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I just installed the new Rom TRIGGER 3.3-beta. This rom is very fast and the GPS is great. I also put on bali 1.8.4. But the battery drains fast. If you guys tried it out, and found a way to save battery can you please let tell us what you did to control it. I know its in beta version and is being tweaked on.
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Yea Im using the same Rom. Hate to break it to you but the battery life on most all android devices sucks. I have had 5 different android devices and the battery sucked on all of them. didn't matter if it was stock or custom Rom. ether way these devices just have ****ty battery life. You can make it a little better by turning down brightness and messing with other settings but when it comes down to it. it still sucks! Just my 2 cents!
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I just installed the new Rom TRIGGER 3.3-beta. This rom is very fast and the GPS is great. I also put on bali 1.8.4. But the battery drains fast. If you guys tried it out, and found a way to save battery can you please let tell us what you did to control it. I know its in beta version and is being tweaked on.
Thank you
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Did you recondition your battery after flashing? I've had pretty good battery performance with the Bali kernels. I also tend to use the KB1 modem. It seems to give me the best battery. But each phone is a bit individualistic, and what works well for someone may not work as well for next person.
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Yea Im using the same Rom. Hate to break it to you but the battery life on most all android devices sucks. I have had 5 different android devices and the battery sucked on all of them. didn't matter if it was stock or custom Rom. ether way these devices just have ****ty battery life. You can make it a little better by turning down brightness and messing with other settings but when it comes down to it. it still sucks! Just my 2 cents!
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This is untrue as I have owned an android device since the G1. The battery did suck on the G1, but by no means does the battery suck on every android device. My guess is you probably never calibrated your battery or you just used it very heavily. There's also the possibility that every rom you tried sucked on those devices. I have consistently gotten a full day or more with Bionix NextGen V2 with the Bali kernel with moderate to heavy usage. It is true if you lower the brightness,turn off wifi,bluetooth and gps when you aren't using it that it will increase your battery life though.
I have reconfigured the battery and have the brightness turned all the way down. Dont use WiFi but battery still sucks compared to other smart phones.
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can any of you post a screenie of this rom pls
Battery usage is hard to compare since there are so many variables. In my experience I generally have better battery life when visiting my parents. The area I live in is somewhat of a black hole for signal and I notice more battery drain here with the same rom/kernal setup and similar usage pattern. I believe the weak signal here causes a higher battery drain over all.
Of course this might not apply to your situation but it could be worth considering.
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I have reconfigured the battery and have the brightness turned all the way down. Dont use WiFi but battery still sucks compared to other smart phones.
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Do you remember to put it on the charger when you go memes
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I have reconfigured the battery and have the brightness turned all the way down. Dont use WiFi but battery still sucks compared to other smart phones.
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I'm not going to argue with you, I'm just going to state what the facts are.
THE BATTERY DOES NOT SUCK, MOST LIKELY IS USER ERROR
Lol. It isn't user error. I think you might just use your phone more heavily than others. One thing you have to realize when comparing the battery life of the phones are a) battery size, b) screen size, c) smartphone or stone age phone, d)**** you've done to the phone including ROM's/Kernals/Apps/Sync.
Personally, on days that I am working, I get about 8-10 hours out of my battery before it dies. When I am not at work I get about 23 hours out of my battery.
what is the major difference between trigger 3.2 and trigger 3.3?
Try using overstock instead, I've had pretty good battery life with it.
Im running trigger3.3 beta with overstock and the battery is great.
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so any new tricks that you guys have found to boost up this rom?
might try this later, i could say the battery on my vibrant is better then the iphone and ive gone through all versions of the iphone.
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Yea Im using the same Rom. Hate to break it to you but the battery life on most all android devices sucks. I have had 5 different android devices and the battery sucked on all of them. didn't matter if it was stock or custom Rom. ether way these devices just have ****ty battery life. You can make it a little better by turning down brightness and messing with other settings but when it comes down to it. it still sucks! Just my 2 cents!
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bahaha you must be kidding. like someone else said, it depends on soooo many variables and phones. I was running trigger rom and overstock kernel and was going down about 1-2% battery every hour while screen was off. I listen to pandora every morning for an hour to hour and half and would go down 5%. I've sat on the web watching tv on TV shows stream app for about 1-2 hours and went down like 15-20% when brightness is lowered.
It's all about the brightness, killing apps that enjoy sucking battery life and enjoy run constantly, and running an OC/UV kernel. You can also change it from the usual 3g/H connection down to E (edge) which uses alot less power also. Turn off or turn down auto sync on certain apps like facebook from every 10 minutes down to every few hours.
The screen is the biggest power consumer, so lower that, set it to automatic or all the way down to lowest brightness to save quite a bit of battery when using the phone.
