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I just got my GT 7.0 Plus for Christmas and absolutely love it. I really like the compact 7" design and it will fit my needs perfectly. Now that my wife has played with it, she wants one too, but bigger. She is considering the 8.9" or 10". Since they are both the same price right now, she is leaning towards the 10".
What are the differences between the 3 tabs? From what I can tell the 10.1 and 8.9 are a little older and have Android 3.1 while my 7.0+ has 3.2. How much difference is there in the 2 OS versions?
I also see that my 7.0+ has the Samsung Exynos™ 2x1.2GHz processor. What is in the 8.9 and 10.1? Is it dual core?
Any other differences worth mentioning?
Keep in mind this is for my wife and she will not be rooting or modding it... She just needs something that is stable and just works.
I realise that this is a Gtab forum and I might possible get flamed for this, but here I go anyway
If your wife wants something that will be stable and will just work, without any tinkering or rooting or anything, and if she wants the tablet mostly for watching video, surfing the net, checking mail, playing some games etc. I'd recommend an iPad over the Gtab.
Why?
I'm absolutely in love with my Galaxy Tab, but I took the time to learn about it and tweak it. Hell, I scout these forums whenever I can to find some new tricks or tweaks. After it's tweaked, I'd never change it for an iPad, but if you're staying at stock, right now iPad is much smoother and overall a much better user experience - this may change in a few months when the official ICS comes out, but we can't be sure about that yet.
Why is she so averse against moding or rooting it? It's easy to learn and it can make the tab a whole different experience then remaining at official stock. Even if you don't want the "unstable" custom ROM (I'm writing in parenthesis since I haven't seen an unstable custom ROM here yet), you could go for a newer version of stock ROMs, or for CM9 when it comes out, those will most probably be as stable as the official stock, but still be faster/better then the one you get from Samsung if you wait for the official update.
There is practically no danger in rooting and moding your tablet, if you read the instructions and don't mess with stuff you don't understand, and there are many good guides around. And if you don't like it, you can still return everything back to the way it was through backups, no harm done.
As for the difference between devices, there are many reviews explaining just that around, google them
Heres one for technical specs, detailing differences between different tabs and galaxy note: http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-vs-8-9-vs-7-inch
[Edit] You can also move the list items around or add extra items to the comparison list in the link, if you want to compare your 8.9 to any other devices.
She is not averse to modding or rooting, but if it's not a stable release it causes more problems for me. She got her Infuse 4G right after it came out and I flashed a couple of not so stable roms and she hated them. It's fine now since the talented devs have released new stuff, but I have my own tablet and droid phone to keep running smooth, so I don't want to have to worry about hers too. As long as the stock rom will make her happy, I will leave it at that. But if there are roms that would make it better, she won't mind me modding it, so long as they are stable roms (which sounds like that won't be an issue).
One of the things she liked about mine was the screen shot button. I assume that's also there on the 8.9 and 10.1?
And the iPad is out. I absolutely hate Apple products (mostly due to iTunes) and will never own another one. We both had iPhones and neither one of us would ever go back. I have her trained to hate Apple as well.
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I have her trained to hate Apple as well.
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Haha, I have the feeling that we'd get along well
If the only problem keeping her from modding is stable releases, then there's no problem at all .
Yes, the screenshot button is part of HC's standard and every ROM I've seen till now has it (heard there is a way to disable it though, but I like it there ).
Are you thinking about the Wi-Fi only (7510) or about the 3G (7500) tablet? The 7500 is a bit more limited when it comes to different ROMs, as there are only 3 floating around right now, CM9 is currently being made for 7510 etc.
The 3G roms are Overcome, Ganbarou and BinDroid. I've tried BinDroid and Overcome (stayed on Overcome because the theme on BinDroid started to seem a bit too intrusive for my tasted after a few days) and they were both really stable. I don't think I've ever had any problems with any of them (I might have gotten a FC here and there, but nothing that I'd remember, nothing in the last week or so, and definitely nothing I couldn't have gotten on stock ROM).
For 7510, everyone recommends Task650's Galaxy Task, but I can't speak from personal experience as I need my tabs 3G connection. Some are saying that v8 is better then v9 or v10, but you should look in that thread or ask someone else to make sure.
As for the kernel, Pershoot's OC kernel is the undisputed champion - it allows you to OC, push extra modules (NTFS for instance) and stuff like that.
The Overcome experience also has a really nice guide to follow if you want to make sure you don't do something wrong (though it sounds like you know what you're doing), or if you want your wife to learn how to flash her tablet herself
I'll be getting the WiFi version only. She has an AT&T 4G phone and I have a Verizon 4GLTE phone and both have tethering enabled. So between the two of us, we almost always have a fast connection when away from WiFi. It sounds like either of the larger tablets would be a good fit for her. We might go to BB this evening so she can play with both before I order one.
