So since many folks have gotten rid of the Prime, what tablet did you replace it with?
The obvious # 1 choice; Infinity.
- They fixed the gps, wifi, micro sd slot. But there is still audio lag with bluetooth. They didn't fix the slow i/o...still using the slowest possible flash memory. And Asus also didn't increase the battery capacity, with the increase in resolution and clock speed....battery life is too poor.
# 2: Acer Iconia A700.
- High resolution screen, low everything. Low clock speed, low brightness screen, laggy performance.
# 3: Huawei MediaPad 10 FHD
- Hi resolution screen, super fast Quad-core 1.5 GHz K3 cpu. Release date unknown.
# 4: Lenovo IdeaTap K2
- High resolution screen, tegra 3, shown at CES...release date unknown.
# 5: Galaxy Note 10.1
- Exynos 4 quad core cpu, faster than tegra performance. Actual stereo speakers, 2 gb ram, digitizer pen, same smoothness as on Galaxy 3 phone. But a lower resolution screen.
# 6: iPad 3:
- Great mix of hardware and software....but a boring OS.
# 7: MS Surface and Variants
-Upcoming Win 8 tablets, performance on these tablets seem great so far, no price yet.
So what tablet have replaced Prime with, or are waiting to buy?
Hmmm. I still have my prime and love it with wookie ICS. Had to downgrade from JB still not refined enough for me. Im really digging the note though. I have the AT&T note in tablet mode and think its the best phone ever haha. Might have to pass the prime along to my kid once that comes out.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
I got the infinity but only because bestbuy exchanged my prime
Sent from my EPAD using Tapatalk
cjsspape said:
Hmmm. I still have my prime and love it with wookie ICS. Had to downgrade from JB still not refined enough for me. Im really digging the note though. I have the AT&T note in tablet mode and think its the best phone ever haha. Might have to pass the prime along to my kid once that comes out.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With a heavy heart, I went for the iPad 3. But I couldn't settle with it. I'm too much into the Google ecosystem and I much prefer Android as an OS. iOS is fine mostly, but the walled garden is too full of strangling ivy...
Off to Best Buy tomorrow to get the Infinity, and off to Apple to return my iPad.
Eagerly awaiting the Note 10.1 - have the Samsung Series 9 Slate (Windows)
I sketch and draw, so the wacom pen is pretty much a sell right there.
And it has a working GPS - with Glonass support.
And integrated CIR which makes it a remote control too.
I've long had a kind of dislike for Samsung because they have a mutual 'non-competition' agreement between Samsung USA and Samsung Canada, which would be ok - except that Samsung Canada brings in a teeeeeny subset of the products you guys in the US get.
On the other hand, recently they've been widening the range of products, and they just opened their first Samsung store in North America in Vancouver of all places. So, it would be hypocritical not to give Samsung a fair chance.
I rather like my Samsung Nexus phone - and I have a Samsung Series 9 Slate (the reference design for Windows 8) which is quite good as well... so I expect the Note 10.1 to be a solid device.
I'd really like to keep on with the Transformer line - but unfortunately, nothing Asus has done has made me feel they've earned my loyalty or even my trust. Time to move on.
I will try galaxy note first, if its not going to be good enough then I will get iPad, I know I hate iOS, but at least it WORKS really good.
I replaced it with iPad 3. Happy.
I guess we're still waiting for a good android tablet. I like the dock - maybe with the MS devices coming out, we'll see a few more of these come along (it's not the same, but it seems MS is pushing that type of form factor more).
Nexus 7.
Got the Nexus 7 till I see a worthy 10 in tablet. Nexus 10 would be fantastic.
Sent from my SGH-I747 using xda premium
Nexus 7, if you are comfortable with the form factor this N7 performance is far away from the prime.
I'm skeptical that the N7's performance improvement isn't largely software related. I would expect ASUS to leverage a significant amount of the transformer's design/components for yet another tablet rather than designing one from the ground up. I can't imagine them using blazing fast memory for example.
I went with the iPad 2. I'm hearing bad things about the iPad 3. Most people that has one wish they had kept their iPad 2. I liked my prime but it wasn't for ready for the prime time.
After exchanging my prime for the Verizon iPad 4G LTE I couldn't be happier. Although I love android, I prefer iOS on a tablet. However I'll never get an iPhone. Galaxy nexus ftw
Glad I cancelled my Prime pre-order after Asus took out the GPS from the spec. Now I have the Infinity which is faster, higher res and working GPS/Wifi. To those who upgraded for free from Best Buy, congrats and enjoy your new toy.
Got myself the infinity and i absolutely love it. Definitely what the prime would have been in regards to software
I replaced my Prime with the Infinity even though I did not have the many issues with the Prime that others had. But since Best Buy was willing to do the exchange, I went for it. The Infinity is really nice, but awaiting the Microsoft Surface and the new Samsung Note Tab.
There is very little to do with the infinity. Not many roms, didnt unlock mine yet because not sure i want to keep it. If you watch a movie (before the battery dies) the screen is nice but overall not that impressed, my prime with all the problems had jellybean and was working good, now , i feel we are back at square one, at least for the time being as not much is being devloped.. The battery is not great, 5-6 with a very low screen and not doing very much. I think we were all spoiled with the prime.. lol.
For tablets not much else out there right now
Got an Infinity and am using my original keyboard dock. Love it. If there is a IPS+ display version of the Nexus 7 released I will be very tempted to get one to supplement the TF700T.
Gonna be a windows 8 tablet for me, just missing the full experience of windows on the tablet... Excellent for surfing the web, listening some music and watching youtube but that's about it for me.
Also noticed I hardly ever used the prime without the dock anymore so bought a netbook (Samsung 305U1A) for now. A bit bigger then the prime (and damn, I do miss the touch screen hehe) but have hardly touched the prime since.
Can't wait for a nice windows 8 tablet/netbook combo (removable keyboar dock, just because). Just hope the price will be doable.