Usually the second largest power consumer (if ur not a huge user of just one certain app) is when the screen is off and the phone is syncing and just running android. the solution is If you can find a decent UV kernel (overstock for android 2.2 was what I was using when on 2.2), you can slow your CPU down. Like on my vibrant I made a profile (on the SetCPU app) to undervolt it from 1,000mhz down to a conservative 400mhz max and 100mhz minimum when screen is off. This is very easy to do. sometimes I'd watch shows on that. I usually left it at a conservative setting and 800mhz and 100mhz min all day long when screen was on, sometimes at 400mhz if i wasnt doing much. It worked wonderfully for me.
Moral of the story, there are plenty of things to make your phones battery last longer than it normally would. The big one probably to get a well known kernel that can UV, then get SetCPU and make a few profiles to make your phone use less power.
BOOM!
First off I want to thank Nitro for Eclipse it is by far the best my phone has run since purchased.
I have noticed tho on .5 that my battery seems to get used up a lot faster. Has anyone else noticed this? I know that Nitro said in his ROM OP that you could change the cpu frequencies in the init.d script. Has this worked for anyone?
If so could you please let me/us know what you did to get better battery usage.
My battery too died really fast when using v5. I adjusted the cpu freq to 216mhz and calibrated the battery. Also tried Overmind's init hack w/ no luck. I have the extended battery and it would need charged after 6 hrs or so. I use my phone a lot but I used to get 11+ hours under similar use..
I recently went back .2.2 where I had better luck w/ battery life. Gonna test this version and hope my battery isn't on its way out.
EDIT: After going back to .2.2 I'm now sitting at 30% with 16+ hrs of similar heavy usage. Nothing against Nitro's v5 but I've had MUCH better battery life on .2.2 Never gave much thought to the reboot "fix".
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Someone said something about sleep states being messed up so after you charge your phone reboot. I've been doing it and im at 40% after a day and a half of moderate use
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I have stayed on eclipse v .4 and get about 8 hours running at 600mhz.
If only we could get custom kernels. Got 1day 3 hours out of my og Droid at ulv 600mhz
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I have stayed on eclipse v .4 and get about 8 hours running at 600mhz.
If only we could get custom kernels. Got 1day 3 hours out of my og Droid at ulv 600mhz
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How do you change frequencies? I was trying to change governors but it wouldn't let me
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The only way I was able to change governers is using the Droid overclock app and installing busybox OR flashing a init.d hack. Not really sure how the app opened up the governors for me, but I know for a fact that init d hack works.
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So there is no real fix as of yet. I am not going to reboot my phone after each charge, that is obviously a band aid fix and I actually like to see how long my phone runs (well) without needing a reboot.
I really like 0.5 so I'd rather not go back to 0.2.2 just for the better battery usage.
It cannot be a kernel issue because since GB was released the Kernel never changed and it hasn't been since I flashed Eclipse 0.5 that my battery life has decreased.
It must be something to do with the ROM, I am sure it will be straightened out soon. One of the genius script writers will provide a hack or there will be settings tweak that helps. Until then it is not nearly a deal breaker, I can still use my phone like normal. It is just something I happened to notice now that we have 1% battery level increments. 5% in my case, I'm running TheMuffStuff's Cyan Ice Cream Blur.
I'm Pretty Sure The Kernel Did Change, Kinda The Big Topic With 2nd-init.
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they already did its called hold the power button, click reboot and wait 20 seconds. also someone made some automated way to do this. you just choose to ignore it.
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they already did its called hold the power button, click reboot and wait 20 seconds. also someone made some automated way to do this. you just choose to ignore it.
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Sorry I don't mean to be rude or ignore the fact that rebooting fixes the battery usage just feel it is more of a band aid than a fix.
Mikey, I apologize I didn't realize that the kernel was able to be modified with a locked boot loader. I do realize that 2nd init hijacks certain process within the kernel and allows for modifications I just didn't know that the actual kernel we were running in eclipse .5 differed from the stock GB kernel.
I will be the first to admit that I have a lot to learn when it comes to the Android OS. I am very thankful to those with the knowledge to bring out these phones full potential.
Just Wanna Be Clear I Was Referring That Gingerbread Kernel Is Different From Froyo.
Not Stock Gingerbread To Eclipse Rom.
I Could Be Wrong And That's Fine, Wanted To Be Clear If I'm Wrong.
I never noticed the battery problem 'cause I'm used to rebooting my phone every morning anyway (coming from a long time windows mobile user) that stupid piece of crap got me in that habit, but this phone is fast as all get out. you can hit reboot, go take your morning whiz and it'll be back up and running before you even start peein!
it's like the playstation 3 of smartphones, just be patient and wait for the software to catch up with the hardware.
maybe adjust your usage a little too. turn off all your stupid data-hungry apps. the 3g radio in this thing sucks juice like nobody's business. but you can play games/music/movies all day long in airplane mode.