The Task650 Rom looks pretty nice. Might have to flash that one for her to try.
Thanks for all the help guys!
10.1 and 8.9 are similar
Its just about the size
I have a 10.1 stock with ADWlauncher Ex and everything is smooth and stable.
A good point to consider would also be the available ROMs/tweaks/developers/accessories. I myself like the big screen, so I wouldn't go for the 8.9, even though that one is easier to handle with one hand only (you can actually hold it on one side, while I usually hold my tab in the middle with one hand, similar to how I would hold an open book).
Some places also offer testing devices, so maybe you could get one of those for a few days to see which one suits your needs better?
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10.1 and 8.9 are similar
Its just about the size
I have a 10.1 stock with ADWlauncher Ex and everything is smooth and stable.
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I think later on will be also with 7.7.. CMIIW..
I have the wifi tab, but after rooting and installing Task with the pershoot kernel, I also added the adhoc tethering hack and can now use my tab with my phone....
Best of both worlds without another data plan issue.
I went ahead and ordered the 10.1, should be here this week. And I have wifi tethering enabled on both of our phones, so the wifi version works just fine. Thanks for all the input!
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I went ahead and ordered the 10.1, should be here this week. And I have wifi tethering enabled on both of our phones, so the wifi version works just fine. Thanks for all the input!
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Awesome and a great choice. I've tried both In Paris V5 and GalaxyTask V10 on my GTab (2nd one mind you...sold my 1st one like an idiot and it was a 32 gig but now I'm back with a 16gig)
I've been looking for a good tab to get the gf around vday and I keep coming back to wanting to get her the Gtab.
Numerous stable roms, good support, lots of accessories, and ICS/CM9 right around the corner.
I think you and your wife will be very happy with it. Either of Galaxy/Phantom's ROMs are about as stable as you can get, just depends on if you want 3.1 or 3.2. With 3.2 Galaxytask you can flash b00sted's ICS theme, which is a very nice simplistic theme.
ETA: As for cases, I used the Gumdrop cases. Otterbox doesn't make any for the 10.1 and have no plans to, (which to me is stupid) but with that said, my Gumdrop cases have been on par or better than any Otterbox defender cases I have tried for other gadgets. Like the Defender cases, they do add a bit of size and weight but honestly I feel so much more confident in the robust nature of the tab with their cases on. Now if I could just find a car dock that would work with the case.
Hi guys.
I found today at local retailer Atrix with Laptop dock at a price of 370€.
http://www.electroworld.sk/product/...ily/MOTATRIXLAP/motorola-atrix-mobil-lap-dock
I have a HTC Desire Z for almost a year now and would like to upgrade.
Is this a good choice? It's a better hw, I pretty love the webtop idea.
It's not Asus PadPhone (I will miss a tablet possibility), but I will get instead a laptop and hdmi+bt keyboard+touchpad comfort.
My questions to the Atrix community are:
1) is it possible to get HDMI + bluetooth keyboard with touchpad working without any hacks? Just out of the box?
2) what are the news about ICS upgrade? I have seen som official motorola page that said it's in "evaluation", but the US version has a plan for Q2(3?) Also some webtop 3.0 video is on youtube (think from RAZR)
3) are there any glitches that I should be aware before buying? What makes you feel so bad, you would not buy it now?
4) any other useful user experiences
Thanks a lot.
I dont know all the answers, but from my experience:
1.- Works on ICS betas, have never tried it with the GB based ROMS
2.- There is a good chance the official ICS will be out in the next 2-3 months from Moto. The video is from a Razr ICS leak showing that it essentially is done away with Webtop as it was, and now runs ICS full screen.
3.- I've had the device for 3-4 months now I guess, coming off a I4. I have been playing with Android OS since the nook color got hacked to run it, and run it on a HP Touchpad as well as the nook color and now my Atrix. My only caveat with the Atrix is I really dislike the power button location. That said, I just setup to use my volume rocker to wake the device, and so I rarely hit the power button at all anymore.
4.- Current ICS betas are all quite nice, but the things that dont work can be irritating. The main issue for myself was browser rotation and video camera support being slow/inconsistent. I have used Neutrino ROM and stock CM7 and liked them both. I prefer Neutrino these days because I like a clean minimalistic OS, but your mileage may vary there. That said once ICS is out in force and drivers are updated, I will be hauling ass to ICS as I prefer it a LOT more than GB.
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Hi guys.
1) is it possible to get HDMI + bluetooth keyboard with touchpad working without any hacks? Just out of the box?
2) what are the news about ICS upgrade? I have seen som official motorola page that said it's in "evaluation", but the US version has a plan for Q2(3?) Also some webtop 3.0 video is on youtube (think from RAZR)
3) are there any glitches that I should be aware before buying? What makes you feel so bad, you would not buy it now?
4) any other useful user experiences
Thanks a lot.