Related
hi everyone
I was going to buy it asus transformer but I found a tab 10.1 16gb for 300 $ new with warranty
my problem is there is no expansion slot on tab 10.1 and keyboard is nothing like asus transformers keyboard also im moving up from ipad 1 I wanna know is the display better in resolution and color.
is it better than the transformer ?
should I buy the tab or no ?
tnx
sure why not?
Sure why not? I like mine!
I would. Why not? Its an awesome tablet with lots for roms to choose from.
Yes, get it. I just got one a few days ago for a similarly good price. You won't regret it. It is an amazing piece of hardware.
I have one, and honestly, I think you would be better off either
A) Buying the "New" iPad
B) Wait for the Galaxy Tab 11.6
$300 is a pretty good price for the Tab, amazing actually, but I have been disappointed owning this Tegra 2 Tab. It's sluggish on transitions, and laggy at times, MANY MANY force closes. People here my say different, but I would wait for that Exynos powered 11.6.
Also, the iPad 3 is a STUNNER. I used one for 2 days before having to give it back :'( and all I can say is wow. The usability is just awesome, although I do prefer some features you get an an Android tab.
Haven't seen a Transformer up close so I can't compare it but I'd put the GT 10.1 display between the iPad 2 and newer iPad. New iPad screen is just fantastic.
Comes down to personal choice really; for me $300 sounds like a great price and I'd drop that with little thought if I was in the market for a new tablet. For others $300 might be a significant amount to spend.
On the flip side, if you check the local used market and aren't seeing things cheaper it might be worth it to buy the tablet, use it for a bit, and then sell it used if you don't like it. I can't see the value of it dropping much lower than $300 with things like the Kindle Fire out there selling for $200.
10.0000 better. buy without fear. just google and you will see the reviews. I recommend you.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium HD app
Damien Karras said:
10.0000 better. buy without fear. just google and you will see the reviews. I recommend you.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With the many different suggestions above your post you lost me as to what is you think is better and should be bought without fear...
I could google reviews and depending on where the reviews originate from they are going to skew the results...
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium HD app
F.Y.I everyone after i decided to get a new tablet my ipad is been crashing every 15 minutes
: l
also thanks for your replys I'm still thinking what should i do
motevaselan said:
F.Y.I everyone after i decided to get a new tablet my ipad is been crashing every 15 minutes
: l
also thanks for your replys I'm still thinking what should i do
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's an apple plot
Or your iPad is jealous
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium HD app
I got my tablet one month ago, i immediately flashed overcome. Since then, not a single crash or bug. Transitions are fluid and i have not appreciated any lag. I am using it continuously, and it's being really handy at work. My wife has an iPad 1 and she is jealous of my tab ;-).
Sent from my GT-P7500 using XDA
I wouldn't suggest buying another tablet but I would wait for something like the 11.6 the real ipad killer which would be awesome, because in all honesty when you see that beast you will forget about the 10.1 then again its still tba
Sent from my GT - I9003 in the bathroom
I was in the same boat as you trying to decide. I even went against everything I believe in and decided to try the iPad and could only take it for 24 hrs and took it back. It was not for me and I wanted to like it so much, I thought I could have the best of both worlds, android and Apple since I have a S2 and original Galaxy Tab. But, I took it back and got the Tab 10.1 even though the Transformer Prime was calling my name, its a beautiful beast of a device and they support their tabs with great update support unlike Samsung, but I chose the Tab because I knew XDA would not let me down, so I bought it 2 days ago, and rooted it last night with some ice cream love.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 using XDA Premium HD App.
^ I actually thought of the same thing, The only reason I chose the 10.1 over the Transformer (Not prime) was because they mentioned the transformer wasn't on the chart for getting the ICS update. However Transformer Prime does pike my interest, may add it to the collection over time. Sexy beast indeed. fapfapfapfpafafp
I am looking to change my original iPad, and thinking of the asus prime transformer, new iPad and tab 10.1. After using a galaxy S2 for six months I am really interested in the tab, however it looks a bit outclassed by the new iPad.
What would you guys recommend in my situation?
I got mine for free from Google through work. While I do like it, I would not have purchased one myself. I'd rather take the money and put it towards an ultra book. But it definitely does suffice for just web browsing, music, and as my alarm clock.
Problem is there is no such thing as ultra book, where I felt the 10.1 was at it's prime supremacy, there came the 11.6 and the Transformer Prime, FML.
Hodsgod said:
I am looking to change my original iPad, and thinking of the asus prime transformer, new iPad and tab 10.1. After using a galaxy S2 for six months I am really interested in the tab, however it looks a bit outclassed by the new iPad.
What would you guys recommend in my situation?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there is no overkilling tablet .
pro ipad 3: best display and performance, many apps, ebooks, music etc.
contra ipad 3: apple..., expensive
pro transformer prime: best performance on an android tablet, good asus update politics
contra transformer prime: bad availability, expensive, no 3g yet
pro galaxy tab 10.1: good perfomance, stylish design like a well known apple product, open bootloader --> many custom roms, priceless
contra galaxy tab 10.1: bad update politics of samsung, haptics because of the missing gorilla glas aren't sooo good, accessoirs (hdmi, sd card, usb) only via dock connector
i think the galaxy tab 10.1 will be get an enormous speed increase with the upcoming ics firmwares from samsung (hardware acceleration is still missing, release maybe in may '12)
if you have the money take the quad cpu asus transformer prime otherwise the galaxy tab 10.1 will be a solid device for the next 1-2 years.
an 11.6 inch tablet isn't a rival to the ipad 3 i think. the ipad has the optimal size and weight, the galaxy tab 10.1 is the absolute maximum size for me. bigger sizes wouldn't be handy for the couch and a traveling with the tram or train. but that is my own opinion
fatlus said:
there is no overkilling tablet .
pro ipad 3: best display and performance, many apps, ebooks, music etc.