I've already gotten 7 solid hours of playin music + stupid zombies while traveling. I'll turn my radio on only when I want to be bothered.
it surprises me that even the wifi doesn't kill it like the 3g radio does. if I'm on wifi all day long my battery life is AWESOME. I've even taken out the 3g tweaks from my eclipse.5 and now I have no trouble getting 12+ hours between charges. the absolute worst thing for the battery is music + wifi tether (I like using the phone hooked to my speakers for general music listening 'cause I don't miss any notifications)
the fact of the matter is, these phones will never have good battery life until the radio gets a serious update/overhaul. it seems like it transmits at FULL power constantly even if it's not necessary.
you want battery savings? turn off background data and put it in max batt saver mode. it doesn't make things that much slower and as soon as you wake the phone it reconnects pretty quickly and updates whatever you were missing out on. that and honestly, it's nice to not be notified about every piece of junkmail that reaches my inbox on a daily basis. people can text you just as easily as e-mail, and if they can't respect that, they don't deserve your respect in return.
who even had a cellphone 15 years ago, let alone all this other crap that comes along with "smart" phones. we all got along fine without them before.
come to think of it, I have never had issues with music skipping either, but I don't let my phone frivolously piss away data either. something to think about, but I remember the days when I paid by the MEGABYTE for data service too.
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I never noticed the battery problem 'cause I'm used to rebooting my phone every morning anyway (coming from a long time windows mobile user) that stupid piece of crap got me in that habit, but this phone is fast as all get out. you can hit reboot, go take your morning whiz and it'll be back up and running before you even start peein!
it's like the playstation 3 of smartphones, just be patient and wait for the software to catch up with the hardware.
maybe adjust your usage a little too. turn off all your stupid data-hungry apps. the 3g radio in this thing sucks juice like nobody's business. but you can play games/music/movies all day long in airplane mode.
I've already gotten 7 solid hours of playin music + stupid zombies while traveling. I'll tu7rn my radio on only when I want to be bothered.
it surprises me that even the wifi doesn't kill it like the 3g radio does. if I'm on wifi all day long my battery life is AWESOME. I've even taken out the 3g tweaks from my eclipse.5 and now I have no trouble getting 12+ hours between charges. the absolute worst thing for the battery is music + wifi tether (I like using the phone hooked to my speakers for general music listening 'cause I don't miss any notifications)
the fact of the matter is, these phones will never have good battery life until the radio gets a serious update/overhaul. it seems like it transmits at FULL power constantly even if it's not necessary.
you want battery savings? turn off background data and put it in max batt saver mode. it doesn't make things that much slower and as soon as you wake the phone it reconnects pretty quickly and updates whatever you were missing out on. that and honestly, it's nice to not be notified about every piece of junkmail that reaches my inbox on a daily basis. people can text you just as easily as e-mail, and if they can't respect that, they don't deserve your respect in return.
who even had a cellphone 15 years ago, let alone all this other crap that comes along with "smart" phones. we all got along fine without them before.
come to think of it, I have never had issues with music skipping either, but I don't let my phone frivolously piss away data either. something to think about, but I remember the days when I paid by the MEGABYTE for data service too.
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Dunno how others feel but I liked this post.
I recommend juice defender I love to set it to turn off all data while the screen is off. And I set it to turn it on every two hours for a minute to retrieve gmail and such. Has helped save so much battery lately and works great. That way I don't have to mess around with going g into settings to turn off data and on every time I wanna check. I also leave it in my notification bar so I can just pull down and tap and it cuts my data. Also have seen I can set it to turn off and on data when using any app I just haven't configured that setting yet. I have noticed up to 4hrs more battery when I have juice defender enabled .
I agree completely on the radio. Even when I have a very very good signal if im not using wifi and pulling data from 3g my battery has been almost completely drained within a few hours of heavy use just browsing the web. Its crazy how much juice it sucks down.
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I never noticed the battery problem 'cause I'm used to rebooting my phone every morning anyway (coming from a long time windows mobile user) that stupid piece of crap got me in that habit, but this phone is fast as all get out. you can hit reboot, go take your morning whiz and it'll be back up and running before you even start peein!
it's like the playstation 3 of smartphones, just be patient and wait for the software to catch up with the hardware.
maybe adjust your usage a little too. turn off all your stupid data-hungry apps. the 3g radio in this thing sucks juice like nobody's business. but you can play games/music/movies all day long in airplane mode.