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Use unlocked Atrix 4G from canada in india
(Sorry to hijack the thread. I need to decide very quickly and cant start a new thread as i'm a new member)
Hi All,
I'm planning to buy a unlocked Atrix 4G from canada and use it in India.
(my cousin will be coming from canada in few days)
I got the online deal from newegg.ca at $360. (still a new member so cant paste link here)
Here are few questions I have:
1. I'm pretty sure it is a good deal, but can someone confirm if its worth buying at apprx $360 ?
2. Apart from no radio, does it have any other major cons that I should be aware of?
3. I love to flash/root my phones for complete customizations, i've seen a lot of really cool custom roms in the Atrix 4G forum here. But in some forums I read the bootloader is locked for some phones. my question is, is already unlocked for a unlocked phone? if not, is it easily unlockable?
4. (Dumb question at last ) Will there be official ICS update for Atrix 4G? I dont plan on using the official one, but I hope there will be enough awesome custom roms based on official one.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Arpit
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Config specs of Atrix 4G seem pretty capable to run all kind of high graphic games.
Just want to confirm if it has no issues running any games.
hello guys , right now i'm a htc wildfire s owner and i'm looking to replace it with a new android device ( better hardware ) and iam very confused between 2 devices the Motorola Atrix 4g and the Sony Xperia Sola but i kinda like the Atrix because of this huge forum there is alot of Roms and stuff but i wanted u Atrix owners to help me explain some points
- i read here on xda that all the new Atrix devices well not be unlocked link here sooo is that true ?
- if i bought this device i think i'll unlock it after a couple weeks and if i wanted to know what isn't exactly working in the CM9 rom cuz it's my favorite and does toggling bluetooth and wifi force restart the device ( ohhh god i sufferd this issue with my wfs ) and does the HDMI port work with ICS based roms ? !!
- is there a webtop for ics roms ?
- in worst cases is CM7 fully working ? !! ( stable ) cuz i can't imagine my self stuck with the orginal rom
that's it for now, thank u guys in advance hope to to join u soon
The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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The Sola and Atrix are both damn good phones, The Sola looks nice, has a good(similar to i9100)chipset, better camera, better screen and the Atrix has more functionality (TegraZone, webtop, docks, 1gb ram etc)
The Atrix also has a lot more development going on at the moment, compared to the Sola and the latest CM7.2 build runs perfectly on the Atrix.
But it's up to you.
Edit( whether it is "un-lockable" depends on where you buy it from, yes the newer ones aren't, but they still have the initial batches floating around)
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! )
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Resolution of the screen is really nice but for me personally a little too high for a 4" screen.
But the main problem is the colours it produces. Blacks aren't completely black they have a slight brownish greyish look to them. The other colours in general look washed out. Doesn't bother me too much but when comparing to other phones the difference in colours is instantly noticeable.
The atrix hardware is nice. Will run anything you throw at it. We have a very nice stable cm7.2 rom
If I were you I would wait a little while longer to see if Motorola release official ICS for the atrix before buying one unless you don't mind sticking with gingerbread.
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Atrix is a very solid phone, and I would take it over the Sola.
You have GB/CM7 for now, and CM7 is very stable. ICS coming sometime in QTR 3...
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well thank's to you mate , but are u sure the sola has a better screen compared to the atrix ( the atrix has a higher ppi and res !! ) and u said it's wether unlockable or not depeinding on where i buy i don't relly get what u mean but i'll be buying it from egypt and not from a specific carrier soo it's not locked for a certain carrier and can u please provide me with any information about what's not working in the cm9 build and most important the HDMI out ....
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Well the screen is also smaller on the sola, and it has a full set of sub pixels as well as the bravia engine.
The Atrix has a pentile matrix, so even though there is more pixel density, the pentile matrix makes individual pixels more visible.
Well since you're buying in egypt, there probably is a chance your local store has the initial-release stock of the atrix. But there is no garuntee, I bought a second atrix (for a friend), here in New Zealand a few weeks ago and it was unlockable,
I personally haven't tried ICS or JB because im more interested in a working phone (LOL), I don't like having to toy around with things that only work half the time and/or not at all, thats why I try to stay away from the roms until they're stable.....But still, support the developers for their hard work, even if you aren't using their roms just yet (they all look promising).
there are a lot of things not working in the CM9/CM10 roms, that even the devs can't list them all, and a lot of functionality is software-based because there is no driver support for hardware until next month or so, when we get the official ICS from Moto.
The phone works great on CM7 if you're willing to buy it now.
Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
if my Atirx will be broken, I Will buy another Atrix. This is one of the greates devices, fingerprint lock, webtop, and many more Especialy Tegra2 and 1GB RAM
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Prefer to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes, etc... for most update ROM is already there.