contra ipad 3: apple..., expensive
pro transformer prime: best performance on an android tablet, good asus update politics
contra transformer prime: bad availability, expensive, no 3g yet
pro galaxy tab 10.1: good perfomance, stylish design like a well known apple product, open bootloader --> many custom roms, priceless
contra galaxy tab 10.1: bad update politics of samsung, haptics because of the missing gorilla glas aren't sooo good, accessoirs (hdmi, sd card, usb) only via dock connector
i think the galaxy tab 10.1 will be get an enormous speed increase with the upcoming ics firmwares from samsung (hardware acceleration is still missing, release maybe in may '12)
if you have the money take the quad cpu asus transformer prime otherwise the galaxy tab 10.1 will be a solid device for the next 1-2 years.
an 11.6 inch tablet isn't a rival to the ipad 3 i think. the ipad has the optimal size and weight, the galaxy tab 10.1 is the absolute maximum size for me. bigger sizes wouldn't be handy for the couch and a traveling with the tram or train. but that is my own opinion
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
499 for an iPad is not expensive, it is inline with competition. IMHO, Google and the companies really fudged up with Tablets. It is totally different with phones, you almost have to go Apple with the tablet and Android with phones. That's what I plan on doing.
I somewhat agree, tablet wise Apple would be nice, then again Apple has horrible tablet support, they're more focused on the phones.
Hey guys,
I currently have a nexus 7. I bought it on Tuesday, and I'm loving it so far.
I also pre-ordered one through Google Play the day after I/O and just received that one yesterday.
My question is, should I return them both and just get the TF700T instead? Has anyone had any experience in either devices? I love the little form factor of the Nexus, but seeing as I am in college, the TF700T + dock would seem to make more sense. Does the 10.1" form factor really make that big of a difference on portability? What about weight?
I own an old HP touchpad, but it has a cracked screen + needs to be restored to factory defaults (issues with that, SD mount problems after updating CM9) and I'll probably sell the thing.
What do you guys reccomend? I use my tablet for web browsing, gaming, catching up on tech news and an occasional youtube video/netflix movie. In college I could use it instead of my laptop for most work that doesn't involve programming or running any cisco software (unless I use remote desktop or something)
I also use a Galaxy Nexus for a still pretty large mobile web experience, should I get the TF700T? Also, I couldn't find it anywhere else but tigerdirect or amazon with a markup.
ANY tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
That's hard to answer really. In my opinion, there's a huge difference between the 7 inch and 10 inch tablets. The 10 inch is about twice the size of your nexus 7. Yes, it weighs more too. I use my prime as my primary device, but I don't do any programming. You have to really think about what you're going to use it for. The 7 is perfect for reading and web browsing (most sights), but the 10 is more like a small laptop.
I would not trade my prime for a nexus 7, but the smaller screen doesn't fit what I want. I think a 10 inch device can be your primary, but I don't think the 7 could.
i would take the tf700t over the nexus 7 and it will be updated to jelly bean soon.
My consideration is you need 2 hands to operate nexus 7 anyway, so why don't use a bigger screen instead ... so i'm sticking with my prime.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
Best solution, since you have 2 nexus 7. Return 1. Have a 700 & nexus 7. I have prime+dock & nexus 7. they compliment each other well.
They really can't be compared. 700 more powerful & has bigger high quality screen. but nexus 7 is a powerful little device also. Its no slouch. 7in. Form factor is far more portable.
How exactly does this post belong in this section of the forum? As you might see I am not a heavy poster but I follow the forum very closely. Can you please post on the correct device post, instead of just choosing the most popular in the hope to get more replies.
mortakos said:
How exactly does this post belong in this section of the forum? As you might see I am not a heavy poster but I follow the forum very closely. Can you please post on the correct device post, instead of just choosing the most popular in the hope to get more replies.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sorry but I did not see a dedicated forum for the TF700T. So where was I supposed to put it, the Nexus 7 forums? Almost everyone there would have said to get the Nexus 7 based on price alone. I feel like the owners of the TF700T would have a better judgement on the subject, having spent a good amount of cash on their tablet.
demandarin said:
Best solution, since you have 2 nexus 7. Return 1. Have a 700 & nexus 7. I have prime+dock & nexus 7. they compliment each other well.
They really can't be compared. 700 more powerful & has bigger high quality screen. but nexus 7 is a powerful little device also. Its no slouch. 7in. Form factor is far more portable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
technically I have 3 N7's. I have the 2 I have for myself, and I told my mom to get one. So I could use hers when she's not using it if I want to be able to have a 7 inch tablet. But there's no way I am going to keep 2 N7's and a TF700T in my house, kind of a waste of money for someone like me (part time retail salesman and full time college kid).
I think I might just return the N7's and get the TF700T. Where should I order it from?
Samzebian said:
technically I have 3 N7's. I have the 2 I have for myself, and I told my mom to get one. So I could use hers when she's not using it if I want to be able to have a 7 inch tablet. But there's no way I am going to keep 2 N7's and a TF700T in my house, kind of a waste of money for someone like me (part time retail salesman and full time college kid).
I think I might just return the N7's and get the TF700T. Where should I order it from?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well it's been a very long time (30 years) since I was a "college kid", but I would have thought that the TF700 with the keyboard dock would be a lot more versatile than the N7. And, though the N7 is more portable - carrying around a TF700 + dock won't be difficult. I currently carry around my TF201 and dock in a case and it's still roughly only 3 pounds.
I'd get rid of N7 and take TF700. Actually I bought TF700 already 7 inches and lack of microSD is a deal killer.
You can order TF700 from Amazon or bhphotovideo.com
I'd take one TF700 over two N7's any day.
N7 is just a downsized version of the 300 sans mem expansion whereas the 700 is a step above it. No comparison there.
How is this thread allowed here? Just the other day an N7 thread discussing all of the defects and problems w/ the N7 was removed since it wasn't related to the Prime, but this one is okay? If anything, at least yesterday's thread compared the N7's defects w/ the Prime's defects. This thread literally has nothing to do with the Prime.
Anyway, to answer your question, I'd have to say neither, unless you feel like dealing with a company that practices poor design and has zero quality control:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781237
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1770919
However, if you insist on one of these two devices, I'd go with the N7. The hardware may be falling apart (i.e., read about the display defects in the threads above), but at least the software is rock solid since it's done by Google and not Asus.
does the Nexus 7 suffer from the poor I/O performance that the Prime does?