I've already gotten 7 solid hours of playin music + stupid zombies while traveling. I'll turn my radio on only when I want to be bothered.
it surprises me that even the wifi doesn't kill it like the 3g radio does. if I'm on wifi all day long my battery life is AWESOME. I've even taken out the 3g tweaks from my eclipse.5 and now I have no trouble getting 12+ hours between charges. the absolute worst thing for the battery is music + wifi tether (I like using the phone hooked to my speakers for general music listening 'cause I don't miss any notifications)
the fact of the matter is, these phones will never have good battery life until the radio gets a serious update/overhaul. it seems like it transmits at FULL power constantly even if it's not necessary.
you want battery savings? turn off background data and put it in max batt saver mode. it doesn't make things that much slower and as soon as you wake the phone it reconnects pretty quickly and updates whatever you were missing out on. that and honestly, it's nice to not be notified about every piece of junkmail that reaches my inbox on a daily basis. people can text you just as easily as e-mail, and if they can't respect that, they don't deserve your respect in return.
who even had a cellphone 15 years ago, let alone all this other crap that comes along with "smart" phones. we all got along fine without them before.
come to think of it, I have never had issues with music skipping either, but I don't let my phone frivolously piss away data either. something to think about, but I remember the days when I paid by the MEGABYTE for data service too.
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These are definitely words of wisdom. I think everyone is expecting to run there phones full blast and have no drain.... Maybe they need to hook a solar panel to there phone so it can be charged at all times...lol
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think everyone is expecting to run there phones full blast and have no drain.... Maybe they need to hook a solar panel to there phone so it can be charged at all times...lol
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Haha I was actually going to buy one of those if they aren't huge since I like to use my.phone a lot when im out on a "beer finding" day. Go bar hopping to crafted beer bars a lot and its nice to not have to ask the bartender if there is an outlet I can use hahaha.
I do think the battery should be lasting a little.longer than it does tho wit moderate use than it does 4 me
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These are definitely words of wisdom. I think everyone is expecting to run there phones full blast and have no drain.... Maybe they need to hook a solar panel to there phone so it can be charged at all times...lol
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Read an article not too long ago that described a company that's pioneering a solar charging layer for the touchscreen.
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I will definitely check out juice defender. I am by no means complaining about the battery usage at all. My phone still lasts all day with the same amount of use I have always had.
I had just noticed a difference going from Eclipse .2 to .5, and it was even mentioned by Nitro that people may experience a higher battery usage with this rom. I was simply wondering if anyone had applied a script or modified a setting (as stated in OP) that made a difference. I tried to change the cpu values in the script but it didn't make a difference for me. If anyone did make a change please post the change you made and how you made it.
Sounds like rebooting after charging, or using software to modify data usage is what works the best for now.
I need some advice on how to tune for better battery life when using the UnOriginal ROM v1.4.6.
I ran UnNamed for some time before switching over to this ROM and never had any battery issues so I am a little in the dark as to how to go about finding out what is killing my battery. I love the ROM and have no intention of switching.
Battery life is roughly 8-9 hours in normal use. With everything shut down battery life is off the charts. 6 hours unplugged and at 95% so far today.
I suspect sync, but I rely on Google calendar and Gmail so I don't wish to go without.
I spent many hours yesterday reading posts without finding anything so a point in the right direction would be appreciated.
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That battery was what I was getting just buy a Korean OEM 2000mah battery and be done with it
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There are lots of things you can do to diagnose and resolve battery issues.
(I don't know what your current setup is other than ROM)
1. Get the free app Better Battery Stats.
2. Get free app CPU spy.
3. Check the thread for known battery drainers.
4. Use setCPU w/ profiles.
5. Check your kernel threads, some versions have better battery usage then others.
6. Look into init.d scripts such as init.doh
If the problem is high Android OS usage with lots of wlan_rx_wake wakelocks - sorry, you need to switch off of the horribly broken UCKK6 base to fix it.
One thing that's helped me is Tasker. I use it to turn off data when the screen is off and turn data on when the screen is on. I also use SetCPU to undervolt a little, and set my max CPU speed to 1000mhz.
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If the problem is high Android OS usage with lots of wlan_rx_wake wakelocks - sorry, you need to switch off of the horribly broken UCKK6 base to fix it.
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He's not on KK6, he's on UnOriginal. It's KH7 based.
notiones said:
I need some advice on how to tune for better battery life when using the UnOriginal ROM v1.4.6.
I ran UnNamed for some time before switching over to this ROM and never had any battery issues so I am a little in the dark as to how to go about finding out what is killing my battery. I love the ROM and have no intention of switching.
Battery life is roughly 8-9 hours in normal use. With everything shut down battery life is off the charts. 6 hours unplugged and at 95% so far today.
I suspect sync, but I rely on Google calendar and Gmail so I don't wish to go without.
I spent many hours yesterday reading posts without finding anything so a point in the right direction would be appreciated.
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Something that helps is turning off Data Backup, which is in Settings > Privacy. You should also try to disable as much syncing as possible, as that will prevent the CPU from entering deep sleep.
SetCPU lets you set profiles, like when the screen is off set the CPU speed to 200mhz-500mhz. You can undervolt the CPU and underclock it for even more power saving. I have mine at 200-800mhz and it's still very fast.