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okay your totally right the Galaxy nexus is a great phone but comparing the prices here where is live the atrix sells for 2000 EGP and the nexus for 3500 EGP so there is a huge difference that i can't afford right now and there is also a thing that i don't like about all the nexuses ( except the nexus one ) which is there is no SD Card ..... i can't really imagine my life without an SD Card
I'm considering the same 2 phones. Which phone did you buy, the Xperia Sola or the Atrix?
Atrix
the Atrix is still one of the best phones I have ever owned, and the accessories are great and probably much cheaper now
Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Like people have said before, cm7 works perfectly. But there is not gonna be any ics for this phone from motorola. The devs are working on jellybean right now. Epinter's cm10 is pretty much a daily driver with hw acceleration issues because of no drivers for kernel. Apart from that its a great rom.
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Problem is that there will never be any official ICS from Motorola, and unless the Olympus ICS/JB kernel port is successful, it's likely there will never be any third party HW acceleration either. And yes, there is talk of Motorola releasing the code for the unfinished ICS kernel, but talk is one thing, but I wouldn't bet the farm on seeing it happen any more than I'd bet on a dead horse winning the Kentucky Derby.
Sure the device itself isn't bad, but the only support you will get for the device is dependent on a dwindling community. Honestly, if I knew then what I know now, I wouldn't have just gotten something different, I would have ran away from the thing screaming like a little girl.
Hi,
I'm from Indonesia, and i own Xperia Ray now, and i am interested on Razr Maxx because of the battery life but beside that, i also expect the non laggy performance of a dual core and 1GB of RAM.
Can the Razr Maxx be recommended for me at this time of year? Fyi, the Razr Maxx is still +- 500 USD Sim free on my country, while Acro S is around the same price, and SGS3 for around 650USD. Meanwhile the original RAZR is around 350USD (on discount) and Galaxy Nexus for 330USD. the Razr Maxx HD, which is my dream phone, is still unclear whether it will come to my country on the future, regarding of Motorola decision to reduce the Asia Pasific scope.
Things that make me doubtful with Razr Maxx are the CPU+GPU side (which is so 2011 but nonetheless should be still more powerful than a single core of Xperia Ray shouldn't it be?) and the unclear JB update path (no precise date mentioned on upgrade table).
Should i choose another phone? Or should i wait for the Razr Maxx HD? Really need your input who owns RAZR Maxx Thanks for any input
PS: I prefer not having a Samsung device cause of the TouchWiz. My preferences is to use ICS UI, or any UI that is unobtrusive to the ICS core UI (like Sony's )
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Things that make me doubtful with Razr Maxx are the CPU+GPU side (which is so 2011 but nonetheless should be still more powerful than a single core of Xperia Ray shouldn't it be?) and the unclear JB update path (no precise date mentioned on upgrade table).
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I won't be too worried about the existing hardware on the Razr Maxx. I'm running ICS very smoothly, and while I'm not running any super high advanced programs, nothing I've tired to run has slowed it down at all.
That said, with the way phone tech is changing so fast, I probably wouldn't get a one if I was looking right now. Newer phones are designed for all the advantages of the newest OS, the Maxx was a 2.3 phone while 4.2 is out now. Just two examples: The Maxx still has the "hard" buttons at the bottom of the phone. The newest OS has "soft" buttons. A 'full screen' program and use that button space to display a bigger area. Additionally, the Maxx does not have a gyroscope so it can't use Photosphere, the newest thing for the Android camera.
Sure, these are both relatively minor things, but they'll start adding up. Two months later there will be something else the Maxx can't do that others can. Then another thing, then another thing.
Look at it this way: My phone is less than a year old and already it's being surpassed by other, newer devices. 12 months from now there will be devices that have surpassed those devices. My phone will now be two or more generations old. I can live with that, because in 4-5 months later I'll be moving to a new phone. But if you're just getting a new phone now, will you really want to be trading it out in a year's time?
That's not to say I hate my Maxx right now. I don't, not at all. But with smartphones the technology comes rapid fire. What was top of the line 12 months ago is average now, and obsolete 12 months later. You'd be buying average right now, not top of the line.
Pretty much everything that RedRamage says is true but..... the decision mainly lies in what you want. If you plan on making calls, watching youtube/netflix, playing games such as shadowgun and just normal things such as that then you can't go wrong with a razr as it won't be left in the dust regarding app development for sometime, there isn't much money in making apps that can only be available to people that can afford the latest and greatest, you may not get the crispest of graphics down the road or smoothest of motion but, it will work!
