Hey folks.
Now with the Release of Windows 8 for ARM Device @ 15th of August we are quiet possible to port Win8 to our lovly Transformer Prime.
We only need a custom bootloader where you can select which partition you want to boot. Windows 8 for ARM takes around 4 - 5 GB HDD Space.
Now Nvidia has released the needed Drivers for the Tegra 2 & Tegra 3 platform.
Here are the link for Tegra 3.
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._7a6ae94ede36a07b5eb9afd545b0a17267f3cb2f.cab
If we get hands on the ARM Version it is easy to include the cab with DISM.
Come on guys
Let the Windows 8 Porting begin!
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+1 COME ON GUYS :laugh:
No f****** way... I'd certainly donate to a dev that could do that.
Intelmaster90 said:
Hey folks.
Now with the Release of Windows 8 for ARM Device @ 15th of August we are quiet possible to port Win8 to our lovly Transformer Prime.
We only need a custom bootloader where you can select which partition you want to boot. Windows 8 for ARM takes around 4 - 5 GB HDD Space.
Now Nvidia has released the needed Drivers for the Tegra 2 & Tegra 3 platform.
Here are the link for Tegra 3.
http://download.windowsupdate.com/m..._7a6ae94ede36a07b5eb9afd545b0a17267f3cb2f.cab
If we get hands on the ARM Version it is easy to include the cab with DISM.
Come on guys
Let the Windows 8 Porting begin!
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I don't think so. This has been discussed in many topics. And in no way belongs in development and should be in general. Basically the answer is no, because Win 8 is going to require an encrypted bootloader built on specific devices. Porting most likely isn't going to happen.
OMG after the Jelly Bean multi threads, here is a new bone to bite...
Mods, help! Move that thread!
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OMG after the Jelly Bean multi threads, here is a new bone to bite...
Mods, help! Move that thread!
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boo f'in hoo.
(thank tha godz ur here to monitor progressssss.)
excuse someone for being happy about something possibly TFP related
(that has a life outside of their Droid).
nothing EVAR gets hacked when it comes to Droid or Prime
(that's why this forum doesn't really exist.....
and why JB won't ever come to the ATP).
amiright?!*#@!?
You aren't going to be able to acquire installable images of Windows 8 RT unless you are an OEM. August 15 is the Technet subs release.
And you sure as heck ain't going to be able to dd the bootloader off for the same reasons you can't now.
Not to mention the god awful hacks needed to get it to run on a device with less than min screen res, and obvious legal issues.
As for that linked driver release. It looks like ye olde nvidia unified driver architecture. It even includes the profiles for games that aren't even on the ARM platform. Not entirely sure why there is Tegra 2 support in there though.
Well, with the "so-called" security crap MS put into Windows regarding bootloaders... as @HydroSkillet said, unless someone manages to get a manufacturer signed, MS approved encrypted bootloader, changes are probably too slim to be considered...
One thing I learned here at xda is never accept the fact that a rom/port/app won't get created for our devices. We are blessed with outstanding devs.
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Since this is becoming more and more a discussion, I'll move it to General.
Diamondback said:
Since this is becoming more and more a discussion, I'll move it to General.
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EVEN if the port is technically feasible the legality of the port is at best sketchy and plainly put illegal. I hope after drinking the Android coolaid, you guys still remember that Windows is a proprietary OS. And on that grounds alone, I can bet that there is a snowball's chance in hell that that stuff will ever surface on XDA OR Rootzwiki.
In that light, there may be a popsicle's chance in hell that MS may do something to allow people to purchase a license and crap like that. Then may be if MS and the android devs or Asus can figure out a compromise and come up with a way to install it on the device with legally acquired software and a license then yes... But if you are SERIOUSLY expecting a port like an ICS/JB ROM, then I laugh at u! :laugh: LOL! It is M$ man! And u are asking for software piracy on XDA! lemme go and get a good laugh today! I needed it
End of Story. Good night!
One possibility is for Google and the Android Community to issue a challenge for MS to open source W8. It's about time Bill changes his name to Prometheus.
tedr44 said:
One possibility is for Google and the Android Community to issue a challenge for MS to open source W8. It's about time Bill changes his name to Prometheus.
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Pretty much a long shot. [Side note: I don't claim closed source is in any way less ethical or demeaning or whatever than open source... It is another valid software development model and I kinda hate some type of FOSS enthusiasts who just plain trash Windows from their high horse...] Anyway, Bill Gates doesn't really run the company no more! He is busy doing activism and philanthropic pursuits (he is a very nice guy actually.. But I must say, not the best orator)...