I never knew the UCKK6 was horribly broken? It has always provided me excellent reception and call quality. Much better than anything else I have tried. It is only since flashing the most recent version of UnOriginal that I have had any success with anything else.
Knock on wood, I have had excellent results with everything I have flashed.
Thanks for the feedback. I have quite a bit to go on now and am confident I will find and annihilate the culprit. Plus I found some more threads that were right in front of me.
For some chucked up reason it will not let me say thanks to anyone. What a crock of #$%. So, "Thanks"! I promise to come back later and thank everyone properly.
Thanks for the heads up on the 2000mah battery. I'll check it out.
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I never knew the UCKK6 was horribly broken? It has always provided me excellent reception and call quality. Much better than anything else I have tried. It is only since flashing the most recent version of UnOriginal that I have had any success with anything else.
Knock on wood, I have had excellent results with everything I have flashed.
Thanks for the feedback. I have quite a bit to go on now and am confident I will find and annihilate the culprit. Plus I found some more threads that were right in front of me.
Thanks for the heads up on the 2000mah battery. I'll check it out.
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I'm glad that you like my ROM, just so you know it is not UCKK6 it is UCKH7. UCKK6 has broken drivers which will cause poor battery life.
Good luck and happy tweaking!
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I'm glad that you like my ROM, just so you know it is not UCKK6 it is UCKH7. UCKK6 has broken drivers which will cause poor battery life.
Good luck and happy tweaking!
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Yep. The ROM is excellent. And yes, I knew it was UCKH7. If I suggested otherwise, it was my mistake.
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Yep. The ROM is excellent. And yes, I knew it was UCKH7. If I suggested otherwise, it was my mistake.
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Love the avatar btw, I've replaced enough clutch disks in my life lol.
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Love the avatar btw, I've replaced enough clutch disks in my life lol.
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Thanks. My daughter put it together for my birthday.
Thanks again for the ROM. I noticed you were moving on to ICS so I'll look forward to flashing your work when it comes out.
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Thanks. My daughter put it together for my birthday.
Thanks again for the ROM. I noticed you were moving on to ICS so I'll look forward to flashing your work when it comes out.
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I won't be doing anything for a while, I'm too OCD about smoothness and battery life.
I'm noticing this too. With my "tablet" micro-minimal usage, each hour of everything OFF and it laying on the desk takes about 1% of battery. Why? I deleted even more "bloatware" in my opinion, set cpu on a pretty conservative diet, etc. Never had this issue on bone stock ATT rom, ever.
When I started this thread I was losing 10-15% an hour and could not determine why. It was not one of the usual villains as far as I could tell and Better Battery Stats was not giving me the answers I was looking for. So, I simply started over from scratch and now, even with sync, FB, WWF, and GPS active, I get exceptional battery life. I wish I could have pin pointed the culprit, but unfortunately I did not.
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Unnamed was my first room the early on versions i had great battery life then i switched the the final version and felt like i was bleeding Battery life. I switched to AOKP and seems to be bleeding as well. I have read Phone Bricker seems to be good i did try it but the email app wasn't working.
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Unnamed was my first room the early on versions i had great battery life then i switched the the final version and felt like i was bleeding Battery life. I switched to AOKP and seems to be bleeding as well. I have read Phone Bricker seems to be good i did try it but the email app wasn't working.
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If you can handle switching back to GB, check out UnOriginal.
I've had a combination of two weird / PITA problems since upgrading past LE6 leak:
1. Slow to lock GPS
2. REALLY bad battery life (losing 10% an hour while idle in some cases).
In the last few days I was at a conference with known poor signal indoors, so I started toggling Airplane mode on during some of the sessions. I noticed a DRAMATIC change in battery life. I thought the improvement was too good for just having disabled for about 2 hours each day, so the last two days I've toggled Airplane mode on and immediately back off after heavy use... I've done this today and after frequent use repeated the toggle routine. At the time of this posting I'm sitting at 70% at a time of day I'd usually be around half that.
Anyone willing to try this and let me know if I've just been lucky the last few days?
More info:
I've run CPU Spy and I know my phone isn't going to deep sleep as frequently as it should. I installed better battery stats and nothing was causing partial or kernel wakes so I was about to give up.
I believe this may stem from the GPS having crappy lock time, since I frequently use Facebook on the phone and it activates GPS (and doesn't F'n lock) I figured airplane mode after use couldn't hurt.
Qualifiers for a valid test include the two problems I mentioned above. If you're lucky enough to not have these issues, please recommend your settings... WiFi is off with screen off, i'm using screen filter at 38%... I've tried task killers, I've tried many different ROMs... this is the first time I've seen any noticeable improvement.
I heard that powering down your phone completely works even better...not sure though, might need to test it.
