worth it. Because without it when your device is asleep it's still connected to 4g and whatever else. But with juice defender it turns off everything the moment you put the phone to sleep saving you a lot battery for when you really need to use your phone so yes. Its a must I feel like it should be mandatory on every android phone.
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Hell yea it's worth it. Because without it when your device is asleep it's still connected to 4g and whatever else. But with juice defender it turns off everything the moment you put the phone to sleep saving you a lot battery for when you really need to use your phone so yes. Its a must I feel like it should be mandatory on every android phone.
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x2 on that... It really gives you a longer battery life. and having 2 batteries also extends the life to 24 hours + of not having to sit and wait for a full charged battery.
If you want to see your Sense force closing after every restart + plus having other problems such as frozen clock, etc, then use Juice Defender. After a week of constant problems caused by this app (and I was using it on the Balance mode), I was that close to returning my Amaze, because initially I thought there was some software defect, till one day I googled it and found out the real reason. Uninstalled it and my problems disappeared at once (actually I did a factory reset just to make sure its all gone). Just a fair warning.
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If you want to see your Sense force closing after every restart + plus having other problems such as frozen clock, etc, then use Juice Defender. After a week of constant problems caused by this app (and I was using it on the Balance mode), I was that close to returning my Amaze, because initially I thought there was some software defect, till one day I googled it and found out the real reason. Uninstalled it and my problems disappeared at once (actually I did a factory reset just to make sure its all gone). Just a fair warning.
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Been on it for a week and and I haven't seen those type of problems and I'm using aggressive...
I was using Ultimate v. 3.80, tried it on my girlfriend's phone (she was using the free version before I installed the ultimate), started force closing too (she was about to kill me haha)... Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1315494
P.s. Juice Defender team said the problem occurs with Plus and Ultimate because they use API call, which is incompatible with Android compatibility test suite... Im just saying all this so if people start getting these launcher force closes after restart, not to freak out and just uninstall it...
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Been on it for a week and and I haven't seen those type of problems and I'm using aggressive...
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Me either since i switched to ultimate.. Works better cuz you can customize.. The free one hust kills whatever is power hungry
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I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
nrfitchett4 said:
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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SightSeeker said:
This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
destro158 said:
That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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We're pretty close.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.
What exactly is bluesleep? My wife was getting terrible battery life on her X2, so I rooted it and installed DKZ's CM10 to try and get better battery life. I saw something about bluesleep in the OP, but am having a hard time understanding it. She uses bluetooth in the car, and from what I read, it seems like the bluetooth has some effect on this bluesleep. If she turns on bluetooth in the car, should she turn it off after she leaves the car? If for some reason there's a day that she doesn't need bluetooth, should she still turn it on and off after a reboot to enable this bluesleep? I've been trying to read up on this, but information is so scattered on the issue so it's really hard to understand it.
Hey there! The bluesleep fix basically a fix that allows your phone to go into deep sleep when using ICS ROMs. Deep sleep puts your cpu into a low power state when it's not in use, saving you battery life. You can read the description on the bluesleep fix here:
EDIT: I suppose I should note that the bluesleep fix is not currently working on CM10.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864547
I would recommend against your wife turning her Bluetooth on and off while using CM10. The more you mess with it, the more likely you'll have problems with your phone audio. I leave it on all the time and have not seen a noticeable difference in battery usage (nor have I had audio problems since). That's only my experience, however, your mileage may vary.
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ROMFlashah said:
Hey there! The bluesleep fix basically a fix that allows your phone to go into deep sleep when using ICS ROMs. Deep sleep puts your cpu into a low power state when it's not in use, saving you battery life. You can read the description on the bluesleep fix here:
EDIT: I suppose I should note that the bluesleep fix is not currently working on CM10.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1864547
I would recommend against your wife turning her Bluetooth on and off while using CM10. The more you mess with it, the more likely you'll have problems with your phone audio. I leave it on all the time and have not seen a noticeable difference in battery usage (nor have I had audio problems since). That's only my experience, however, your mileage may vary.
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Thanks for explaining. I really feel bad for her cause the X2 is a terrible phone, and battery makes it that much worse. I feel like it's my fault cause I steered her towards Android instead of iOS, unfortunately she picked the X2.
It seems like turning bluetooth on and off also causes calls to drop after 3 seconds or so (she was literally in tears from this bug and ended up throwing the phone). Eventually we figured out that leaving the bluetooth on without turning it off fixed that problem, but then she tried facebook and it would force close in a few seconds. The X2 seems to be a good phone to build up stress levels, lol. It appears that 2.3.4 stock is the best way to go when it comes to battery life. Custom roms just seem to have too many issues, not that I blame developers. Most stayed away from this phone for a good reason. The upside is that our contract is up in about three months. If you could recommend the least bug prone rom with decent battery life, I would really appreciate it.
Absolutely! From my experience, all of the ICS/JB ROMs have some more battery drain than the GB based ones. Keep in mind that when we run those, we're using OS's that haven't been fully fit to our phones.
If I had to make a recommendation in a ROM with decent battery life as well as stability, I'd go with Eclipse. It's not as flashy or as customizable as some of the others, but it's a great daily driver. You can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198857
You'll need to be on 2.3.5 for this ROM.
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Thank you for your help.