If you are looking to overclock, heavily mod, and try to push your gpu to it's maximum, then the razr is not the way to go as it has an encrypted bootloader so custom kernels can't be flashed, and the processor is dated in comparison to new devices rolling off the shelves. There are some custom ROMS you can flash with a taste of jellybean regardless if it will get an official update or not. ICS runs great on the RAZR and a couple apps like crackle and overskreen don't seem to like jellybean much
If you go with the razr, just spend the extra and get the maxx, the battery life is worth it
Hi Red and Draxin, thx for the Reply
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That said, with the way phone tech is changing so fast, I probably wouldn't get a one if I was looking right now. Newer phones are designed for all the advantages of the newest OS, the Maxx was a 2.3 phone while 4.2 is out now. Just two examples: The Maxx still has the "hard" buttons at the bottom of the phone. The newest OS has "soft" buttons. A 'full screen' program and use that button space to display a bigger area. Additionally, the Maxx does not have a gyroscope so it can't use Photosphere, the newest thing for the Android camera.
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About the Onboard buttons, myself actually don't mind with the onboard button, i actually like it more than the on screen button which takes up some real estate. About the photosphere, i'm not sure but shouldn't it work on all Android phone? I mean, if Google Sky Map can work, why not Photosphere? and with this sheet of details of Razr Maxx being real, i won't count it out too quickly http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/08/behind-the-glass-a-detailed-tour-inside-the-motorola-droid-razr/
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Look at it this way: My phone is less than a year old and already it's being surpassed by other, newer devices. 12 months from now there will be devices that have surpassed those devices. My phone will now be two or more generations old. I can live with that, because in 4-5 months later I'll be moving to a new phone. But if you're just getting a new phone now, will you really want to be trading it out in a year's time?
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Yup you're right, but in Indonesia, the RAZR Maxx was launched June 2012, seems the phone cycle is not as fast as it is on USA or other places. There is not even one Snapdragon S4 based phone here today, the highest only SGS3 for now, even the Bond Phone doesn't show it's nose while the film is already on the theaters.. really digging for Xperia T/TX but with my experience with a 1500mAh battery on Ray, i'm not sure that i want to have those flagship phones with meager battery capacity anymore..
Myself is not really a tech maniac on the phone side. All i want are smooth experience, no lag operation with great battery life. so if it is smooth and can live long, i'm all for it if i am a tech maniac, surely i will set my eyes on the Xperia T or TX, or Nexus 4 maybe but once again battery life hinders them
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Pretty much everything that RedRamage says is true but..... the decision mainly lies in what you want. If you plan on making calls, watching youtube/netflix, playing games such as shadowgun and just normal things such as that then you can't go wrong with a razr as it won't be left in the dust regarding app development for sometime, there isn't much money in making apps that can only be available to people that can afford the latest and greatest, you may not get the crispest of graphics down the road or smoothest of motion but, it will work!
If you go with the razr, just spend the extra and get the maxx, the battery life is worth it
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Thanks for the input too I'm more of an internet guy, the games that i like to play are the simple ones like Angry Birds or Bad Piggies, all those HD games is just too hard to play with on screen control so not my cup of tea. but majority of my current phone's battery goes to Internet related application like Maps and Browser.
The standard Razr is really tempting though, at 350USD it is a really cool phone to be had.. but well if only the Maxx battery can be plugged in
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If you are looking to overclock, heavily mod, and try to push your gpu to it's maximum, then the razr is not the way to go as it has an encrypted bootloader so custom kernels can't be flashed, and the processor is dated in comparison to new devices rolling off the shelves. There are some custom ROMS you can flash with a taste of jellybean regardless if it will get an official update or not. ICS runs great on the RAZR and a couple apps like crackle and overskreen don't seem to like jellybean much
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Well, i am okay with no kernel modification, as long as i can root at least, it's okay it is rootable isn't it?
Thanks guys, your inputs are helpful, if any please give me more input that would be greatly appreciated. :good:
I'll say no. Battery life is good on max, the phone is a bit laggy on ics. And I don't want too spend another year waiting for jelly beans update.
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I'll say no. Battery life is good on max, the phone is a bit laggy on ics. And I don't want too spend another year waiting for jelly beans update.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
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Ou, ok.. :-/ Could you describe the lag you experienced? How's the situation with Live wallpaper enabled? Hmm.. or should i wait for that Jelly Bean update first? Holy smokes maybe RAZR Maxx HD or Razr i will be here then #reallyhopeso
The phone is not laggy for me in stock ics...
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Yes, it is easily rootable thanks to eternityproject.
Now if you are looking to flash custom ROMs....... that is where it can get a little tricky, and ypu would need to do your homework. Some wont work with a bootstrap recovery and some ROMs may soft brick or possibly hardbrick your device if you flash with the wrong recovery. If you are planning on flashing ROMs, get to know RSD lite beforehand.
Personally I haven't had a reason to look at custom ROMs, I run rooted with Stock ICS with NOVA prime launcher and it just purrs for me, I have jellybean on my xoom and the only thing I miss is google now. I grabbed boot menu manager apk from the playstore (thanks whirleyes) just for nandroid backups though it is capable of much more.