Jk. But yeah, it's well known that the radios are one of the biggest drains of battery besides the screen. Turning them off will obviously increase battery life, but it also turns your phone into a big iPod touch, as you can't receive calls, texts, etc. Add for the GPS issue, several roms have zero GPS issues, try them out, see which gives you best GPS. And turn it off when you're not using it.
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I heard that powering down your phone completely works even better...not sure though, might need to test it.
Jk. But yeah, it's well known that the radios are one of the biggest drains of battery besides the screen. Turning them off will obviously increase battery life, but it also turns your phone into a big iPod touch, as you can't receive calls, texts, etc. Add for the GPS issue, several roms have zero GPS issues, try them out, see which gives you best GPS. And turn it off when you're not using it.
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The battery life advantage exists even when the radio was only toggled off for about 1s. I'm no longer leaving it off for hours.
Yeah, probably because it kills the GPS searching for satellites. So either flash a new modem or ROM. I leave my GPS on 100 percent of the time, as when it works properly there is no battery drain when an app isn't using it. The GPS is known to be hit or miss with lf6, so take that and fix it with a modem flash.
Edit: in other words, your toggle method won't improve battery anymore than a properly working modem, and it's a lot more of a hassle to you to keep toggling instead of trying different modems
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Yeah, probably because it kills the GPS searching for satellites. So either flash a new modem or ROM. I leave my GPS on 100 percent of the time, as when it works properly there is no battery drain when an app isn't using it. The GPS is known to be hit or miss with lf6, so take that and fix it with a modem flash.
Edit: in other words, your toggle method won't improve battery anymore than a properly working modem, and it's a lot more of a hassle to you to keep toggling instead of trying different modems
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Do you have a recommendation on a modem then? I'm currently using King-Kang (love AOKP and Paranoid Android... Dagr8 did one hell of an integration). I've left the kernel and modem alone since then.
I'm using LE2, you really just have to try them and see what works best for you.
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hey, so i have ran pretty much every "jelly bean" rom out there for this phone for about 2-2.5 months. maybe less. note sure..
anyway, the battery has been horrible! on every rom.. I have a 2700 mAMP battery, and a regular Samsung battery. I have to use both once a day for this phone.. now I have no idea what is making the phone loose percentage after percentage of battery as fast as it has for me, but everytime i post i get about 0 luck from people that either have the same issue, or just people saying they have heard it a million times. i probably should have put this in the "Q&A" thread, but maybe i forgot. can someone, preferably more than one, help me out here?? i don't get how other people say they have 8 or more hours of screen on time with half the battery left. it just doesn't make since. I am loving the android system. but this could be anything! the apps in the background. the kernel, maybe I didn't clean my cache or something. i can't raise my brightness up to far or it'll drain my battery, jamie in the paranoid thread said he had his batter on 100 percent and had excellent battery. so I'm far from confused here. do I need to get another phone, or what. very much apprentice the help from as many people as possible. I love my phone, but I hate that i have to focus on using two battery a day with this phone.
Same here battery draining pretty quick on all jb ROMs.
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Battery usage is highly subjective..
It's nearly impossible to determine a baseline Usage expectancy, simply due to the untold number of variables that drain the battery.
We know the obvious power users ....the display, wifi, data ..
But it gets far more difficult to track the Usage after that.
We know that JB is not optimized for our device, but it's getting better, and until we see a true JB kernel with the rom matched to it, the battery is going to suffer.
Then of course we have the many services that users run, along with countless apps ...
Long story short ....maybe a more stable choice would work better? ?
Like ICS, At least until JB calms down a bit ...
I'm actually running Saurom as I type this ...and my battery life is excellent.
JB just isn't quite there yet ...IMHO ....g
to get better battery turn brightness to lowest usable setting, turn off sync for any non essential apps, turn off soft key lights, flash a kernel that lets you under volt and under clock, try different govonors and io schedulers, turn off gps, put in airplane mode when not using. these should help. keep in mind cell signal strength will also impact battery and 4g will kill it faster then 3g. i am on cm9 stable under clocked to 1.18 undervolt all by 25mv( not much change but i like to be safe) ondemand and sio and get amazing battery life.
What's your screen-on time? 4 hours is the close to the limit on ANY rom for our Notes. You have to make sure it's not some sort of confirmation bias going on here.
gregsarg said:
Battery usage is highly subjective..
It's nearly impossible to determine a baseline Usage expectancy, simply due to the untold number of variables that drain the battery.
We know the obvious power users ....the display, wifi, data ..
But it gets far more difficult to track the Usage after that.
We know that JB is not optimized for our device, but it's getting better, and until we see a true JB kernel with the rom matched to it, the battery is going to suffer.
Then of course we have the many services that users run, along with countless apps ...
Long story short ....maybe a more stable choice would work better? ?