What were we talking about? Oh yeah. Windows 8 on our Tablet.. I think for the benefit of all, I suppose it is best for a proper dev to step in and just say why this can never happen, so that we don't see people asking this again and again only to be utterly disappointed by the reality.
tedr44 said:
One possibility is for Google and the Android Community to issue a challenge for MS to open source W8. It's about time Bill changes his name to Prometheus.
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Isn't this the reason why Linux exists? Because Microsoft wanted to keep their OS closed source?
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One possibility is for Google and the Android Community to issue a challenge for MS to open source W8. It's about time Bill changes his name to Prometheus.
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So you want them to open source software that they spent millions developing and are currently charging people to buy?
Do you live in some strange world where Microsoft actually does nice things?
If you want iOS , buy an iPad.
If you want W8, buy Surface.
There are ports of Win Mobile to other phones but I don't think it will happen with W8. It's called frontal perseveration, a neurological trouble that makes you repeat the same behavior even if it's inappopriate or aimless.
Widows phones are a failure, but instead of changing things they will go on further and harder by closing more and more, with more sophisticated protections/activation procedures and so on.
This thread is nonsense.
tedr44 said:
One possibility is for Google and the Android Community to issue a challenge for MS to open source W8. It's about time Bill changes his name to Prometheus.
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yea, while at it why not write to One Infinite Loop in Cupertino as well?
don't know if to LOL or CRY when reading posts like this
Look good news, hope is going be true and full compatibily :good:
Dnakaman said:
Isn't this the reason why Linux exists? Because Microsoft wanted to keep their OS closed source?
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The existence of Linux has very little to do with Windows being closed source.
The popularity of Linux however, does to some small extent.
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Dnakaman said:
Isn't this the reason why Linux exists? Because Microsoft wanted to keep their OS closed source?
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Gnu/Linux exists for several reasons. Gnu is a materialization of Stallman's wish to have an open source OS, Linux is only the kernel part. It was historically a way to compile and use UNIX programs on PC computers.
It's true that it's a reaction to the world of Apple, windows, Sun (UNIX). But not specifically against Windows.
What is the most sad is that Apples took a UNIX bsd base, and made a now closed OS than Redmond's firm...
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Heya all N9 fans! We all want Nokia N9 development thread on XDA, right?
Let's vote this in hope that the moderators will hear our voice and will create a separate thread.
Give your vote in the poll above and don't forget to Submit Thread!
Thanks and cheers!
whats so special about the n9? any development that requires a dedicated thread?
First of all it is a smartphone which has an open source platform and it lacks developers; the more users/fans it will have - the more it will attract developers to work around it.
Secondly, this is a great piece of machinery with a cool OS. Beside that, an Android OS could theoretically be ported to this device and XDA is one of few communities that could bring to this great phone/OS some further development, by that giving more chances for life, as Nokia has officially resigned from MeeGo project.
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First of all it is a smartphone which has an open source platform and it lacks developers; the more users/fans it will have - the more it will attract developers to work around it.
Secondly, this is a great piece of machinery with a cool OS. Beside that, an Android OS could theoretically be ported to this device and XDA is one of few communities that could bring to this great phone/OS some further development, by that giving more chances for life, as Nokia has officially resigned from MeeGo project.
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The only thing that will help development for this phone is that developers have this phone. The problem with that is it wasnt sold world wide. Not many people have this phone. Having a spot on XDA will not bring developers to a phone with a discontinued OS on it.
@zelendel: Can't disagree with that, but now the phone is available on e-Bay (which is quite world wide), with a more realistic price of around 500$.
The thing is that this little piece of machinery has impressed me a lot. But I wouldn't risk to buy it unless I can see that the phone will have a future. And I believe that threads like this will show us very clearly what is N9's destiny
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@zelendel: Can't disagree with that, but now the phone is available on e-Bay (which is quite world wide), with a more realistic price of around 500$.
The thing is that this little piece of machinery has impressed me a lot. But I wouldn't risk to buy it unless I can see that the phone will have a future. And I believe that threads like this will show us very clearly what is N9's destiny
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Dont get me wrong I had the n9 for a little bit but got rid of it after a bit. There is a dedicated thread for asking for a new device forum. HERE
Might be a better place for this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
zelendel said:
Dont get me wrong I had the n9 for a little bit but got rid of it after a bit. There is a dedicated thread for asking for a new device forum. HERE
Might be a better place for this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1416406
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Thanks for the link, but you know what N9 is not even in the poll list
Can't believe that this phone has such small chances to ever succeed.