One question for you though, since Indonesia is behind the US in the phone cycle, are you sure ICS is available in your region? Razr is shipped with Gingerbread, and had read about another fella from South Africa that wasn't getting ICS (jeanjaqc I believe) pushed it with RSDlite, and when he was done, the phone wouldnt communicate with his computer so he couldn't root
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Yes, it is easily rootable thanks to eternityproject.
Now if you are looking to flash custom ROMs....... that is where it can get a little tricky, and ypu would need to do your homework. Some wont work with a bootstrap recovery and some ROMs may soft brick or possibly hardbrick your device if you flash with the wrong recovery. If you are planning on flashing ROMs, get to know RSD lite beforehand.
Personally I haven't had a reason to look at custom ROMs, I run rooted with Stock ICS with NOVA prime launcher and it just purrs for me, I have jellybean on my xoom and the only thing I miss is google now. I grabbed boot menu manager apk from the playstore (thanks whirleyes) just for nandroid backups though it is capable of much more.
One question for you though, since Indonesia is behind the US in the phone cycle, are you sure ICS is available in your region? Razr is shipped with Gingerbread, and had read about another fella from South Africa that wasn't getting ICS (jeanjaqc I believe) pushed it with RSDlite, and when he was done, the phone wouldnt communicate with his computer so he couldn't root
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When i came to look around at local Phone store booth, the Standard Razr was on display and it ran on ICS, so yeah i am sure the update is already available.
Well, with ICS already at near stock condition, i think i don't need to flash custom ROM i think.. Just remove those bloatware (if any, thank God no Verizon here ) and it should be decent performer i think
Seems like i will take the plunge at year's end, maybe the phone will be on sale around 400US$ later.. will pray for that Thanks all
Basically, the phone is awfully slow when updating apps, laggy in stock apps such as gallery (opening the gallery), music player (loading the application), camera ( switching still picture to video).
At times, even unlocking lock screen is laggy.
My definition of laggy may be different from u guys. If compared to blackberry storm, it's still fast. However comparing it to when it was gb, it's slower.
Btw, using stock ROM, rooted but no tweaks.. Rooted to use tibu.
Not using much widgets, only the contacts widget, Calendar widget and the system widget where i can easily toggle on and off my wifi and blue tooth.
Using still image as wallpaper, no live wallpapers. No much background apps, except avast antivirus, whatsapp, naver line.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
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Basically, the phone is awfully slow when updating apps, laggy in stock apps such as gallery (opening the gallery), music player (loading the application), camera ( switching still picture to video).
At times, even unlocking lock screen is laggy.
My definition of laggy may be different from u guys. If compared to blackberry storm, it's still fast. However comparing it to when it was gb, it's slower.
Btw, using stock ROM, rooted but no tweaks.. Rooted to use tibu.
Not using much widgets, only the contacts widget, Calendar widget and the system widget where i can easily toggle on and off my wifi and blue tooth.
Using still image as wallpaper, no live wallpapers. No much background apps, except avast antivirus, whatsapp, naver line.
Sent from my Motorola Razr XT910 on ICS 4.0
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Hmmm.. i'm confused, i mean, some guys say it is fast, some say it's slower.. Well, with my own experience on demo booth, the interface is quite fast, but as always, anything without user apps is definitely fast..
@vash_h: if you're on clean state after FDR, is it still laggy for you?
Oh yes, when I'm with friends and using phone on vacation (androidele) after 2 days my battery still has power .
My Maxx works perfectly(ICS 4.0.4)has no lag and fly on the network (beware of programs installed)
Razr Maxx Amazing
I use Razr Maxx AsiaRetail (India) bought 2 months ago. I have rooted my phone on ICS 4.0.4 using eternityproject's EasyRootICS 1.5. I use chefs freezer to feeze all motorola bloatware (citrix receiver, smart actions, gallery, music, motocast, bejeweled game...basically everything i did not need). I use andoid assistant (18-in-one) to clear cache and kill any open apps (easy widgets available, as well as an ignore list so that you don't kill the apps that you need like gmail or whatsapp). The phone runs smoothly on ICS without any battery extender or overclocking script. I use Google Play Music for Music, Gallery JB+ for Gallery (AWESOME) and MX Player for Videos (AWESOME AGAIN!!!). I am on wi-fi one quarters of a day and constantly on calls (2G + 3G - Only for data, But mostly 2G). The phone runs 2 days on my average usage. (3-4 hours screentime, 8 hours+ calls and about 3-4 hours of wifi - see my screenshots). This phone is purely on usage basis. If you are interested in development section (MIUI, CM10 and other roms) this phone is not for you. I tried MIUI, did not give me a good battery life (about 60% when compared to stock rom - with frozen bloatware). I haven't tried any JellyBean based roms due to its few bugs. Given my usage, i am going to stick to this phone for atleast 2 years. I am extremely happy with my choice. I would recommend it to any stranger that passes by for example, I wouldn't have bothered to write such a long post but I did! think on it.