SyXbiT said:
does the Nexus 7 suffer from the poor I/O performance that the Prime does?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no. on rl sqlite benchmark I scored 33 secs. overall on I/O performance(I posted the screenshot in another thread). that put my nexus 7 at the top of the list. other nexus 7 owners have scored similar also. prime issue is likely software/driver wise still.
SyXbiT said:
does the Nexus 7 suffer from the poor I/O performance that the Prime does?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I own the Transformer Prime, and just purchased a Nexus 7 for my daughter (11 years old)
If I/O performance refers to how long it takes to transfer data between my PC and the tablet, I'd say they both perform pretty much the same.
I've copied movies to both devices, and it does take a few minutes. However, they're between 700MB and 1.2GB in size, so I'm not that surprised or bothered about the slow transfer.
Haven't done any scientific tests, but based on general use, I don't find transferring data/files to the Nexus7 noticeably faster then when I transfer to my Transformer Prime (and I usually use AirDroid, so I transfer wirelessly, which I'm sure is slower then via cable)
Nexus7 is a fantastic device, and my daughter loves it! I wasn't willing to spend $500 for her, and I also felt the smaller size was a better fit.
She does lose a front camera, and microSD slot. She still has a camera for Skype, which she uses a lot, and the tablet has a beautiful display, and is buttery smooth!
It's an amazing device for the price! (not letting my Prime go, however)
ShelW said:
I own the Transformer Prime, and just purchased a Nexus 7 for my daughter (11 years old)
If I/O performance refers to how long it takes to transfer data between my PC and the tablet, I'd say they both perform pretty much the same.
I've copied movies to both devices, and it does take a few minutes. However, they're between 700MB and 1.2GB in size, so I'm not that surprised or bothered about the slow transfer.
Haven't done any scientific tests, but based on general use, I don't find transferring data/files to the Nexus7 noticeably faster then when I transfer to my Transformer Prime (and I usually use AirDroid, so I transfer wirelessly, which I'm sure is slower then via cable)
Nexus7 is a fantastic device, and my daughter loves it! I wasn't willing to spend $500 for her, and I also felt the smaller size was a better fit.
She does lose a front camera, and microSD slot. She still has a camera for Skype, which she uses a lot, and the tablet has a beautiful display, and is buttery smooth!
It's an amazing device for the price! (not letting my Prime go, however)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I based what I said off of benchmark scoring(from me n others in nexus 7 forum) and playstore downloads and installs. The apps download & install on nexus 7 alot faster than on prime. Plus the lag is nowhere to be seen on nexus 7 during the download/install of apps/games, unlike the prime. I can have all that going on in background of nexus 7 while doing other things and nothing will freeze up or lag.
Speed transfer from prime or nexus to a pc will be nerfed from it using MTP mode. If mounted as a USB mass storage device, like how it was on older android builds, those transfer speeds would be alot faster.(from what I've heard and read up here in xda)
I cant let my prime go either. But MY nexus 7 has definitely been stealing attention away from my prime. I used my prime earlier but had to put it up and take my nexus 7 off the charger. I'm really liking this 7in. Form factor. Far more portable and easier/lighter to hold. Not too small either(Im 6'5 with big hands so typing on Nexus 7 with thumb keyboard is seamless).
Ditch em now and get one again later
If either are a 16 GB Nexus 7, sell them on eBay and get more than retail for them (or at least equal to retail, assuming they are in pristine condition).
Take money and buy TF700 with dock.
When fervor for Nexus 7 comes down, go buy another one to fill your 7" tablet needs. You may or may not want to get one after you have a TF700. I have the TF201 and I'm trying to tell myself why I don't need a 7" tablet. I think I just want to **** with Jelly Bean. Hell I still might just up and buy an 8 GB just for the hell of it and gift it to my dad when the newness wears off.
pekosROB said:
If either are a 16 GB Nexus 7, sell them on eBay and get more than retail for them (or at least equal to retail, assuming they are in pristine condition).
Take money and buy TF700 with dock.
When fervor for Nexus 7 comes down, go buy another one to fill your 7" tablet needs. You may or may not want to get one after you have a TF700. I have the TF201 and I'm trying to tell myself why I don't need a 7" tablet. I think I just want to **** with Jelly Bean. Hell I still might just up and buy an 8 GB just for the hell of it and gift it to my dad when the newness wears off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this. I already decided I'm going to get the TF700T. And I've put them on both Ebay and craigslist, no bites so far but hopefully someone buys them. If not I'll just return them within my 2 week time frame.
I'm going to try the TF700T. I read ALL about Asus's quality control issues, and if I can deal with the I/O issues, I'll keep the TF700T. if not, I'll return it and get a galaxy note 10.1 when they come out
Anyone else keeping tabs on the Nexus 7 forums? Asus' crappy quality control is killing many of their users too. There are multiple people who have done multiple exchanges and keep getting units with separated glass (the primary issue), lines of dead pixels, unresponsive touch screens, and blown speakers. I predict this is the last Nexus device we'll see made by Asus. Persistent perfection! Ha.
Will you be putting down your Prime for a Nexus 10?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
Haha... had to see this thread coming... I already did... just hanging around here to advise people till I get my Nexus 10.... gonna buy it the day it's available...
I am keeping my prime, I refuse to jump on this redundant display bandwagon. We've gotten by fine for over 10 years with 1200x800 and going higher just consumes more power, for what? 720p is more than acceptable on a 10 inch device. Last I checked, there aren't a surplus of 1600p videos, and even if there were I would prefer to watch them on something larger than 10 inches so I could actually see the difference over 720p. The only way to see the difference is to hold it inches away and that's not how people watch movies.
As far as text rendering goes, it's no excuse to sacrifice battery life, overall performance, and spend more money.