By the way, why did you got rid of it?
Petition - http://www.groubal.com/ics-compatible-openmax-il-compiled-for-armv6-from-qualcomm/
pls vote this
and forum Qualcomm - https://developer.qualcomm.com/forum/qdevnet-forums/multimedia-optimization-qdsp/13248
Already signed...
but why make another post, i think that one is enough .
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Already signed...
but why make another post, i think that one is enough .
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It's another one with more explanations especially for Qualcomm
And the other thread was not updated
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but why make another post, i think that one is enough .
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The petition from change.org is totally wrong. That petition was geared towards ARM, when really it should be for Qualcomm. This new petition is for Qualcomm (so the near 10000 signatures on that other petition are pretty much useless; the only use I can see in them is if Qualcomm is swayed by the number of people supporting the cause).
already signed....also post the links to other fb group and local forum
and how many signatures are needed for this petition? or have to wait qualcomm?
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and how many signatures are needed for this petition? or have to wait qualcomm?
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We might get a million signatures but if Qualcomm says no, then that's the end of the story
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How many signatures is the target? 10,000?
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The petition from change.org is totally wrong. That petition was geared towards ARM, when really it should be for Qualcomm. This new petition is for Qualcomm (so the near 10000 signatures on that other petition are pretty much useless; the only use I can see in them is if Qualcomm is swayed by the number of people supporting the cause).
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yeah i know about that, but they could just edit the first post
anyway hope that Qualcomm will release the drivers soon, ICS will be great on our O1
EDIT : nearly 1500 signatures, COOL !!!
Previous one had only 4337 signatures under it, and it was just enough to take their attention... Still no replies from officials on their forums...
Back last year, us in the Legend community were harassing HTC on their Facebook page for our Froyo update. Great times!
Now that I own a P500, I want to further make our voices heard through Facebook, so the petition has been (hopefully) made to QC's attention:
http://www.facebook.com/qualcomm/posts/242180012557312
Asovse1 said:
Back last year, us in the Legend community were harassing HTC on their Facebook page for our Froyo update. Great times!
Now that I own a P500, I want to further make our voices heard through Facebook, so the petition has been (hopefully) made to QC's attention:
http://www.facebook.com/qualcomm/posts/242180012557312
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click the like button !
Hey guys check this out!
I love qualcomm is still giving attention to older product
Re: Petition: Release OpenMax codecs for arm v6 OMX IL libs ...
31 May 2012, 01:41 pm
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Hello, we have seen your feedback on this and we are looking into the matter for any possible solutions. Thanks!
Steve_Lukas
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https://developer.qualcomm.com/forum/qdevnet-forums/multimedia-optimization-qdsp/13248
So far, these are the only responses I have seen from Qualcomm (on twitter):
Jun 13: Thanks for your interest. We're considering any possible solutions and will let you know when we have an update.
Jun 15: We're considering any possible solutions and will keep you posted when we have an update. Thanks for your interest!
Jun 16: Thanks for your interest in the OMX drivers. We're considering possible solutions & we'll keep you posted when we have an update.
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I'm hoping the wording means something. First they said "we're considering any possible solutions" but now it's "we're considering possible solutions." I might be taking things too far, but by taking out the "any," it sounds like they might have some solutions. Once again, I might just be getting my hopes high.
But onto something more important than wording:
I think instead of asking "please release the drivers," the question should now be "have you found any solutions regarding the omx drivers" or maybe even "what chance do ARMv6 phones have of getting updated omx drivers." I'm hoping for a more definite answer (I'd rather hear that we will not get it instead of waiting for an update that will never come). Can someone ask any of these questions (or a better question if you have one) on their page, preferably twitter because they don't seem to be too active on their facebook page and on their forum).
If they have totally forgotten about us (or are not actually trying to find such solutions), this will remind them that they gave us their word that they will find solutions.
In case you were wondering why I posted this out of nowhere, it is because:
1. Support for this "cause" seems to be dying down now. I don't want it to come to a point where we all just give up and deal with what we have, which is a bug-ridden rom. We can look for more support, but I think it's time we get a somewhat definite answer from Qualcomm.