P.S.: that little bit charging in the screenshots you see is due to me transferring songs to my phone using data cable.4-5 mins maximum.
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I use Razr Maxx AsiaRetail (India) bought 2 months ago. I have rooted my phone on ICS 4.0.4 using eternityproject's EasyRootICS 1.5. I use chefs freezer to feeze all motorola bloatware (citrix receiver, smart actions, gallery, music, motocast, bejeweled game...basically everything i did not need). I use andoid assistant (18-in-one) to clear cache and kill any open apps (easy widgets available, as well as an ignore list so that you don't kill the apps that you need like gmail or whatsapp). The phone runs smoothly on ICS without any battery extender or overclocking script. I use Google Play Music for Music, Gallery JB+ for Gallery (AWESOME) and MX Player for Videos (AWESOME AGAIN!!!). I am on wi-fi one quarters of a day and constantly on calls (2G + 3G - Only for data, But mostly 2G). The phone runs 2 days on my average usage. (3-4 hours screentime, 8 hours+ calls and about 3-4 hours of wifi - see my screenshots). This phone is purely on usage basis. If you are interested in development section (MIUI, CM10 and other roms) this phone is not for you. I tried MIUI, did not give me a good battery life (about 60% when compared to stock rom - with frozen bloatware). I haven't tried any JellyBean based roms due to its few bugs. Given my usage, i am going to stick to this phone for atleast 2 years. I am extremely happy with my choice. I would recommend it to any stranger that passes by for example, I wouldn't have bothered to write such a long post but I did! think on it.
P.S.: that little bit charging in the screenshots you see is due to me transferring songs to my phone using data cable.4-5 mins maximum.
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He3.. Seems like you are really enjoying your phone so want this phone now X)
I am not a ROM junkies fortunately, as long as it is smooth riding and has quick toggles on status bar, then i'm all for it
I am also preparing to get the RAZR Maxx end of the year when my current provider's contract ends (then I can switch to the provider that has the RAZR Maxx and keep my number). I saw the RAZR on a good deal, but it looks like the phone is no longer available in South Africa. But the MAXX is a better option anyway. Hope my country has the ICS update! Although would love to use Cyanogenmod - which I'm currently using on my Milestone (but I could probably stick to stock for a while anyway before going custom).
Almost fell for the Huawei Ascend P1, but I hate the camera's bulge, and it's not really much of a better phone compared to the RAZR Maxx.
Now RAZR (Maxx) HD would be awesome, but I also don't know if we'll get it here.
Well, this phone has a good hardware. In deed, stock rom is a bit slow, but with some modifications you will have a really fast phone. Not to talk about custom roms... Great signal, design and feeling using it
I'm sure that it will be a great device after an year
i haven't noticed any slowness...maybe a little lag when installing or uninstalling an app. thats it.
In my personal opinion this phone is very good, I own one with ICS stock ROM and so far I am extremely happy with it, I have managed to make 4 days without recharging, with occasional Wi-Fi and 3G use (couple hours a day), and about 6 1/2 hours of screen use. As for the lag issues other people reports, I only can say it lags when installing apps, and with some demanding games. Apart from that is a smooth experience.
I highly recommend it!!
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In my personal opinion this phone is very good, I own one with ICS stock ROM and so far I am extremely happy with it, I have managed to make 4 days without recharging, with occasional Wi-Fi and 3G use (couple hours a day), and about 6 1/2 hours of screen use. As for the lag issues other people reports, I only can say it lags when installing apps, and with some demanding games. Apart from that is a smooth experience.
I highly recommend it!!
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i haven't noticed any slowness...maybe a little lag when installing or uninstalling an app. thats it.
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Umm, So it lags like stuttering when installing/updating app and you do something else? or the phone seems to stop for a while on installing/updating app? Well my single core experience with my Xperia tells me that this kind of lag is common though. or is it I/O bottleneck i guess?
Hi,
I've read that KitKat would need less resource compared to JB.
Since there are already ROM's based on JB for the Legend, do you think that a custom ROM will rapidly appear based on KitKat for this phone?
Thanks.
No.I don't think there are any developers left on this forum.
I too believe this won't happen, sadly. JB for Legend wasn't such a good idea, it simply can't run smoothly on that device. But, if what google says is true (about the hardware requirements), then 4.4 could be the greatest thing that has happened to this phone in a while. I still use my Legend as an mp3 player, but i would just love it if it was more functional, so i could use it in some high-risk situations (to avoid breaking my GN4). This could be Legends last chance to die with honor
Personally I have the Baked Blackbean Rom on my Legend (JB thus) and I'm rather satisfied of this Rom (thank you to the team BTW).
It lags a bit and there are some bugs but it allows me to play with the latest versions of the apps (I love the latest version of gmail for example).