I wish OEMs would have let apple go down this silly path on their own. Not every decision apple makes is effective. I wish OEMs would have focused those efforts on more power, stability, and other features, instead of just pulling a page from apple's playbook and upping the displays on devices that already have wonderful displays. As it stands my transformer prime already has a nicer panel than the laptop I'm typing this on, and desktop displays could make much more use out of better displays than any 10 inch tablet can.
The purpose 1600p tablets serve is to satisfy consumer dickmeasuring. "OH YOUR TABLET ISN'T 1600P IT'S NOT AS NICE AS THE IPAD!"
There are more effective routes OEMs could have taken to actually advance their products that isn't putting in overkill displays.
Agreed to #3. Android narcissism in Tech Specs's war. Will it benefit consumers? Yes. Cut-throat competition. What I hope is that Google won't be killing off other OEMs in the near future just so to use them as springboards to fight Apple. If so, then Google's advocacy of Cloud Storage may mean expensive onboard storage of us all.
mystril said:
Agreed to #3. Android narcissism in Tech Specs's war. Will it benefit consumers? Yes. Cut-throat competition. What I hope is that Google won't be killing off other OEMs in the near future just so to use them as springboards to fight Apple. If so, then Google's advocacy of Cloud Storage may mean expensive onboard storage of us all.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not unless it gets a make over, it looks hideous! Seriously, what the hell were they thinking?
I was holding tough to my Prime hoping a fix was coming and that once it got JB all would be well.Bought myself a Galaxy S III a few weeks back and the Wife a Nexus 7 and they both run circles around my Prime.Really,its an embarrassment for a $500 tab to run like sh!t compared to a $200 tab and a smartphone.Not only web browsing but even flipping through menus and navigating the device is snappier than my Prime.The second I can get my hand on the Nexus 10,I'm dumping the Prime.. :good:
My Prime's still running like crap even after Jellybean and countless factory resets and even restoring the stock image. Mine is already on eBay and I'll be buying the Nexus 10 on release day. I welcome nearly instant updates from Google.
Maybe the nexus 7... I like the prime but I left a sgt7 for it and its just not as portable... But to answer the question, no I won't go to the nexus 10.
16 gb or even 32gb isn't enough I have like 28gb of apps alone. Google is retarded
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
im pretty sure that the nexus is much better than the prime (in some cases) but my questions is this, how will the speed differ in which the prime is quad core tegra 3 and the nexus is DUAL core with the new Cortex A-15 chip. For example apple used the cortex chips like the a-5 in their devices and the devices are pretty fluid so i wonder how this will put up and if it would be ridiculously lag-free faster....0.o
Nah for the time being ill stick with my prime I don't have any real issues. JB is fast and I can do everything I want on the tablet. I think even if I was able to get the Nexus 10 the time it would take for me to sell my prime and get up the rest of the cash if I couldnt sell it for 400, a newer nexus 10 will come out. So if anything ill save and wait. I have a sgs3 galaxy nexus and Tprime im good for another year or so on devices
No Nexus 10 for me but I just ordered a ipad mini. Found the 10 inch units too heavy while the display was too small on the 7 inch. But the mini was perfect in that regard. Lighter than any 7 inch but with screen massively bigger. And no more wasted space due to the on screen Android virtual buttons bar.
That was my plan until I saw the pics and specs. No microsd. $500 for only 32gb. No working for me. Just got to wait for anither tablet to come out. For those that dont think a higher resolution makes a difference. It does. I have the new ipad and the screen is beautiful. Makes reading and using it much easier on the eyes.
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using xda app-developers app
when the nexus10 is released in the netherlands or available for normal prices abroad i will surely switch to the nexus10. samsung is the way to go! also waiting for a good keyboard case/addon for the nexus 10.
after 2 asus products, 6 rma's and still a laggy product im sick and tired of asus.... and sick and tired of nvidia trying to get world domination with their closed source tegra-only marketing tricks...
for the moment i can wait a bit, cm10 unofficial with bfq scheduler works pretty decent but still lockups due to slow storage. i hate lags!
Does the increase resolution on the Nexus 10 lend itself to better handwriting recognition?
nabil alami said:
im pretty sure that the nexus is much better than the prime (in some cases) but my questions is this, how will the speed differ in which the prime is quad core tegra 3 and the nexus is DUAL core with the new Cortex A-15 chip. For example apple used the cortex chips like the a-5 in their devices and the devices are pretty fluid so i wonder how this will put up and if it would be ridiculously lag-free faster....0.o
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apple devices are fluid because they don't properly multi task and don't have widgets and live wallpapers running on them, just a bunch of apps/folders cluttering up the screen. Clear your screens and only run one thing at once on Android and it might be as smooth but will it be any where near as fun?
I think the Nexus 10 has a rediculous resolution. I don't even have that on my pc with 24" monitor so why bother on a 10" tablet?
I reallly, really like my Prime so will be keeping it but I also have a 32GB Nexus 7 on the way for when I need something a little smaller and more portable.
I'm one of the lucky ones who has a nearly flawless Prime. Yea the WiFi could be better but I mainly just tether from my phone so it's not big issue. My TF201 of course has more mods on it than I could count (scripts mainly) and combined with a 1.8ghz OC it's faster than ever. The Nexus devices are great but honestly the look of the Nexus 10 doesn't please me even with the ridiculously high screen res.
N10 wins just on the fact that the software will be made by Google and will be snappy and responsive, not laggy and crappy. I just sold my Prime and will be getting an N10. Never again with Asus...never again.
Two things stop me from even thinking about it:
- no sd card slot
- no keyboard dock
---------- Post added at 09:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:16 AM ----------
htcplussony said:
No Nexus 10 for me but I just ordered a ipad mini. Found the 10 inch units too heavy while the display was too small on the 7 inch. But the mini was perfect in that regard. Lighter than any 7 inch but with screen massively bigger. And no more wasted space due to the on screen Android virtual buttons bar.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Seriously? An iPad mini? Basicly an iPad 2 shrunked to 8" for the price of one and a half Nexus 7?