2. I'm sick of CM7
Of course, we must remember that they don't have to do this and, whether they are successful or not, appreciate that they even replied to our request in the first place.
If they have msm7227a with just the same hardware, but arm7 core, I can't understand why they can't just recompile it for arm6? Strong kernel dependencies?
I think this might be marketing-related.
divanikus said:
If they have msm7227a with just the same hardware, but arm7 core, I can't understand why they can't just recompile it for arm6? Strong kernel dependencies?
I think this might be marketing-related.
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Definitely agree with you. I don't think a company has any reason to drop support for any of its older products other than to force users to buy the newer products. Really makes it pointless to buy anything at all because they will always release newer products. I just hope Qualcomm lives up to the reputation it set for itself after releasing the Adreno drivers last time.
And I know for a fact that Qualcomm has the power to recompile for ARMv6. After all, Qualcomm did it with the Adreno drivers.
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Definitely agree with you. I don't think a company has any reason to drop support for any of its older products other than to force users to buy the newer products. Really makes it pointless to buy anything at all because they will always release newer products. I just hope Qualcomm lives up to the reputation it set for itself after releasing the Adreno drivers last time.
And I know for a fact that Qualcomm has the power to recompile for ARMv6. After all, Qualcomm did it with the Adreno drivers.
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The drivers will be released, just have patience...
If they were to drop their support, they would have already posted that they wont be able to update those drivers...
They are responding to our queries n that means they are working on it...
Have patience, nothing more...
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They still may answer 'NO' .
The situation makes me think they might have some marketing agreement on this, not to release updates until their partners are able to sell newer models. They are highly dependent on selling end products after all. If they release them too soon, chinese market might be overfilled with cheap arm6-driven ics devices . They already have cheap arm7 devices though...
Anyway, clear answer is highly awaited by many people watching this threads.
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They still may answer 'NO' .
The situation makes me think they might have some marketing agreement on this, not to release updates until their partners are able to sell newer models. They are highly dependent on selling end products after all. If they release them too soon, chinese market might be overfilled with cheap arm6-driven ics devices . They already have cheap arm7 devices though...
Anyway, clear answer is highly awaited by many people watching this threads.
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The answer did end up being no (more info in the following link):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27627783
If only Qualcomm told us what they attempted to do regarding the drivers. Maybe that would have helped our developers.
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I think they just don't want to release them. They didn't released any code for that chip before. Totally lame.
If they won't support it, maybe we should ask for unsupported version, provided as is?
Hey,
I need some help. I was wondering how to go about loading android on embedded devices. I need to load android into a watch-like device. Can u please help me out?
Whose watch is it? Texas Instruments? I doubt that their device can run Android. It has lots of sensors, but very little storage or memory.
If not, what are the specs on the watch? CPU? RAM? NAND flash? Battery capacity? Do you have Linux device drivers already? Can you write them if not? Are you a Linux expert or better?
I recommend a book: "Making Things Talk - 2nd Edition" by O'Reilly Media.
cheekrox said:
Hey,
I need some help. I was wondering how to go about loading android on embedded devices. I need to load android into a watch-like device. Can u please help me out?
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Motorola gave you the perfect platform, just pick one of these up and root it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuHFfsuGyR8&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
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joshw0000 said:
Motorola gave you the perfect platform, just pick one of these up and root it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuHFfsuGyR8&feature=youtube_gdata_player.
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I've never even looked at those. It looks like electric candy!
Have you used one of these? Is it as WOW! as moto represents it?
I think my wife needs one of these so I can see whether I can glue an Intel-1000 a/b/g/n wifi card to the back of the case.
Giblet535 said:
I've never even looked at those. It looks like electric candy!
Have you used one of these? Is it as WOW! as moto represents it?
I think my wife needs one of these so I can see whether I can glue an Intel-1000 a/b/g/n wifi card to the back of the case.
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I've never used one but it's certainly on my wish list. What's the wifi card for? It supports wifi out of the box.
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Ohhhh... WiFi wasn't listed in the only sales blurb I read. Sales Blurb FAIL.
WANT!
Giblet535 said:
Ohhhh... WiFi wasn't listed in the only sales blurb I read. Sales Blurb FAIL.
WANT!
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Looks like you can grab one BNIB on ebay for about $200. Let me know if you get one. I've been debating it for some time now.
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Sony do an android smartwatch even cheaper
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Sony has a history of abandoning products once they ship, and their software, at its best, is pretty bad.