Like ICS, At least until JB calms down a bit ...
I'm actually running Saurom as I type this ...and my battery life is excellent.
JB just isn't quite there yet ...IMHO ....g
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thank you so much man! i actually went to at&t and they mentioned that too. they said the kernel im using isn't fully optimized for the phone yet. other words. the phone wont support it. he said basic stock ics is the best thing to do now. he also said. these forums are for phones from Europe as well. not just for AT&T in the us. again, the ROMS these devs are making are not supported for the phone, and is kinda like a mimic of something its not. he said jelly bean was out, but i don't know where to get it. can someone tell me how to install ICS, because when I download it, and use KIES, it installs the system, but never fully completes the process.
trancemusic+1 said:
thank you so much man! i actually went to at&t and they mentioned that too. they said the kernel im using isn't fully optimized for the phone yet. other words. the phone wont support it. he said basic stock ics is the best thing to do now. he also said. these forums are for phones from Europe as well. not just for AT&T in the us. again, the ROMS these devs are making are not supported for the phone, and is kinda like a mimic of something its not. he said jelly bean was out, but i don't know where to get it. can someone tell me how to install ICS, because when I download it, and use KIES, it installs the system, but never fully completes the process.
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Sure...
At the top of the general note section, you will find the "note super everything thread"....
Scroll down to find the ICS info you need...
There are many great ICS roms, and you will find that your phone is "MUCH" better running on the software that was intended for it..
Do the homework in the superthread, and read, read, read......then if you have more questions....just PM me, and we'll get ya up and running....g
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Sure...
At the top of the general note section, you will find the "note super everything thread"....
Scroll down to find the ICS info you need...
There are many great ICS roms, and you will find that your phone is "MUCH" better running on the software that was intended for it..
Do the homework in the superthread, and read, read, read......then if you have more questions....just PM me, and we'll get ya up and running....g
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thank you so much! I will get right to this
I never got more then 2 hours screen on time on any ROM, just figured that was normal.
Ugh.
That is low scout ....
I pull 3 hours average ...
Must be the internut ..on XDA ....LOL ......g
gregsarg said:
Ugh.
That is low scout ....
I pull 3 hours average ...
Must be the internut ..on XDA ....LOL ......g
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I'm in the same boat as manel, never gotten anywhere above 2h on screen time. Maybe additional 10m or so. Figured it was normal lol
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Battery life is purely subjective. No two people will have the same experience.
Have you used an app like CPU spy to make sure the phone is going into deep sleep? Rogue apps keeping the phone in a wake lock can seriously affect battery life, but its hard to say if anybody's apps are doing that, because we all use different apps and there's no list of apps that keep a wake lock, so you need to use something like CPU spy to see if you are going to deep sleep when your screen is off.
Related to apps as well, don't use any task killers or constantly kill apps when you exit them. A lot of people think killing apps is necessary when it completely is not. Android, since donut or eclair, manages its RAM very well, so that when a properly written app (ie. It's not keeping a wake lock) is in RAM, it's just in a frozen state not using any CPU cycles. Constantly killing well written apps hurts battery life, because restarting the app fresh is much more processor intensive than pulling a frozen app out of RAM. Plus you don't have to deal with annoying loading/splash screens.
Also, like others have said, using the lowest brightness possible, and turning off sync for any unnecessary apps will help battery life. GPS doesn't matter so long as you don't keep something running that uses it. If an app isn't using GPS, then GPS isn't using battery. I always leave my GPS on and do not notice a difference compared to turning it off. If you're paranoid about GPS leave it off, but it's annoying to have to turn it on every time you want to use an app that requires it. You can also disable location access in most apps like Facebook, twitter, etc where you don't need GPS really, and that will make leaving it on even better. If you don't use GPS much anyways, leave it off.
Like somebody said, your cell signal can greatly affect your performance, so use WiFi whenever possible, and even put a data toggle in your pulldown so you can disable cell data when you don't really need it. WiFi in general uses less battery than cellular data, so I use it whenever possible.
I've also noticed that how you use your screen on time also has a great effect on battery life. When I have extended lengths of constant screen on time where the phone starts heating up and whatnot, I see much less battery life than if I just use my phone here and there intermittently. Long stretches of screen on time stress the processor and battery heating them up and making them less efficient, where as short stretches allow the processor time to stay at a cooler, more efficient temperature. If you game at all on your phone, you've definitely experienced this, as you know that your phone heats up due to the extended lengths of screen on time and heavy processor usage. Gaming is a no-no if you're striving for better battery life.
With following those guidelines, my Note sees about 3.5 screen on time with JB on Gubment Cheeze. I would get around that on ICS as well, and I don't remember what it was on GB. Fellow testers and teammates for Gubment Cheeze have seen up to 4 hours and a little more even on JB, so it's definitely possible to have decent battery life on JB.