Tough decision...
nabil alami said:
im pretty sure that the nexus is much better than the prime (in some cases) but my questions is this, how will the speed differ in which the prime is quad core tegra 3 and the nexus is DUAL core with the new Cortex A-15 chip. For example apple used the cortex chips like the a-5 in their devices and the devices are pretty fluid so i wonder how this will put up and if it would be ridiculously lag-free faster....0.o
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Exynos 5250 is much faster than Tegra 3. Also the Nexus 10 software comes straight from Google, so no lag and strange bugs. Yeah Prime is better looking but in my opinion usability is more important. Also Samsung devices dont have some cheap and slow internal memory.
I was ready to pull the trigger on the N10, but I've been reading some horrible reviews about battery life and charging and random reboots. I'm now reconsidering the TF700.
My thought is that the reboots I've read about can be fixed by just getting on a custom ROM, which I'm sure the review writers were not on. But the seemingly low quality of the build makes me nervous.
So I guess the question now is: N10 or TF700? Or maybe something else?
I had a tf700 and I put it up for sale two seconds after I turned on the Nexus 10. the Nexus 10 is hands down the best 10in android tablet!
mfratella said:
I was ready to pull the trigger on the N10, but I've been reading some horrible reviews about battery life and charging and random reboots. I'm now reconsidering the TF700.
My thought is that the reboots I've read about can be fixed by just getting on a custom ROM, which I'm sure the review writers were not on. But the seemingly low quality of the build makes me nervous.
So I guess the question now is: N10 or TF700? Or maybe something else?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Need more information. What are you primarily using it for? Both can do everything, but each does a few things slightly better/different.
Here's an older thread full of ex-TF700 owners sharing their experiences compared to the N10. Rather than repeat, I'll just drop a link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2066330
Since my post in that thread was made before I owned my Nexus 10, I'll add that the N10 feels much more solid compared to the Transformer in spite of the flex, the rubber just feels like it could handle whatever life throws at it better than the metal of the transformer. CM10.1 does indeed fix the reboots. The battery life seems slightly better to me than the Infinity without the dock.
IMO the only plus the TF700 has are its SD card slot and dock.
Sold my TF300T the moment the nexus 10 was released and haven't regretted it for a second.
Find the nexus 10 community (growing by the day thanks to Google getting better with stock), the look and feel a lot better. Add AOSP and it wins hands down.
Was a little concerned about not having micro sd support but after having the device for a couple months don't even notice.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747M
mfratella said:
I was ready to pull the trigger on the N10, but I've been reading some horrible reviews about battery life and charging and random reboots. I'm now reconsidering the TF700.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The N10 is still very new and some of the non-h/w related issues should be resolved over time. As for the TF700 you'd be trading one set of issues for another. There are ample threads here, on the Note 10.1, and TF700 forums talking about the TF700 in comparison. You owe it to yourself to read them before making a decision. Since neither device is "perfect" the choice comes down to one using the latest tech at the beginning of its life or year-old tech at the end of its life. The former is much more likely to get ongoing support; especially since it's a Nexus device.
I have a TF300t running clean Rom inheritance and it runs great. Even the stock Rom with the newest update runs great. Plus you can get a 32gb unit for $330 no shipping, no tax and save some coin. Add a 64gb micro sd and have 96gb storage for under $400. Very easy to root or unlock too!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
c5satellite2 said:
I have a TF300t running clean Rom inheritance and it runs great. Even the stock Rom with the newest update runs great. Plus you can get a 32gb unit for $330 no shipping, no tax and save some coin. Add a 64gb micro sd and have 96gb storage for under $400. Very easy to root or unlock too!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And you voided your warranty, are using what little RAM of the 1GB available is left to cache your browser data, and still don't have 5GHz Wi-Fi support, channel bonding, Glonass for location services, or a FHD display. And by the time you add the cost of SquareTrade to replace the voided warranty and the cost of the SD card to bypass Asus' crappy NAND it cost the same or more as a N10. To each their own.
c5satellite2 said:
I have a TF300t running clean Rom inheritance and it runs great. Even the stock Rom with the newest update runs great. Plus you can get a 32gb unit for $330 no shipping, no tax and save some coin. Add a 64gb micro sd and have 96gb storage for under $400. Very easy to root or unlock too!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had a TF300T for a while and I liked it but I would pay the additional money and get the N10, best tablet I have ever used. We use tablets at work so I have used an iPad 2, iPad 3, Galaxy Tab 10.1, Asus TF300T, Nexus 7 at work and the Nexus 10 I bought personally.
mfratella said:
I was ready to pull the trigger on the N10, but I've been reading some horrible reviews about battery life and charging and random reboots. I'm now reconsidering the TF700.
My thought is that the reboots I've read about can be fixed by just getting on a custom ROM, which I'm sure the review writers were not on. But the seemingly low quality of the build makes me nervous.
So I guess the question now is: N10 or TF700? Or maybe something else?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The TF700 may have the advantage of having less issues, since it's an older platform which has had the benefit of time to iron out the wrinkles. However, it has inferior hardware and won't be supported as well or as long as the N10. There's nothing low quality about the N10 build.
I currently have a lot of issues with my N10, but man is it beautiful. Everything from the hardware to the software. Yes, there are lots of annoying little bugs, but as a whole only a few show-stoppers and will hopefully get them fixed. Certainly if you have no problems with installing ROMs, you won't have to wait as long. Also, many of the real show-stopper issues have to do with having multiple accounts - a new feature in 4.2. So if you're the only user (which will be true in the TF700) then you won't have many of the issues.
Having said all of this, there are definitely a few really nice benefits of going with the TF700. It's older/slower hardware, but again, if you don't mind ROMs then you don't care about updates and you get a beautiful dock design with a physical keyboard and a much better battery life. Having a physical keyboard also has a benefit of not wasting real-estate when a keyboard is required. Using a software keyboard sucks for lots of typing: long-winded emails, posts and documents .
By the way, what do you mainly want to do with the tablet? That may push you into a certain direction. If the TF700 came with the N10 specs and N10 software/support (or lack there of, right now )... I'd be all over the TF700.
Not sure if this helps
Having owned two tf201's, and two tf700's I can tell you performance wise, and just about every other way, the nexus 10 is far superior.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
I've had a tf201 and now a tf700. I also had the n10 for 2 weeks. The only reason I kept the Tf700 is I got the dock + tablet for about $500 and love the keyboard on it. Performance wise, even with cleanrom and clemsey kernel it doesnt beat the performance and smoothness of the n10. If you dont need a keyboard go for the n10. I'm reconsidering buy it again and just getting a separate bluetooth keyboard. I'm just waiting for CES to be over just in case a better tablet comes out thats better than the n10 with keyboard.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
i bought both the tf700 and the N10 to compare. all i can say is that tegra 3 is a couple of generations behind the nexus's a15 processor. i saw lots of lag, sluggish behavior and lots of FC even on stock on the tf700. the N10 is very smooth and if you turn down the animations in dev mode, you dont see the studders people talk about. the only reason one would pick the tf700 would be due to the screen and optional keyboard. The screen is just farrrr superior than the N10. even though the N10 has a higher PPI and Res, asus's ips screen is just super vivid and lifelike. N10 is number 1 android tablet and will be for a while, until they release some tegra 4/ snapdragon 800 devices
sameer1807 said:
i bought both the tf700 and the N10 to compare. all i can say is that tegra 3 is a couple of generations behind the nexus's a15 processor. i saw lots of lag, sluggish behavior and lots of FC even on stock on the tf700. the N10 is very smooth and if you turn down the animations in dev mode, you dont see the studders people talk about. the only reason one would pick the tf700 would be due to the screen and optional keyboard. The screen is just farrrr superior than the N10. even though the N10 has a higher PPI and Res, asus's ips screen is just super vivid and lifelike. N10 is number 1 android tablet and will be for a while, until they release some tegra 4/ snapdragon 800 devices
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It could have lagged due to bad I/O.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app
newellj79 said:
Having owned two tf201's, and two tf700's I can tell you performance wise, and just about every other way, the nexus 10 is far superior.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Which is why ive got a tf700 for sale if anyone wants it!!
I had a TF201. It was NOTHING but problems. Stay away from everything Asus. They're terrible. I sold mine for an N10 and am very happy.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using XDA Premium HD app
nyijedi said:
I had a TF201. It was NOTHING but problems. Stay away from everything Asus. They're terrible. I sold mine for an N10 and am very happy.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually their nexus 7 has lots of good views
Sent from my Xperia Play (r800x)
The N10 is in another league than the TF700. I've had both.
Sold the tf700 after a few months of usage. The N10 has been pretty much awesome, and its way smoother.
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
For playing games with more enjoyment, I would like to suggest the TF 700, for experiencing the latest Android version, then get the Nexus 10.
As a user of TF700 and struggling a lot with it I have been keeping my close eye on the Nexus 10. If I didn't unlock my TF700 about 3months ago and this way voiding the warranty and at the same time making it harder to sell I would have probably done it already.
But then something magical happened with the new CM10.1 kernel and now this tablet really is super smooth. I still do think that Tegra 3 is no match for A15 by any means but this is still very snappy now.
Also I am a bit worried about some people complaining about the battery life of the Nexus 10. With TF700 it is so great to basically have 2 batteries with the dock. Also because I am using the tablet a lot at work I actually do need the dock to write reports.
Yet I do like the idea of having a pure Nexus device.
I am just wondering that because we are here at Nexus 10 site does people here always praise their current device even if there are a lot of problems. I am tempted to try but I am worried that it will end up in a similar disastrous start which I had with TF700.
Oh and the reason why I am still reading here is that I have these 2 white dots on my screen of TF700 and because unlocking can't return it anymore..and they are driving me crazy..
Budget is around 400EUR.
- I like the Nexus 10 but it has this ridiclous high res screen which the processors struggles to power. 720p is fine for me!
- There's the TF300 and TF700, the wifi is probably better but the big question: does the tf300/700 have faster memory? If yes those are excellent!
- There's the samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 but it doesnt have Tegra! I really like my Tegra games ... will it run them?
- There's the Nexus 7 which seems perfect except that it's just 7 inch. I like the idea of clean google os and updates though.
What would you do? I prefer 10inch but I guess I something a little smaller is ok. I like my Tegra games. I prefer a decent screen (IPS) but resolution doesn't matter.
It all comes down to this: I want a TF201 with better wifi and especially better memory.
I just want to be able to download torrents or doing a file transfer without the tablet becoming unusable for a few minutes.
I still really like my TF201, my dad wants a tablet so I tought I'd give him the TF201 and get me another one.
Thom4s said:
Budget is around 400EUR.
- I like the Nexus 10 but it has this ridiclous high res screen which the processors struggles to power. 720p is fine for me!
- There's the TF300 and TF700, the wifi is probably better but the big question: does the tf300/700 have faster memory? If yes those are excellent!
- There's the samsung galaxy tab 2 10.1 but it doesnt have Tegra! I really like my Tegra games ... will it run them?
- There's the Nexus 7 which seems perfect except that it's just 7 inch. I like the idea of clean google os and updates though.
What would you do? I prefer 10inch but I guess I something a little smaller is ok. I like my Tegra games. I prefer a decent screen (IPS) but resolution doesn't matter.
It all comes down to this: I want a TF201 with better wifi and especially better memory.
I just want to be able to download torrents or doing a file transfer without the tablet becoming unusable for a few minutes.
I still really like my TF201, my dad wants a tablet so I tought I'd give him the TF201 and get me another one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While the wifi is a larger issue, i think you could easily resolve your memory concerns by just using link2SD on another prime
jbrukardt said:
While the wifi is a larger issue, i think you could easily resolve your memory concerns by just using link2SD on another prime
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They stick out too much and can accidently be pressed in and then i lose the sd. I have lost 2 already. I just notice: oops my sd is gone! I think just from carrying around, lying between other stuff etc... It's running androwook now with clemsys 1.6 kernel so as far as software goes I've already done the most important.
I'm leaning towards the nexus 10 because of the google support and lack of people complaining about sluggish performance. I'll lose tegra games but surely games must still look good on it i guess ... I really like my prime's build quality and feel. It's just great (as a tablet alone, with the dock it became kinda wobbly). Also dock connectors are bent. But just as a tablet it feels great. No scratches, great glass! It's just great, if just it would have better wifi and better i/o.
I can always swap my Nexus 10 (or whatever i choose) to my dad and take back my prime
Thom4s said:
I can always swap my Nexus 10 (or whatever i choose) to my dad and take back my prime
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ain't dads great .
Thom4s said:
They stick out too much and can accidently be pressed in and then i lose the sd. I have lost 2 already. I just notice: oops my sd is gone! I think just from carrying around, lying between other stuff etc... It's running androwook now with clemsys 1.6 kernel so as far as software goes I've already done the most important.
I'm leaning towards the nexus 10 because of the google support and lack of people complaining about sluggish performance. I'll lose tegra games but surely games must still look good on it i guess ... I really like my prime's build quality and feel. It's just great (as a tablet alone, with the dock it became kinda wobbly). Also dock connectors are bent. But just as a tablet it feels great. No scratches, great glass! It's just great, if just it would have better wifi and better i/o.
I can always swap my Nexus 10 (or whatever i choose) to my dad and take back my prime
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is an app called Chainfire3D it was working well on my SGS2 running tegra games Im not sure if it would work on the Nexus 10 ...
I like nexus 10 but I would go for the TF700. Wide range of usage better battery life and you could expand the memoy, and you have a phisical keyborad. You would not have any of these on Nexus 10 but it is much cheaper..
I have just got my TF700 to replace my TF201 which was running on AndroWook.
I can say I am impressed so far with the TF700, no light bleed, the docking clamp feels sturdier and not as loose, the screen is much nicer and the colours seem a lot more vivid. The whole system seems to also run smoother, I have just downloaded loads of apps from google play and it didnt lock up at all when selecting the next app and clicking download & Install where as the TF201 would even on AndroWook. GPS works indoors to a certain extend and wireless has a much better range.
Overall I feel stock TF700 is much better than my rooted & ROM's TF201. IThe only hard decisiion I have at the moment is should I unlock, root and ROM or leave as is for time being
Going for the TF700 (tablet alone) might be a solution ... I keep the dock of my TF201 (afaik they are interchangable).
The nexus 10 is unavailable in belgium, only way to get it is to use a vpn and some cheating on credit card details AND a middle person shipping company to order it in another country. This is too crazy just for a tablet. It is not physically available in stores, only through google device store in select european country's :/
And apparantly a lot of stores discontinued the TF700 too :/ But i'm sure i'll find one somewhere.
Galaxy note 10.1
I like my tf201.
But at the time I take a look at my friend's new galaxy note 10.1, My eyes has caught by the great performance.
It provides a great overall performance such as an iDevice.
Since My tf201 need to be modified alot to get those flurent experience, galaxy note 10.1 is much way better
I've got a tf201 and a Galaxy SIII (same processor as Note 10.1), the SIII is really than the tf201 in all (maybe a 40% or more), internet browsing, playing games, etc. So the performance in the Note 10.1 will be also better.
Note 10.1 has opened bootloader, so you can install or modify whatever you want with depending if ASUS Tool wants to unlock your tablet.
Personally I am avoiding Tegra based tablets given the poor showing from the TF201. Granted it is better than it was but it's still far from perfect.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
For me i dont think there is anything worth upgrading to atm. All the other tablets are basically same generation as the Prime.
My next tablet should have:
-better or at least equal battery life as prime.
-full pen support which converts writing to printed text (like samsung note 10.1), in my current situation i prefer that over the keyboard addon.
-next gen cpu/gpu like tegra4 or equal and i guess 2gb ram.
-higher resolution (something like 1080p, nexus 10 is overkill imho)
-Frontfacing speakers
-as usual: fully rootable. Using a tablet without gesture control? Not going to happen.
- And of course: Better wifi/memory speeds, but i think thats a given no matter what you buy
-[e] oh and Micro USB charging! **** YOU proprietary charging bull****.
It looks only samsung is providing these things in a package atm I would rather buy something else to be honest, but i dont care about brands that much as long as they deliver.
I think if samsung ever brings another tab like the note 10.1 thats gonna be it. Although i'm still hoping ASUS, Sony or even Google does something comparable.
If you're on a budget, according to reviews, the latest effort from Asus is a sort of budget version of a fix of all the mistakes they've made with the transformer series. According to reviews they've fixed I/O speeds, GPS is apparently spot on, and Wifi is reportedly excellent. And in performance, the reviews all seem to show fast, fluid JB performance. I seriously sat there dumbfounded at how a device half the cost of the useless TF201 could perform that well.
Something to look at if - like you said - you're on a budget, and don't NEED super high pixel density, oh plus it has nice stereo speakers AND *drumroll please* micro-usb! Good bye ****ty bound-to-be-broken proprietary Asus charger!
http://www.gadgetgestures.com/asus-...ll-be-available-for-249-and-129-in-uk/8343392
If - to this day - the TF201 didn't sour my tablet experience and subsequently make me realize how little use I actually have for a tablet, I would've probably jumped at this as a replacement.
Used a Nexus 10 today and it was beautiful. I'd get that in a second if I was okay with ditching the keyboard dock with extra battery.
I'm not sour on Asus at this point, so I'd probably end up with a 700.
I'll pass on the Infinity since it still has the same bad i/o flaw.
turns out the tf201 and tf700 are still hugely expensive here in belgium. the tf201 still goes voor 599EUR (thats about $750), so i just kept it and my dad got a tf300 which is a much more reasonable 299EUR.
im sitting here with my laptop browsing on my neighbours public hotspot, works great, the tf201 cant even 'see' the network :/ wanted to use gps this week because my in car gps broke, even with the antenna addon it didnt get a fix after 5 minutes. i ended up using google maps on the laptop
so many flaws but it feels so great it looks awesome and gaming is perfect