The SmartWatch is cheap and promises much...but it has that brand name.
Nono!!!! I need to make this watch from scratch. So yeah, please tell me how 2 go about it. Do i need to write the drivers myself? How do I go about embedding Android into it? Its not a TI SoC, its just a generec 500MHz ARM processor. RAM may be about 256MB. My watch has a lot of sensors too, how do I get this to [email protected]!!!!
cheekrox said:
Nono!!!! I need to make this watch from scratch. So yeah, please tell me how 2 go about it. Do i need to write the drivers myself? How do I go about embedding Android into it? Its not a TI SoC, its just a generec 500MHz ARM processor. RAM may be about 256MB. My watch has a lot of sensors too, how do I get this to [email protected]!!!!
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Yes, you'll have to write the drivers or, depending on what chips you intend to use, there may already be some drivers, or portions of drivers, available from the linux.org sources.
I'd get that O'Reilly book too.
You may want to discuss this on the Hack-a-Day forums, since those guys tend to focus on the low-level side of hardware/software integration, very small-scale electronics, and the problems that can arise from micro-miniaturization on the scale you're considering.
Giblet535 said:
Yes, you'll have to write the drivers or, depending on what chips you intend to use, there may already be some drivers, or portions of drivers, available from the linux.org sources.
I'd get that O'Reilly book too.
You may want to discuss this on the Hack-a-Day forums, since those guys tend to focus on the low-level side of hardware/software integration, very small-scale electronics, and the problems that can arise from micro-miniaturization on the scale you're considering.
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It generally takes teams of developers to port Android to new devices and in most cases, it's buggy on initial release. I'd be very interested to see this if you're able to do it. I think your best bet would be to find a device with similar specs that's already running Android and port it over.
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SO ur saying it IS possible to get Android up n running on small devices? Coz I'm kinda in a hurry and need my prototype to be ready within a month. Approximately, how long would it take to get this up and running?
cheekrox said:
SO ur saying it IS possible to get Android up n running on small devices? Coz I'm kinda in a hurry and need my prototype to be ready within a month. Approximately, how long would it take to get this up and running?
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How many C programmers do you have available who have workable experience with Linux device drivers AND Android architecture?
Proof of concept in one month? You'll need a team of five seasoned C programmers, I'd think, but they'll need to be really good at it.
If you don't have a team yet, check Dice.com, Hack-A-Day, StackOverflow.com, the piece-work sites, etc.
PS: Explain that you need to do a demo of all features/functions on a prototype Android watch in 30 days. List the chips/sets used in the design (you can't waste time waiting for half the team to learn about the hardware).
I mean no offense, but the OS/software development should have coincided with the HW design/dev work, and been included in the original business plans or project plans. Live and learn, right?
I'd help out but I'm full-up for the next six months.
I want to try Windows 8 on the S3. Everyone knows it is possible but nobody knows who is working on it nor when it will be available.
I dont think people will bother in porting Windows Phone 7.5 but when Windows PHONE 8 comes out then people will try.
But what about the full beta OS of Windows 8?, just like in the past people were porting Ubuntu over to Android Handsets.
Lets be honest Windows Phone 8 (if it is what it claims to be) will leave Android and Google dead in the water.
Personally, I'm more than happy with Android. If you really want to make this happen though, good luck, but if you are only trying to start a flame war, then please do so somewhere else.
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Maybe look at Samsungs new ativ s handset, very similar specs to s3, same size screen, nice looking phone.
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maybe windows 8 is the future
you know guys, i think android is the best mobile OS and indeed it is, but some times i am thinking maybe the future will be for windows phone, it is just a feeling, but if we look back to the 90's when windows 95 came out, a lot of people were saying it will fail, it is stolen it is, it is ...etc., but look now, windows is every where.
Microsoft now is taking the right track of developing the windows phone OS, even if we don't like it they are doing a great job and this job will take them some were.
Oh please. You haven't even seen it and you claim it will be better than anything else.
well seen as windows 8 is all closed source getting to to even boot would be a nightmare!
Lennyuk said:
well seen as windows 8 is all closed source getting to to even boot would be a nightmare!
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Finally some sense!
Getting wp8 to boot on the S3 will be a mammoth challenge, getting it to the point of a daily driver will be impossible.
No sources, no fun.
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Good luck making W8 even run on this specific hardware.