It really comes down to your own personal usage.
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(quoted)(Related to apps as well, don't use any task killers or constantly kill apps when you exit them. A lot of people think killing apps is necessary when it completely is not. Android, since donut or eclair, manages its RAM very well, so that when a properly written app (ie. It's not keeping a wake lock) is in RAM, it's just in a frozen state not using any CPU cycles. Constantly killing well written apps hurts battery life, because restarting the app fresh is much more processor intensive than pulling a frozen app out of RAM. Plus you don't have to deal with annoying loading/splash screens. )quoted)
I was not aware of this info....many thanks for the heads up...I always supposed that since the ram was consumed with applications, that those apps were pulling CPU usage from the device...
that is clearly not the case......g
Yep, no problem. If you go back to a touchwiz based ROM and go into the stock task manager, it shows you what's taking up RAM, as well as the CPU usage of each thing in the list. If the apps are working properly, pretty much everything will show very little to 0% CPU usage, and ones that are using it heavily will even be highlighted in yellow or red depending on their CPU usage %age. Unfortunately aosp based ROMs don't have that task manager, one of the things I miss from touchwiz.
Every time a non-techy friend buys a new android, it seems the overly aggressive sales rep that sold the phone to them 'helped' them get to know the phone and installed a task killer, specifically advanced task killer. I always just uninstall it without telling them and see how long it takes them to notice lol.
It's still useful in certain instances, for example if you have an app that doesn't run well but you still like/need to use, but in general practice android does a much better job of managing itself. Besides, if you have an app that you know runs poorly and hogs your processor in the background, but you still need to use it, with most aosp based ROMs you can set your phone so that long pressing the back button kills the current app, essentially making task killers useless.
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welchertc said:
Battery life is purely subjective. No two people will have the same experience.
Have you used an app like CPU spy to make sure the phone is going into deep sleep? Rogue apps keeping the phone in a wake lock can seriously affect battery life, but its hard to say if anybody's apps are doing that, because we all use different apps and there's no list of apps that keep a wake lock, so you need to use something like CPU spy to see if you are going to deep sleep when your screen is off.
Related to apps as well, don't use any task killers or constantly kill apps when you exit them. A lot of people think killing apps is necessary when it completely is not. Android, since donut or eclair, manages its RAM very well, so that when a properly written app (ie. It's not keeping a wake lock) is in RAM, it's just in a frozen state not using any CPU cycles. Constantly killing well written apps hurts battery life, because restarting the app fresh is much more processor intensive than pulling a frozen app out of RAM. Plus you don't have to deal with annoying loading/splash screens.
Also, like others have said, using the lowest brightness possible, and turning off sync for any unnecessary apps will help battery life. GPS doesn't matter so long as you don't keep something running that uses it. If an app isn't using GPS, then GPS isn't using battery. I always leave my GPS on and do not notice a difference compared to turning it off. If you're paranoid about GPS leave it off, but it's annoying to have to turn it on every time you want to use an app that requires it. You can also disable location access in most apps like Facebook, twitter, etc where you don't need GPS really, and that will make leaving it on even better. If you don't use GPS much anyways, leave it off.
Like somebody said, your cell signal can greatly affect your performance, so use WiFi whenever possible, and even put a data toggle in your pulldown so you can disable cell data when you don't really need it. WiFi in general uses less battery than cellular data, so I use it whenever possible.
I've also noticed that how you use your screen on time also has a great effect on battery life. When I have extended lengths of constant screen on time where the phone starts heating up and whatnot, I see much less battery life than if I just use my phone here and there intermittently. Long stretches of screen on time stress the processor and battery heating them up and making them less efficient, where as short stretches allow the processor time to stay at a cooler, more efficient temperature. If you game at all on your phone, you've definitely experienced this, as you know that your phone heats up due to the extended lengths of screen on time and heavy processor usage. Gaming is a no-no if you're striving for better battery life.
With following those guidelines, my Note sees about 3.5 screen on time with JB on Gubment Cheeze. I would get around that on ICS as well, and I don't remember what it was on GB. Fellow testers and teammates for Gubment Cheeze have seen up to 4 hours and a little more even on JB, so it's definitely possible to have decent battery life on JB.
It really comes down to your own personal usage.
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That's a very big heads up. Thanks. But thing is when I have wifi on. Don't I need to be connected to wifi network first before it actually can help me??
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That's a very big heads up. Thanks. But thing is when I have wifi on. Don't I need to be connected to wifi network first before it actually can help me??
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This is true. What kind of signal strength do you get where you are at? Does your phone bounce back and forth to lte. I have noticed when i go from a strong signal to weaker signals or band switching a lot, my battery drains rapidly.
Use cpuspy, as mentioned, to verify you do see deep sleep. Also, i find if rooted, that seting the min speed to 192 helps quite a bit.