Give it a try if you haven't already. The Legend deserves a better end than as a mere MP3 player .
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Personally I have the Baked Blackbean Rom on my Legend (JB thus) and I'm rather satisfied of this Rom (thank you to the team BTW).
It lags a bit and there are some bugs but it allows me to play with the latest versions of the apps (I love the latest version of gmail for example).
Give it a try if you haven't already. The Legend deserves a better end than as a mere MP3 player .
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I'm also using JB on my Legend, but it is not really that stable (don't get me wrong, congrats to the developers, they did a great job), but it just feels too "heavy" on the phone. My biggest problem was the low amount of internal memory - yes, i know you can create a partition on the sd card, but i've never managed to accomplish it. Tried everything, just wouldn't work. So I really can't use the latest app version, as i can have about three apps installed at a time xD
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. The app that launches 10 sec after you put your finger on it...
For the internal storage, I use Link2SD, which actually works pretty well. When I check, it tells me that I got something like 280MB in use and still have 70MB free.
I just created like you said a second partition (using a soft [named Mini-Tool if I remember correctly] in Windows while my phone was plugged in USB) and then using this second partition to install my apps.
Are you interested in trying again ? You have another phone but, anyway...
I've been part of legend community for about 2 years now, never got into full blown deving, rather doing relatively small mods, tweeks and stuff for personal use only (read, cutting my teeth with android).
Activity in legend has unfortunately died over the past 3-6 months and I haven't seen much from our last major Dev zeubea for long time, so unless there is a skilled Dev equal or better than zeubea out there that loves the HTC legend, its not going to happen. Even then given that jb version never really got finished to stable version, I very much doubt KitKat would come anywhere near the level that jb reached simply due to lack of source code for the required harware drivers...
Ya never know your luck in a big city...
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Well, let's hope such a developer exists than...
KK has been ported to the HTC Desire so there's hope
and sorry to hijack, but is anyone willing to test some gapps? Would be appreciated, cheers!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47101145&postcount=204
Ah cool! That's indeed a good news!
Thanks for the info.
KK was said to be optimized for devices with 512 MB+ RAM via Project Svelte. The Legend unfortunately doesn't even have that much.
But, I ask, why would everyone ideally want to have their Legends running Android 4.x? I don't understand why because although Gingerbread is now running on less than half of all Android devices, it was the last OS on our phone to run fluidly and with stability. With JB and above, Google's cramming more and more features into Google Play services, which really brings down the space the Legend has in its internal memory for apps. KK just won't run like Google intended to on this device. I just don't understand why people want the latest and greatest on a ~4 year old device. Maybe you have your reasons, and I'll respect that, but I can't think of any reason why personally.
It hurts to say, but with the Legend nearing four years since announcement, this phone isn't worth being developed for anymore. It wasn't that huge of a hit, like the original Desire or the Sensation. Therefore, it tends to be more forgotten. It doesn't have the computing power of neither of these devices, nor does it even come close to it, so while the aforementioned devices are slowly getting the bleeding edge, we'll be getting it slower, if at all.
It's a harsh reality, but if you want the best experience in Android possible, it's time to upgrade. ~Four years, that's around two two-year contracts. For Legend owners in Canada, your contract should have been up just this past summer.
This phone will always be a classic, guiding HTC through its brilliant design language with the HTC One flagship and its variants. Its legacy is shown on the devices that succeeded it. Unfortunately, I don't believe it has anything more to bring.
Hi Asovse1,
Thank you for your opinion.
You're right when you say that 4 years are an eternity for a smartphone but personally right now I can't afford a new device that would have for example the screen quality of the Legend (which has an amoled screen while even recent phone still use LCD). If I buy a new phone around 99 $ (my budget) I would have a screen with a poor resolution so the change is not worthy.
I have a JB Rom on my Legend and I can enjoy the last version of GMail for example that has really cool stuff. And this version of gmail runs rather smoothly on my phone, so why not ?
The Legend doesn't have 512MB RAM, for this reason he wasn't supposed to support ICS, but it worked, so while it works with the new version of Android, I will hope that a talented developer will build a Rom for this fantastic phone .
Or maybe I can wait just a few days ans see what the Moto G has to offer...
Cheers.
Hear hear, someone in the same boat as myself. Still using my Legend for daily use. I am on CM7.2 stable. Only GPS is not reliable. Tried a lot higher roms, never worked out well.
I am looking into importing a Chinese phone. Nice specs and an affordable price. Only risk is a broken phone within 2 years...
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Hi Wim,
Have you ever tried the Baked one as I mentioned earlier?
I have it on my Legend and use it daily without any problem. And the GPS works too, even if sometimes it needs some time to find itself, once it's done, it works perfectly.
Hello there,
I have great news for all the fans of the Legend: it might get KitKat !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1905588&page=28
Let's cross our fingers !
Cheers!
It's been 5 years, any news?