That is, even you could even access the source to begin with, considering it being closed-source. Also, good luck making it public since Microsoft will go Apple on your arse.
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Good luck making W8 even run on this specific hardware.
That is, even you could even access the source to begin with, considering it being closed-source. Also, good luck making it public since Microsoft will go Apple on your arse.
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Will 'go apple'! Love it :laugh:
not the best
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Oh please. You haven't even seen it and you claim it will be better than anything else.
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i didn't say it will be the best, but Microsoft is a smart company. and you can know a little about it by visiting youtube and searching for windows phone 8.
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Will 'go apple'! Love it :laugh:
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I bet they're willing to go thermonuclear war on this, if you catch my drift.
Phh.....it will have its fans, but seriously, am i that retarded that i cannot hit icon and i need four times bigger "widget" to do it.....im just going to stick with android for now....no offense i have win8 installed since consumer preview, but i think it just doesnt offer enough to be used by me (closed source is biggest con)
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Phh.....it will have its fans, but seriously, am i that retarded that i cannot hit icon and i need four times bigger "widget" to do it.....im just going to stick with android for now....no offense i have win8 installed since consumer preview, but i think it just doesnt offer enough to be used by me (closed source is biggest con)
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You probably are able to use the search button as well unlike the Win Phone posters who cannot be even bothered to read yesterdays i want win phone post .
jje
I honestly couldn't think of a worse OS for a mobile device. I liked windows os when i had xda's from years ago. then i had iphone and loved that, then moved to android which to me will be the best os for years to come.
the latest edition of windows phone, with tiles . . . . rubbish idea IMO!!!
At least with android you can have what you want where you want and have a good old desktop experience.
Android all the way i say!!
To the OP . . . good luck in your quest to run windows phone 8 on your gs3. :laugh:
Paul.
If you ask this it feels like you say "Let's port iOS to SGS3." Android is the best OS ever. Not because I'm saying that no because everyone says that. And WP8 is even weaker. Which Smartphones will get that? Nokias, Xingxings or other that. Android is #simplythebest! Sorry bout that but this had to be!
Pozdrav
Croatia1
wait ativ s release then go buy it
WP 8 version of s3
corporate tosh....just like Apple
Open source= anarchy in action= freedom
Enjoy your Windows/Apple slavery....personally I like my freedom
Where there is a will there is a way. If the HD2 can have Android and Windows Phone 7.5, then the S3 can certainly do it aswell.
And to those who think that Windows 8 will not be good and it is just another lame Microsoft attempt etc..
Imagine a day where you could flash ROMS and edit system files without a PC. You think Mobiles will ever allow you to flash another mobile??
Not in the next 10-15 years at least. Mobiles are largley entertainment and communication based.
Where as productivity and production-power will always remain with WINDOWS PCs. Hence, ''WINDOWS'' - Mac is a overated system which will never find a place for Mobile developers.
Why? Because of the price and the lack of customization. -- JUST LIKE iOS.
Windows 8 and Phone 8 will change the surface of Mobile in such a way that it will kill of Apple and then (sadly) Droids.
Android is cool and customizable OS but can be more unstable and insecure then any other.
At least with Windows there is security --- whether on a Phone or PC.
TechMayhem said:
Where there is a will there is a way. If the HD2 can have Android and Windows Phone 7.5, then the S3 can certainly do it aswell.
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Porting android to a new device is relatively easy, because we have access to the source, hence android on HD2. Porting a closed source OS, windows 8, to a new device is a magnitude harder and illegal to boot.
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TechMayhem said:
Where there is a will there is a way. If the HD2 can have Android and Windows Phone 7.5, then the S3 can certainly do it aswell.
And to those who think that Windows 8 will not be good and it is just another lame Microsoft attempt etc..
Imagine a day where you could flash ROMS and edit system files without a PC. You think Mobiles will ever allow you to flash another mobile??
Not in the next 10-15 years at least. Mobiles are largley entertainment and communication based.
Where as productivity and production-power will always remain with WINDOWS PCs. Hence, ''WINDOWS'' - Mac is a overated system which will never find a place for Mobile developers.
Why? Because of the price and the lack of customization. -- JUST LIKE iOS.
Windows 8 and Phone 8 will change the surface of Mobile in such a way that it will kill of Apple and then (sadly) Droids.
Android is cool and customizable OS but can be more unstable and insecure then any other.
At least with Windows there is security --- whether on a Phone or PC.
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I'm a fellow Nexus 10 owner. I love my device, but I'm a bit tired of facing applications that are low-resolution and unoptimized for the incredible display we have on the Nexus 10. Even tablet-optimized apps are lacking. Aren't you frustrated? Hence, I thought we could do something about it as a community.
Which is the purpose of this thread!
Here's how it will work. This first post will serve as a compilation of all the petitions made to any and all developers to optimize their applications for tablets, and also the Nexus 10's display. Any subsequent posts in this thread shall be for petition requests and discussion, which I will personally put together and post up to the petition site being used for this purpose (Care2 as of this thread's posting). I will then add a direct link to that petition to this thread, sorted by category. Feel free to make any suggestions or to criticize! I will also start us off with a petition I have already created myself: to the developers of the Bloons TD series of games, Ninja Kiwi.
I'll try to keep things simple! Keep on topic, please, and try your best to sign each and every petition. Its the only way we'll be able to actually push developers to optimize their applications for tablets like ours! So, without further ado, let us begin!
Petition List
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Bloons TD 5 - Optimize Bloons TD 5 for Android Tablets
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Facebook - Optimize Facebook for Android Tablets
Instagram - Optimize Instagram for Android Tablets
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This is likely Google's job, not ours. In any event, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are three that immediately spring to mind. Not because they are low resolution -- not sure what you mean there -- but because the layouts are so clearly designed for smaller screens. I shouldn't have to opt for Friendcaster, Tabstagram, and Plume.
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JasW said:
This is likely Google's job, not ours. In any event, Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter are three that immediately spring to mind. Not because they are low resolution -- not sure what you mean there -- but because the layouts are so clearly designed for smaller screens. I shouldn't have to opt for Friendcaster, Tabstagram, and Plume.
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No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
A dedicated Facebook app should be a priority. My mate has an iPad and I found myself looking longingly at the sickness of the dedicated app. Something needs to be done to put a stop to this sick perversion!
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This is likely Google's job, not ours.
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I would tend to agree with Brees on this one, which you could probably guess. I think Brees put it excellently!
brees75 said:
No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
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Its the job of the application developers to get out proper apps. Google has done TONS of work already. Now we need to show these guys that we, the users, actually care about proper tablet applications, and that it is worth the investment.
Thats why I created this thread - if we don't do something about it, no-one will! I'm going to try to get as many signatures as possible, and I'm going to spread this thread across multiple forums if necessary. AndroidTablets.net springs to mind.
Eztiban said:
A dedicated Facebook app should be a priority. My mate has an iPad and I found myself looking longingly at the sickness of the dedicated app. Something needs to be done to put a stop to this sick perversion!
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Exactly! I'm tired of this sort of thing. This needs to be put to a stop. I'll create the petition.
Like previously said all those social apps need optimization for sure. And the xda app needs optimization. I think there's an HD version but it costs money
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brees75 said:
No, it's the app devs job. The point of this is to show them that there is a need for this to be done by enough of their user base to merit the work hours it will take them to implement it. What they don't know ends up hurting us. It is actually an excellent idea.
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CWalkop said:
I would tend to agree with Brees on this one, which you could probably guess. I think Brees put it excellently!Its the job of the application developers to get out proper apps. Google has done TONS of work already. Now we need to show these guys that we, the users, actually care about proper tablet applications, and that it is worth the investment.
Thats why I created this thread - if we don't do something about it, no-one will! I'm going to try to get as many signatures as possible, and I'm going to spread this thread across multiple forums if necessary. AndroidTablets.net springs to mind.
Exactly! I'm tired of this sort of thing. This needs to be put to a stop. I'll create the petition.
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You'll excuse me if I seem overly cynical about this. I used to be a BlackBerry user. Well over two years ago, some folks on Crackberry launched a campaign to bombard Reid Hastings, the president of Netflix, with email to get Netflix on the BlackBerry platform (the OS 6 devices like the Torch had then fairly recently come out). If you are familiar with Crackberry, you know that they are a rabid, fanatical horde. Nothing happened. Then came the petitions -- change.org and the like. They are still going on more than two years plus later, and despite the fact that BlackBerry now has quite decent phones and a decent OS in BB10, there is still no Netflix on the platform.
EDIT: Holy! I already have 4 signatures for Facebook on Android Tablets and I haven't even posted it anywhere yet! That shows something.
C'mon guys, I'll post it up in the main thread. Vote for it now!
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You'll excuse me if I seem overly cynical about this. I used to be a BlackBerry user. Well over two years ago, some folks on Crackberry launched a campaign to bombard Reid Hastings, the president of Netflix, with email to get Netflix on the BlackBerry platform (the OS 6 devices like the Torch had then fairly recently come out). If you are familiar with Crackberry, you know that they are a rabid, fanatical horde. Nothing happened. Then came the petitions -- change.org and the like. They are still going on more than two years plus later, and despite the fact that BlackBerry now has quite decent phones and a decent OS in BB10, there is still no Netflix on the platform.
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I think your points make sense, but they aren't a valid reason really to cause Netflix to develop for BB10. The marketshare simply isn't there.
With Android, however, the market has shown that it is a valid platform (and I hate to say that as if it was an option - c'mon. ANDROID IS AWESOME! ); it makes sense for them to update, and it only helps us out. We need to show them that we actually CARE. If they understand that, then they will update for us without question. If they have any business sense, that is.
Same with BB10 (which is, quite frankly, a very nice OS - it even has NFC Beaming support between BB and Android devices). If they had the market AND Crackberry screaming like it was/is, they would get a proper app quite quickly.
This deserved a quick update post: the petitions for Facebook and Instagram are now online. Facebook already has a few votes!
I just signed Facebook one.
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What's the address part for?
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What's the address part for?
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So that you can be stalked lol. No need to put you real address I made one up and it didn't even check if it was right
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What's the address part for?
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Yeah, what abdel said lol.
Its mostly to confirm that you're a real person with a real place to live, that kinda stuff.
CWalkop said:
EDIT: Holy! I already have 4 signatures for Facebook on Android Tablets and I haven't even posted it anywhere yet! That shows something.
C'mon guys, I'll post it up in the main thread. Vote for it now!
I think your points make sense, but they aren't a valid reason really to cause Netflix to develop for BB10. The marketshare simply isn't there.
With Android, however, the market has shown that it is a valid platform (and I hate to say that as if it was an option - c'mon. ANDROID IS AWESOME! ); it makes sense for them to update, and it only helps us out. We need to show them that we actually CARE. If they understand that, then they will update for us without question. If they have any business sense, that is.
Same with BB10 (which is, quite frankly, a very nice OS - it even has NFC Beaming support between BB and Android devices). If they had the market AND Crackberry screaming like it was/is, they would get a proper app quite quickly.
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BB's problem is definitely rooted in market share, something that Android in general obviously has no problem with. But the numbers dwindle considerably when you're talking about Android tablet market share, and then on top of that, you've got to consider how many Android tablet users really care that there are some apps that are just scaled up phone versions. Apple cared enough to do something about it -- remember that was one of the criticisms of the first iPad, i.e., that it seemed just like a oversized iPod. Google has not been responsive on this front (nor on others for that matter).
Anyway, I don't want to discourage anyone, so have at it.
Signed them all and subscribed to thread, will check daily to check for new petitions
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BB's problem is definitely rooted in market share, something that Android in general obviously has no problem with. But the numbers dwindle considerably when you're talking about Android tablet market share, and then on top of that, you've got to consider how many Android tablet users really care that there are some apps that are just scaled up phone versions. Apple cared enough to do something about it -- remember that was one of the criticisms of the first iPad, i.e., that it seemed just like a oversized iPod. Google has not been responsive on this front (nor on others for that matter).
Anyway, I don't want to discourage anyone, so have at it.
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Don't worry, you're not discouraging (me, at least).
Android Tablet market share has been steadily on the rise - in fact, it rivals the iPad. According to many statistics, they are slated to pass (if they have not already) Apple devices in tablet market share by the 3rd quarter. I listed 3 (or 4?) links in all of the petitions.
As for Google, they have been doing a great job lately. They added dedicated tablet sections to Google Play, and have been pushing developers to adhere to the guidelines constantly. I say keep up that pressure!
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Signed them all and subscribed to thread, will check daily to check for new petitions
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Thanks! We need more people like you here. Keep it up!
As for everyone else, keep an eye out for new petitions; and, most importantly of all:
SIGN THEM!!!!
We have hundreds of views on this thread, yet most people don't seem to want to take 60 seconds and sign the petitions, oddly enough. And this is a Nexus 10 forum. Keep it up, anyway! We CAN do this with enough time.
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One of these days I plan to actually try to learn some Android development; I'll be sure to make whatever apps I make optimized for the N10 though :good: